it just occurred to me that lifting is cope for not getting girls
>be me
>slightly better than average physique
>been able to hook up and date although i wouldn’t say its without effort
>all of them have been via dating apps
>i have never talked to girls casually outside on the streets
>i have little social skills and i haven’t made much efforts to improve them, probably been running away from the issue subconsciously
i sincerely believe that these are what’s most important when it comes to getting a girl
1.face
2.social skills
3.body
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As a counterpoint for all these bait threads. I’ve come to the conclusion that lifting DOES get you girls
>have long time girlfriend
>get really into bodybuilding. No idea why really but it just makes everything else better
>do inevitable cycle
>women looking and smiling at me all the time, wtf? Going out of their way to talk to me, ask to hang out
>girlfriend touching my abs during sex
I did fine before but in my experience a great physique will definitely improve your appeal to women despite all the coping to the contrary
>roidtroony
opinion rejected
Banging gutter pussy does not count
to add on, being on this board has made me obsess over a shit ton of things outside my control like my wrist size, clavicle width etc
at this rate i’m going to turn into one of those guys girls are disgusted by, gym bros with no personality
Stop talking about "women" like they're all one hive mind moron. Every single one is different and into different shit. Will lifting alone get you laid? Of course not. Will lifting make you healthier and more attractive than if you werent lifting? Yes. Sounds to me like you're just a lazy piece of shit and are looking for an out. Go frick yourself. Also if you started lifting just to get girls you're a next level moron and should have a nice day.
>to add on, being on this board has made me obsess over a shit ton of things outside my control like my wrist size, clavicle width etc
How old are you? Falling for the skinny wrists meme and shit is the peak of idiocy. Did you also try to eat Tide pods back in the day?
Some people want to be in a relationship so bad they'll settle for the absolute bottom of the barrel. I see it all the time. It's basically codependency. Most of the time they've never been single for more than a few months in their entire life.
good post. i’m really glad there are still some people with a sense for reality on this board.
>to add on, being on this board has made me obsess over a shit ton of things outside my control like my wrist size, clavicle width etc
>at this rate i’m going to turn into one of those guys girls are disgusted by, gym bros with no personality
You just know this is the guy who unironically went on "icing balls generals" threads on IST and applied them himself
Only thing that matters is social skills, even my fat ugly cousin can get laid and he doesn't take care of himself at all, I don't understand how women even tolerate him, he's low iq and his apartment smells like cat piss
Maybe he has adhd....that ends up attracting adhd girls and mentally ill girls
I mean all he probably attracts are fat tinder chicks but even they should have some standards
Why not hop on HRT if you're that willing to give up? You don't even have to be a troon to want to make your body pretty.
why don't you ask one of your parents to set you up with one of your cousins? doesn't have to be first cousin, could be like 3rd or 4th
social skills are a myth
did you finish first grade? then you have enough social skills
go kys
yeah moron if u had paid attention anons already probably told u lifting for girls ultimately will lead to this. all those stories heard of a loser anon, who works out and magically becomes a chad only mentions the physical work.
this is supposed to be ur epiphany moment to workout for urself
ur stupid ass better KEEP going and maintain that slightly better than average physique.
because u can wallow about the meaninglessness of it all, and become a fat lonely fricker with no social skills, which is going to make life very hard, or u can maintain a physically capable body, while trying to work on your wallowing, which will be hard, but being a fat frick failure is significantly harder.
to give up on fitness because you thought it would fix ur lack of social skills would make u a moron. social skills is a whole other ball field, and being fit just enables you to play in that field easier than others.
if u become a fat frick, u better be a charismatic fat frick (which u arent) because the little socialization/sex/connection you have had up til now will be very hard when u don't know how to talk to people AND ur fat.
u can get better at socializing moron. there's really no difference between you and i. just the perspective. literally google 'how to socialize', and take babysteps
No gym can fix your face
Becoming IST is a multiplier, which means if you get zero pussy prior to getting IST you'll more than likely still get zero pussy even after becoming jacked. But if you get pussy before getting IST you will most definitely get even more pussy after becoming IST.
And the vast majority of IST posters fall into the first category, hence all the endless kissless virgin threads on here. That's just how it is.
that is true. I just swimming once in a while and some light yoga and shit. I am skinnyfat according to IST standards, but somewhat fit according to normie standards. Also a manlet but i have attractive face and i can talk to people and strangers and make jokes if i am in the mood. And that is all you need to have, somewhat nice face, a little to no above average body which is really easy to maintain and most important of all that can be changed is your personality. So, go outside and make some friends. And yeah, to add, what helped me meet girls when i am somewhere out in a club is knowing how to dance, but mostly is being relaxed enough to dance like nobody is watching. That got me tons of girls. Learn to dance rather than build muscles.