Thanks, homosexuals. No, really. With all that talk about 'norwooding', you made me aware of what is happening to my hairline.
I unironically wasn't even aware that is was going on. Now, I can never view the world the same. I am deep down in Norwood stage 3.
But unironically thanks. Now, I am aware that something is going on that I have to stop, or at least slow down.
I identified myself as Norwood stage 3 (pic related, but not mine). The hairline at my temples is about two inches higher than in the middle, forming a very visible M-shape. The hair on my front is much thinner than on my back and sides.
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So, bros, what can we do for our hair ISTness? I recently found a pic of myself that is five years old, and the hairline looks basically the same. Is this a good sign?
So far I only started washing my hair with Alpecin (not sure if it does anything though). Is Finasteride our best bet, and how can I convince my skin doctor to prescribe it? How expensive will it be? Should I consider a hair implant, and how expensive will it be at this stage?
And also, you aware that lifting etc. *does* increase DHT, right? Because lifting > more test > test gets converted into DHT
Is there also any effective way of lowering DHT with diet, or other habits?
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Post hairline, we will see what we can do for you, friend!
Why do people on this board think losing hair is terrible ?
Shit happen to nearly everyone.
So does getting fat. Does it mean we should accept it? We’re one of the first generations in history to have a choice in going bal
Gettin fat is like a life choice, you choose to eat more.
Losing hair is fricking natural you should just accept it instead of taking shit to maintain appareances.
You fool no one everyone knows you looose your hairs.
You mean the movie featuring this recedding hairline motherfricker ?
Cuz you are an Hollywood actor ? In the real world no one would care, especially if you do it for women.
Jude Law is another exception but even then he's not really appearing in much lately.
Are you joking ? He was in that harry potter movie last year and in like 2 different marvel/disney
You compare shit that's not comparable it's totally studpid how cooking is similar to something that happen naturally to your body ?
Every main lose hair during his lis or at least they get thinner it's just normal.
You guys need to start being more cofident about stuff like this instead of recommending taking product.
He meant relevant movie. You said natural. That is stupid. Don't hurrdurr natural then say that's not the same. I bet you take supplements and other things that are "unnatural".
Vin Diesel. Bruce Willis. Patrick Steward. Samuel L Jackson…
Point?
Vin can grow hair, he chooses not to to get roles. The rest of them are way too old from when balding was not able to be conquered, so yeah if you were a movie star in the 90s yeah you can be bald. Make Ashton Kutcher or Leoardo decaprio from the late 90s bald and see where great things await them.
It's sad that when discussing examples of bald men It's like the same 5 guys each time
Now do the list of celebrities with hair that look good
>losing hair is natural
Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's good. Your food is naturally uncooked. You use an unnatural phone. Nothing about you is natural.
>Posts the guy that is constantly being shat on because of his hairline
Kek. I see that the new baldcel cope is that "this happens to everyone!!" Bullshit, only around 40% of males are bald and in some countries it's way less than that.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/percentage-of-bald-males-by-country
It's insane how much society beats down men for a couple of receded inches they have no control over.
>im psoooooooping on a fitness board, what does hair have to do with lifting, nothing aha but like guys please buy
That b***h is delusional if she's trying to convince herself she wouldn't suck Cavill's dick if he were shirtless right in front of her.
probably the attention we pay to women makes them more selective and in turn it is more difficult to meet their standards creating a vicious cycle of attention and service. The best we men can do is not give a shit about these things.
Because in a GATTACA type future balding is one of the first things being erased. Balding is bad. Personally I think balds shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Wish granted
How many A listers would have a career if they lost their hair? The Rock and Jason Stabthem are exceptions.
Going down the celebrity hair transplant rabbit hole is fricking insane. 99% of people had no idea that like half of the men in Hollywood got hair transplants, and the same for many of the most famous athletes in the world.
Like who the frick knew George Clooney got his first hair transplant in the late 90s?
>dude just shave your head and you’ll have a .0001% chance to look like one of these 7 middle aged men!
It happens to everyone in their 50s and 60s, in your 20s is fricked beyond belief
90% of men who experience balding do so well before 40 lmao.
"This terrible thing keeps happening to everyone so you have to just accept it instead of easily stopping it"
Yeah, most people don't want to be UGLY, and will exert the effort equivalent to taking a multivitamin once a day to prevent becoming UGLY. Very few people look okay bald, and nobody looks BETTER bald. A good hair style is the easiest way to boost your attractiveness a solid one or two points alone, and looking good is a simple way to make your life a little better both socially and economically, so why the FRICK wouldn't you try to keep YOUR OWN HAIR? Has life really beaten you this deep into stockholm syndrome, that you would oppose keeping your own fricking hair???
Oy wey goyim just take this pill EVERY day! Nothing wrong with changing your hormones goyim trust meeee
>le funny original israelite impression
I accept your concession uggo
Enjoy your erectile disfunction troony
Just had sex with my girlfriend two days ago, cope harder ugly not-funny-guy.
its shills here to psyop you into buying their product for the rest of your life. just report
Imagine being so low-iq you think there is a concerted “shill psyop” to get people to buy a dirt cheap generic drug. This place has mind-broken you.
>inb4 kafkatrap response
>imagine thinking more than 8 billion profit industry is nothing shills would get payed over
LOL!
>b-but I didn't personally pay 8 billion
YEAH NO SHIT moron, IF A MILLION PEOPLE GIVE YOU A DOLLAR DID YOU GET ONLY 1 DOLLAR?!
i don't think it's about making money but instead getting men to castrate themselves
but i thought bald men shouldnt reproduce anyways?
Dudes on here unironically think a slight loss of hairline will doom them to inceldom forever.
Meanwhile IRL I see late 20's / early 30's dudes with norwood 2s and 3s with cute girls.
Because balding is ugly and being bald before you’re 40’s makes you look 10 years older
Girls under 30 don’t want some bald ugly guy they want a tall cute guy with hair
>Why is losing something that makes you look healthy, youthful, and attractive, and thus results in people treating you differently and making it harder to get a date terrible?
Gee man... that's a tough one
I hit NW3 by 18 literal incel
They don't have the face or head for it. Guys such as The Rock, Martyn Ford, Jason Statham, and Johnny Sins do.
>hairline looks the same as a kid
You are probably not balding and just have a big forehead. Have you noticed any loss of density up top? Nothing you do natty will really increase or lower your DHT levels to affect balding if you dont have a fricked up unhealthy lifestyle. If youre that concerned you can take finasteride or minoxidil and that will be your best bet for most people
'kid'
for reference am 25 now, pic is @ 20
It's simple: our lifestyle = high test = more DHT = more norwooding
What can we do bros? I don't have the face to be a baldlet
I hate being white so fricking much
Is there such a thing as a cutoff age where, if you haven't started losing hair at that point, you're probably gonna be fine for the rest of your life?
Nah my dad started balding in his mid 50s probably was thinning thru his 40s but it became real noticeable recently.
Just take fin or dutasteride those are the only real balding "cures" we have until the chinks invent a therapy to turn off the balding gene
Not ideal but hopefully if it happened to me at 50 I'd already have a wife and kids so wouldn't care as much. Still would though.
I started balding at fricking 29 right after my prostitute ex left me, never even lost a single hair before
You’re never safe, the Norwood reaper comes for everyone
I started at 17. ha ha.
this is why you shave your head in a relationship to g check your woman
Generally, if you can make it to 35 without balding, you're overwhelmingly likely to keep your hair. Or, at the very least- only start to lose it once you're a decrepid old man. Most people with the balding gene lose their hair in their 20s to early 30s. I can't recall the last time I ever heard someone having a lush head of hair in their mid 30s and they magically started balding at 40 lol
Also, a few myths about balding: You inherit the baldness gene from BOTH parents. None of this bullshit about your mommy's homosexual daddy was bald, therefore you're doomed to baldness. That's a huge misconception. Also, baldness does NOT "skip" generations. If your dad's dad wasn't bald, and your dad isn't bald, it's not likely that you'll randomly go bald because the bald gene decided to frick you over in particular and "skip"
This 100%. Read so much nonsense about hair genetics exclusively coming from the mom's side.
My brother and I have different hair completely. He has thick hair from my mom's side. I have thin hair ala my dad.
I started to notice recession when I was 23-24. My younger brother still has a full head of hair at 28.
The only way to be totally safe is if your dad has a full head of hair and your mom's dad does too. Otherwise it's a bit of a guessing game.
I'm the first one in my family that's going bald :-]
Maybe my dad has a hair system and is gaslighting me
Give fin and minoxidil a year to see what they can do. If you don’t like the improvement, then consider a H/T.
I essentially got a year’s supply for fin for about $30, but those were cheap Polish prices. I was closer to Norwood V or VI, so the doctor said I would probably need 4,500 grafts, but he only did 3,000 as that is about the upper limit for one day. Even with the 3K, after a year it looks so much better.
I'm the annoying anon whose dick (and balls) got completely destroyed by Finasteride. And while most men on Finasteride don't experience erectile dysfunction, just be aware that there's a chance that you could seriously frick up your genitalia. And nobody seems to know why other people's dicks get destroyed by Finasteride while others don't. But it seems to be more common in men with a history of mental illnesses like depression and anxiety, and, counterintuitively, severe side effects are more common with low dose (1-ish mg) than high dose for whatever reason. And so be extra careful about your decision to take Finasteride if you have a history of psychological issues.
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As someone who's also Norwood 3, I personally recommend topical Minoxidil, derma rollers, red light therapy, and Ketoconazole shampoo. If topical Minoxidil is too annoying for you to use, then I recommend low-dose oral Minoxidil. Just be aware that oral Minoxidil can cause scary heart issues and leg swelling in a minority of users. If none of that works, then I recommend getting an FUE hair transplant from a highly reputable clinic. I got an FUT transplant, 2,650 grafts to be exact, and it was way more annoying than getting an FUE transplant due to the huge incision on the back of your scalp. It also ended up costing me about $12,000 because I had it done in America. And that's on the moderate to lower end. Most of the clinics I did consultations with gave me estimates between $15,000 to $20,000. You can definitely get it done for much cheaper if you go to Turkey or India, but I personally didn't feel comfortable doing that. You also have to keep in mind that needing to get a 2nd procedure down the road is not uncommon, especially if you don't use Finasteride. Also, I recommend trying to find a talented hair surgeon that's near you because it makes the logistics much easier. But if you can't, then I recommend booking a hotel for at least 4 days following your procedure because you have to spray your head every 30 minutes to an hour. And doing that while on a plane is embarrassing. I also don't recommend driving yourself if it's more than like 3 hours away. I made the mistake of driving myself home for 7 hours the day after my procedure, and I legit started to hallucinate because I could barely sleep for days and was pumped full of pain killers. I also nearly passed out several times and almost crashed.
nice pasta bro you post it in every thread and have never posted hairline
>Minoxidil
You guys recommend the topical or oral?
2% or 5%?
Can you even get the topical in 5%?
Topical is safer but much more annoying to use. The oral one has scary side effects like heart issues and leg swelling, but they're supposedly rare.
Fricking hell. Thanks for the warning, anon.
I don't want to frick up my precious HWD.
Am absolutely mental, on different meds, and therefore might avoid Fin.
How does this even happen to you? I've been on 3mg a day for over a year and it has done nothing for me, hair still falling out and not a single side effect, I'd take side effects if I got some hair results and I'm not even high T, no idea why I'm immune to this drug
I have no idea. I've been to several different urologists looking for answers, including at Johns Hopkins and George Washington University, and none of them had a solution. Only one of them had ever even heard of someone suffering from sexual side effects lasting more than 4 weeks. They just gave me prescriptions for Viagra and Cialis and sent me on my way. And so I had to do research online myself, and that's when I learned that it's called Post Finasteride Syndrome.
Here's the most detailed medical paper that I've found.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235228951930061X
But it doesn't offer any solutions either, besides neuroactive steroids possibly helping - which I'm not willing to try because they sound dangerous as frick.
And as to why Finasteride harms people like me but not you; who knows? You see that a lot with all sorts of meds and foods. I can eat peanuts all day without issue, whereas somebody else will die from eating a single peanut. Likewise, some people can take the Covid vaccines without issue, while in other people it makes their flesh rot off. The human body is insanely complex and diverse and reacts to things in wildly different ways.
Are you using any other hormonal drug/steroid/sarm? How long did you used finasteride
I am using finasteride for 15 days and my libido still high as usual, but I still fear any side effect. I was reading about fin side effects and the pos fin syndrom literally just crippled ne, I don't care much about losing libido, but the suicidal mood, memory loss and penis shrinking just scared me.
I was thinking about switching from finasteride to saw palmetto.
The reason its such a problem is because in modern society men are not getting established until their late 20s/early 30s, by then they have hit the wall in more ways than one and reproduction potential is severely diminished. Its a cruel joke that by the tim theyve achieved money and stability, biology onliterates their looks. Men should be cumming in woman's veganas early 20s latest. Modern life is an amusement park of psychological torture and humiliation.
This. By your early 30s when your hair starts falling out, you should already have grandchildren. Then nature makes you look like a grandpa which is fine
There have been other periods in history where this was the case. During certain phases of both the Roman and Medieval periods, it was common for men to marry later. The big difference with modern life is that establishing yourself doesn't do much for you because women can now easily support themselves, and they have no interest in settling for an unattractive provider when they don't particularly need to be provided for. Both older men and older women are finding out that they have nothing to offer that the opposite sex needs or wants.
Been on fin about a month and noticed no sides and my minoxidil is arriving tomorrow
I'm gonna save my hair bros, won't let this ruin my self esteem a minute longer
>using celebrities as a reason to take troonypills
They also frick kids, so, why should I want to be like them?
>keeping your own hair is somehow equivalent to autogynephilia
>having a bald head like an actual baby as an adult man is good
All of that DHT and you still can't think your way out of a wet paper bag.
So you don't want to have hair and only want to sleep with grannies
Cumskins are absolutely pathetic. No wonder the majority quickly turning into the minority. Remember when y'all were going on about 'muh genetics' AHAHAHAHA.
Bro
Only reason why I believe these things are real is because Lebron got one because there are photos of him clearly balding more so than in this image.
The list of athletes and celebs who got a transplant done is fricking endless. Even Conor McGregor got it done back in 2021
Wouldn’t finasteride effect an athlete’s T levels?
it does but its an allowed medicine in most sports organisations now, iirc a couple of athletes in the early 2000's got banned for using it though
Yes, thats why they always get it done after they retire from sports or have already fallen from the top and just stick around for easy paychecks like McGregor
They all have white genetics
All African Americans do. That's why they score higher on IQ tests.
lol mayweather literally had to transplant an entire head of hair
personally I am grapefruit juice maxxxing to unlock the true potential of my min/fin regimen
I feel for u brother u will either make peace with it or take pill and get surgery, it's u choice
Could try minoxidil 5% and add some fina powder in it.
oral fina made sleeping very hard and felt like shit every morning when i was on it.
Just go to your dermatologist and get topical finasteride. Really that simple.
Will killing my DHT with finasteride affect my beard/body hair in any way?
As long as you don't have gynaecomastia that's all that matters
alpecin does nothing
minoxidil does nothing
finasteride is a troony drug
accept the buzzcut or die, I got a professional hair cutter and put it to 1,5 mm every two weeks
made me uglier (people used to compliment my hair all the time), don't care, people treat me the same and didn't actually noticed a difference
moron take. Fin and min are not in the same ballpark as alpecin lol
I can get all sciency with you anon
minoxidil leads to hypertrichosis, if taken topical or orally, on any part of the body EXCEPT the scalp. Use it to make you eyebrows or bear grow. It's game over once the genetic bomb explodes once a scalp hair gets in contact with androgens
finasteride does not lead to hair regrowth, and delays the fall of other hair by an average of 10 years, so it still catches up. So if the norwood reaper already came to you, it won't fix it
if you want regrowth, become a troony and take spironolactone 400 mg each day, but you will enjoy the gynecomastia and smoother skin I guess, also you will piss a lot
don't even reply to me, you are a moron that hasn't read one pubmed article, you aren't a medical professional like me, all you can do is repeat the same dogshit hairloss memes and other voodoo magic that is popular for most idiot weak men blaming their failure on their looks
didn't read but idk it worked for me
What type of medicine do you practise?
I can very well say the finasteride cult works swiftly and the brainworms they inflict on men are the non-troony version of body dysmorphia.
It's not an exaggeration that i was starting to hyperfocus on hairlines of people my age (~30yo) and feeling tinges of jealosy for women with perfect hairlines.
I was also on the verge of not being able to enjoy anime anymore cus anime girls have all this luscious thick perfect hair and perfect hairlines too.
If you think you're balding and thinning, yes, your hair is fricking going. If your hair is falling out at smaller and smaller lengths, yes, you're fricking balding.
I was fence sitting for 8 months about my diffuse thinning on one side of my hairline actually being hair loss or just stress, the shrinking hairs was what got me to fold and buy the fricking fin, if you're on the fence or can't remember how thick your hair used to be, they won't hurt if you're magically immune to DHT already, maturing hair lines are a fricking myth.
You can split them into 0.25mg quarters if you're afraid of sides, they'll be 90% as effective, you don't wanna regretting not taking them when your fricking forehead is too far gone.
>You can split them into 0.25mg quarters if you're afraid of sides
But some anon above said the side effects are worse if you take smaller dosages? Which is it?
Bs. It alters your hormonal profile so the more you take, the more it’s altered, the less DHT you have and the more sides you (possibly) get.
You can even start with 1mg/week. No need to take it every day unless you are NW100
I’m female with pretty much 70% of the hair on my crown missing due to… testosterone? I guess? I don’t go to the doctor and I probably will never even if it goes completely bald. Just throw a fricking hat on and get over it. At least if you’re male you can lean into being bald. I have to spend thousands of dollars on a wig just to pretend I have healthy hair. It’s fricking maddening tbh.
Just shaved my head to treat my seborhattic dermatitis. I do not have MPB, but the sores on my head have made my life a living hell.
I work from home so social contact is minimal. Hoping this clears up within a month of lathering creams and shit on my bald head.
you could have just used nizoral and not resort to this dramatic shit
Been using Nizoral for months with no improvement.
No I don’t do that. I don’t think this looks good. I’m doing it to fix my health. I’ll have a full head of hair in about a month.
>these are the people who tell you to "just shave it bro"
I've suffered from a similar scalp condition for about 20 years. I would get these super persistent and painful bumps on the back of my scalp that would bleed on my pillow when I laid down. My previous dermatologist had me taking oral antibiotics like Tetracycline, Doxycycline, and Minocycline every single day for over 10 years. And he also had me applying topical antibiotics like Clindamycin every single day for over 10 years. It only improved my condition by maybe 50%. And every single time I cut my hair with electric clippers, I would have these absolutely horrendous outbreaks all over my scalp, face, and neck. And so I can only cut my hair with scissors now. And the chronic use of antibiotics caused me to develop an incurable scalp condition called gram-negative folliculitis - which was proven twice in a scalp culture. I went to several different dermatologists looking for answers and tried several different types of creams, steroids, and oral medications like Bactrim - which I had an allergic reaction to. Nothing really worked. Only oral Ciprofloxacin helped, but only temporarily. Once I stopped taking it, the painful bumps and sores came back. And so now I've been told by 5 different dermatologists and 2 different infectious disease experts that my only option left is to take low-dose Accutane for the rest of my life - which I'm obviously super scared of since I know it will eventually destroy my body. Every day I worry that it will damage my liver and it will show up in bloodwork, and my dermatologists won't let me take Accutane anymore. And once that happens, my skin will eat me alive. At that point, my only option left is suicide because I don't want to be covered in disgusting bumps while also constantly being in pain. And so be very careful not to make the same mistake that I did and overuse antibiotics. Find a good dermatologist who actually knows what they're doing. Most of them are incompetent and couldn't give less of a shit about you.
Did you pick at the bumps?
No.
>Are you using any other hormonal drug/steroid/sarm?
Also no. But I was drinking lots of onions at the time (not a meme). And so maybe that's why I had such severe side effects.
>How long did you used finasteride
Only about 5 weeks. My sex drive actually soared for the first few weeks. And so I thought I lucked out because I was having the exact opposite reaction that I was worried about. But then I woke up one morning in week 5 with virtually zero blood flow to my penis. It was shriveled up to half its normal length and girth, and it was literally cold to the touch. And my testicles shrunk and were tucked in super close to my body. It was as if I jumped into ice water. This lasted over a year. And I'm still not back to 100% 6 1/2 years later. I had absolutely zero problems with my dick before this by the way. If anything, I was getting too many erections. And so 100% it was the Finasteride, and no amount of "Pfft. That's impossible. You're just crazy, bro" will convince me otherwise.
If you get unlucky like me and you wake up with erectile dysfunction one day, start taking 5mg of Cialis and 1,500mg of Citrulline x2 every single day. And use a penis pump for a few minutes every day as well. You need to return normal blood flow back to your penis as soon as possible, or else you'll do permanent damage to your dick like me.
And some people experience severe erectile dysfunction from saw palmetto as well, although it's much more rare.
>No.
I pick at mine constantly. I shaved my head once before and it cleared up immediately. I shaved today and haven’t picked since then and have been applying hydrocortisone. Seems to be working. I’ll document this for future reference. Last time I shaved I deleted the photos but it kept the sores away for over a year.
kys copy paste baiting moron
Any tips for when choosing a dermatologist?
Treat it with anti fungals bro.
That reaction is due to excessive sebum production which fungus/yeast feed on which then triggers your immune system to get inflamed like that.
I have minor dandruff and some flaky skin on my face occasionally, but it's the same condition.
Anti fungal is pretty much the only thing I’m not lathering on right now. I have psoriasis cream, hydrocortisone, and lotion. If that does not improve it by the time i go to the store next I’ll get some anti fungal. It does also show up around my ears and a little on my chin.
Try miconozole for the anti-fungal. It's over the counter usually sold for things like athlete's foot or jock itch, lmao.
keto/carnivore, avoid grains and seed oils.
wash head with cool/cold water only
thank me later.
I'm taking the plunge boys
Will report back in 3 months if my wiener fell off
Don't touch the min, have you even thought this through? Do people not realise this shit is a lifelong commitment of slapping grease on your head twice a day, every day, for the rest of your life and if you miss a few applications all your shit falls out.
Take fin for 2 years then assess from there, 60% of men literally do not respond to min, you could get great results from fin and be a non responder to min yet you will be unable to stop because you have no idea what's working because you started 2 treatments at once, they are two seperate treatments and should never be started at the same time
Alright mr frogposter you have convinced me. It actually makes sense.
I think I spent too much time on tressless
This, if i ever reach the point where i need it, i'd take oral minoxidil over topical any day.
I'll take the 0.1% heart attack chance over the 100% chance of putting greasy shit on my head everyday forever.
The same reason why i started taking finasteride and took on the 2% chance of erectyle disfunction rather than going bald and having the 100% chance of becoming unfrickable.
Btw i had a hair transplant 3 months ago, so excited to see it grow. Now that i've took the double plunge it's like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Up until 2 years ago i was thinking i was destined to remain an incel forever, now the future is bright.
You mfs are gonna make me go bald from stressing about going bald
that means the fin cult is working
I still don't understand how the fricking pharma industry is unable to distinguish and characterize the difference between hair follicles on my scalp above the forehead, which are shrinking and narrowing, and the same fricking follicles down the side of my head, which are fricking vibrant and strong.
YOU FRICKING IDIOTS. WHATEVER THAT IS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BALDNESS AND NOT.
Drugs like fin are the prime money maker for the pharma industry since they are benign but you have to take them every day for the rest of your life
They have no incentive to find a better treatment. As far as the pharma industry is concerned, male pattern baldness has been solved.
>Drugs like fin are the prime money maker for the pharma industry
I hate big pharma too but fricking come on man, the big money makers are things like insulin, antibiotics and painkillers, things that if they disappeared there would be street riots, fin is just one of those side things
He's obviously talking in relation to hair loss
>I still don't understand how the fricking pharma industry is unable to distinguish and characterize the difference between hair follicles on my scalp above the forehead, which are shrinking and narrowing, and the same fricking follicles down the side of my head, which are fricking vibrant and strong.
Except it is known. People who bald due to genetics have a weird pattern rate which aromatase activity decreases. This activity is essentially estrogen dominant and keeps the scalp immune to dht fricking your shit up. Just like how only 40% of minoxidil users are responding to it, due again to genetics, the lack of an enzyme that converts minox into it's active form. We have identified what androgen fricks up the hair and have found finasteride to lower the dht enough on the scalp, for some to regrow or maintain their hair longer than they would have otherwise. There are topical anti androgens like ru58841 that can bind to androgen receptors locally and keep dht from walking in and shitting on the hair follicle. But this doesn't really take care of the main reason of the scalp being sensitive to dht in the first place. Increasing aromatase activity will bring your scalp back to its juvenile environment and allow your hair to come back without need for minoxidil nor finasteride as there is no need. But the cut off is feminization.
>Tldr Aromatase activity in the scalp determines how we bald , topical estradiol/estriol can bring your hair back from the grave, but you'll lose your manhood
*sniff*
Fin killed my dick
Fin only kills the dicks of coomers
Dutasteride and Minoxidil prescription is the best way to cure hairloss
I used topical minox for a few years to slow down my loss. I was basically as bad as guy in your pic. I didn't start growing my hair back until I started needling with a derminator 2 every couple of weeks. My crown has pretty much come back completely and I can see the ocassional new hair coming in on my hairline. My current routine is minox 2×/day and microneedle 2x/month. I put topical duta on when I microneedle. Shit worx.
Daily reminder that if you're capable of growing a full beard, you may end up going bald
> https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/going-bald-according-to-these-scientists-you-can-blame-your-beard
GET FRICKED, BEARDHOMOS
>can't grow a beard properly, pubes on my face but dense forest on my neck
>still balding
>also a shitload of dense body hair in some places, but sparse in others, to the point where I look like some escaped russian experiment when naked
>God: How do you want your hair dude?
>Embryo me: Just frick my shit up senpai.
I'm not enslaving my wallet to pharmaceutical companies over something as irrelevant as my hairline
Fricking finasteride is 50 kiwi dollars a month and I'm probably gonna need min too if I want regrowth, man I am too broke for this shit.
50 dollars would buy you over 6 months worth of finasteride on alldaychemist
I have a spot that's kinda "see through" at the top of my head (not on the crown) and my hairline is intact, it appeared when I started using headphones, could it be balding or just the headphones?
What’s with all the moronic anti fin cults? I’ve been on fin for 3 months and have literally gotten 0 sides
Just saw some pictures of me from 2018. I had a good hairline. Now I’m Norwood 3. I even see pics from 2020 and it wasn’t this bad. For fricks sake god hates men
I’ve noticed that over 60% of white girls have bald fathers or have fricked up hairlines. I get surprised actually when a white dad has a full head of hair. Even when I see a girl online post a pic of her dad he’s norwooding bad. Especially blondes. If you have a kid with a white woman chances are you son will be bald. Harsh truth
The alternatives are worse, so stick with White if you are White yourself.
yeah and almost all men used to marry young before going bald and hoeflation kicked in, its a different world now than it was even 10 years ago, your dad's advice on women is now at the same level as 'just go up to the manager and give him a firm handshake, you'll get a job that way'
Where? Here in germany most white fathers are at most norwood 2. Even my grandpa still has a full head of hair.
If you're american, then I want you to know that most americans are descendants of italian or israeli or mexican immigrants.
american website so he means anglo genetics, who are cursed by god
>Is there also any effective way of lowering DHT with diet, or other habits?
Topical Rosemary oil and topic caffiene oil will both increase bloodflow to the scalp and reduce DHT locally. It's never going to be as effective as the israelite drugs, but it definitely has a measureable and observable effect with no side effects like chemical castration.
fitness?