He claims that it doesn't really affect your programming or the amount of volume you can take if you're natty or not, because after your "roided noob gains" your increased muscle mass needs just as much to recover on juice as your smaller stature needed as a natty. Is he correct?
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Yes, but why would you need to know unless you're a filthy juicer too?
So any advice ment for roiders is just as good for natties?
Always has been. Have you ever seen one person say otherwise and post body?
He is also bald, israeli, a turbo manlet and a pederast.
who cares what he says, he's a lying dilettante.
>He claims that it doesn't really affect your programming or the amount of volume you can take if you're natty or not
Central fatigue is caused by extensive high volume workouts that emphasis aerobic output more than anything else.
source?
>Central fatigue is caused by extensive high volume workouts that emphasis aerobic output more than anything else.
its literally the other way around lmao
I still feel as if roiders do more. But that might be due to piss poor effort that many of them do on each set & still grow anyway
anyone whose taken roids knows they are not a magic pill and the people who respond really well are like 0.001% of the people who have taken gear.
GENETICS is king. Most people her eif they jumped on 600 test cyp a week for 12 months would look a bit better than they do now. That is the reality.
People are always gutted when they find out that they won't look great even on gear. But the truth is bodybuilding is the most genetic based sport out there. You can train harder, smarter, rest better, get better nutrition and never look better than some guy who never even trained but has decent genetics.
Most guys who do a cycle gain around 8lbs and keep around 4lbs. That is the reality.
Wut. Lol. 600mg of test for a year is a fricking huge cycle dude, most people who are eating properly and training properly will get pretty fricking big on that (assuming they don’t develop insane insomnia)
>But the truth is bodybuilding is the most genetic based sport out there. You can train harder, smarter, rest better, get better nutrition and never look better than some guy who never even trained but has decent genetics.
Someone post that autist who did some completely unhinged 10x10 barbell compounds only routine and looked like a greek statue.
>Someone post that autist who did some completely unhinged 10x10 barbell compounds only routine and looked like a greek statue.
Interested in seeing that
siunds like standard German volume training
This is why fitness advice is so wildly varied and full of people that advise you to do things that 100% will not work for you
Genetics plays a massive role in our capabilities from muscle gains to fatigue times to how we react to dietary changes and a bunch in-between. It unfortunately opens the entire space up to be filled with grifters offering magic pills to lazy morons who don't want to actually find what's best for them, but that serves to muddy the waters for people that do
Genetics are massively important (just like for most other things in life) and you won't look as good or be as strong as someone with great genetics, but roids are still definitely a magic pill.
It is physically impossible to get nothing for something.
I can't figure out what this means.
Can someone rephrase for brainlets like me?
He means you can't lift more volume, more often and for longer without recovering (assuming an equivalent workout plan) on roids than you can natty
You get bigger very quickly but then your gains on top of that roided foundation become basically as difficult because you still need to let your body recover just as regularly and both roiders and natties will just be lifting to their maximum and stimulating as much muscle growth
aka he thinks roids add a huge amount quickly then gains become just as hard once you plateau
Thx
TLDR: In the long term you can't train any harder or more often on roids than as natty.
What he means is that
When you get on roids you can indeed train longer, harder and recover faster. But then you get a lot stronger because of the steroids and you lift heavier weights which is more fatiguing on the system so they have to decrease the volume because of that and then up with a training volume that is the same as natty lifters.
Training as a natty ->Taking steroids and training more then natties and getting strong af ->Strong as frick roider have to decrease volume because of the high loads that he is lifting. -> ends up with same volume as natty lifter
There is more to recovery then just hormones.
But you probably can train harder on roids then without. Could Sam Sulek train with that intensity as a natty? I sure as frick can't. Could the tren twins go 100% at every workout like they do without the steroids? And in a recent video one of the tren twins said how he could train more now that he had increased his dose or something and he was training two times per day or some shit. Last vid i think.
probably roiders go for volume to avoid snap as androgens frickbwith collagen and roided muscles grow faster than tendons. this makes me wonder if strongman types are using growth hormone. maybe its secret that allows using heavier weights on hears and is responsible for modern wacky high strenght records.