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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >[no citation required]

    guaranteed 200 reply thread though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/
      >World Health Organization: "Red meat is linked to cancer." "An analysis of data from 10 studies estimated that every 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by about 18%."

      IST digging itself into an early grave lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >IST digging itself into an early grave lmao
        why are you doing that?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >~~*WHO*~~

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The best evidence says no link between red meat and cancer. That WHO report is fake news
        >Most importantly for the IARC report, two major dietary intervention studies that should have contributed to the assessment of the claimed relationship of red meat and cancer were not considered. The first was a study of colon polyps, the precancerous growths that greatly increase the likelihood of developing colon cancer. Almost 1,900 subjects with a recent history of having a polyp removed were divided into a control group that ate their usual diet and a group following a diet characterized by significant decreases in total fat, red, and processed meat along with increases in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes (Schatzkin et al., 2000). Participants were followed for 3 years and at the end of that time, the recurrence of colon polyps was identical in both diet groups. It is possible that the precancerous stage may not have been the proper time for dietary intervention. The Women’s Health Initiative, therefore, studied a low-fat diet, achieved in large part by reducing red- and processed-meat consumption, among almost 49,000 women (Beresford et al., 2006); about 30,000 followed their normal diets and almost 20,000 were assigned to low-fat diets. After 9 years, the rate of colon cancer was almost identical in the low-fat and control-diet groups. These studies strongly suggest that the observational studies are not supported by dietary intervention studies at either the precancerous or malignant tumor stages of colon cancer.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7015455/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People also have to understand that "processed meat" in these studies includes anything from salted meat to meat with several other ingredients. Bad methodology.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WHO
        you mean the homies who told everyone that Covid is deadly?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The same WHO led by a mudslime man who was telling everyone to just cancel Christmas chuds, it’s not even a big deal like omg get over it, that WHO. Never said to cancel Hanukkah though, curious.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering how many people relied on a diet of red meat to survive for thousands of years and cancer rates are relatively new... My grandmother born in the 30s grew up exclusively on "organic" farm grown potatoes and pork. Didn't start eating processed foods until she was too old to cook for herself. She got colorectal cancer anyway. Pretty much every food has studies for drawbacks on the body. Just eat what works for you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how many people relied on a diet of red meat to survive for thousands of years
          Like the Inuits who had severe heart disease?
          >grew up exclusively on "organic" farm grown potatoes and pork.
          And the pork gave her bowel cancer. Red meat is known to do that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Like the Inuits who had severe heart disease?
            The evidence showing that comes from Inuits who no longer were eating their traditional diet. Adrenal glands were a big contributor to the Inuit's vitamin C and now they get most of it from Tang, lol.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The evidence showing that comes from Inuits who no longer were eating their traditional diet.
              Nah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hmm, I thought you were referring to other data but a study of 4 mummies is terrible evidence. No one sane or intelligent is saying all hunter-gatherer populations were or are completely absent from atherosclerosis, that's quite dumb, what some of us argue is that it was rare in a good part of those populations.

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10195443/#r141

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a diet rich in omega 3
                pufa strikes again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sample size: 3
                Hahaha

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > red meat gives you cancer
        > according to a study done in processed meat, which is not the same thing as red meat
        I despise journalists.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/0u8FeHX.jpg

        *gives you heart disease*

        cooked crusts being toxic has been studied to death, sorry youre moronic

        shallots

        What's a good vegan alternative if you can't tolerate onions?

        here's your 100% animal cruelty free meal, sweaty

        eat up, big boy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Processed meat
        Phew bullet dodged, will have my medium rare steak now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the best evidence suggests even the evil processed meat is probably fine see

          The best evidence says no link between red meat and cancer. That WHO report is fake news
          >Most importantly for the IARC report, two major dietary intervention studies that should have contributed to the assessment of the claimed relationship of red meat and cancer were not considered. The first was a study of colon polyps, the precancerous growths that greatly increase the likelihood of developing colon cancer. Almost 1,900 subjects with a recent history of having a polyp removed were divided into a control group that ate their usual diet and a group following a diet characterized by significant decreases in total fat, red, and processed meat along with increases in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes (Schatzkin et al., 2000). Participants were followed for 3 years and at the end of that time, the recurrence of colon polyps was identical in both diet groups. It is possible that the precancerous stage may not have been the proper time for dietary intervention. The Women’s Health Initiative, therefore, studied a low-fat diet, achieved in large part by reducing red- and processed-meat consumption, among almost 49,000 women (Beresford et al., 2006); about 30,000 followed their normal diets and almost 20,000 were assigned to low-fat diets. After 9 years, the rate of colon cancer was almost identical in the low-fat and control-diet groups. These studies strongly suggest that the observational studies are not supported by dietary intervention studies at either the precancerous or malignant tumor stages of colon cancer.
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7015455/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't this the same homies who told us to take an experimental jabs and shilled us sneed oil margarines and other ''organic food substitutes''...yeah I'm thinking another globalist/anti-populist plot on this one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Health Organization

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget the World Health Organization was also telling guys in Africa if they chop their foreskins off, they won't get HIV.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The best evidence says no link between red meat and cancer. That WHO report is fake news
        >Most importantly for the IARC report, two major dietary intervention studies that should have contributed to the assessment of the claimed relationship of red meat and cancer were not considered. The first was a study of colon polyps, the precancerous growths that greatly increase the likelihood of developing colon cancer. Almost 1,900 subjects with a recent history of having a polyp removed were divided into a control group that ate their usual diet and a group following a diet characterized by significant decreases in total fat, red, and processed meat along with increases in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes (Schatzkin et al., 2000). Participants were followed for 3 years and at the end of that time, the recurrence of colon polyps was identical in both diet groups. It is possible that the precancerous stage may not have been the proper time for dietary intervention. The Women’s Health Initiative, therefore, studied a low-fat diet, achieved in large part by reducing red- and processed-meat consumption, among almost 49,000 women (Beresford et al., 2006); about 30,000 followed their normal diets and almost 20,000 were assigned to low-fat diets. After 9 years, the rate of colon cancer was almost identical in the low-fat and control-diet groups. These studies strongly suggest that the observational studies are not supported by dietary intervention studies at either the precancerous or malignant tumor stages of colon cancer.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7015455/

        OP didn't read the study
        he saw the "conclusion" and just assumed LOL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is just jargon for
        >this may be the case
        they don't reference anything lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >red meat
        >processed meat
        Are not the same

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neither are israelites and white people but you won't believe how fast the two terms get switched when it's useful for ~~*them*~~

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >colorectal cancer is a heart disease

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only bad thing it can give you is cancer, but it only happens if you cook it because crusts are carcinogenic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because morons like this will actually engage with other morons so they can argue about who is the bigger moron because they don't know how to not bump a thread and need to make a spectacle of their moronic opinions.

      https://i.imgur.com/NWWJxch.jpg

      https://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/
      >World Health Organization: "Red meat is linked to cancer." "An analysis of data from 10 studies estimated that every 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by about 18%."

      IST digging itself into an early grave lmao

      your op was about heart disease, and you post something from a non scientific institution about a possible link to cancer, and even in your greentext it starts with red meat then changes it to processed meat in the very next sentence.

      either way, have fun engaging with ketards and vegayns.

      Seacrest - OUT!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cooked crusts being toxic has been studied to death, sorry youre moronic

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no it doesnt. There is zero good evidence it has anything to do with heart disease

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good vegan alternative if you can't tolerate onions?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shallots

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    israeli lies. People have eaten beef for years, heart disease is a current era plague caused by seed oils.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you sure about that?
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5501035/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ~~*Rachel HAJAR*~~

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it over?

      It's over.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        egyptians ate no red meat. whatever causes heart disease its not red meat

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >egyptians ate no red meat
          The Pharaoh could eat whatever he desired. As could the upper class that were able to be mummified.

          The grain-eating peasants had relatively little heart disease. I wonder why 🙂

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stable isotope analyses have disproven this. they all ate more or less the same diet. and mummification was not limited to the wealthy elite. any other lies youd like to tell?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >stable isotope analyses have disproven this. they all ate more or less the same diet. and mummification was not limited to the wealthy elite
              That is fascinating.

              Do you have a source for your claims?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018296000673

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A rather surprising observation is the lack of differences between isotopic composition of remains of different social classes spanning from the very poor village of Gebelein to the middle class of the rich town of Asyut to the distinguished people who underwent mummification processes after their death

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a mixed diet including C3 plant food and, probably, animal resources (both fresh-water fish and C3 animals).

                the answer is clear: meat causes heart disease whether you're rich or poor

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                most of their protein was from plants. most of their meat was fish or chicken. fish causes heart disease?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >most of their protein was from plants
                good
                >most of their meat was fish or chicken
                that causes heart disease

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so red meat is off the hook? thanks

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fish or chicken.
                pufa strikes again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                red meat is off the hook then thanks

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they all ate more or less the same diet.
              WTF?

              I thought grains were peasant food?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they are

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *Gives you heart disease IF you have familial hypercholesterolimia*
    FTFY.

    Image source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7270479/

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tastes good
    >makes gays seethe
    thank you based steak

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think most people fail to realize just how abnormal red meat with all that fat is. That’s from a cow pumped with unnatural food and hormones. If red meat gives you heart disease, cancer, whatever, it’s probably more from eating a sick cow than the fact that it’s red meat.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather die with a steak in my colon than live eating FauxFu

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make sure to go on the Steak & Eggs diet if you want to max out your gainz. Keep in mind that the guy who tells you not to eat red meat or eggs is DYEL as frick.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >eating hearts is BAD for your heart!
    Some people are so fricking moronic that I can't believe they're not doing it purpose just so they can jack off to the idea of being seen as a moron later on.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *doesn't give you heart disease*

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >your experts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >carb eaters are all slim

      wtf I thought sugar makes you fat??

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just eat tree bark orthorexic xis, you'll start eating your own fat stores and die of malnutrition in no time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't a game you'll will, ketoschizo.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >outlasts Ray Peat
            xis...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >raw sausage

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What if certain worm populations literally make us live longer because their primary diet is something harmful to us or our intestines.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some ‘parasites’ (they really aren’t if we benefit) do improve our health and have been used in medical treatments.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well we've made symbiotic relationships with potentially hundreds of strains of bacteria and fungi that we'd literally die without so it's not surprising to think something more complex might have that relationship too.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              RP made it over the red line, why you slandering him?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Now post the keto gurus

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            carb gods only

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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