She
>is hornier more often, libido increased
>losing weight
>generally happier
>stopped taking anxiety pills
>starts cooking healthy meals since she is a good cook and creative but also wants to eat healthy
>more energy, stops daily naps
Why aren't you pushing your gf/wife to workout anon?
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I'm 27 years old and I've never kissed a girl.
how is this possible. Just start walking up to women at a bar and telling them this and one will sympathy make out with you, surely
So annoy her until she gives in
Everywhere. Grocery Store, Bars, Work, Gas station, ice rink, friends of friends, church, internet, dating apps
Her pepper spraying you and calling the cops is more likely.
terminally online autists are truly the worst lol
Key is women have to want it. You just need to push them, but if anyone wants to exercise/lose weight THEY need to be the ones that want to change. You just be the encourager. But ultimately its a burden they have to bare
This doesn't happen except in incel fantasies. You guys love to play victim to imaginary female boogymen. Then you claim that women are the problem.
Does she still look good? Then it's fine. Women are weak, but I love them.
Basically this. People that act like women are actual moronic children are usually insecure control freaks or just incels.
>how is this possible
Not him, for me it's lack of self love since always and just now: suicidal tendencies
I had sex with the girl working the hotel desk a couple nights ago and I’d just met her. You’re doing something wrong.
>having worthless sex with strangers
no, YOU are doing something wrong with your life
>being a worthless stranger
That's you
Same, except I'm 29
It's nothing special anon.
at that point just hire a hooker and go to dating/hookup apps. you may look down on these sorts of vanities but just get that checkbox of your list.
>at that point just hire a hooker and go to dating/hookup apps
And lose your one shot at being a wizard for this? Frick you, man. I didn't make it as a kid so I'm committing to the arch lich build.
I made it till 33, but it's been 7 years since then. My memory of it is fading for better or worse.
Post more esoteric pepes
Just 3 more years before you turn into a wizard, keep it up!
Same lol. I'm grossed out by it like do people just kiss another human being? What about germs?
We're gonna make it brah
I was 27 years old thinking of living a life of a hermit until I met my first gf shortly after my 27th birthday
High five
Same
>how is this possible.
It's literally easier than the alternative. The default action is always inaction.
I’d you start today, you can have fricked 20 girls by the time you are 30
31 here. it's gonna be ok, just use to loneliness.
Same. People my age in this country just don't exist or don't go outside or something
Because she gets annoyed after I keep pushing her to do it. Fricking frustrating. Women are like children in many ways.
>Women are like children
You could have just stopped there.
Are you saying that you aren't even man enough to be able to control a child? I guess manchild is a term for a reason. Be a real chad like me.
This anon is making a point. Yes, women are like children sometimes, which is exactly why every culture in the entire history of mankind said that men should be the leaders over women. If you can't properly lead your woman through life, and she keeps disagreeing with you, being annoyed by you, etc, then you are doing something fundamentally wrong.
Most likely you are approaching the situation from a needy, frustrated perspective yourself, which makes her psychology go on the defense. What 'trick' to getting your woman to follow you on something like this, is to set the example yourself, and never be needy about it. You should become the person who is like: "I am chad, and I lift and live a great life, and I can easily get many other women who'd love me and live the same lifestyle as me", which then triggers an instinct inside of your own wife which makes her think: "shit, he's awesome, I want to be his and be like him, and I don't want the other women to steal him".
I guess the essence of it really is, don't be a beta that tries to force her, but be a chad whom she'll naturally want to follow.
That all being said though, it's not actually a 'trick', and it only really works if this is who you truly are. Trying to act like a chad isn't going to work if deep down, you are actually a beta. You CAN become significantly more chadlike if you choose to, but it's not easy. It probably requires years of self improvement.
This literally works on most people, men and women alike. I work with a lot of clients and have a leadership role at work. I am great at my job and make a lot of money for it because I understand people.
True, it works on most people, but it is particularly important to take this approach with women. Men can be motivated in other ways as well. For example, if you have a fat friend, you can tell that friend something like: "bro, wtf are you doing with your life? Stop being a pussy and do something", and it will often actually work. Men can accept getting reality checked about the fact that they are down bad, and it will motivate them to make a change. Women however..., do not respond well to this harsh reality check method at all.
>For example, if you have a fat friend, you can tell that friend something like: "bro, wtf are you doing with your life? Stop being a pussy and do something"
To be fair, most men can't handle this and take it up the ass too. Even if they take it on the chin in the moment, they are secretly seething.
Maybe my example was a bit extreme, but you probably understand my point. Just look at self improvement books and videos oriented towards men vs women. The male self improvement content is much more harsh and about reality checking. Female self improvement content is all about women telling other women that they are beautiful queens.
>they are secretly seething.
Of course they are but they use that seething to power them. Women will see the and seek validation from elsewhere to tell them they're perfect as is.
You act like women have no desire to become better, when that is patently untrue. For the record, most of the dudes I've told to lose weight have not. They obviously want to, but they choose to be sad about being fat instead of doing anything meaningful about it. Sometimes they'll workout for a month, or change their eating habits, but they never really change.
Women have a desire to brag to their friends about who’s husband is most accomplished and fish for compliments on social media or by hosting the best parties or living viscariously through their children’s accomplishments
People like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson have taught insecure men that if they are spoken to like that, you need to overreact because your masculinity is being threatened. "Menfluencers" have given a lot of moronic kids a lot of bad ideas about what it means to be a man and their entitlement as a man.
Or maybe, the reason that these 2 people are so ridiculously immensely popular among men, is because men have always been this way, and these are 2 very rare people that speak to men in a way that they understand, in an otherwise extremely weak society that is speaking an ever more feminized language.
No, it's because they act like men should be able to do whatever they want because they are men.
What the frick are you talking about. That is not the message at all. You're moronic
NTA, but that's what young men are taking from their videos.
Every single "man" I know that takes those 2 fricks seriously are also the type of people to fly off the handle when actually spoken to in that manner.
They're basically the equivalent of fat CoD larpers that claim they could be SEALs when they'd just wash out or break down once they got yelled at by a drill sergeant.
Andrew Tate was assraped in jail and Jordan Peterson wrote a self help hook yet was addicted to Benzos and had to go to therapy. Any man that goes to therapy is a total gay let alone the irony of that person writing a self help book is a joke
NTA, good post. I'm gonna clean up my house a bit
If you can't handle someone you view as a child, then you should be embarrassed to call yourself a man. You are a child yourself.
>t. Black person who never had to deal with children
Just stfu you moron, I don’t expect a terminally online subhuman like you to understand interacting with humans, let alone children
Nah. I don't spend much time online, as evidenced by the fact that I actually speak to women and treat them like people. They treat me well too.
listen you freak, they are NOTHING like children. I'm not some kind of sick frick that things about fricking women.
Where do you find normal women that don't hate men at this point?
Get off the internet. The only people I see saying this are actual incels that spend all their time b***hing about women with other incels online and dudes angry that women don't treat them like gods. Women still love men, and men still love women. Go outside. Talk to people. People like you are so pathetic and annoying.
I saw some trashy meth prostitute at a gas station late at night while we were waiting for someone to come to the register. Was so tempted to ask her out. Totally out my league, she was fat, short, and ugly, but man... holy shit this booze is kicking in lol i just go so dizzy
In non-pozzed Christian denominations. In my particular denom, almost all the girls I talk to dream of being married and having children. They all dress modestly, keep their hair long, and don’t wear pounds of makeup (easier to separate the hots from the fake hots)
I work out with my wife every day, she's a great gym bro.
Background, she's a nerd. Never did sports growing up, very uncoordinated, never did any sort of training. Naturally small (doesn't eat much). I got her into training recently and she's the best gym bro now.
>always enthusiastic over small improvements, form, feeling the muscle, or weight increases
>genuinely excited to lift every time we go, even upper body days (favorite day is bench day)
>started looking at my body more critically, tells me what is looking good and what areas could be improved
>she's getting more coordinated, more capable in her body. Doesn't fall as often, less clumsy.
>better libido
>genuinely happier
>she's learned how to try, this is always the biggest obstacle for newbies. She truly reaches failure now.
>enjoys the pain of lifting
I love my wife bros.
>started looking at my body more critically, tells me what is looking good and what areas could be improved
She's gonna frick the next chad that hits on her.
nah senpai. Go doomer zoomer pill somewhere else. She's a good woman.
NTA but no she won't. Why do people feel an urge to say "shes fricking tyrone" everytime someone says they have a wife on this board lol?
I never said anything about him being black. That sounds like your own insecurity. Would you be ok with your wife cheating if he were white? Wtf, man?
it's mostly because every board on IST gets spammed by "built for" spammers, and guys who constantly say shit about tyrone and jamal. not really surprising he assumed you meant it was a black.
also, yes, it is less offensive if your wife fricks a guy at the same level. her deciding to date down basically means you're even lower than you thought and it's extra insulting.
They are sadge. I feel for the lonely bros out there. Keep workin on yourselves guys.
Just because someone else is happy doesn't take anything away from you. That's some chick logic right there.
so this anon just has to hit on her constantly. this is actually not a problem at all.
Larp. Married people don’t exist
We actually got married 4 weeks ago. Been together 10 years, very happy 🙂
Went to Aruba for our honeymoon. Highly recommend!
Jealous. I hate mine. She complains all the time.
Good luck with your risk, I'm sure you're the exception and marriage to her and the government will really workout for you!
Marraige rates are actually pretty successful if you only count white people. Divorce rates are only high because of black people and Vegas one night marriages, etc.
They should really start doing stats on white people only or people that make >70,000$/year.
This shit really might be a psyop, its demoralizing and almost as disingenuous as the gender pay gap
Already been together 10 years my brother. We're doing just fine friendo. I hope you find a good woman too.
I had to let my wife quit her job to be a SAHM to pull this off.
It’s been 100 percent worth it though.
I can hardly speak to strangers without falling apart. You think I'm going to get a gf?
>Why aren't you pushing your gf/wife to workout anon?
She sucks at it and it's frustrating to have to babysit her doing basic exercises. I refuse to go to a gym with her, she is unmotivated and lazy when it comes to exercise so she isn't going to go on her own.
Still, I'm trying to get her to do basic strength training because god damn it she's such a fricking weakling. I bought 30 bags of mulch last weekend. They were 3 cubic feet bags so I dunno maybe like 40 pounds because they were wet. I was carrying 3 of them at a time and she was struggling to pick up 1. In fact, she fricking dropped the thing halfway and punctured the bag with her fingers and started spilling mulch everywhere. I know this sounds so fricking bad to say but I wish she was more like my mom in that one regard. My mom grew up on a farm and isn't afraid of doing any amount of work and she's surprisingly useful for stuff like that. By contrast my wife is weak and complains constantly and has no grit or determination, but then again I knew that going into marrying her and she's great in a lot of very important ways but holy frick I just want her to lift and stop being such a pussy.
Because then you would complain that she's not feminine enough. Then get insecure about your masculinity because you aren't the big manly man carrying mulch.
This is what you got out of this? You're dumb as hell bro.
I don't want her doing the same amount as me, because that's basically impossible. I just want her to not be a useless weakling who can't do the most basic things to help out outside the home. Frick, this one time when we still lived in some shitty apartment I made the mistake of assuming she could carry a relatively light couch up a flight of stairs with me. Jesus christ it was awful.
>can't do the most basic things to help out outside the home
A woman's place is in the home. Basically, you aren't man enough to fill your role and take care of her in your space and role.
>being such a loser of a man that he needs his wife to help him carry mulch
Kek. I can't stop laughing.
She volunteered for it you stupid aspie morons.
>oh we're going to do some spring landscaping? Okay! I'll help with the weeding and the mulch!
Then before I know it a bag is sitting on the lawn with mulch falling out of it and I told her to stop and go away.
She'd probably take it pretty well to be honest, but it wouldn't change anything.
>She volunteered for it
Then she sounds based and you should be proud that she tried her best to make you happy.
Yeah, like I said she's great in a lot of ways. She's just really weak and really lazy and unmotivated about changing that.
You should tell her your wife you wish she was more like your mother and report back with results of how it went.
Hey bro I'm this poster up here. I was in a very similar situation. Took a few tries to get her to commit to the gym.
This is some unsolicited advice but I'm gonna let er' rip anyways. Typically, when I'm training with dudes it's more of a drill sergeant style vibe. You know, yelling, calling them a weak pussy, hitting their back before a lift. Typical shit you'd expect from a couple of meatheads. This style DID NOT work for my wife. It made her upset, and think that she was doing bad. What worked was
> Starting off slow with a few core lifts Squat, deadlift, pullups, bench
> really focusing on the form with low weight (effort comes later)
> compliment her A LOT for every little que she's remembering
> this helps build confidence (you mentioned she feels self conscious, this is very very common)
> once the form is down, and her confidence is up you can introduce effort
> start bumping the weights up, or challenging her to do more reps closer to failure
> soon enough she'll be proud of herself for doing more, and feeling good about how well she's excercising
I get that this is a bit of babying, but women need a different style of gym partner typically. More carrot less stick (I love the stick no homo). I really really had to change the way I approached training with my wife but it's been very worth it. We have another activity where we can spend quality time together and better ourselves. I wish you the best of luck anon, godspeed.
Yeah, I don't do the drill instructor thing with her when she's made attempts. The thing is her attitude is just "this is stupid, why do I need to be strong? If I need someone to lift something heavy I'll just ask you to do it!" which it's like...yeah that's true but there have been multiple scenarios where it would have been a huge benefit to everyone if she wasn't a useless weakling and she just ignores those.
Going to the gym with me isn't happening. For one, I lift with my brother, I lift late at night, we have 4 kids and can't both leave the house at the same time. I've gotten her some minimal weights to get started at home but she's largely disinterested in keeping up with it. I suppose I have to just keep trying but it's so frustrating because like you said, someone has to want to do it themselves.
Yeah she still looks good, she has a fast metabolism and doesn't have any gluttonous eating habits.
Right. I mean if she WANTED to do it with me, I'd grit my teeth and take plates off over and over just so I could help support her with it, but she has absolutely no desire to do it.
Yeah that's fair, with kids homegym is kinda the only option.
It's really hard (impossible) to get someone to try at something they see no value in. I feel for you bro. I hope she's able to change her mindset. Do you have any fit female friends in your friend group that you can coerce into exercising with her? XD
>two birds with one stone
>you dont need to lift with her
>she lifts with a friend
Nah. She has like two friends total. One of them is this girl she's known since forever who is basically a human baby factory and has 10 kids, very impressive, great woman and she's still pretty good looking too, but she doesn't live nearby anymore. The other one is IST but a cardio nut and I very seriously doubt she would have any interest in lifting weights with my wife since they mostly bonded over the fact that we're neighbors and our kids are all the same ages.
Exactly. She gives up way too soon. Like I know most women never make too much progress but still, the drive just isn’t there. She gets a pass rn cuz she’s pregnant but if she starts complaining after that baby comes out I’m gonna have to say something because she has no drive. She’s been by me as I’ve lost 64kg and has seen how it’s possible to lose weight, and tbh if she lost 7-10kg she’d be at her ideal bw for her height, and she could do it within a year for sure but she just won’t buckle down and that’s what’s frustrating. Idgaf how she looks, that’s not why I married her, and she stuck w me when I was pushing 160kg, but the complaining paired with the laziness and lack of diet discipline that pisses me off.
This is a huge factor. She was way weaker than me when I started lifting, now I have to take off two pl8s every set when she wants to bench with me. If annoying because I know when she goes alone that she’s hardly doing anything, and I don’t want to hurt her feelings but she has made essentially zero progress since we both started going.
>she is unmotivated and lazy when it comes to exercise so she isn't going to go on her own.
I feel your pain bro. My wife is one of the thinnest women around and yet is totally out of shape. Ironically, it may very well be her thinness, which has caused the problem because already a top tier women by virtue of not being fat aka she gets plenty of validation and feels no need to work out
i am so angry to you Black person
>is """"""fit""""" but still cant carry bags
>HE (you are a male but not a man) LETS HIS SMALL WEAK WIFE CARRY BAGS
>the AUDACITY IN THIS Black person TO CALL HIS WEAK WIFE OUT WHEN SHE COULDNT CARRY IT
if i was your father i couldnt even call you my son holy frick you are moronic and weak kys
what gun is that? That magazine makes me think it's a pistol caliber "toy" gun but probably fun for plinking.
I pushed my wife to get a job once and supported her by making her lunches and taking her to work and picking her up. She quickly rose to manager because basic competence is a rare human characteristic now but she's still got some of the problems even though she lost the weight and seems happier.
It's a "pistol/handgun" designed to be as short as possible by having a suppressor/flashhider be part of the barrel and have a "buttstock". Supposed to be good for home defense because lower recoil, lower profile, and lower sound. I think, I don't visit /k/.
>gf
>wife
Very funny, anon.
So glad I'm not an American. Imagine being addicted to talking about Black wieners, letting your wife frick a black guy and being only able to jake off to interracial sex
I'm so glad I'm American, do none of those things, and don't obsess over whichever shitty country you're from.
Well I'm an American and I don't fantasize about people from other countries doing that stuff unlike you. Seems like projection tbh
I'm so over women, been with 20 intimately, three 4 year long relationships, while they differ on most levels, the core tenants of their personality is always the same. I'm tired of never being good enough, I'm tired of being judged, I'm tired of being someone I'm not for someone I think I want, I'm tired of falling in love just for it to wear off.
I'm about to turn 30 and I'm not going to chase anymore, I've wasted an entire decade doing that, and for what? I'm going to focus on being as hot as possible, while saving money, and working on my writing and art. If someone comes along so be it, but I give up ladies, you win.
sounds like you're maybe a bad judge of character to continually position yourself in relationships with c**ts
This board sure assumes a lot, or is it just projection?
>waaah nobody agreed with and sympathized with me so they must be PROJECTING!
Shut up you stupid baby. If you want people to gaslight you with false validation or give you hugs go someplace else.
I'm not even that anon, those replies just assumed a lot of things that weren't in that anons post.
You acting like a child only confirms my suspicions.
>white knighting for another anon because your feelings were hurt for him by proxy
jesus you're an insufferable friendless homosexual
Again you project, which is why I called you out in the first place idiot
>but I give up ladies, you win
>sees relationships as a competition, wonders why things don't work
I can't tell if you're baiting, or just actually stupid.
All relationships are over around the 4 year mark unless you have kids. Some people don't break up at that 4 year mark, but the relationship is indeed over.
>I'm tired of never being good enough, I'm tired of being judged, I'm tired of being someone I'm not for someone I think I want
It sounds like your main problem is that you've been faking who you are in an attempt to seduce women. If you fake who you are, and constantly try to present yourself in a slighty cooler, more chadlike way then you actually are deep down, then yes, obviously interacting with women is going to be extremely frustrating and burn you out mentally, especially in a long term relationship. In an attempt to counter this, you don't necessarily have to go full black pill mode. You could also try to just have more integrity and actually be yourself around women.
>I'm tired of never being good enough, I'm tired of being judged, I'm tired of being someone I'm not for someone I think I want, I'm tired of falling in love just for it to wear off.
Basically
. You keep playing a mental game where one of you needs to be superior to the other. You need a power dynamic where you come on top. You fall out of "love" (you haven't been in love btw) because whoever you like just turns out to be a human being, instead of your perfect mommydaughterwifesexslavepersonalchefmaid.
The problem is alot of men judge their relationships with women (whether they realize it or not) on the relationship they had with their moms....and your mom is the only person who will love you unconditionally, love you for you, blah blah blah. In romantic relationships, women have evolved to be the ultimate pragmatists--they're constantly asking themselves "what does this guy bring to the table that benefits me?" and once you cease to be useful to a women, that's when the relationship dies. Men are having an increasingly difficult time with women because for the most part women don't need men any more when it comes to safety, security, and provisioning...between her and the government she already has all that shit covered. Accordingly, the value that men often bring is either sexual novelty (i.e. Chad), exceptional provisioning (lots more money then she could ever make), or he's just an all around awesome guy (funny, charismatic, smart, etc.)
Your average man is none of these, and that's why we have an epidemic of sexless guys.
I was sexless once. Then I walked outside and lived.
I think NH said this exact same thing word for word Ina video
fixed your cope image
I insist this hoe put so much pressure on the husband to have a perfect Insta life that he ended khs
>Why aren't you pushing your gf/wife to workout anon?
When my wife loses weight she loses it from her breasts. She went from 145 to 115 over the last two years and went from having melons to golf balls in a sock.
Yeah sucking on boobs is one of the #1 perks of having a chunky wife/gf
you realize thin women still have breasts right?
I’ve started, got some ways to go. Taking her to see the Whale next week.
Breast implants on a thin frame are incredibly based.
god I miss her so much
Fake breasts aren’t even fun. Feels like you’re playing with a kids toy
My ex was more frustrating than anything when she worked out with me. She is no longer around. Thank fricking God - if you wanna be with someone who also goes to the gym, they have to be into it before you met. Fixing a fatty can be done but nearly impossible
F
Because she’s a fricking c**t and leaving the house to go workout after work is my refuge. I’d rather stop lifting than have her join me.
my wife works out at the gym everyday before work and I love it.
She's bubblier, has more energy, doesn't just lie down when we're making love, and has an attractive and firm body.
chill anon, she's already working out and cooking them healthy meals. all i had to do was buy a squat rack.
Idk what's dumber working out or getting married. Picrel is mental illness on all fronts. You vs. her and the government pact.
Trying but she has syringomyelia and also takes oxycodon. She is willing tho. I guess i just need to adjust and fond Something that doesnt frick her up. She gets tired really quick which i think maybe is a bit laziness aswell.
I'm with OP on this. My fiancée is finally seeing the benefits of going to the gym and has straight up apologised for dismissing my advice to her over the past few years. She wants sex more often, saves money by not buying crap food or booze to feel better and is excited that she can buy and fit in more clothes.
There's still road bumps mind - like her fat friends are genuinely bad people who are jealous and always try to get her to eat with them at restaurants or come up with stupid arguments like "let's eat cake together that way its less calories."
Frick you Sara you fat cow. It's shit like that why no one wants to date you.
Yeah my wife had a group of fat miserable friends. I ask her why she is even friends with them. One is an alcoholic who never leaves her basement. 2 are lesbian with each other. One is married but is trashy. I’m like what are these people giving you?
Unironically the clothes thing. My own mother is self-counting calories self-prompted, just so she can fit into her newest coat.
Maybe your woman has clothes from 30 pounds ago she'd like to wear again.
if you want to fix her fat friends, here's what you do
>knock the fattie out
>get some gloves and lube
>stick a HUGE tapeworm up her ass
>slap her awake
>tell her she drank too much and that she should go home
>frick wife while trying not to think about intestinal worms
Bro, shes fricking that black chad at the gym.
Women with guns is a big turn on for me
Guns are for weak twinks and women
How do you hunt then? I thought eating meat you milk yourself was based and red pilled? Wtf is it with you people
>this board
>wife/gf
HAR HAR HAR.
They couldn't even pay a hooker without being rejected.
Let me give you some personal insight on the matter.
I've been with my wife for 10 years now. We met in high school, and I got her pregnant.
She is and always has been a lazy person and a shit cook. I wouldn't even mind eating shit food if she at least made it on time. But she rarely did.
We'd get into screaming arguments constantly about how lazy and worthless she was. I felt like an butthole for it, but goddamn she was a real piece of work. The only reason I dealt with all this was for the kids, and also because the sex is great.
But one night, I got fed up. Not only did she get drunk, neglect the kids, and made me top Ramen for dinner, but she decided to give me attitude too. She was being real fricking b***hy. So I told my grandparents to keep an eye on the kids and told my wife we were going to go out and have dinner together. I drove maybe 3 blocks to a quiet area (we live in Oregon, it's not hard to find a quiet field) and I got out of the car, went around like I was going to open her door for her and let her out, and I just beat the shit out of her while she was still seatbelted. After a few punches, I asked her if she wanted to go back to her parents. She started screaming and yelling and said yes, so I beat the shit out of her again. Then I asked her what she wanted to do. She finally got smart and said she wanted to go home. So I took her home and dared her to start trouble. I even handed her my cellphone and dialed her mom's number on the drive home. I made her talk to her mom, while daring her to fricking say something.
Before that incident, I had never laid a hand on her. But I had always threatened it. I told her "one of these days, if you don't straighten up, I'm going to lay hands on you."
All my meals have been on time, and she just recently tried to make a meatloaf. It was mediocre, but I was just thrilled that she tried.
Do with this information what you will.
involuntary celibate larp pasta