I got gyno AFTER I STOPPED DOING ROIDS
what the frick HAPPEND??????
When i was on roids i didnt get gyno, my body was perfect. No need for aromatase inhibitor
ok ill stop roids now
THEN THE breasts GREW
WHY WHY WHY WHY
HELP ME
I got gyno AFTER I STOPPED DOING ROIDS
what the frick HAPPEND??????
When i was on roids i didnt get gyno, my body was perfect. No need for aromatase inhibitor
ok ill stop roids now
THEN THE breasts GREW
WHY WHY WHY WHY
Because you didnt do a pct fricktard
a what???
PRO TIP DONT ROID IF YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT PCT IS
It's funny, even dumb millennials in the 2000s on bodybuilding.com dabbling with prohormones, which were marketed as "not really steroids" (even though they were), all understood you needed a PCT after.
Messing with my body's natural hormones had... consequences???
IDK, maybe go to reddit and ask on one of their troony boards?
>Stop doing drug cold-turkey
>Get detox symptoms
Buddeh. Post-cycle therapy is like Gabapenten for alcoholics.
I'm glad people like you exist so I can learn without the consequences.
It's even funnier when you realize that the moron definitely isn't thinking about blood work, either, let alone PCT.
CAN'T AFFORD BLOOD WORK? CAN'T AFFORD PCT? CAN'T AFFORD ROIDS.
If someone already got rid of their gyno with surgery and then roided after, would they get gyno again?
potentially yeah
you crashed your natural test and now you're an estrogenic soi boy with gyno breasts. NO REFUNDS!
post body
ngl the roid troons throwing you under the bus ITT make me kinda sympathize with you, OP.
Time for you to career change: knee pads.
>take test
>body dials down the test production and increases estrogen
>stop taking test
>body: ...
If your body isn’t making testosterone, you will have 0 estrogen.
Estrogen is produced by an aromatase enzyme interacting with testosterone
OP you still there buddy??
>what the frick HAPPEND??????
you fricked up in some very significant way
its basically impossible to get gyno AFTER roids, since at that time you're supposed to be taking PCT drugs
which are SERMs.
which means Selective Estrogen Receptor Modularos.
which means they fricking block estrogen from interacting with anything.
which is why when you start to get gyno on-cycle, the first line of defense is a SERM. just like the ones you should've been taking for PCT.
which means you didn't take them for PCT.
which means you're either a complete moron, or a liar.
i was just popping pills and getting bigger i didnt know ur supposed to take more after
based moron larper
who sent your here?? was it the Noble Natties? was it the DYELS from /roon/??
yea, that wouldn't cut in neither.
if you were popping pills, your endogenous test would crater
and since estrogen is produced by the aromatization of testosterone, that means your estrogen would crater too
(incidentally, this is why deca+dbol was so popular in the golden era. dbol added some much needed estrogen in the otherwise dry deca cycle)
anyways, after you stopped the pills, both estrogen and testosterone would be 0, so no gyno
and then your test would need to rise before estrogen, so again no gyno.
so yea, no, this is a LARP.
gyno is a real concern, but only ON-CYCLE.
and it can be prevented easily.
Lots of smarts anons in this thread, let me ask something
Never used any roid, my T levels are naturally high
What defense measure should I use if i decide to inject tren?
>What defense measure should I use if i decide to inject tren?
get on PrEP, them trannies are disgusting.
*ahem*
jokes aside, you wanna avoid tren
its easily the harshest injectable steroid, and in my humble opinion its risk profile doesn't make sense for anyone except maybe ifbb pros who stand to make a lot of money from their career
if you wanna start roiding, start with the recommended beginner cycle: 400-500mg test e/c per week.
afterwards, you can consider adding more compounds, but again, strong fricking emphasis, stay the frick away from tren.
that shit is actually dangerous, not just meme-tier "you'll get gyno"/"you'll go bald" dangerous.
Tren doesnt cause gyno or baldness, test does lmao I get more sides like gyno from 500 test e vs 700mg of tren ace with low test.
>Tren doesnt cause gyno or baldness
yes it fricking does, both of them.
it doesn't aromatize, but its a progestin, so it can cause gyno through that pathway. lactation too, lol.
and tren is one of the strongest androgens out there, very much capable of binding to your hair follicle's receptors.
and unlike test, who's hair loss effect can be negated with fin, you cannot stop tren induced hair loss. it doesn't need to be 5a-reduced to cause hairloss, the original compound does it just fine.
>I get more sides like gyno from 500 test e vs 700mg of tren ace with low test.
learn to use AI, moron. if you haven't figured that shit out, you have no business whatsoever touching other compounds. and especially fricking tren.
It CAN but its rare and it doesnt most of the time, only if you have high estro from high test conversion will you get gyno sides from tren. AIs are some of the worst drugs for you lmao and you only want to use them if youre getting major sides. I use masteron and only use a.i if im running high test or have issues with nips or water bloat. You seem like you know nothing about steroids lmao. How many cycles have you run? Seems like youve done zero lmao
>only if you have high estro from high test conversion will you get gyno sides from tren
yea, that is correct
still, it CAN cause gyno
>AIs are some of the worst drugs for you lmao and you only want to use them if youre getting major sides
agreed, its preferable to use eq/primo/mast for their AI-like properties instead
but still, a beginner needs to learn to use AI
>How many cycles have you run?
6, but it doesn't matter
facts are facts, regardless of the authority of the person stating them.
>never got gyno or balding from tren
congratz, you have great genetics w.r.t. balding
i'd still suggest staying the frick away from tren, unless you think you're also immune to *checks steroid wiki*:
> neurotoxic, cardiotoxic, hepatotoxic, and nephrotoxic. In the brain, it precipitates amyloid plaque formation, which is a precursor to early-onset dementia and Alzheimer's disease
yes, it fricking can
again, *checks steroid wiki*:
>It is also resistant to the 5 alpha reductase enzyme, but this is of little comfort to a user as trenbolone is already of the most androgenic drugs in common use by steroid users. For this reason androgenic side effects should be expected by most users that undertake a cycle of this drug. Prostate enlargement and oily skin/acne are commonly reported by users. As well anecdotally many users have reported that trenbolone is one of, if not the, harshest compound for losing one's hair. If a user is genetically predisposed to male pattern baldness he may want to avoid trenbolone.
Tren sides are insomnia, sweating anger and reduced stamina, those are the main sides, on paper it can cause gyno but it doesnt in reality. Ive never known anyone to get prolactin induced gyno lmao where youre lactating.
>Tren sides are insomnia, sweating anger and reduced stamina, those are the main sides
those are the main *observable* sides. along with hair loss and acne. and attraction to trannies.
but im sure you'll agree that all these things are but mere annoyances next to the stuff mentioned in that scary ass paragraph.
>Ive never known anyone to get prolactin induced gyno
i've only seen it once, and it was from tren and deca at the same time
still, its possible, so it bears mention.
Scary lmao who cares. All drugs have sides. AIs for example destroy bone density and your cholesterol levels worse than any roid. If youre scared of getting old man diesases when your old then maybe roids arent for you lmao.
are you fricking moronic?
there's a big difference between gyno (preventable, treatable, won't kill you) and fricking *altzheimers and/or dementia*.
that's not the same fricking thing, its not in the same ball park, its not even the same game.
the risk profile of test, eq, primo, var, even fricking deca is just not even close to what you're risking when you're taking tren.
and honestly, i see no reason. yes, tren is very powerful, it produces great results.
but if you can't get a great body that mogs 99.999% of normies with just the "safe" compounds, what the frick are you doing?
plus, from everything i've seen/heard/read reported, tren is not just extremely harmful, its also downright unpleasant.
insomnia/night sweats/extreme mood fluctuations? what the fricking frick? WHY?
because you'll gain an extra lb or 2 from your cycle? because you'll look a tiny % more better while you're on it?
anyways, whatever
its your body, your choice. all i wanted to say is that fraud noobs should stay the frick away from tren, at least until they read and understand what the possible negatives are.
Shut up you tiny little homosexual. All steroids are bad for your heart brain etc, it just depends on the level of abuse and your genetic response. All drugs are like that. Some people smoke for 50 years no cancer others smoke one year die lmao. Steroids are the same. Tren was used HEAVILY late 80s all 90s 2000s onwards. How many bodybuilders do you hear get alzhimers?
>All steroids are bad for your heart brain etc
no, they're fricking not. at least, not anywhere close to the same extent.
you can probably cruise on 500mg test from now till the day you die, and it'll probably be fine. try that shit on tren.
>How many bodybuilders do you hear get alzhimers?
in case you haven't been paying attention, most BBers who seriously abuse drugs tend to die WAY before alzheimers or dementia start becoming an issue.
Exactly you are talking about old man problems when bodybuilders die way before that shit. My point still stands, youre a little homosexual lmao
i plan to die very very old, with a 18-year old kenyan chick gargling my nuts.
judging from your attitude, you'll be gone way before then
so please add an addendum to your will to post your final resting place here
so i can come and take a shit on it.
KYS little tiny Black person loving homosexual
i don't just post "frick Black folk"
i actually do it.
LOL you dont frick anyone hahaha you cant even get your own race and dream about Black personmutts because only an aids riddled chimp would go near you for money.
Ive done injectable tren ace, tren base, tren hex and oral methtltren...never got gyno or balding from tren.
Also tren cant bind to your hair follicle as it doesnt convert to dht. Even modified dht drugs dont make your hair fallout. Dht converted from test will and does bind and make your hair fallout. Everyone I know who high dose test is bald every who kept it lower and used other anabolics high all have hair.
>what the frick HAPPEND??????
It’s called “frick around and find out”.
OP is a larping phaggot. Show us your timestamped breasts you beta liar.
are you the east german kanake from yesterday?
>>WHY WHY
Tell em that its human nature.
Ahahaha the roid troony meme is real!! Lol lmao even
Only a surgeon can help you now OP. Tell the doc that they hurt physically and insurance might cover it
bait but the sad thing is the shit in our food and water already are causing gyno and now u got roidtrannies that will learn the hard way
roidtrannies are unironically the best equipped to handle this shit
do you have a couple dozen tabs of SERMs left over from your past cycle(s)?
no? i didn't fricking think so
a roidtroony notices itchy nips, they know exactly what to do, and they have the means to do it.
lot of kids taking sarms and shit give themselves bad gyno i see it at my gym all the time
Easy , letrozole 2.5mg aday to shrink gland and any lumps, 50mg of mast prop injected right next to gland eod above each side below rotating injection sites , that will NUKE gyno. Run the mast for 3months, letro for same or less if lumps go. Done.
stop eating plants and grains
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