I'm trying to avoid looking like picrel. My upper body and stomache carries next to no fat, almost all my fat is in my ass, hips and love handles. I thought of cutting, but I'm afraid I'll lose the amount of muscle I built, since there is not much already. And bulking also doesn't seem fully feasable. Would the skinnyfat advice of eating maintenance in rest days+cardio work for me? Thanks
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Your parents will use your real name when they bury you.
You will never be a real man. You have no sperm, you have no testes, you have no prostate. You are a homosexual woman twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Women are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed women to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a woman. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk chick home with you, She’ll turn tail and bolt the second she gets a whiff of your diseased, infected neo-wiener.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a woman is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably female.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back
>they raised me the best they could
Clearly not.
bump
Test should help change your fat composition to some degree helping with your body shape. Focus on lats and delts to get a more masculine figure overall. I'd bulk before if I were in a similar situation. If you lose weight and muscle all that will be left is your feminine bone structure to shape your frame which would defeat the purpose of trying to lose the fat around your ass hips and love handles. Out of curiosity how tall are you?
>If you lose weight and muscle all that will be left is your feminine bone structure
Almost as if they’re a woman
>If you lose weight and muscle all that will be left is your feminine bone structure to shape your frame
That's what I thought as well but I saw some ftm "lifters" suggesting cutting to almost everyone so wanted to ask around before falling to a meme
>Testosterone should help
As far as I understand, testosterone doesn't move fat, only the new fat you gain goes to your abdomen, but even that takes time. I started hrt 1.5 years ago, and was very skinny (110lbs). Now I'm around 140lbs and despite being on testosterone while gaining this weight, some of it went to hips etc. (though noticably less then before) maybe it's because I still have estrogen in my system(?)
>Focus on lats and delts
That's what I'm trying to do right now. Do you think growing quads would close the Q angle? (picrel)
>How tall are you
5'6
>5’6
You will never be a man
I truly hope you find some kind of internal peace and leave this phase before you do irreparable damage to your body
If you have any dreams of being a mother some day, even slightly, then stop this
True the fat recomposition will take time but after a few bulking and cutting cycles the majority of fat should be in less feminine areas. Hitting quads would help the q angle likely but generally, I would focus much more on the upper body than lower body for a more masculine appearance. At 5 foot 6 gaining mass on your frame along with test should be relatively expedient. However, I wish you luck in the world as a 5 foot 6 passing man, the manlet thing is not just a meme. I truly hope you have a good support network if this is the path you are set on going on. I need to say that I personally don't recommend transitioning to anyone due to a lack of advancement in the medical field overall and the level of sexual dimorphism we have as humans but your prerogative is yours alone. I wish you luck with wherever you end up.
Thanks anon, for now I'm doing an only upper body split, with occaisonal full body days. Mtfs seem to fat-cycle much easily but I don't understand why.
post body. choosing to live as a 5'6" male is not something any sane person would do
>t. biological manlet
You are a fricking manlet lmfao, I suggest you consider joining the % soon. I know you have felt the impulse, just let yourself go.
>That's what I thought as well but I saw some ftm "lifters" suggesting cutting (...)
Down the road or across the street?
Post body
>ftm
Are you moronic? Not trying to insult you, but you’ve damaged your body, yet you are unironically on a fitness board.
If your looking for workouts to help you look like a man We can’t help you. It doesn’t work like that. Your cells have xx chromosomes and your body produces hormones that produce fat, not muscle, and unfortunately the drugs your doctor lied to you about aren’t advanced enough to fully replace those hormones.
You’ve been lied to by the same corrupt establishment those “internet bigots” tried to warn you about.
Image related. If you haven’t gone that far with your transition, it’s not too late to stop. Please save yourself. Yes everyone has freedom and liberty to do and dress as they want, however this corrupt establishment wants you to transition in order to distract you from the crimes they are committing against your fellow human.
You took the bait, but it’s not too late. Stop now before you turn into a beta male like pic related.
P.s. it takes more than a beard and muscles to be a man. IM BIOLOGICALLY MALE and I’m not even a man yet. You think by taking pills you’ll magically become a man? It takes strength and honor. Many males on this board aren’t even true men either.
Please stop. Get some help
>Your cells have xx chromosomes and your body produces hormones that produce fat, not muscle
Doesn't fully work like that but I get what you mean
>Picrel
Is why I'm taking finasteride kek. Ftm community is a joke. I didn't even realized most ftms are bi or don't even like women. Most straight ftms don't even talk about being trans after age 25, because being around lgbt people prevents you from having a normal life.
>Why would you transition into an incel
Anon, do you seriously think I didn't think about it? I tried looking it in a utilitarian way, so in highschool I tried to repress it. I was not a full on stacy, but was above average. Still, it made me crazy and unstable. I was constantly depressed, started dissociating and was numb. I thought living as what I had the most chances as would work, but long story short: it didn't. I was wrenching out a fake smile everyday, thinking it's going to be okay, but depression started creeping in me.
At first transitioning was worse on my mental health because I thought these things "I'll look like a basedboy" etc. but my brain is normal, I'm able to reconnect with myself again, and I am able to focus on what matters in life: friends, family, goals, the moment. I enjoy life, simple as
>my brain is normal
Is this what mentally ill people truly believe?
I see a ftm transgender around 5’6” come into my workplace delivering mail about once a week, and they look ridiculous and silly pretending to be a man. I just don’t understand why they would do that to themselves
Dealing with negative emotions is a challenge for all of us to an extent. Forget about how spiritually devoid of merit your actions have been, logically you failed yourself. It’s never too late to start choosing the hard path that leads to heaven anon
She transitioned at 24. The testosterone therapy her body was subjected to instantly converted into DHT and bonded to her weak female scalp androgen receptors blocking healthy follicle growth and causing rapid miniaturization. Very rare to be a solid norwood 7 at 25-26. Ftm trannies in their 20s have androgenetic alopecia upwards of 4x the rate of actual men in the same age group
The only advice I would give is to de transition. Imagine wanting the a short feminine White dude who has a 100% chance of moderately severe to severe pattern baldness
imagine going from a woman to looking like a child molester. what the frick
hahahahahaah over
I’ve never understood ftm; mtf makes sense because being a woman is life on easy mode.
Start roiding like crazy and lift weights
Some people wanna play hard mode.
Because women think men live on easy mode then they whine about how difficult it is and no one told them how they would be treated
>all my fat is in my ass hips and love handles
Yea cuz you're a woman kek. Your biology determines your fat distribution, no ammount of hormones or working out will change that.
Maybe if it identifies as a dadbod its body will transform
hormones change your fat distribution given enough time. weight cycling makes it happen faster
You will never ever look or be a man no matter how much testostone you take fricking mentally ill troony
I'm trying to understand why you decided to preface your post about your mental state and then ask a question completely-unrelated.
What inspired you to do this?
Your family weeps for you.
Turn back or die on the nooses with the rest in a few years. You sick fricks are not long for this world. Repent, believe the gospel, or die.
Why would a woman ever do this to herself? It’s so unnatural and embarrassing I could never even imagine doing something remotely like this.
I have extended family members who are ftm and it breaks my heart. I saw it coming from miles away since they were teens (they have moderate/severe aspergers). I still can't forgive myself fully for not reaching out and trying to talk them out of it.
If OP is not bait I sincerely hope she reconsiders the path she's on and that she talks to any "religious zealots" in her family who just want the best for her.
Didnt read.
have a nice day.
>almost all my fat is in my ass, hips and love handles.
POST PICS FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY.
God, pooners are ridiculous. How do you tards cope with the fact that you're letting go of life on easy mode to become a dickless submanlet with dubious voice and natural female passiveness?
life got easier after becoming a gnome
have you tried not being a moronic homosexual?
41% yourself troon. nobody thinks you're a man. your parebts will use yiur real name when they bury you. your "friends" pretend not to be disgusted by you because they wanna virtue signal and use you as a prop.
If you're not baiting, why are you here instead of /lgbt/
Asked the same question in /lgbt/ weeks ago, nobody lifts there and mtfs only speculated half-assed answers
>mtfs only speculated half-assed answers
Was there ever any other expectation?
>Ask a bunch of trannies general health questions
>Only get half assed speculation
Color me surprised
>Women don't know anything about lifting
Who would have guessed. Lol
Surely you mtfs would already know everything there is about maleness and masculinity, since you were "always real men"?
YWNBAM
>asks for advice on body
>doesn't post body
I'd call this a thinly veiled attention whoring thread but it isn't even thinly veiled
Don’t worry, femanon. You’ll find your dream man who’ll fix you of your misplaced desires.
If this is not bait, pls don't do it. I'm a biological 5'6" bald male and it's fricking awful. Like seriously you don't want this life. Pls just be a dike or a tomboy but
don't hurtt yourself. Godspeed anon
You used to be pretty, OP. You were a cute grey mouse. Why did you frick yourself up? The surgery scar is ugly and gag-worthy. You look like an ugly basedboy man. You look like an ugly guy, who looks like a dyke. You are balding ans have patchy beard hair. You are 5‘2. You stink. You are stinky. Why? Your mother wanted a daughter. You father cringes when looking at you and instead always tries to not look you into the eye.
Just become a varbie, doing shit like chop your breasts off and sew yourself a fake penis is moronic. You will always be weaker than men, and your only advantage is being able to give birth.
Move this to /lgbt/, its off topic and doesn't belong to this board
To the confirmed to be troony mods of this website it is absolutely on topic, no matter the board.
breasts NOW
End the delusions
Consider a shower
>going from a (probably) cute girl to an ugly short incel
Huh?
rope
why not just becoming a tomboy and embracing both? why choosing mutilating and deluding yourself? There is literally zero purpose, right now we all know that you can't change genders. Maybe in the future, but now you won't magically become a man just because you identify as one and take test. I hope this is bait, but if not then please reconsider your actions
>you can't change genders
gender is not even a real thing, its some mad up nonsense homosexualry
this
nothing wrong with traps and tomboys
taking drugs and castrating yourself will permanently ruin your life and you WILL kys
Does it really matter? You've already given up.
>FtM
>still thinks like a woman when it comes to lifting
literally the "i don't want to get too big" shit that women always say LOL
memes aside you're already on TRT i assume so cardio isn't going to kill gains at all. just don't overdue cardio and cut to a decent/desired base than slow bulk. being skinnyfat you're going to feel like you look like shit for a long time. i was skinnyfat and it took me at least three years to get to a point where i thought i looked not skinnyfat. just do a hypertrophy routine, whatever you find enjoyable and stick to it and just adjust when you get bored/stall
I don't think cardio kills gains, but my current bodytype would suffer from hardcore bulking and since I lack muscle, I figured I probably shouldn't cut and I've been trying to implement advice given to skinnyfats. ie Cardio with maintenance calories
But when I research it like that they mostly refer to abdominal fat that I don't have, though problem felt similar.
It's not that I don't want to get big, I just dont want to have unnecessary feminine fat from doing a meme diet or a wrong training approach. Your reply assured me of my priory disposition, so thanks
>it took 3 years for me
congrats anon. I hope I'll also make it
Muscle is attached to your skeleton. YOU STUPID WOMAN. Do you see the small female rib cage? The narrow shoulders? The short arms and legs? The wide pelvis? Your muscles are draped upon your skeleton and HRT alone is never going to be enough to offset your bone structure. You’re still going to have a fat feminine ass with skinny arms and zero shoulder development. Even with zipper breasts your pecs will be fricking zero compared to an untrained man’s broader chest. If you’re serious you need to Roid the frick out. Pro bodybuilding style. You need a lot of help in general. Your best path is to stop this delusion that you’re a man
youre heckin valid, dood! frick the haters
thanks dood! i sometimes post poonie art. glad u r mirin
Why choose to be an ugly weak man ? I'm not even mad at you, you are in for a rough ride.
To explain shortly, I tried repressing, and tomboymaxxing but was mentally in my lowest for many years and it was the only option left. Also explained here
Do you have any ISTness advice regarding my issue?
Genetic fat distribution and feminine hips (bone structure) seem hard to avoid. Focus on lats upper back and shoulders to create a masculine frame. Probably avoid squatting or deadlifting too much. Try and make you wardrobe conceal your hips I guess. I'm giving you advice because you actually answered me, but once again you are in for a rough ride. I don't hate you like mtf, but I pity you. good luck anon.
Thanks anon, do you think training obliques would help to create a square shape? or is it a meme? I saw ftms avoiding oblique work to create a "v taper" which I don't think is possible with wide hips. my hips are similar to picrel (not me) but I have less overall bodyfat aroundother areas and am similar to this in regards to lovehandles and have more hip fat
I don't think obliques would affect your general silhouette as much as the muscles I previously mentionned so it's your choice. Also to avoid looking too much like a based boy try and train traps and neck too.
I have some trap development compared to other muscles even though I didn't train them directly. Idk why. Absolutely pencil neck though, I train it almost everyday. Picrel is me. Sorry about the schizocropped photo, it probably doesnt show shit
post actual body so I can assess
You seem very fat
its over
You have a lot of fat anon. Focus on get rid of it before, so you can start clean. Go to /fat/ general for a while. Also, lift like crazy. Check your macros, read the sticky.
thanks
thank you, any recommended programs I can base mine out of? I don't do much lower body work because of the imbalance, only upper body, at least for a while. How would powerlifting help with this?
Do you think women are ever going to be attracted to you with that body? Genuinely?
Pooners are gays, just because she plays pretend at being a dude doesn't mean her desire to get fricked by Chad changed in any way. All of this roots from reading too many gay Harry Potter fan fiction usually
Actually, that fat distro (hips, thighs, and breasts) will all go if you go sub 20% bf. You have that weird frame due to fat distro
hey Op
you are moronic. dont forget about it
good bye
kys you are self if true
Transgenderism is a mental illness. Transitioning does not lower chance of suicide. Nobody believes you are a man. People self censor themselves around you to avoid being accused of bigotry. All this because you couldn't accept the fact that you are and forever will be, a woman. The sooner you accept this fact, the sooner you can get help. I will pray for you OP.
>Troon
Focus lats do a bunch of gear /fraud/ is the board your looking for growing your lats a bunch might make your proportions less obvious. It doesn't really matter what you train until you're on T anyway, just focus on getting generally healthy basic shit like a good mile, a few Pull-ups and calisthenics should be all you need until you start doping
I've been on hrt for 1.5 years now, but it's controlled so I can't (nor I'm willing to) take a lot of stuff because I give bloodwork
1. Lift (focus on upper body)
2. Eat
3. Repeat 1. and 2. until death
quit spamming everything with your butthurt whining gay
it's already over zipperbreasts, kys your self
Your main focus should be on developing the 'yoke' i.e. thickening your neck, building your traps and widening your lats and deltoids. This combined with thick forearms and biceps are arguably the most 'masculine' muscle groups and should counterbalance your ass/hips as much as is viable.
In terms of general advice bulking/cutting are only really applicable with bodybuilders who have defined seasons. You should eat the recommended protein intake (1g/1lbs of body weight) with a simple newbie powerlifitng routine and maybe like a day or two on a rowing machine (you won't lose gains unless you actually demolish yourself 5x/week despite what the autists here think.) Focus on sticking to a simple 3-4x/week routine with clean eating and you'll look as good as you can without blasting test like a madman.
>it still hasn't posted body
frick off
>choosing to live life as a small, weak, balding and emotional "man"
>the only type of man no one wants to be around
Who would confidently and proudly choose such a fate?
Another qt tomboy psyoped into thinking something is wrong with her so she throws her life away. They can't keep getting away with this anon bros.
you know how alt right gays hate blacks because their main flaw is they're stupid and lazy?
the flaw of white native europeans is that they're self hating genocidal cuck morons
this is the bog standard white experience, build some cool shit then go exinct
sorry breh
Wow, this is some MK-Ultra shit, never knew that looking at a single picture can ruin your entire day, perhaps even multiple days, like so.
Wow i thought i was moronic for considering using anabolics for a month or two lol
Imagine getting memed by the internet this hard. You stupid b***h