>GET RID OF ALL YOUR FRIENDS, THEY'LL JUST HOLD YOU BACK.
>NEVER TELL ANYONE ABOUT YOUR GOALS; THEY WILL ONLY SABOTAGE YOU.
>DISAPPEAR, CUT ALL CONTACT FOR 3 MONTHS AND RETURN A LEADER.
Why are motivational speakers this socially moronic?
>GET RID OF ALL YOUR FRIENDS, THEY'LL JUST HOLD YOU BACK.
Because all self improvement moron are coping losers who think lifting weights and le crypto shill meme will make people like them and women will have sex with them. Everything in life is determined by height and face if you don’t have those two give up and rot it never began nothing will ever get better
moronic post. You've never gone outside have you?
Only a shut-in schizo would be able to form this sentence
You had me before you started with the incel brainrot
The first 2 are true to some degree if not applied to lifting
>GET RID OF ALL YOUR FRIENDS, THEY'LL JUST HOLD YOU BACK.
This one's moronic, although most people's friends aren't quality friends, they just don't want to be lonely.
"Don't eat anything just because you're hungry"
>NEVER TELL ANYONE ABOUT YOUR GOALS; THEY WILL ONLY SABOTAGE YOU
This one is sound advice. People pull you down, not because they hate you but because it's the safe thing to do. Also telling other people about what you want to do triggers the same brain area that rewards doing that thing. That's why it makes it way less likely that you actually succeed
>DISAPPEAR, CUT ALL CONTACT FOR 3 MONTHS AND RETURN A LEADER.
This one's just moronic
, CUT ALL CONTACT FOR 3 MONTHS AND RETURN A LEADER.
>This one's just moronic
It's actually not, but it depends on the circumstances. I tend to do this after a breakup. I find if I rush into a relationship immediately after, or even start looking immediately after, it doesn't give me enough time to process the last relationship and do a personal "reset" to come back down to earth, be more "me" as an individual, and analyze how I can be a better person in the future, both consciously and subconsciously. I think there's absolutely some merit to it.
Cutting all contact with everyone and "returning a leader" is a bit moronicly exaggerated but there is something to it for sure.
yeah but it's not meant as breakup advice. The people who spout that usually mean "don't talk to anyone, be a sigma lone wolf." Which is pretty moronic. Communication is one of if not the most important skill in life. Lifting or reading or any other "self improvement" thing doesn't even come close to bein a master at communicating with people and making connections.
I get both what you and self improver is saying. Improover means cut with close relationships, friends and so, disappear from your usual life, where people that get jealous and try to pull you down, not take a silent vow like you mean. You cant stop communicating.
I've received my current almost free apartment, my comfortable job, and business contacts by simply telling people my intentions and having them say "hold up, I know exactly the right person for you, here's his phone number".
this
if you don't have the gift of gab, being exceptionally earnest is bafflingly disarming and effective
I find this too. I’m generally talkative and a very high functioning introvert. I have a lot of life experience so I can interact with many different types of people which really sets me apart from my other STEM PhD colleagues. I can shoot the shit with anyone really. But I wouldn’t say I have the gift of gab because I tend to dominate conversations too much (I am working on this) and I can put my foot in my mouth because I am very honest and open. Not autistically so but I am almost always genuine.
Sometimes this can be too much for people but overall people respond well to it. As you said it is extremely disarming and I often have really deep conversations with total strangers and colleagues alike. My wife is often baffled when for example I’ll be walking the dog at the park, chat with someone for a while and they’ll give me their card. It happens a few times a year and she doesn’t understand it. What happens is that I often ask probing questions almost like I’m interviewing them and I will expose myself and not be afraid to go beyond superficialities and even talk about uncomfortable and personal things. We end up having a connection and for people who don’t usually have this rapport with people (especially strangers) it is a meaningful interaction and they just want to throw out a link (a card, a number) to acknowledge what happened.
In a lot of ways I prefer this kind of socializing than having close friendships too. As I grew older I went from socially anxious strange young man to eccentric man who is very genuine, passionate, intense and intelligent. Some people aren’t rubbed the right way but it, which is fine because it’s who I am and not some act, but it resonates with a lot of people. My wife is the opposite and keeps conversation superficial and friendly so 100% of people will like her but she doesn’t get those remarkable bonding moments.
Give an example pls
What he is describing is called nepotism anon. Its quite common. The only problem is that you need to be in good relations with people in power to begin with to even be able to do this. You can't just randomly ask a question to some guy you know that is a boss somewhere if they can help you find a job.
Most people get connections through their parents though, children are never in contact with people in power
Good relations are not always needed, you can always get a similar deal by appearing charismatic (and trying a lot of times).
This is the what happens in networking events, or in events where people tend to network. I know someone that during his PhD would ask random professors in conferences if he could go to their uni as a guest research associate, and a couple of them accepted, even without knowing him beforehand and him being a student in a lower-ranked uni.
>This one is sound advice. People pull you down, not because they hate you but because it's the safe thing to do. Also telling other people about what you want to do triggers the same brain area that rewards doing that thing. That's why it makes it way less likely that you actually succeed
This is all just coping to avoid fear of failure, when you vocalize your goals to others it makes you accountable for them. Unironically the best thing you can do is tell your friends and family what you are working towards so you'll be forced to shamefully explain your failure to them if you b***h out and don't do what you said you would.
>DISAPPEAR, CUT ALL CONTACT FOR 3 MONTHS AND RETURN A LEADER.
It's not moronic. You have to realize a lot of normies are stuck in the loop of shitty habits because they're being reinforced by their environment. It's hard to change habits without changing everything associated with them. Regular smoke breaks at work, going to the bar, skipping breakfast because you will be late to work and buying slop later, etc.
Granted it's pretty fricking hard to disappear for 3 months, but if you really can start living in a different location with a new job and new people, there's no better way to change your habits. It's like a hard reset.
because it appeals to other socially moronic losers, pretty simple really. you think that mentally sane succesful people look at motivational youtube videos? lol
>Why are motivational speakers this socially moronic?
because it reminds me of that screencap with the gigachad HS QB kissing his cheerleader girlfriend: normal people don't need a 10 step plan to not touch their dick, avoid xenoestrogens by reverse osmosis filtering drinking water, replace every lightbulb with a red one, and ice their nutsack to successfully integrate into society and not appear like a shapeshifting alien to other normal people
normal people click onto a motivational video and close it immediately because they don't need to be motivated to get up, go to work, then go to the gym
OCD autists, germophobic asocial weirdos, and general unhappy nasty autists go searching for this shit because they feel like they're just a couple of nuggets of truth from becoming normally-functioning social people, and that the solution must be simpler than they think it is
For example, Jocko's advice is usually:
>wake yourself up at 4AM by smashing your head with an ice bucket
>go outside and scream
>intentionally stub your toe
>yell more
>run everywhere
>do workouts to failure
>you'll never be a navy seal unless you're constantly doing things to make yourself miserable
Then there's Andrew Huberman who appeals to the OCD germophobic asocial weirdos:
>a study on rats said that if you wake up at 430 your testosterone will be higher
>there was this really interesting study in possums, where if they gave the possum coffee less than one hour after waking up, their cortisol was too high
>you see, we did this MRI study and found that if you just remember things a lot, you'll remember more things, so spend an hour after you wake up remembering things, anything you can remember
>I saw this study where actually doing cold plunges increased your amount of male sperm by 375%, it was a study on horses but it's also applicable to people
>SCIENCE has shown that if you're only exposed to red light after 7 PM your testosterone increases
Then there's the general "life coach youtuber" bullshit that took what Bret Easton Ellis wrote (as satire) in American Psycho, and turns it into serious advice:
>wake up, do my 30 minutes of intentional gratitude
>then I make a holistic blend of free-range cruelty free coffee
>after that I do a cold plunge, sauna, medium shower, using cruelty-free NIST-validated sodium-free soap, then I cold plunge again to really amp up my mitochondria
>then I eat activated almonds and free-range cage free lettuce
>hop on a few calls and whenever I'm muted I do my gratitude reps
>call my personal trainer and nutritionist to get my day's routine
>at 6PM i get home and beat my ki- I mean spend quality time with the family
meanwhile to the rest of society the people actually carrying out this formulaic obsessive insanity look like fricking aliens wearing skin-suits
It's the easiest way to REMAIN an asocial weirdo, while picking up existential bitterness and OCD as convenient baggage
This is a devastating dissection of that grifter Huberman, he must have zero self awareness or otherwise he was born without the ability to feel shame. Guy is the epitome of can't see the forest for the trees.
he's jacked tho
About 95% of Jocko's advice is actually some version of "Think about other people's thoughts and feelings more, don't dwell on things you can't control, and search really hard for things you can control when you'd rather just get mad and complain." The 5% of the time where he says you need to grab your nuts and suffer is just the bits that autists fixate on.
> normal people don't need a 10 step plan to not touch their dick, avoid xenoestrogens by reverse osmosis filtering drinking water, replace every lightbulb with a red one, and ice their nutsack to successfully integrate into society and not appear like a shapeshifting alien to other normal people
I've been found out
I actually had to push all my friends away because I made out with one of my friends gf. I thought the most appropriate response from me was to disappear.
But in doing so, im way more fit, i actually got a new career as developer, and I got a new gf. Im not sure if losing all my friends and being on my own was the catalyst to all this but I cannot deny my life took a turn for the better after losing everyone.
And I don't think I would have had the same motivation as I did if I was still partying with my friends
All those make sense in the context of productivity. Let's say you're not satisfied with people that you know and keep in touch with, it is better to cut them off, work on something that might improve your situation and then come back and build better connections with someone you'll like more. It's the basic premise of so called monk mode, it works but only if you're willing to work really hard to make a difference.
I guess they're trying to make people spend less than 8 hours a day browins IG and instead go actually fricking do something with that time
These are true to a degree. If you have huge goals like setting up a business or something similar all of that shit is a major distraction at the end of the day. I had to go hermit mode for 2 weeks straight just to build my website.
>monk mode
>hermit mode
yet again, that's called "being heads down" by normal people
if you tell normal people
>hey I've got a big thing coming up, I'm going to be heads-down for basically all of March
they'll know not to bother you
no one's holding you back unless you're some kind of idiot who's friends with a bunch of crackheads, or surround yourself with idiots that actually sabotage you, in which case the problem is your judgement
>Unironically the best thing you can do is tell your friends and family what you are working towards so you'll be forced to shamefully explain your failure to them if you b***h out and don't do what you said you would.
this
adult friends will support you or at least keep themselves aware of commitments you have
Most of this shit is a byproduct of feminism pissing off men who now go out of their way to become more masculine, catalyzed by Instagram pseudo intellectuals who poorly understand stoicism/ ethical philosophy and psychology, then publish motivational shit. I blame the feminists for the surge in Andrew tates hubermans and jockos, but I blame brainlet men for their popularity. Whatever happened to fatherly advice
>Whatever happened to fatherly advice
that's truly the source of most of this shit
>Sam Hyde
>Huberman
>Jocko
>David Goggins
>Jordan Peterson
>Andrew Tate
and all of the other ones are essentially just surrogate fathers begging for money in exchange for "fatherly advice" on the internet
either their dad was a moron pussy, absent, or incompetent and so these people go on the internet searching for someone to teach them what their life means, since their dad never told them "sorry, you're gonna have to figure this shit out on your own, nobody can tell you how to do it right"
Huh, never even thought of it before but now that you list them all together I'm realizing that all of these dudes pin hormones and/or take mind altering drugs.
How are they surrogate fathers? Sounds like you're projecting there, homosexual
that's literally all the "male role model" industry is. surrogate fathers.
I'm nearly the same as you, the only difference being that I don't consider myself an introvert.
I don't know what the magic mixture is, but I think it's the genesis of
>the male version of "women who are trusted by wild animals and pets" is "men who are immediately trusted by schizophrenics and the homeless"
Most people, I think, lock themselves into a corporatist way of speaking and interacting, which is fine but siphons nearly all the color out of life. I've never gotten in trouble at my fortune 100 job for being too earnest or transparent, in fact it generally makes upper management trust me because I'm the first person to say "whoops, I fricked that up, I'll fix it by Friday"
he's basically every physio, ExSci, and neuroscience grad I knew from college
>I found this n=14 mouse model study that says that in low testosterone model mice, if you constantly massage their nutsack with beef tallow, their testosterone rises by 12%. I have been rubbing beef tallow all over my body every day and it seems like my testosterone is higher
meanwhile I've been working in regulatory for 10 years and regulators will laugh your ass out of the building if you bring a mouse study as evidence, even if it's just for an IDE
that's because he's on 160mg of test cyp per week, numbnuts
>NEVER TELL ANYONE ABOUT YOUR GOALS; THEY WILL ONLY SABOTAGE YOU.
This one is true. Just tell normals that you do pushups every once in a while or they'll get insecure and look for ways to frick you up.
Instead of push ups just say you do a lot of jumping jacks
>normals
>get insecure and look for ways to frick you up
Nah this is just projecting your own toxic incel personality onto everyone else because you are so autistic that you aren't capable of comprehending other people's perspectives, intentions, and motivations.
If you people around you really do want you to fail it's probably because they can sense that energy from you. Learn to be genuine and nice to people and they will be nice back.
I left my hometown for a few years on a whim to go work in Alaska, then when I made some decent money my parents convinced me to come back and go back to school. I did, but talking to everyone again made me realize the people who stayed were all dumb and short sighted people who just wanted me to be stuck there like them. I don’t hate them, but holy shit talk about new perspectives.
how are they shortsighted when you're the one who ended up coming back?
I came back because I thought it was going to be fun catching up with people, but they are all doing the exact same shit they were doing when I left. Now they think I’m the weird one for trying new hobbies and meeting new people, I’ve already told them I’m thinking of leaving again and they want me to stay just because.
Grass is always greener anon, being a judgemental douche with terminal fomo is no way to live.
I understand what you mean and I think another anon might be trying to help you when he says you're being judgemental
That word is a stop-thinking word so it is easy to ignore
Those people who did not leave to go to Alaska or do anything else are doing the same things they were when you left. You can approach this in a number of ways, but most approaches will leave them resentful of you and unaware of that fact. You will go back to Alaska because you don't feel connected to friends and possibly family in your hometown. They will think you got weird or elitist and left because you are some kind of snob.
Think about why your hometown people are doing the same things. They literally don't know anything different. Of the things they have experienced in life in hometown, the things they do are the most important to them. You have a wider range of experience. You might not find all the same things important now. Your friends might not either, if they are exposed to new things in a way that does not trigger an inferiority complex in them. This is where you come in to their lives. They are stuck playing vidya and you don't anymore? You can say why in a way that insults them for doing it, or say why you prioritized other things and did not miss vidya when you were doing those other things. They are listening to music you no longer like? Share new music with them without disparaging their current taste. They were your friends for a reason, they probably feel worse than you in their minds and look for reasons to think you also believe they are worse than you. Instead of giving them a reason, make them feel included in the journey you've taken so they can understand you.
Finally, back to 'judgemental' - it is easy to believe your own value judgements are superior to the rest of the world's. I do. You should too. Put your friends inside the circle of people with whom you are willing to share your values. Some will nope out but the ones left are friends worth having
i made the mistake of staying in my hometown anon.
Thankfully i get my degree this year and will frick off to do something that has nothing to do with it lmao.
Family sabotages 90 percent of people.
Because only morons look for self-help books and motivational speaker speeches to begin with.
They know their audience.
I think this is overly simplistic
They need to differentiate themselves from the mainstream- if you’re saying what people are already being told then how are you going to profiteer off your message? So they need to go against the grain to get attention and followers. Right now the mainstream is a bunch of get in touch with your emotions be sensitive nonsense, so influencers targeting men tend to say the opposite. Andrew Tate really is a master of this. It’s why he’ll say outlandish statements like a five minute rant about how men shouldn’t eat sushi. Yet he manages to package it in such a way that he’s offering ostensibly manhood affirming advice while doing so.
Because they are and target incels.