Buddy that gyno is just the tip of the iceberg. You really should have done some research before doing a tren cycle (for 4 weeks lmfao) as your first cycle without any AI, SERMs, Caber, etc.
yeah I had a feeling that I am going to be fricked for a while. I saw that pete rubbish went off gear and has regained his natural test levels so I am optimistic.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you took a 19nor, your natural testosterone isn't going to recover for at least 3 more months
4 months ago
Anonymous
After tren, you'll be shut down for at least a year. You're supposed to cruise on a trt dose for at least that time after tren. You really messed up. Order more test and hcg right now. Dumbass lol
I just ordered raloxifene and it probably will not get here for at least 3 weeks. Would running anavar and a low dose of test e in the meantime be smart or would that only frick my body up further?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe just running test till then. You're already suppressed so going cold turkey might just do further damage. Continue to inject till you get your pct then hop on that. With any luck, lower dose test won't aromatise and leave you with big supple honkers. Maybe stay away from tren though
4 months ago
Anonymous
thanks dude this info has helped
You did no research and injected a drug only approved for beef cattle. Shut up about 'health'
health
You need to take a big step back and realise that these are great numbers, I would have let your nips alone in that case but hey here we are
its all good dude, I went full moron kek. Im going to implement what was recommended and get hormone test ordered.
thank you Black folk! wagtmi
4 months ago
Anonymous
how much weekly test and tren tho? cruising test for months after tren is mandatory
4 months ago
Anonymous
After tren, you'll be shut down for at least a year. You're supposed to cruise on a trt dose for at least that time after tren. You really messed up. Order more test and hcg right now. Dumbass lol
I hit a wall for the past 2 years. Before I ran gear I had a 480 squat, 605 deadlift and a 385 bench. I let it get to my head. Being healthy is more important
You fricking idiot. If you're going to do steroids & then stop doing steroids, then you should probably have done a 16 week cycle. You'd probably frick up your hormones like 50% worse than a 4 week cycle but made easily 4X the gains. If you're gonna frick up your natural test then at least frick it up for something
he did a 4 week tren cycle lmfao. i bet he even used tren-e, so he didn't hit peak saturation until the last week.
and now he's trying to cold turkey it, after taking tren.
I hope op can sort that issue out but most growth on roids is not sustainable unless you cycle year round on test. The more mass you gain the more you lose post cycle.
Pct only helps you restore natural levels. Leanness has nothing to do with it unless you previously cut to sub 10% auschwitz levels where your natty test would crash anyway. Agreed about the natty limit though op looks will within natty limit. Gyno like that might need surgical intervention.
Is that why juicers stay so lean? To try and minimize estrogen?
I didnt fit in my middle school picture because I was a shit brick house and I grew up 20+lbs "overweight." The myth of poor hormone production at 20% bf is weird.
Anyways, get huge and use estrogen blockers or just stop using and get huge. Not having significant chest mass is what makes it look like that.
>body dysmorphia >spends hours anxiously looking at other mens bodies online >spends all day in the gym with the homosexual scene, has to force himself not to stare >finally breaks after being mogged for months >takes drugs to change his body with no regard for his health >permanent testicular damage and atrophy >permanently lowered testosterone level >grows breasts >gains will go away immediately when training is stopped
ahahaha you are literally exactly the same as /lgbt/ troony degenerates
bro yyou are literally a fricking troony
LMAOOO
>have very good natty numbers >think that you need more >>a quick four weeks of tren and test should do the trick >almost tank your endocrine system permanently >a fricking anime website gives enough advice that you might recover
tale as old as time
First thing you need to do is cut out carbs. Less than 10g a day. Preferably 0 starting out. Then, and this is the key where everyone fricks up, you need to MASSIVELY increase your fat intake. High protein is not what you want. There are numerous studies showing how ketosis reduces gyno. No I won’t be citing them.
Nolvadex /thread
You didn't buy any AI or SERMs to prevent that?
Raloxifene works way better than Nolvadex
thanks
no I was moronic thinking a 4 week cycle wouldnt frick my chest up soo bad. Thanks for the recommended.
kys
>4 week cycle wouldnt frick my chest up soo bad
what the hell did you do for 4 weeks that caused you to get gyno
i let my troony gf start cumming in my ass once i found out she was clean. im guessing i absorbed the extra t?
I ran tren, test e and anivar
>tren
lmao
Buddy that gyno is just the tip of the iceberg. You really should have done some research before doing a tren cycle (for 4 weeks lmfao) as your first cycle without any AI, SERMs, Caber, etc.
yeah I had a feeling that I am going to be fricked for a while. I saw that pete rubbish went off gear and has regained his natural test levels so I am optimistic.
you took a 19nor, your natural testosterone isn't going to recover for at least 3 more months
I just ordered raloxifene and it probably will not get here for at least 3 weeks. Would running anavar and a low dose of test e in the meantime be smart or would that only frick my body up further?
Maybe just running test till then. You're already suppressed so going cold turkey might just do further damage. Continue to inject till you get your pct then hop on that. With any luck, lower dose test won't aromatise and leave you with big supple honkers. Maybe stay away from tren though
thanks dude this info has helped
health
its all good dude, I went full moron kek. Im going to implement what was recommended and get hormone test ordered.
thank you Black folk! wagtmi
how much weekly test and tren tho? cruising test for months after tren is mandatory
After tren, you'll be shut down for at least a year. You're supposed to cruise on a trt dose for at least that time after tren. You really messed up. Order more test and hcg right now. Dumbass lol
Why bro, lucky for you you're not lactating(yet)
HAHAHAHAHA there's no way
>anivar
Anavar as a guy? But why?
>kys
i'm not the one with sensitive nippies due to hopping on gear like an impulsive toddler who can't wait to see results
I hit a wall for the past 2 years. Before I ran gear I had a 480 squat, 605 deadlift and a 385 bench. I let it get to my head. Being healthy is more important
You did no research and injected a drug only approved for beef cattle. Shut up about 'health'
>injected a drug only approved for beef cattle
Not an argument.
Brb getting vaxxed again trust the science
You need to take a big step back and realise that these are great numbers, I would have let your nips alone in that case but hey here we are
You fricking idiot. If you're going to do steroids & then stop doing steroids, then you should probably have done a 16 week cycle. You'd probably frick up your hormones like 50% worse than a 4 week cycle but made easily 4X the gains. If you're gonna frick up your natural test then at least frick it up for something
he did a 4 week tren cycle lmfao. i bet he even used tren-e, so he didn't hit peak saturation until the last week.
and now he's trying to cold turkey it, after taking tren.
you'll have to stop me from rubbing them constantly >:)
Time to transition
Imagine being this jealous he grew in a month what you grew in three
so sad
I hope op can sort that issue out but most growth on roids is not sustainable unless you cycle year round on test. The more mass you gain the more you lose post cycle.
>The more mass you gain the more you lose post cycle.
*if you are above natural limit
**if you are lean
***if you don't PCT properly
Pct only helps you restore natural levels. Leanness has nothing to do with it unless you previously cut to sub 10% auschwitz levels where your natty test would crash anyway. Agreed about the natty limit though op looks will within natty limit. Gyno like that might need surgical intervention.
I'd rather waste 2 extra months than be a literal troony. OP started transitioning lmao.
Just because you write the word imagine before a bunch of bullshit projection, that does not magically make it true FYI
This is a blue board op
troony homosexual lmao
hope you need surgery
L I T E R A L
R O I D
T R A N N Y
Roiding for that?!
See
you needed roids to look like that?
This. I've seen roiders at my gym and they look big and ripped, what gives?
He barely got the effects of the juice on a 4 week cycle lol
kys ngmi
MILKY MILKY WARM AND SILKY
kek, you roided for this? jeesus
even if it's a troll pic
Just cut them off. Men don't need nipples and they look stupid anyway. If anyone asks say you had a skin disease.
nice bait bro
Is that why juicers stay so lean? To try and minimize estrogen?
I didnt fit in my middle school picture because I was a shit brick house and I grew up 20+lbs "overweight." The myth of poor hormone production at 20% bf is weird.
Anyways, get huge and use estrogen blockers or just stop using and get huge. Not having significant chest mass is what makes it look like that.
But yeah fill out and hit chest 3x or 4x a week and keep your rows shrugs rear delts etc in line with the front.
>bearded nu-male fell for the "just one cycle" meme
>how to fix
there's no way back now, you shall remain busty
You don't even look like you roid other than the stomach bloat and the gyno.
>body dysmorphia
>spends hours anxiously looking at other mens bodies online
>spends all day in the gym with the homosexual scene, has to force himself not to stare
>finally breaks after being mogged for months
>takes drugs to change his body with no regard for his health
>permanent testicular damage and atrophy
>permanently lowered testosterone level
>grows breasts
>gains will go away immediately when training is stopped
ahahaha you are literally exactly the same as /lgbt/ troony degenerates
bro yyou are literally a fricking troony
LMAOOO
>have very good natty numbers
>think that you need more
>>a quick four weeks of tren and test should do the trick
>almost tank your endocrine system permanently
>a fricking anime website gives enough advice that you might recover
tale as old as time
Raloxifine
60mg or so a day until you're good.
>very slight gyno, 1/4 of this, but not roiding
how2cope?
suckable breedable rapeable breedable rapeable submissive gf........
I'll suck em away champ
First thing you need to do is cut out carbs. Less than 10g a day. Preferably 0 starting out. Then, and this is the key where everyone fricks up, you need to MASSIVELY increase your fat intake. High protein is not what you want. There are numerous studies showing how ketosis reduces gyno. No I won’t be citing them.
Incorporate it into your bedroom play