>gobbles your gains, kills your test, ruins your sleep and ruins your life
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i got the surgery and noticed differences instantly. get the surgery frens
how was the recovery?
It's the worst two weeks of your life, you basically are in fear of going to sleep thinking you will suffocate; if your mouth closes while you have those splints in your nose, you won't be able to breathe and will wake up in a panic.
Totally worth it afterwards though.
Also, not too much pain - I didn't even have to take Tylenol
I’m recovering from the surgery rn and I have gotten barely any sleep, I’ve woken up multiple times feeling brain dead from breathing weird. Also the pain really isn’t that bad, I’ve been off the painkillers for a bit. I hope it’s worth bros, my breathing has always been kinda shit.
Same here. Tomorrow actually marks exactly 1 year since my surgery. Best decision I've ever made.
The first week sucks. They'll put packing in your nose to hold it open and absorb the blood. Fortunately that only lasts a day before it's taken out. After that you'll have a nose full of dried blood for 4 days or so. You'll look like a zombie with swelling and bruises all over, but they'll probably give you a medicine that's supposed to reduce the swelling quicker. The cast and stitches stay on about a week. For me it wasn't a full nose cast, only s few strips of plastered gauze on the bridge of my nose.
Do you look different?
I got surgery last year and the surgeon fricked up I think and didn't even fix it. Like this shit is highkey worse than before, I think it might even be MORE deviated. Does insurance cover it if you get it for a second time?
I have been thinking about it very very much. might go and do it in January.
I'm scared of even going to check if it's deviated. They push something deep into your nose, do they not? I'm terrified of that shit.
they do, but they spray something in your nose first to numb it. I closed my eyes when they were doing the camera, and literally didn't feel a thing. They had to tell me when they were done, and to open my eyes.
If that's all that's stopping you, then that's literally nothing.
>better sleep
>breathe better
>no audible "breathing" noises
The best part about it honestly was just being able to breathe without sounding like I was 400lbs
about a weeks worth of bloody napkins in your nose but basically Gucci by the end of week 2. My sister had a rhinoplasty to fix her crooked nose as well and she had black eyes with an extra week recovery
I don't recall honestly my ENT saw/knew it was deviated just by looking/hearing me breathe
Same. Got the surgery and they also took out a bunch of scar tissue from breaking my nose a bunch. Fricking awesome. Get surgery if you have this and it’s bad.
my deviated septum is why i have a subhuman maxilla
How is a maxilla correlated to septum or mouthbreathing?
Tongue posture
Jesus, just buy a nasal dilator and save up for surgery.
This, cope, sneeze and dilate
He he he
I hate having this. I don’t Even care about breathing but my face is not as symmetrical. If I fix this will I stop being an Incel?
deviated septum has nothing to do with facial symmetry. You are fricked
IST always finding something to make me paranoid about lmao. I've broken my nose multiple times fighting but I definitely don't think I'm low test or missing out on gains or mouth breathing.
What is the reasoning behind it being a gains goblin?
I think it's gotta do with quality of sleep. If you got a deviated septum, chances are you have shit sleep due to the obstructed breathing. I got chronic sinusitis + deviated septum and I can't remember when I actually had a good night's rest no matter how many hours I sleep. No good sleep = no optimized gains
I think my sleep is good and girls haven't complained about me struggle snoring in my sleep or anything so I'm gonna throw this shit in the trash. Later gays
>girls haven't complained about me struggle snoring in my sleep or anything
Its hard to go through that when you dont get b***hes in the first place you mook
Just sleep on your side with an elevated pillow
As far as modern problems go, it seems like a deviated septum is one of the most correctable and therefore least serious you can have. It's like getting orthodontics for fricked up teeth, but way quicker and easier to resolve.
>What is the reasoning behind it being a gains goblin?
There is little correlation.
Your nasal passage is always pressurized and one nostril slightly closes and the other opens so that your nose doesn't dry out. People with deviation believe that when the one nostril closes, it stops their breathing as the deviation causes issues.
However no evidence of this exist.
More than likely these people have sinus cavity issues or sleep apnea and that's more likely to cause breathing problems.
>provides you with high-altitude training every time you're in the gym
thank you based septum
Every time I lay down to go to bed, one nostril is clogged. Even when I am standing, if I plug one nostril, the other will barely have any air come out of it. I sleep usually 12 hours a day and have been dealing with chronic fatigue and severe a disabling circadian rhythm sleep disorder. Family doctor told me its normal for one nostril to close when we sleep and that Im fine. Anyways, went to ENT, told me I have severe deviated septum, and to put salt water in my nose?? Thats it? Of course thats not going to fricking do anything, its a physical deformity. What would salt water do? 400lb woman at front desk wouldnt let me schedule another appointment until months passed of me using salt in nose because of doctors instructions. Now that I have to wait months, my insurance will run out. So moronic, I hate everything.
Oh yeah my T is also the level of a 70 year old man at 18. Fricked up sleep probably messed up my hormones badly.
Walt water clears out the sinuses
Important to flush thag shit out especially with a deviated septum cause the boogers will block it
It's not boogers that block it moron homosexual moron. It's inflammation.
Salt water doesnt do shit, olynth spray does.
You sound like a big old booger
Before thinking seriously about a septoplasty look up "empty nose syndrome" first.
Also noses natural swell and recede causing blockage to move from one nostril to the next throughout the day
>empty nose syndrome
fake news
Much relevant. I have a very badly deviated septum.
>can't breathe for shit
>sleep like shit
>snore like a beast
>clearly oxygen deprived
I finally have decent insurance and make good money so will be able to take care of it fairly soon. This has been a problem for about 25 years but I didn't realize just how bad it was.
My septum is deviated, but I never mouth breathed (except if I'm incredibly cardiovascularily stressed) and I have basically mewed throughout my entire life without even knowing what mewing means (having my jaw and tongue all tighlty packed always felt "right" for me).
How is this even relevant?
I struggle to breath through my nose when lying down and wake up in a puddle of drool.
>deviated septum
>nose gets broke
>girl packs my nose two tampons she had
>couple days go by
>pull the tampons out
>can breathe better than ever
>go by her place to thank her
>she tells me she is pregnant
>panic not sure how this could happen
>remember im married
>tell her im married
>she sits there shocked
>never wanted to be this kind of guy
>leave the room
>wife smacks me across the back of the head for making a joke.
>have to eat pussy to make it up to her
hard life
>deviated septum
>varicocele
Looks like I've got some surgeries in my future
literally same
I think I ought to consider it
>get surgery that blocks your nose and gives you pain for a month or so
>start breathing again
>suddenly you feel good again
>MUST BE THE SURGERY
what do you mean by this?
They only felt like the surgery "fixed" them because it created that contrast of having an awful experience followed by relief of breathing again
one nose hole is always blocked for me but switches so I don't think it's a deviated septum
I got this surgery in April along with the removal of a nasal polyp from my right nostril. It was really nice at first, but I think they may have botched the surgery a little because now it's more difficult to breathe out of my left nostril. I'm kinda pissed at myself because I got a bolbus crooked ass nose and could have gotten rhinoplasty at the same time. I still had to end up paying around $2300 out of pocket. Going to try seeing about rhinoplasty because my nose has really started to bother me recently.
I got the surgery and its helped me with my morning allergies. I used to get a stuffy nose and sneeze all the time in the mornings. Now I wake up with no issues. Got an old experienced surgeon to correct mine. Recovery was still a pain and you'll be spitting blood clots from your nose for a week but after that its great.
I love having a deviated septum, enlarge turbinates, and a dust mite allergy. I couldn't imagine life with out a deviated septum, enlarged turbinates, and dust mite allergies.
had to do 5 surgeries on my nose,
If you live in canada just go to america to get this done, Canadian doctors are meant to work on subhuman indian cattle not normal people, they have the latest 1980's era technology, training and knowhow and will frick you up while making you wait 9 months and will have their offices be completely un-callable
tell your doctor to not do a 'turbinate outfracture' it's bullshit, and only go to doctors using microdebreeder, that's the best method that I know of
>9 months
maybe when you were young you old frick. Its taking me 6 months just to get an appointment to see an ENT after a referral
>tfw have this and myopia
how much does it cost to fix this shit?
6k average
I dont even know WTF that is.
Anyway, Im outta here.
How bad am i fricked frens?
>How bad am i fricked frens?
It is over.
sometimes its one nostril that is clogged and sometimes its the other, can it still be a deviated septum?
Whatever the frick you do, DO NOT let them frick with your turbinates. You think your shit is bad now? Go ahead and agree to let them destroy the inner structure of your nose, filled with nerves and blood vessels, surely none of that shit is important, right?You know the burning sensation you get when you get water up your nose? Well how about feeling that sensation permanently for every waking moment of the rest of your life? People have fricking killed themselves to escape this shit. Burning pain inside your face, permanently, that you cannot soothe or distract yourself from because it is INSIDE YOUR FRICKING FACE. Frick the doctor, dont agree to their bullshit, fix your septum and maybe suture your valves more open but DO NOT let them frick with your turbinates.
>t. someone with a turbinate reduction
ive heard of empty nose syndrome but not this. Did he use a nail filer to do it what the frick happened
Its basically empty nose syndrome. Idk what the frick he used tbh, although id imagine it was a type of rotary deriding tool that is extremely common for surgeries where tissue removal is required, basically laps layer by layer away with suction to remove the tissue and blood as you go, standard laparoscopic shit. Either way, its nerve damage basically. Its not fully understood, maybe its like “phantom limb” pain, maybe nerves healed and got crossed, idk. What I do know is that for the last 8 years I have had a burning sensation inside my face every single day and Ill have to live with it for the rest of my life.
Most days its tolerable, I guess you just learn to tune it out, idk. Like a 2-3/10 in pain. Some nights its a solid 6 or 7, tonight just because im talking about it, its firing up pretty fricking bad. Once in a blue moon itll crank up to 10/10 ‘just snorted a line of hot seltzer water into my nose as violently as possible’ pain, I will usually just end up pacing back and forth in my kitchen helplessly like a caged animal at the zoo or some shit, when its bad its really fricking bad especially knowing its never going to fully go away. Idk, lots of people have successful experiences with turbinate reduction, but there are some who dont, and I am one of them, and I can promise you it is not worth risking becoming one of them. I cant imagine a worse possible place to have permanent burning pain than inside your face.
well shit man sorry to hear that.
Personally I got a turbinate reduction and it was a huge success, I went from having constant blocked noses and repeatedly waking up every 2-3 hours to piss to sleeping 6-8 hours straight. Pain-wise I took a single panadol the night and morning after surgery then didn't need anything beyond that.
have they re enlaged. Going to get one but plebbitors have complained they grow big again
I got the surgery a few years ago.
It got to the point where I couldn't breathe out of my left nostril at all, so it was worth it. But it hasn't been perfect for me. I have to blow my nose like a dozen times a day now, which is pretty annoying (I used to never have to blow my nose). For whatever reason the surgery cleared my airway, but made my body produce a little globs of mucus every 30 minutes that block me up anyway.
I have this and will look to fix it asap. I can't breathe for shit and my cardio is non-existent because of it
Anyone here use the neti pot? Does it work?
>give yourself PAM
No thanks.
You have to use sterile water, imbecile.
It’s still only something a woman or 3rd worlder would do so no thanks
Please anon, I insist. You can't do this to me!