*fricks up your shoulder joints for life
*fricks up your spine for life*
*adds ZERO (0) muscle mass to your shoulders*
*fucks up your shoulder joints for life. *fucks up your spine for life*. *adds ZERO (0) muscle mass to your shoulders*
*fricks up your shoulder joints for life
*fricks up your spine for life*
*adds ZERO (0) muscle mass to your shoulders*
is a bot making these threads , or an autist
A moron or a moron trying to be funny, like half the people on this board
Post body dyel. Ohp isnt a big lift and neither are your lifting numbers
what's the difference?
>bar clamps for 25s
pussy
>bro just spend all your focus on trying to NOT drop the pl8s from the bar because clamps are for pussies!!
moron
>spend all your focus on trying to NOT drop the pl8s
>calling others moronic
The fit is so tight on the bars you have to literally have it perpendicular to the ground for it to slip off, what in the frick are you smoking Black person?
What is the benefit you get for taking this risk?
You can workout with a friend who is stronger or weaker than you without spending an extra 30 seconds each time you do a set.
I have a home gym and no friends so these benefits dont seem to be enough considering the risks
It takes you 30 second to take clamps on an off?
I have to ask for someone to help because they are too tight
There's no risk though? How would they possibly fall off?
I squat 400 and I never clip the bar. It's a non issue. Don't lift weight you can't lift, and if you don't know what that is, you should start with the bar.
When I fail pressing, I let the weight back down and use a bit of leg momentum to catch it safely. It's 1/3 of what you squat, that shouldn't be a problem.
>even application of force keeps the bar parallel to the floor
>this is hard
wow
How terrible is your balance?
ladies and gentlemen the most stable conventional shoe wearer
how much does 25 lb feel like when it plummets into your foot from 7 feet up
Depends if it’s heavy or not.
About 175 ft-lb
Do you OHP while you're doing the splits? What the frick are you talking about? You need to actually go lift weights before you talk shit Black person.
saves your rotators and shoulder joints
protects your spine
builds the most front delt and tricep mass
>not doing it seated but standing
*is also the only lift that matters
What did G*d mean by this?
I got to 1.5pl8 with these and my delts were mediocre at best. Started doing seated dumbbell shoulder press, upright rows and spammed cable lateral raises and my shoulders blew up and could see all the separate heads
wonder if the cable lateral raises were what did it
niga thats what your suppose to be doing the from the start. You do 2 lateral delt movements + OHP. You could have kept ohp and your shoulders still would have blown up with the new routine.
The ohp was garbage for hypertrophy was my point even though I got relatively strong at it. Should have just done seated shoulder press from the beginning.
compounds are for strength, not hypertrophy
isolation is for hypertrophy, not strength
Incredibly moronic take even by IST standards
>says I’m wrong
>refuses to say why
incredibly moronic refutation by all standards
Hypertrophy is caused by tension being applied to the muscle fibres, which happens regardless of how many joints an exercise uses. Generally coming exercises utilise more force and therefore potentially cause more stimulus than isolations, although it depends on the leverages of this particular exercise.
Also in my example both seated dumbbell shoulder press and upright rows - which, as I said, were far more effective than ohp at illiciting shoulder hypertrophy - are compound exercises.
>Hypertrophy is caused by tension being applied to the muscle fibres
Yes, so, consider this: the more you can isolate a single muscle, the more tension can be applied and, therefore, the greater the hypertrophic effect. During compound movements, the hypertrophic effect is diminished (not non-existent, sure) due to the tension being spread out over several muscles at once. More force =/= more hypertrophy; more isolation = more hypertrophy.
Except the biomechanics of most isolation exercises doesn't allow nearly as much load to be used, so even though the tension is concentrated on a smaller group of muscles the overall tension on the muscle isn't necessarily greater. The main benefit from isolation work is just additional volume with lower systemix fatigue.
If you think leg extensions create more hypertrophic stimulus in the quad muscles than leg press ot hack squat you're just giving yourself away as a dyel
>coming exercises
fricked my shoulder up a month ago, shit still hurts
never doing it again
>not doing dumbbell ohp with neutral grip
No point in going that high.
theres no point in even exercising
Whats the difference from regular dumbbell ohp?
>I got to 1.5pl8 with these and my delts were mediocre at best
barbell OHP is garbage i've been saying this forever and IST always complained about it
guess people who tell the truth are hated
what about bb OHP one day and dumbell ohp the next
Autists HATE not fixating on just one option, thats why.
why is it garbage exactly?
he has no answer. OHP is the king of the presses. gays just love laying on their back when they're exerting themselves, reminds them of anal sex.
Haha, you lie on your stomach when getting analled. No homo..
>IST - homosexual anus sex discussion board
When the milf I eas seeing pegged me I was always on my back.
lmfao this. bunch of gays in this thread. OHP is for chads.
This. OHP is the 2nd biggest egolift only behind #1 Deadlift.
Sure, I feel incredible doing them at my commercial gym to mog DYEL normies but from a hypertrophy point there's no reason to do it over seated dumbbell OHP for example.
Barbell OHP also isn't newbie friendly because you need good form or you will get fricked, I remember getting neck muscle spasms doing it.
bruh you don't train hypertrophy for your front delt, literally every pressing movement trains front delt anyway. You do OHP for strength, and then you do hypertrophy style training for other heads of the shoulder. OHP is not an ego lift at all, its how you get strong shoulders. I agree with you on deadlifting, fk those.
thats why bb ohp is dogshit
you should be doing seated db ohp for better hypertrophy and isolation
what's a good alternative to DL for hypertrophy?
RDL.
it's true that OHP is more of a display of strenght rather than an optimal hypertrophy excersice, but it still is a very good excersice on it's own. i don't have bad shoulders and i got a bw 1rm at 85 kg.
So many dyels here you can tell they don't OHP often.
I've never seen a natural who can OHP decent weight with bad shoulders ever.
what is 'decent'?
nta but as a lanklet, i was getting complimented on shoulders at 1pl8 for 6 reps.
OHP absolutely makes you stronger and builds upper body mass, it's the upper chest and back mostly, also again it builds total core strength so you are building muscle all the way to your feet.
It's not a body building exercise it's a I want to be good at athletic activities in my life exercise. I want to crush nerds excercise.
Do your inclined bench and isolated bicep curls all day long if all you want is hoes. You won't get any stronger you're actually getting weaker because you are adding none functional mass to your frame that doesn't help do anything except those specific exercises.
Name the sport where you have to do anything that OHP will help
NTA but Any throwing sport and strongman
Not sport but I had to take off a huge ladder from my grandpa's rack which was around 30kgs and could do that with ease without visiting snap city.
if you can strict press 1plate for 10 as a naturaly it's pretty much guaranteed you'll have big delts and triceps
I can OHP 1 plate for 5 reps and I look really dyel
am I going to magically grow shoulders after I get the other 5 reps
Trust me bro, you’ll get big in 2 more reps
Your strength is literally doubling if you can do 5 more reps, moron
What do you think?
5 reps of 315 equates to about 365, 10 of that equates to over 400.
i didnt know double of 365 was 400
Do dumbbell OHP instead and you'll see ur shoulders go to the moon
Barbell OHP is a joke, you have to put so much emphasis on ur core that you can't really focus on isolation.
Bro, but you ARE dyel.
>tfw the difference between 'big delts and triceps' and "ARE dyel" is 5 measly reps on IST
I ohp all the time and can do about 200 lbs. I am a teacher and teenagers always tell me I have huge arms and shoulders.
>big delts & tris
I can do that and more. You're underestimating how strong you really need to get.
Beautiful delts and V shape torso. Looking good bro.
you used to be a fatty right anon?
If it is paused reps then sure
sounds like someone forgot to eat
I miss doing ohp since I fricked my wrists boxing and crashing while biking
>*fricks up your spine for life*
How? Engage your core
Maybe it's just genetics or something but my shoulders grew immensely off of just these. Couldn't bench for six months and only did OHP thrice a week and had great results
My PPL has me doing standing barbell OHP 5x5 on one push day and then seated dumbbell OHP 3 x 10 on the next. Seems like a good mix of strength & hypertrophy training
Daily dyel cope thread
don't care
don't care
don't care
I make zero progress on this but I keep doing it anyway
you can do it. i have 110lbs total barbell. started out with only doing 5. now i can do 10.
need to do drop sets of it.
Likely some muscle is weak and you cant hit it hard enough during the normal set
OHP is the king of the lifts. I like to mix in some klokov press as well, but don't try those unless you have very good shouulder mobility already
I can't do standing OHP because I don't have enough vertical space, does seated OHP have close to the same benefits?
seated dumbbell ohp is better
why? it has a major downside that you often need to a spotter to get the weights up initially if you are lifting heavy
Dumbbells can move independently.
Because the dumbbells are not locked together like a barbell they are free to move independently. This means your body has to put more work into just keeping them stable. This is why dumbbells always work your stabilizing muscles more than a barbell ever could.
this is also why you can lift more weight on a barbell variation of any DB exercise. by your reasoning we should do no barbell exercises at all
>by your reasoning we should do no barbell exercises at all
Nta but the only reason to use barbell over dumbbells is when the weight is going to be too unwieldy or awkward for dumbbells or your gyms dumbbells aren't heavy enough.
Every dumbbell variation is superior to barbell for hypertrophy.
You got psyopd by IST powerlifting meta.
Seated is for muscle growth, standing is for total body strength gain. do you wanna be strong or look strong?
It’s not as good as standing, since it is less stable, and has less total body involvement. It’s still fine to do if that’s all you can do though, just make sure it’s seated on a bench without back support.
OHP is one of the big compounds for a reason. Stop listening to gays who take gear and just do your compounds you gaylord.
the only ones who i notice don't get any gains from this exercise are those that lift too heavy
> t. failed 1pl8
>It's Rick Del Hagen the horse with the Stick reporting in horsewienering this hefty LOAD overhead with ease
>If you want to build some SERIOUS MASS and not look like a string beeean you need to be drinking a kilogram of maltodextrin daily to maintain optimal prediabetic levels of blood glucose
He's not entirely wrong
I practically only OHP for front delts and the doctor said they're pretty big
>tfw could never get over 40kg
>builds massive side delts
>fixes your shoulders
>is literally impossible to cheat
>terrifies all normalgays
Do this instead, but do it standing instead of seated
I do both
this doesn't hit your side delts at all, idiot
Wrong
think i might stop doing these because my delts are always exhausted after bench and thus i can never progress on them
Is it normal to get an insane side delt pump from these/incline bench. Am I doing something wrong?
When properly performed, OHP activates like 5% of your side delts
You are doing something really wrong, so watch some videos and check your form before you get a nasty injury
reason i do ohp: its fun to lift big weight over head like monke
OHP is tremendous for shoulder health.
Flat barbell bench on the other hand...
post body homosexual ohp is the best lift for sholders , that's 90% of the volume I do for shoulders. strict ohp 185x7 205x4 ill probably hit 2pl8 once I stop cutting
damn bro you made no gains in 3 years and half of it roiding
no visible diffrence lmao. 15-20lbs of muscle and significantly leaner is no difference. not everyone who takes shit is gonna try to do open bb.
by that logic why did you take roids, the pic at 17 shows an amazing physique already.
i thought i would be able to beat the youngest pro record, I didn't respond to gear quite as well as I thought I would. I've continued because I like the extra energy and the mental effects. my hair was already going at 15 and my dad was bald bald at 24 so I don't think there's much of anything Id be able to do about that except get transplants every couple years.
fair enough, have a good day
people like progress anon, when you stall roids are an easy way to keep making progress
>first image on the left is already good and could have stayed there
>takes roids
I just dont understand the roidtroony mindset at all.
top left was total pussy slayer mode and you threw it away moron
absolutely zero interest from women before or after, Im starting to become suspicious that a homosexual Mongolian basket-weaving forum populated by 95% obese gay men doesn't actually know what women are attracted to.
>absolutely zero interest from women before or after
have you tried talking to women? Jesus christ.
yes, tried quite a bit in high school before lockdown the only change from before lifting is they just kinna tried to ignore me instead of being outwardly hostile (making a scene screaming or crying) when I tired. idk what specifically was wrong with me but i clearly didn't have something they needed in order to like you, expecaly in high school i made more money than just about anyone else i knew at that school (24/hr) had a car, got along decently well with 90% of the guys there but never had any interest from women.
Were the muscles gains worth the obvious facial bloat gains and hairline losses?
>no visible difference other than the hairline
not sure if it was worth tbqh