I'm 26-27 boomer starting my lifting journey from a total corporate couch potato. I'm currently 85kg cutting down to 75kg before I start bulking/developing strength gains.
Hypothetically, how slow would my progress be because of my age?
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>I’m ready to buckle up and gymcel after spending 27 years sedentary drinking and eating shit being a sexless loser. I’m ready for my 8/10 tradcath wife nd 5 Aryan offspring now
Do chuds really?
From what I've seen the strongest men in the world are like 29-35, but I don't know if that's because they've been lifting their whole life or not. Intelligence has similar numbers and that's because of education (acquired knowledge).
Regardless, you shouldn't really care about what your potential peak was 10 years ago, you should only be concerned with what your potential peak is now. You're never going to be 17 again. But in 10 years, you're going to look back to today and say, "I'm never going to be 27 again." I know it sounds corny when people say, "The best time to start is now," but that's genuinely true.
I can't speak for him, but me being a permavirgin doesn't change the fact I want to like the way I look. Losing fat is an incredible feeling.
Turned 24 a few days ago and I'm realizing that every good part of being alive is in being young. And I missed out on all of it. Hanging out with hot young alt girls, fricking them, drinking everyday and it not hurting you, doing drugs and it not hurting you, working only part time and living with your parents being socially acceptable, having an active friend thats actually available to do stuff and go to concerts and get wasted. Nothing good happens after 25. Literally nothing. There is nothing good about responsibility. There is nothing good about getting uglier. Your purpose on earth at that point is economically propping up society so 16-23 year olds can enjoy the only good part of existence. I'm such a loser.
It's true the number of things you can do shrinks as you age, but half the stuff you listed are things you shouldn't want to do anyway.
>drugs and alcohol not hurting you
This is cope, I started drinking at 14
Yeah you should just end it. That's the only to makeup for it
I didn't know 27 is aging age, literally the prime for men
>bro even though I’m a 23 year old Incel it’s not over I haven’t hit my prime I’m not even a Norwood three yet
Do chuds unironically?
ok, you tell me, when is it over?
2 years old should already be taking roids, at 13 you should be at Arnolds level when he was at his peak. At 27 you should already be arm wrestling with God. Its too late for bro don't even start. I suggest you hide in your cave for the rest of your twenties and thirties.
When you're dead silly.
ehen you are born east of Vienna or south of Rome
If you’re sexless and friendless at age 20 your value as a human has been determined. You’re basically a worthless husk made solely to farm taxes and serve as entertainment mules for normal people and chads. You should have a nice day if you’re like that
That's what I thought and I regret it. I feel like I've been in a coma for 20 years. I judged the world based on high school, which is stupid because (1) who cares about the hundred or so normalgays who just happened to be born in the same town as you, you need to leave to find people like yourself, and (2) you shouldn't be doing anything with lifelong consequences before 21, teenagers are lazy, disagreeable and neurotic, 21-year old you would never befriend the people you did in high school.
Cope. If you leave school never having had sex and no friends you are a loser, will always be a loser, nothing you ever do will make you not a loser. have a nice day
it's a bit hyperbolic but there's a grain of truth to it. most people who were losers in hs are still losers today. only one guy turned out to be a gigachad but he was more of a lying narcy weirdo not a incel chud, and another did okay and has a stable relationship with an uglyish girl
Chuds seethe at this fact because they know they're hopeless but try to cope with the gym, hence why the gymcel meme came to be. They should have a height requirement to enter all gyms
I had friends, though, it's just the ones I chose to hang out with weren't a good influence on me. I also had a reputation for being funny. I remember 3 of my 4 classes the day I dropped out and in two of them someone said something like, "Oh, Anon's here? This is gonna' be a good class." I just didn't think that was enough. I wanted something more than that.
And that was stupid, you're never going to see those people again and you shouldn't be proud to be a normalc**t. If you actually stop and think about them, forget whether they liked you or not, did YOU actually care about THEM? Probably not.
I lost my virginity at 16 and I would gladly rearrange your face on someone else's behalf, but we all know don't act like this irl so it's never going to happen. You are a disgusting disease carrying vermin that should be snuffed out.
Stop entertaining that mental case and better yet leave this board, you'll learn nothing of value here that you can't find elsewhere that also doesn't contain the most bitter little crabs
Your uncle doesn’t count chud
Cope
so true. After age 23, most males are similar. those 4 years of uni and a few more years of full time work beat the frick out of your personality and turn you into a drone.
"Personality" is a cope. Chad can wageslave and get hundred of women thirsting for him meanwhile the manlet grinds out a high paying career and kills itself age 35 due to loneliness
>"Personality" is a cope.
sure. not arguing that.
but i noticed at age 24, almost everyone turned into a drone. something happens to people after 4 years of university. and something else happens after working full time for another few years. it would dumb to deny something happens to a man's personality after those 7 years.
It’s because you lose the youthful optimism of your future and realise you’re not special, you’re not destined for great things. For 90% of men who aren’t chad 24 is when it sinks in you’re just a drone
>It’s because you lose the youthful optimism of your future and realise you’re not special, you’re not destined for great things.
i dont think its this, i think the 4 year in uni and the 40 hour work week takes it toll on you. Most males are single and happy when they were in high school
i wouldnt be surprised if being in a relationship with a girl and marriage actually makes a man less well off but we just dont notice it cause we are so desperate for a female.
>21-year old you would never befriend the people you did in high school.
kinda not really. as you get older, you are more "tolerable" of others. You get a long with more people, which means you just lowered your standard and everyone over age 21 went though the brainwashing program. The people i dont care about now, are people i wouldve seen as losers in high school.
>norwood three
Those of with healthy test levels don’t know what that crap even means because we're not balding. Get that checked out first before worrying about your age.
This is a meme. Men don't have a set prime age. Women do, because their sexual market value is based primarily on their looks. There are exceptions, but in general women will lose options as they age. Men can vary more greatly, depending on what age they hit their peak physique, when they gain more social confidence, when they make more money, etc.
that's a redpill delusion. men surely have a set prime age that overlaps with their physical prime, simply because, just like women, their SMV is now much more closely tied to their attractiveness. back when men where providers this was completely different of course. but in the west a young man is mostly rated on his looks, and ageism is everywhere
>and ageism is everywhere
it actually isnt. its only a zoomer thing. a 40 year old doenst look down on a 30 year old or look down on an 80 year old. a 30 year old doesnt look down on a 30 year old or a 70 year old. Its only zoomers that look down on every one 30 and above.
young millenials are ageist too. older people no, because that would be self-hate. older age has never had such a horrible reputation as it does in this day and age
Lol. This boomer hate isnt "ageist." Its just jelly at a group of people owning nice homes while the young millenials stuggle and living in a dying country. Zoomers actually are ageist though.
>Women do
and when you find out how short and low that age is, its saddening. 18-21. and females being so emotional and c**ty, they lash out on society and men in many ways.
frick off moron, 25 is LITERALLY the absolute prime of male health. Oh wow you are 1 year older DAMN YOU REALLY ARE A FRICKING SENILE BOOMER FRICKING IDIOT JUST FRICKING FRICK OFF AND DONT EVEN START
I started recently at 27 and I'm making gains at a normal enough pace. I play it a bit safe because I know I don't have the restorative powers of a 16 year old but I'm not a coward about it either. People here really exaggerate the effects of aging a few years.
Can you train six days a week or do you need a day of recovery?
Listen here OP. You can be 5 or 60 It's never too early or late to start working on your health. But you need to start lifting and stop asking stupid questions like "iM 27, iS iT oVeR?". Of course not, you have so much life to live. Start now or regret for eternity.
But will I still be able to reach my peak potential ?
Yes you could, but you won't because you are mentally weak. Doesn't matter even if you started at 20. With your b***h mindset you'd be lucky to reach half your potential.
This is a lifestyle change, its a permanent thing, not something you just do for a while.
>reach my peak potential
no you stupid moron, hes too old to do that and thats assuming you remove the years of training required to reach peak potential
but who gives a shit, the real question is
>can I improve pretty much every aspect of my life tremendously. Aspects such as sex life/aesthetics, mental stamina, and of course physicality FAR beyond the peak of what I have experienced within a reasonable time frame?
yes
you can become fitter than ever, in all the above mentioned ways
your libido won't be like it was at 16, but it will be better than at 23
>bulking at 75 kg
are you 190 or taller?
27-32 is the apex of male physique and performance. Stop b***hing.
my entire body is broken at 26
Unless you have some serious genetic defect or got disfigured in an accident you’re basically just untrained. I’d be surprised if a good diet and a strict exercise regime won’t fix that within 2-3 months.
I'm 46 and I still lift. Don't worry, you're fine. 27 is still young. Stop worrying about it and do your routine.
I still to this day do not know what this unfunny normalhomosexual meme is about
Ugly vs handsome. Literally every single joke is about an ugly chud and a good looking guy or a manlet getting mogged by a tallchad. Gymcels on suicide watch
>i am going to cut so i can bulk
Its already over,
Don't cut
Lift big object from point A to point B
Rest a lot.
Reading this thread was a great reminder as to why you must take advice from IST with the biggest grain of salt.
Seriously, if you honestly think that if you arent a chad by the time that you leave HS then you should kys, please stop for a moment and carefully reconsider your priorities in life.
Much love to everyone except degenerate dommers
You don't become chad, you are born Chad. Keep coping loser
Im not coping homosexual, im perfectly happy with my life unlike you, matter of fact since your not perfect you should kys right now, we wouldnt want your incel ass giving girls the ick while you mew on the street
You can not be chad and be happy like how many Buddhists monks are and you can be a chad and be unhappy like how many Hollywood actors are. It literally isn't about being happy moron, its about accepting your lot in life and your position and moving on from it.
Dude, you aren’t aging. I’m 45, and fight & frick like I’m 25. I work with guys that are 50+, ripped and bad ass as frick. Your “age” isn’t as much of a factor as your level of physical activity, mentality, and diet/lifestyle.
Average corpo midwit
You should lift before shedding mass, fat will only aid you in leveraging protein intake towards gains.
Sorry you needed fit to learn this
b***h I'm 74 and i can 1/2/3/4
>Hypothetically, how slow would my progress be because of my age?
Who gives a shit? Worying aout the time it would take just adds unnecessary stress and is a waste of mental energy you could better spend focusing on healing your body nad improving your life, techniques, job skill, social skills, etc. if it's something you plan on doing for the rest of your life and are not in any competition or blue collared job