Sure, the redpill people cannot swallow is that hard extra effort doesn't make your life better, just increases the chance of it happening a little bit. And for every successful person there are 99 others that made similar or even occasionally better decisions in the same life situations but failed catastrophically.
Anon that's like the definition of Buddhism if you want to go that route. Desire is the root of pain.
To want nothing is to reach enlightenment so you don't get reincarnated to do this shit over again.
Wahhhh I have to do things waaaahhhhh oh my god poor me guys poor me waaaaaahhhhhhhh it's so hard to live my life where it's literally never been easier to live on planet earth than right now oh woe is me oh my god I'm such a homosexual oooooohhhh poor me waaaaahhhhhh
It's been two days since you posted this you doubleBlack person and I'm still laughing at you
Biggest problem... The lobby is just full of people spamming Chinese gold sellers or incels b***hing and no one wants to play the game together anymore so I am playing single player on the pvp server getting farmed by kids who used their dad's credit cards to powerlevel
I'm so glad I only have to do this shit once. I seriously hope I don't reroll because there's like a 75% chance I'll end up in an even worse build than my current one. Life stopped being fun around like 25. Everyone just cares about money and showing each other gucci pocket books. Anyone worth a shit got married 10 years ago.
>Just get out there and do things you enjoy
I do.. I kayak at a pretty high level and did some class Vs last year. I joined the local club that is into it and there is 1 guy and 0 girls under 40 that do it locally.
I lift basically every day and the only conversations I have at the gym are literal gays that are trying to frick me or 50 year old MGTOW types that haven't an hero'd yet. There is zero way for a guy in his mid 30s to bond with other men basically. Everyone is competing and trying to mog each other or married and don't leave their house. The only social spaces involve abusing alcohol or hard drugs and the only work conversations are talking with someone about a football game you don't care about.
Yeah I got you man. After 30 it gets really hard to bond with males, I dont even care about that shit, what is the fricking point? I already have an established identity and worldview, what, do I need reinforcement from random dudes? Frick no. I just act like I always do. If you like me, great, if you dont, who the frick cares? You havent read your literature. Getting chicks is getting more and more easy tho, and what is the point of social gatherings, what gives you the most fullfillment? Yeah. Fricking chicks, being desired. So who gives a shit about all the other bullshit. I have my dudes with whom I can shoot the shit If i want to, I dont need more of those
>Getting chicks is easier than ever
True and blackpilling. I do that when I get an itch but it's all pretty fake, gay and demoralizing plus a huge time waste. I fricked like 12 zoomers last year and only legitimately gave a single shit about one of them and she literally had an Amazon wish list on her social media for cucks to mail her shit all the time and flew to Miami to frick some guy while we were dating.
I just want to hang out with the boys like the good old days. Everyone just works a job they hate that eats up all of their time and they take their fat wife on a vacation a couple times a year between drinking themselves to sleep and larping on social media.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Shit my man am I glad I dont live in the states
5 months ago
Anonymous
I doubt it's different anywhere else. You might just be in denial. Maybe it's amplified in America because most women are obese so it really blows up the egos of the few that aren't obese. I don't really blame the women it's mens fault for being moronic cucks.
Imagine having the nerve to post a link to a go fund me on social media that just says "I want to go on vacation please gib money" and guys all send her money. Posting a list of clothes and stuff you want on social media and Amazon packages just constantly show up at your door. Your inbox being hundreds of guys saying they will give you their entire networth to sniff your farts. Men are a fricking joke nowadays and I just wish I had a crew of 5 or so guys that wasn't a total fricking loser to hang out with like the good old days. Nowadays anyone that isn't in a room full of piss jugs shame eating before they get on Only fans just view other men as competition
5 months ago
Anonymous
>mens fault for being moronic cucks.
How so?
5 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's very different elsewhere. Most people in my country cant even understand english properly so they get exposes less to this degenerate shit you're talking about, less likely shape their worldview etc. Of course there are some who adopt this western shit you're talking about but you can just avoid those
it is no wonder pepe is a frog and became the biggest meme in existence. Kek is the egyptian god of the passage to from life to death and also change. He is also a frog. There's something fascinating about the frog. It lives both on land and in water and metamorphosize to reach adulthood. Symbol of change and selfimprovement.
>It lives both on land and in water and metamorphosize to reach adulthood. Symbol of change and selfimprovement.
Its interesting, if you remember the bachelor frog meme that was popular on IST around 2008-2009, you can image that the people that where posting the bachelor frog lived like the meme. And we can image what their lives looked like then and how they turned out. It was the teens and early 20's for many anons. We can image that those same anons stayed on 4hcan. The bachelor frog posting teens over the course of 8-10 years became pepe posting mid 20s to mid 30's anons.
Yeah sure, but needing to do that is a personal failure of mine. How the frick couldn’t I do something as basic as not letting my teeth deteriorate? I mean I always brushed twice a day, used non-alcohol mouthwash, etc, but it still didn’t matter. I partially blame my parents for letting me eat sugar and acidic foods as a kid. When I look back they basically didn’t instill any healthy habits it me or my siblings, they were too busy being mad at each other and getting divorced.
Sometimes it isn't preventable in the first place if your enamel is naturally weak. Just have to deal with the hand you're dealt the best way you can and not feel bad about it.
Bro you can eat all the sugar you want and still not get tooth deterioration. Yours is most likely too little vitamin k2, D, magnesium and calcium. All 4 are needed.
the original had the naked guy just knock out the cop and walk away, with cop lying cold on the ground.
The context of the edit would be that the officer, after being confronted with the display of this moder day Diogines attidute had a moment of enlightenment of how gay tnd moronic the world around and decided to also loose the chanins of the societal constrains and decided to, even if for a brief momnet, to feel free.
Life is a series of disappointments and then you fricking die. Frick you.
how do you stay hopeful in complete absence of progress and signs of anything positive? i don't want to go into much detail about my life, but i've been to therapy for years on and off since childhood, every coping strategy just seems like bullshit delusion to me and i get demoralized super easy.
i also get depressed and disgusted by the thought of me "being happy" with not ever achieving anything i want to/ want to have, which is often what it comes down to, they just play verbal games and say if its "acceptance" its not "giving up"
As a random anon loser on a himalayan yak wool knitting forum, I don't know.
But, for me, I think that violence and horror are the fundamental state of reality, that hierarchy is real, and that everything dies and fades. Ugly and depressing shit I guess. But. I find working within (or against) those parameters is helpful.
Making something beautiful or planning and being disciplined is essentially of an act of rebellion against that reality.
If you understand that hierarchy is real you can work to figure out where you are in one. And that's the thing, you may be down in ugly land on the beauty hierarchy, but you're gonna be up there in something. And if you can figure that out, you can find your people.
Yes someone, or eventually time, will come and destroy your garden, but if you grew it and enjoyed it, and shared it, I've got to believe you won.
If it really is all pointless, then that's especially freeing because then you're empowered to make a point.
But that's probably all bullshit. Go pick up heavy things and put them down, consistently. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
If you find yourself high enough in any given hierarchy, "your people" will typically be hyper-competitive towards you. This why success is often associated with feelings of loneliness.
As a random anon loser on a himalayan yak wool knitting forum, I don't know.
But, for me, I think that violence and horror are the fundamental state of reality, that hierarchy is real, and that everything dies and fades. Ugly and depressing shit I guess. But. I find working within (or against) those parameters is helpful.
Making something beautiful or planning and being disciplined is essentially of an act of rebellion against that reality.
If you understand that hierarchy is real you can work to figure out where you are in one. And that's the thing, you may be down in ugly land on the beauty hierarchy, but you're gonna be up there in something. And if you can figure that out, you can find your people.
Yes someone, or eventually time, will come and destroy your garden, but if you grew it and enjoyed it, and shared it, I've got to believe you won.
If it really is all pointless, then that's especially freeing because then you're empowered to make a point.
But that's probably all bullshit. Go pick up heavy things and put them down, consistently. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
>And if you can figure that out, you can find your people.
great, I'm a lonely loser with no achievements. I am assuming that puts me near the bottom of the hierarchy, right above homeless people, now where do I find "my" people
>great, I'm a lonely loser with no achievements. I am assuming that puts me near the bottom of the hierarchy, right above homeless people, now where do I find "my" people >IST.org
you already found us anon
Your outlook on the world can be viewed as a delusion in itself.
If you have made no progress in your life, then you have to make positive changes and endure with great patience.
Time changes the seasons, it moves mountains, and if you use the powerful flow of time to grant you a continual harvest of your hard work, you WILL have progress.
To be happy, there is a lot to it. It is a way of life.
It helps to fill your mind with healthy images, expectations, thankfulness, etc. and to strive for a healthy and wholesome life.
I personally couldn't do it until I searched for God, and he presented himself to me in Christ.
To become happy, I think the best way might be to pursue beauty, truth and what is good in everything that you do and experience.
>"being happy" with not ever achieving anything i want to/ want to have, which is often what it comes down to,
What is it you want and fail to achieve?
do you realise therapy is basically stoicism 2.0? its just philosophy, not too different from talking to priest century ago and being told god has plan, god makes no mistakes etc.
instead of going to therapy you should figure out what you want, and get it. if you cant you just gotta blow it out of your ass.
do you realise therapy is basically stoicism 2.0? its just philosophy, not too different from talking to priest century ago and being told god has plan, god makes no mistakes etc.
instead of going to therapy you should figure out what you want, and get it. if you cant you just gotta blow it out of your ass.
we went from gods plan to internal mental gymnastics real quick didnt we
not him but i've been kickboxing for years and it didn't help me do anything but learn to kickbox, it feels like a huge percentage of us are hardlocked out of socializing and learning to socialize and i've never seen evidence to the contrary no matter the shitty copypaste advice people post about it.
its like you cant make friends or get women without already having them
is really hard sometimes to not give in
i'm a literal sperg and nearly every interaction that i have with another person remind me of that fact
sometimes i feel like i'm barely human, just an meat automaton devoid of humanity
i've been having suicidal thoughts more frequently now. I don't think that i will ever actually kill myself, but i'm not looking forward for anything in life either
i feel so fricking lost and alone
I've known some incredibly fulfilled short men, anon. One was about 5'4. He was wealthy but also had a loving and loyal wife (taller than him), and many beautiful daughters and sons who went on to be successful in their own interests.
Same here and lately I've played sports and sparred and realized I can actually hold my own against dudes way bigger than me. IRL I try to stay modest and don't brag but friends have talked me up and done it for me >dude did you see anon kick that guys ass I was surprised >well anon if something happens we'll just send you to fight them
And I have to say it feels pretty good. Of course the ONE area in which I can't seem to overcome this by just having heart is when it comes to women and that is the worst of all and I don't know how to fix it
> Of course the ONE area in which I can't seem to overcome this by just having heart is when it comes to women and that is the worst of all and I don't know how to fix it
Men are supposed to have heart with women, anon. They're softer, weaker and that heart is what makes us want to keep them safe. Same as a mother's softness towards her child.
By heart I just mean sheer determination, thats how I make up for being seen as a weak manlet. If something dangerous happens I'm there while others back off, because my will to prove myself outweighs my sense of self preservation pretty often. And to a surprising extent I have gained people's respect, including from women, but it doesn't actually make me attractive to them. The few who did show interest in me did so without even knowing me so I know it wasn't any of my actual good qualities they cared about (and they were basically all overweight which leads me to believe they thought I was the best they could do and that they'd have a chance at me, which they didn't, lol).
Anon is cool and all but I see him as a friend. Like nothing I could ever do would change that, at least that's how it feels to me
>By heart I just mean sheer determination, thats how I make up for being seen as a weak manlet.
You gotta get out of your head, dude. The Internet is not real, no one cares about the whole "manlet/chad" forced dichotomy irl. You don't have to push yourself, man. I get why you do but that sounds draining.
>(and they were basically all overweight which leads me to believe they thought I was the best they could do
You also have to remember that a lot of women are just fat. It's not a conspiracy, some fat women (like some thin women) are just more assertive than others. >and that they'd have a chance at me, which they didn't, lol).
Incredibly based
IDK what I'm quoting to say. I guess just I'm sorry you feel like you gotta front so much. Hope you forget about that stuff, find a great hobby you love, and meet a girl you get along with and you have a mutual love for each other.
>You gotta get out of your head, dude. The Internet is not real
Actually I'd been at a point where I "realized" it didn't matter and was basically just an Internet thing. Back then I was in community college just working part time so I could go to college and I was a bit of a hermit just trying to get my work done. When I went to college and started being out there I was met with the harsh reality that they really do care, a lot, apparently. And that hurt a lot. I never asked anyone or anything but I'd overhear it and one time I even had to listen to it from someone I liked about how so and so is so tall and that's why she went out with him despite his having no other redeeming qualities. So unfortunately I have to say it's not just an internet thing.
>You also have to remember that a lot of women are just fat.
Yeah, it's a shame really. Guys are getting fat too, not as much but so many people are overweight these days.
>I guess just I'm sorry you feel like you gotta front so much.
Thanks anon, I never do dumb macho shit for no reason and I don't think I look like I'm overcompensating to people but I still have to try harder than most I think. Got hobbies I love and good friends it's just that one last piece that hurts honestly
Unironically this. I'm tall, amd everyone kind of expects me to win fights, to get the girls, etc. But when a tall guy is autistic as shit and doesn't talk to women, people are weirded out at how I could have all these things everyone wants, but still not make it. I can tell you, at the end of the day, there's so much more important things in dating and life than height.
All I can do is prove stereotypes right, and maybe live up to people's expectations. Short kinds cam fricking rage against the system, get everything in life despite it all, and spit in the faces of tall people by just smiling and being a bro while living better lives than them. Truly based.
A lot of guys are like "what is the meaning of this? I will die soon".
The truth is you can only feel happiness and fulfilment as a man if you achieve something. You need to fight and make progress every day. Make gains, make money, expand social circle, travel around the world, explore all options.
Pills, therapy, porn, video games all those don't give you fulfilment, they just distract you from what you're supposed to do. So if you engage in these things in the back of your head you will still feel that depression and the sense of time running out.
Very true indeed. I've had to reach a certain age, step in certain dogshits to truly understand these words, but ultimately the life of men can be summarized like you've said.
Therapy doesnt work for men, because of this reason. Only moronic females get fullfillment from flapping their mouth. Men doesnt operate this way.
Dont get me wrong, self reflection and knowing oneself is very important to know whats important to you and what doesnt, but you dont need to pay same hack to do that.
There's some koan that goes:
As beginners mountains are mountains, and along the way mountains became ten thousand other things, but as a master mountains are mountains
I agree with this but after living a very adventurous life (moving from country to country etc.) in my 20s I feel like saying one of the best things any man can do is caring for his family and loved ones; uplift those around you and don't become a footstool, it's a very difficult balance but like all beautiful things it's absolutely worth it. Money will come and leave, same with your social circle and, sadly, gains. Love is eternal, take care of your family and real bros, bros.
Yeah I think it all comes down to creation or at least cultivating some kind of achievement. I felt the most fulfillment in life when I had a clear goal and purpose to achieve.
>jacked off yesterday and today >and today was to porn
there goes my 2 months streak
frick my life
also i think my cum is weird, it's kinda too thick, some of it looks like transparent small worms even, idk how to describe it
what the frick is that
it gets like that if you havent jerked off in a while, all fricked up and shit
maybe stop measuring your self discipline by this mundane loser shit and jerk off if you feel like it, but keep working towards actually important stuff
You shouldnt have been born a male then, deal with it
If you dont feel like wanting to frick the first decent looking female youve come across you have something wrong with you
Jackin of is a surrogate activity until you have the opportunity to act on that carnal desire
The problem arises when you do nothing else and you succumb to more and more degenerate shit to jack off to to keep you interested
5 months ago
Anonymous
true enough, still, i'd rather not do it than do it
idk what came over me
5 months ago
Anonymous
What homie, shit builds up in you and distracts you from doing actually meaningful stuff, that's what
How about not fricking with yourself and just focusing on whats important?
You're fixing your brain just by abstaining from porn. You'll naturally not spend all day touching yourself. Just do it once or so a week. That's more discipline than this "streak" you end once and immediately go back to bad habits.
Dunno what you're talking about my man. Know thyself, and act accordingly. Dont make it dependent on others to figure out who you are. Frick standard stereotypes, and dont limit yourself to those
Analysis paralysis is just a symptom of overthinking. Personally I enjoy thinking but thinking is a double edged sword that you must master. You have to master your own thoughts and ascend above them and act accordingly. I’m not saying to go down a level to where you’d be an NPC just roaming around, but purposely choosing to not think. This is called living in the present. Typically you would “train” this by meditating— although that’s not the only way. I would start by just recognizing when you start thinking and catch yourself. You’ll find yourself coming back to the present and ultra self aware. The more you do this, the better you will get at being in the present which means you’ll not overthinking and therefore not get stuck in analysis paralysis.
Of course easier said than done, but I would recommend reading the book, “The Power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle.
It unironically becomes easy when you realize you will never be a normie. Only normies can experience things like friendships and having relationships. When you realize your parents are the only people who will ever care about you and you're unable to do things like get women it becomes so easy. I spent so long beating myself up and demoralizing myself on why I kept getting rejected and was unable to get a women, when, in reality, I was never supposed to live that life. I was able to focus on money and working on my body and life has never been easier since then. I don't have to worry about 1/2th the shit people have to worry about daily.
>Dad told me to take care of myself because no one else cares >Mom left home when I was a kid without saying goodbye >Dad told me not to kill myself until after he dies
I haven't considered cutting my dick off or killing myself so I'm doing better than most zoomers I guess. Definitely won't ever be able to take the normie pill though. Not an alcoholic/drug abuser anymore but I've fricked dozens of holes and will never get married or have kids. Dunno why I haven't started roiding yet other than not having a reliable connection
I have friends, but they're all normies and we have little in common. They are all nice to me, but it's precisely how nice people are that often leave me wondering if it wouldn't offer me some relief to have no one at all. Most of the time, I feel like I'm merely humoring their well-intended platitudes. Like I'm taking time out of my day to let others feel good about trying to make me feel good by involving me in their lives.
Though it is well-meant, in a way it feels like an insult when friends try to relate to me in a way usually reserved for children. "So, anon. You played any cool video games lately," one might offer after an hour of me just sitting there, a mere spectator to the "grown ups" talking about adult things.
>Like I'm taking time out of my day to let others feel good about trying to make me feel good by involving me in their lives.
Anon at best you're overthinking things, and at worst you're turning yourself into a charity case in your own mind.
If you have normie friends, then that means you have the opportunity to learn how people actually interact, if that's what you really want (and I grant you, if).
Like, you said yourself you'll just sit there for an hour and contribute nothing to the group conversation. They are being nice, by trying to relate to you regarding one of the only things you've probably indicated you care about. Have you done the same for them?
You could say this anon is "coping", but he definitely improved his life using the right mind-set. Even tho I think that everyone can fall in love and have a good releationship, I think he is in the right path.
I feel like I'm stagnating. I really want to quit my job and dump my gf and do something else with my life. I make good money in a depressing drone job and live with my increasingly obese gf who will suck my dick a couple times a week in exchange for me having to deal with her having a mental health crisis over nothing every 3 days.
I'm complacent but not happy. I need some push telling me I can do better. I worked hard to get even here but I've grown so much as a person since this life started.
if you don’t have children then you are in no way bound or obligated to do anything for anyone. maybe if your relationship is good with your parents or other close family, you can feel a sense of duty to help them if they are struggling, but otherwise you have zero obligation to wear the albatross of a “successful” or stable life. you should be taking risks and exploring and failing so miserably that you must begin all over again naked and afraid like you just woke up in valheim. God has given you a sound mind and able body, use them to try as many new things and places and people as possible until you find the things and place and person you want to end up with, then have a bunch of white children, then help as many people around you as possible, and then die.
Make a list of things (people, objects, circumstances) that cause you the most unneeded stress in your life. Eliminate those things, even if its painful in the short term, like a potential break-up with your girlfriend.
Once you complete that, then write out a description of how you want your life to ideally look like in a year where you will be happy and content. Then make a list of actionable things you could do to starting now to make that life a reality in a year.
Guys I lost her. I gave my energy and love and time and money to her and I still couldn't keep her. I'm defeated and devastated. I feel like I haven't even begun to process the weight of this I think I'm still in denial. I don't want to be alone during the holidays bros. Someone tell me it's going to be okay
It's okay to feel sad just make sure you still do the things you know are good for you. Take walks, get to the gym, hang out with friends. You'll make it through, it sucks real bad and after a while it sucks less and then it just doesn't suck anymore.
Once you will cool down, look back at what you did wrong with a clear mind and LEARN from the expierence.
Please, do not get stuck in the Oneitis grief phase, or fall for the hatefull incell mentality. There is nothing more cringe and pathetic on this gay planet than that.
I personally would also argue againts excessive fall into one night stands, whatever the confidence boosts that might be. At least I did not enjoy the feeling like a manprostitute afterwards (but that might be a skill issue).
You will find someone new, dont worry too much about it. Just screen and select them better next time.
Value yourself and dont be a simp. Good luck.
I started lifting for women. It was stupid, because women will never like me. Just don't have the genetics. But I found peace in exercise, I can try and look good body wise and feel healthier
We've all been there or at other dark places.
Hang in there, there is nothing you can't do or achieve if you try over and over again.
I believe in you bro!
I just wanna have many sex with many average women and spend the least ammount of money in the process, I don't have any other goal but it's hard anyway, need to get more fit and beautiful, have better skin maybe, be more interesting.
>I just wanna have many sex with many average women and spend the least ammount of money in the process,
Get in shape, take some good pics shirtless if you're low bf, install dating app, right swipe all women, upfront ask every woman who looks remotely frickable to you if they want to hook up. Meet up with the ones who are 100% dtf immediately, ignore all of the "lol lets meet for a drink first" or "maybe :)" ones, they're not committed to it. That's all it takes.
>upfront ask every woman who looks remotely frickable to you if they want to hook up
how many messages would you spend to word this to them? Seems like you'd get such a low turnout rate compared to just going for the simple drink date, then hookup on date 2
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Frick this, fricking stupid world everything is too complicated I just want a fricking clear goal FUUUUUUUUUACKKKKKKKKKCUJNNNNNTTT
I want to give up. Today was tough I d9nt think it should have been. Nothing really happened. Even when I was rejected by a woman I really wanted to be with I didn't feel so bad.
I didn't give up. I ate more than I planned to but I still went to the gym. Went everyday I planned to. I dont really feel like I'm progressing or feel good. Even when I have real progress.
Ngl a lot of posts on here are very demoralizing. I think it might be best to avoid this place but everywhere else is gay.
what keeps me going is thinking what i could look like if i got ripped. i'd be objectively above average. women have already told me my face is handsome in the past. doesnt happen all the time but its happened more than once, so i want to maximize my body and fitness potential as well and reach the peak level of attractiveness i am capable of
idk man >recently having a very hard time being sober >gf i was infatuated with and i won't/can't ever talk to each other again >have been with other girls since then and am still a sex haver but i really miss her and can't stand i let her go and now some other guy is going to get to have her >caused a lot of suffering to people i cared about >pretty sure my friends never want to see me again >almost lost my job, have a terrible undeserved reputation now that I can't defend against because someone who hated me lied about me behind my back
i really miss my old self and am trying so hard to get back to that but i am so quick to lash out at people now
i let the bad things that happened turn me bitter but i'm aware of it enough to try reversing it at least
thanks, i appreciate it man
i just started eating clean today
trying to fix my life after years of eating goyslop and getting fat
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>ifunny
i did laugh too. ITS OHP DAY
Life is a series of disappointments and then you fricking die. Frick you.
skill issue
git gud
What do you think demoralization gays do on IST when they're not posting shit like this?
edging and begging for naked pics of troon mods on their discord
Having gay anal sex with Black folk.
>Life is a series of disappointments
So true
>Life is a series of disappointments
Good.
You're one of those disappointments
Frick off, we're getting better in here
>Life is a series of disappointments
You just found out?
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
Holy reddit
Sure, the redpill people cannot swallow is that hard extra effort doesn't make your life better, just increases the chance of it happening a little bit. And for every successful person there are 99 others that made similar or even occasionally better decisions in the same life situations but failed catastrophically.
Still it won't stop me, homosexual.
Sorry chief but im built different.
Yeah basically.
but youre alive right
I would rather die seeking happiness, virtue, and being of service to others than to maximize my sensual pleasures due to fear.
>Life is a series of disappointments
yeah but that's the fun of it, it's one huge joke just laugh at the irony of it all and keep on going
Anon that's like the definition of Buddhism if you want to go that route. Desire is the root of pain.
To want nothing is to reach enlightenment so you don't get reincarnated to do this shit over again.
Boohooooo
For you, yes
Wahhhh I have to do things waaaahhhhh oh my god poor me guys poor me waaaaaahhhhhhhh it's so hard to live my life where it's literally never been easier to live on planet earth than right now oh woe is me oh my god I'm such a homosexual oooooohhhh poor me waaaaahhhhhh
It's been two days since you posted this you doubleBlack person and I'm still laughing at you
LFG
Biggest problem... The lobby is just full of people spamming Chinese gold sellers or incels b***hing and no one wants to play the game together anymore so I am playing single player on the pvp server getting farmed by kids who used their dad's credit cards to powerlevel
Maybe you should refocus your priorities my man.
You only got 1 life like me
I'm so glad I only have to do this shit once. I seriously hope I don't reroll because there's like a 75% chance I'll end up in an even worse build than my current one. Life stopped being fun around like 25. Everyone just cares about money and showing each other gucci pocket books. Anyone worth a shit got married 10 years ago.
>Just get out there and do things you enjoy
I do.. I kayak at a pretty high level and did some class Vs last year. I joined the local club that is into it and there is 1 guy and 0 girls under 40 that do it locally.
I lift basically every day and the only conversations I have at the gym are literal gays that are trying to frick me or 50 year old MGTOW types that haven't an hero'd yet. There is zero way for a guy in his mid 30s to bond with other men basically. Everyone is competing and trying to mog each other or married and don't leave their house. The only social spaces involve abusing alcohol or hard drugs and the only work conversations are talking with someone about a football game you don't care about.
Yeah I got you man. After 30 it gets really hard to bond with males, I dont even care about that shit, what is the fricking point? I already have an established identity and worldview, what, do I need reinforcement from random dudes? Frick no. I just act like I always do. If you like me, great, if you dont, who the frick cares? You havent read your literature. Getting chicks is getting more and more easy tho, and what is the point of social gatherings, what gives you the most fullfillment? Yeah. Fricking chicks, being desired. So who gives a shit about all the other bullshit. I have my dudes with whom I can shoot the shit If i want to, I dont need more of those
>Getting chicks is easier than ever
True and blackpilling. I do that when I get an itch but it's all pretty fake, gay and demoralizing plus a huge time waste. I fricked like 12 zoomers last year and only legitimately gave a single shit about one of them and she literally had an Amazon wish list on her social media for cucks to mail her shit all the time and flew to Miami to frick some guy while we were dating.
I just want to hang out with the boys like the good old days. Everyone just works a job they hate that eats up all of their time and they take their fat wife on a vacation a couple times a year between drinking themselves to sleep and larping on social media.
Shit my man am I glad I dont live in the states
I doubt it's different anywhere else. You might just be in denial. Maybe it's amplified in America because most women are obese so it really blows up the egos of the few that aren't obese. I don't really blame the women it's mens fault for being moronic cucks.
Imagine having the nerve to post a link to a go fund me on social media that just says "I want to go on vacation please gib money" and guys all send her money. Posting a list of clothes and stuff you want on social media and Amazon packages just constantly show up at your door. Your inbox being hundreds of guys saying they will give you their entire networth to sniff your farts. Men are a fricking joke nowadays and I just wish I had a crew of 5 or so guys that wasn't a total fricking loser to hang out with like the good old days. Nowadays anyone that isn't in a room full of piss jugs shame eating before they get on Only fans just view other men as competition
>mens fault for being moronic cucks.
How so?
No, it's very different elsewhere. Most people in my country cant even understand english properly so they get exposes less to this degenerate shit you're talking about, less likely shape their worldview etc. Of course there are some who adopt this western shit you're talking about but you can just avoid those
I reached the end of he road ISTizens
It was an honor to lurk with you
>anime pictures
jump off a bridge
Thanks lad
obstacle is the way
WAGMI bros
Mods should remove this thread but they won't because they're gay.
>NOOOOOO A troony LOOKISM THREAD DIED FOR THIS
Removing this thread would be the utmost gayest thing possible
Some of us will make it in 2024, I hope you are one of them.
make what?
it
Thank you, friend. I won’t give up. WAGMI!
>
it is no wonder pepe is a frog and became the biggest meme in existence. Kek is the egyptian god of the passage to from life to death and also change. He is also a frog. There's something fascinating about the frog. It lives both on land and in water and metamorphosize to reach adulthood. Symbol of change and selfimprovement.
I didn’t know that but that’s cool
frogs are indicator species, meaning if something goes wrong in the environment all of them die
pepe is an indicator for the meme-o-sphere
>wraps the blade
>Gosh, I sure wouldn't want seppuku to hurt!
>It lives both on land and in water and metamorphosize to reach adulthood. Symbol of change and selfimprovement.
Its interesting, if you remember the bachelor frog meme that was popular on IST around 2008-2009, you can image that the people that where posting the bachelor frog lived like the meme. And we can image what their lives looked like then and how they turned out. It was the teens and early 20's for many anons. We can image that those same anons stayed on 4hcan. The bachelor frog posting teens over the course of 8-10 years became pepe posting mid 20s to mid 30's anons.
That’s a smart observation
It's only been a month of going to the gym and clean eating, but for the first time in my life I actually think I'm GMI
Dont ever stop or give up
if you give up or stop, i will find your house and shit in your cupboard. keep going, friend.
>Don’t give up.
Easier said than done
Thanks Anon
How do I not when I’m realizing I have fricked up teeth, and that shits permanent. Thanks for the weak enamel dad.
Just get some veneers.
Yeah sure, but needing to do that is a personal failure of mine. How the frick couldn’t I do something as basic as not letting my teeth deteriorate? I mean I always brushed twice a day, used non-alcohol mouthwash, etc, but it still didn’t matter. I partially blame my parents for letting me eat sugar and acidic foods as a kid. When I look back they basically didn’t instill any healthy habits it me or my siblings, they were too busy being mad at each other and getting divorced.
Sometimes it isn't preventable in the first place if your enamel is naturally weak. Just have to deal with the hand you're dealt the best way you can and not feel bad about it.
Bro you can eat all the sugar you want and still not get tooth deterioration. Yours is most likely too little vitamin k2, D, magnesium and calcium. All 4 are needed.
Sucks man.
Sensodyne and soft bristle toothbrushes
The frick did I just watch
what the frick?
Why didn't they call the police
> It won the grand jury prize at the Montreal Comedy Festival, a BAFTA for best short film amongst others. Starring Dean Taylor and Andrew Schofield.
legendary IST citizens for down the road
Explain context of this pic now.
the original had the naked guy just knock out the cop and walk away, with cop lying cold on the ground.
The context of the edit would be that the officer, after being confronted with the display of this moder day Diogines attidute had a moment of enlightenment of how gay tnd moronic the world around and decided to also loose the chanins of the societal constrains and decided to, even if for a brief momnet, to feel free.
Excelent bait. If meant honestly, find Christ.
how do you stay hopeful in complete absence of progress and signs of anything positive? i don't want to go into much detail about my life, but i've been to therapy for years on and off since childhood, every coping strategy just seems like bullshit delusion to me and i get demoralized super easy.
i also get depressed and disgusted by the thought of me "being happy" with not ever achieving anything i want to/ want to have, which is often what it comes down to, they just play verbal games and say if its "acceptance" its not "giving up"
As a random anon loser on a himalayan yak wool knitting forum, I don't know.
But, for me, I think that violence and horror are the fundamental state of reality, that hierarchy is real, and that everything dies and fades. Ugly and depressing shit I guess. But. I find working within (or against) those parameters is helpful.
Making something beautiful or planning and being disciplined is essentially of an act of rebellion against that reality.
If you understand that hierarchy is real you can work to figure out where you are in one. And that's the thing, you may be down in ugly land on the beauty hierarchy, but you're gonna be up there in something. And if you can figure that out, you can find your people.
Yes someone, or eventually time, will come and destroy your garden, but if you grew it and enjoyed it, and shared it, I've got to believe you won.
If it really is all pointless, then that's especially freeing because then you're empowered to make a point.
But that's probably all bullshit. Go pick up heavy things and put them down, consistently. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
If you find yourself high enough in any given hierarchy, "your people" will typically be hyper-competitive towards you. This why success is often associated with feelings of loneliness.
Yes, but every person is simultaneously in multiple hierarchies. It's cool.
>And if you can figure that out, you can find your people.
great, I'm a lonely loser with no achievements. I am assuming that puts me near the bottom of the hierarchy, right above homeless people, now where do I find "my" people
Step one: stop being a homosexual and figure it out for yourself where you belong. Nobody will do it for you you whiny c**t
learn to read Black person, I already know where I belong, and no one else is there.
>great, I'm a lonely loser with no achievements. I am assuming that puts me near the bottom of the hierarchy, right above homeless people, now where do I find "my" people
>IST.org
you already found us anon
Good post anon
What life is or isn't is irrelevant to living. Do what you will where you can, regardless of the valuation of things.
Amen anon
Beautiful
Your outlook on the world can be viewed as a delusion in itself.
If you have made no progress in your life, then you have to make positive changes and endure with great patience.
Time changes the seasons, it moves mountains, and if you use the powerful flow of time to grant you a continual harvest of your hard work, you WILL have progress.
To be happy, there is a lot to it. It is a way of life.
It helps to fill your mind with healthy images, expectations, thankfulness, etc. and to strive for a healthy and wholesome life.
I personally couldn't do it until I searched for God, and he presented himself to me in Christ.
To become happy, I think the best way might be to pursue beauty, truth and what is good in everything that you do and experience.
Slave mentality. Pathetic.
>"being happy" with not ever achieving anything i want to/ want to have, which is often what it comes down to,
What is it you want and fail to achieve?
>going to therapy
That is brainwashing for women. Why did you think this was a good idea
do you realise therapy is basically stoicism 2.0? its just philosophy, not too different from talking to priest century ago and being told god has plan, god makes no mistakes etc.
instead of going to therapy you should figure out what you want, and get it. if you cant you just gotta blow it out of your ass.
we went from gods plan to internal mental gymnastics real quick didnt we
What do you do when the gym isn't enough? I took control of my health and body, but I feel lost in everything else in life
>I feel lost in everything else in life
good. voluntary loss is the path to enlightenment. so the buddhists
Martial arts gym. Learn to fight
Get money
Get b***hes
Get closer to god
not him but i've been kickboxing for years and it didn't help me do anything but learn to kickbox, it feels like a huge percentage of us are hardlocked out of socializing and learning to socialize and i've never seen evidence to the contrary no matter the shitty copypaste advice people post about it.
its like you cant make friends or get women without already having them
>inspirational overcoming hardship quote
>posters hardships amount to no gf
hardships amount to no gf
1 Esdras 4:13-32
Yeah.....
is really hard sometimes to not give in
i'm a literal sperg and nearly every interaction that i have with another person remind me of that fact
sometimes i feel like i'm barely human, just an meat automaton devoid of humanity
i've been having suicidal thoughts more frequently now. I don't think that i will ever actually kill myself, but i'm not looking forward for anything in life either
i feel so fricking lost and alone
Same man. I'm not even sure anymore if I'm actually smart or just a dumb unlucky frick who can obsess over things enough.
good resolution version
think about this during you deadlift next time:
your lips are made with the same type of skin and texture as your butthole.
god is amazing
we all gonna make it
Just full-stacked for single leg extensions
We are so fricking back
thanks for saying 😀
Too late bro
Too late? You must mean that it's too late to start today, and that is still wrong
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Thank you
I'm 5'4
As a guy
Sometimes life gives you a 2 and a 4. You could still win
Dwarf, Tron or Rich. Other than that kys.
A rich dwarf seems like goals IMO.
You sure?
ah youre right, misread the tape measure. im actually 6'2
I've known some incredibly fulfilled short men, anon. One was about 5'4. He was wealthy but also had a loving and loyal wife (taller than him), and many beautiful daughters and sons who went on to be successful in their own interests.
Same here and lately I've played sports and sparred and realized I can actually hold my own against dudes way bigger than me. IRL I try to stay modest and don't brag but friends have talked me up and done it for me
>dude did you see anon kick that guys ass I was surprised
>well anon if something happens we'll just send you to fight them
And I have to say it feels pretty good. Of course the ONE area in which I can't seem to overcome this by just having heart is when it comes to women and that is the worst of all and I don't know how to fix it
> Of course the ONE area in which I can't seem to overcome this by just having heart is when it comes to women and that is the worst of all and I don't know how to fix it
Men are supposed to have heart with women, anon. They're softer, weaker and that heart is what makes us want to keep them safe. Same as a mother's softness towards her child.
By heart I just mean sheer determination, thats how I make up for being seen as a weak manlet. If something dangerous happens I'm there while others back off, because my will to prove myself outweighs my sense of self preservation pretty often. And to a surprising extent I have gained people's respect, including from women, but it doesn't actually make me attractive to them. The few who did show interest in me did so without even knowing me so I know it wasn't any of my actual good qualities they cared about (and they were basically all overweight which leads me to believe they thought I was the best they could do and that they'd have a chance at me, which they didn't, lol).
Anon is cool and all but I see him as a friend. Like nothing I could ever do would change that, at least that's how it feels to me
>By heart I just mean sheer determination, thats how I make up for being seen as a weak manlet.
You gotta get out of your head, dude. The Internet is not real, no one cares about the whole "manlet/chad" forced dichotomy irl. You don't have to push yourself, man. I get why you do but that sounds draining.
>(and they were basically all overweight which leads me to believe they thought I was the best they could do
You also have to remember that a lot of women are just fat. It's not a conspiracy, some fat women (like some thin women) are just more assertive than others.
>and that they'd have a chance at me, which they didn't, lol).
Incredibly based
IDK what I'm quoting to say. I guess just I'm sorry you feel like you gotta front so much. Hope you forget about that stuff, find a great hobby you love, and meet a girl you get along with and you have a mutual love for each other.
>You gotta get out of your head, dude. The Internet is not real
Actually I'd been at a point where I "realized" it didn't matter and was basically just an Internet thing. Back then I was in community college just working part time so I could go to college and I was a bit of a hermit just trying to get my work done. When I went to college and started being out there I was met with the harsh reality that they really do care, a lot, apparently. And that hurt a lot. I never asked anyone or anything but I'd overhear it and one time I even had to listen to it from someone I liked about how so and so is so tall and that's why she went out with him despite his having no other redeeming qualities. So unfortunately I have to say it's not just an internet thing.
>You also have to remember that a lot of women are just fat.
Yeah, it's a shame really. Guys are getting fat too, not as much but so many people are overweight these days.
>I guess just I'm sorry you feel like you gotta front so much.
Thanks anon, I never do dumb macho shit for no reason and I don't think I look like I'm overcompensating to people but I still have to try harder than most I think. Got hobbies I love and good friends it's just that one last piece that hurts honestly
Unironically this. I'm tall, amd everyone kind of expects me to win fights, to get the girls, etc. But when a tall guy is autistic as shit and doesn't talk to women, people are weirded out at how I could have all these things everyone wants, but still not make it. I can tell you, at the end of the day, there's so much more important things in dating and life than height.
All I can do is prove stereotypes right, and maybe live up to people's expectations. Short kinds cam fricking rage against the system, get everything in life despite it all, and spit in the faces of tall people by just smiling and being a bro while living better lives than them. Truly based.
Ben Shapiro is like 5' 3" and he's sucessful
>Be israeli
>Nepotism into media job
>Tell goys how to live their lives
Many such cases
Thanks man
its over hopefully ill die in my sleep
A lot of guys are like "what is the meaning of this? I will die soon".
The truth is you can only feel happiness and fulfilment as a man if you achieve something. You need to fight and make progress every day. Make gains, make money, expand social circle, travel around the world, explore all options.
Pills, therapy, porn, video games all those don't give you fulfilment, they just distract you from what you're supposed to do. So if you engage in these things in the back of your head you will still feel that depression and the sense of time running out.
Very true indeed. I've had to reach a certain age, step in certain dogshits to truly understand these words, but ultimately the life of men can be summarized like you've said.
Therapy doesnt work for men, because of this reason. Only moronic females get fullfillment from flapping their mouth. Men doesnt operate this way.
Dont get me wrong, self reflection and knowing oneself is very important to know whats important to you and what doesnt, but you dont need to pay same hack to do that.
There's some koan that goes:
As beginners mountains are mountains, and along the way mountains became ten thousand other things, but as a master mountains are mountains
dunning kruger stuff
it's literally this meme, smartypants
no it's not.
I agree with this but after living a very adventurous life (moving from country to country etc.) in my 20s I feel like saying one of the best things any man can do is caring for his family and loved ones; uplift those around you and don't become a footstool, it's a very difficult balance but like all beautiful things it's absolutely worth it. Money will come and leave, same with your social circle and, sadly, gains. Love is eternal, take care of your family and real bros, bros.
Yeah I think it all comes down to creation or at least cultivating some kind of achievement. I felt the most fulfillment in life when I had a clear goal and purpose to achieve.
>jacked off yesterday and today
>and today was to porn
there goes my 2 months streak
frick my life
also i think my cum is weird, it's kinda too thick, some of it looks like transparent small worms even, idk how to describe it
what the frick is that
it gets like that if you havent jerked off in a while, all fricked up and shit
maybe stop measuring your self discipline by this mundane loser shit and jerk off if you feel like it, but keep working towards actually important stuff
i don't want to feel like jerking off, ever
You shouldnt have been born a male then, deal with it
If you dont feel like wanting to frick the first decent looking female youve come across you have something wrong with you
no, fricking a woman is perfectly adequate, jacking off feels wrong
Jackin of is a surrogate activity until you have the opportunity to act on that carnal desire
The problem arises when you do nothing else and you succumb to more and more degenerate shit to jack off to to keep you interested
true enough, still, i'd rather not do it than do it
idk what came over me
What homie, shit builds up in you and distracts you from doing actually meaningful stuff, that's what
How about not fricking with yourself and just focusing on whats important?
You're fixing your brain just by abstaining from porn. You'll naturally not spend all day touching yourself. Just do it once or so a week. That's more discipline than this "streak" you end once and immediately go back to bad habits.
I'll be starting again today actually. The time has come. That lap pool won't know what hit it.
How does one beat analysis paralysis? Its rotting my brain out I can't point myself anywhere in what I want to do or be passionate about.
Dunno what you're talking about my man. Know thyself, and act accordingly. Dont make it dependent on others to figure out who you are. Frick standard stereotypes, and dont limit yourself to those
Analysis paralysis is just a symptom of overthinking. Personally I enjoy thinking but thinking is a double edged sword that you must master. You have to master your own thoughts and ascend above them and act accordingly. I’m not saying to go down a level to where you’d be an NPC just roaming around, but purposely choosing to not think. This is called living in the present. Typically you would “train” this by meditating— although that’s not the only way. I would start by just recognizing when you start thinking and catch yourself. You’ll find yourself coming back to the present and ultra self aware. The more you do this, the better you will get at being in the present which means you’ll not overthinking and therefore not get stuck in analysis paralysis.
Of course easier said than done, but I would recommend reading the book, “The Power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle.
mannnnn, all I need is just getting rid of my fapping addiction
Hey. You.
Give up.
It unironically becomes easy when you realize you will never be a normie. Only normies can experience things like friendships and having relationships. When you realize your parents are the only people who will ever care about you and you're unable to do things like get women it becomes so easy. I spent so long beating myself up and demoralizing myself on why I kept getting rejected and was unable to get a women, when, in reality, I was never supposed to live that life. I was able to focus on money and working on my body and life has never been easier since then. I don't have to worry about 1/2th the shit people have to worry about daily.
>Dad told me to take care of myself because no one else cares
>Mom left home when I was a kid without saying goodbye
>Dad told me not to kill myself until after he dies
Yeah..
Hows your mental health anon? You went through some serious shit
I haven't considered cutting my dick off or killing myself so I'm doing better than most zoomers I guess. Definitely won't ever be able to take the normie pill though. Not an alcoholic/drug abuser anymore but I've fricked dozens of holes and will never get married or have kids. Dunno why I haven't started roiding yet other than not having a reliable connection
>I haven't considered cutting my dick off or killing myself so I'm doing better than most zoomers I guess.
unintentional hard kek. just puts it all in perspective huh.
We care for you, pal.
Based dad.
He is a fat diabetic moron that lives alone and eats pop tarts for breakfast. There is nothing based about him
>can't make friends
>can't get a woman
>n-no! I was just never meant to, that's all!
Unironic cope in its purest form.
I have friends, but they're all normies and we have little in common. They are all nice to me, but it's precisely how nice people are that often leave me wondering if it wouldn't offer me some relief to have no one at all. Most of the time, I feel like I'm merely humoring their well-intended platitudes. Like I'm taking time out of my day to let others feel good about trying to make me feel good by involving me in their lives.
Though it is well-meant, in a way it feels like an insult when friends try to relate to me in a way usually reserved for children. "So, anon. You played any cool video games lately," one might offer after an hour of me just sitting there, a mere spectator to the "grown ups" talking about adult things.
>Like I'm taking time out of my day to let others feel good about trying to make me feel good by involving me in their lives.
Anon at best you're overthinking things, and at worst you're turning yourself into a charity case in your own mind.
If you have normie friends, then that means you have the opportunity to learn how people actually interact, if that's what you really want (and I grant you, if).
Like, you said yourself you'll just sit there for an hour and contribute nothing to the group conversation. They are being nice, by trying to relate to you regarding one of the only things you've probably indicated you care about. Have you done the same for them?
You could say this anon is "coping", but he definitely improved his life using the right mind-set. Even tho I think that everyone can fall in love and have a good releationship, I think he is in the right path.
Is it cope, or accepting the truth based on lived experience
its cope. its basically saying if you lose a game once you should never practice or play again
I won’t, brother
I need to try
I can't use the gym wifi because it somehow got range banned.
Stupid capcha mistyping deletes my pic.
someone was shitposting in your gym
shitposting at the gym is the exact opposite of being one of the instathots at the gym
>mommy asmr yt channel i liked is dead
It's weird.. you don't feel depression if you live healthy (carnivore, exercise, no FAP) even if your life suck.
At worst you feel kinda down for a short time (like now) and the next day you feel ready to fight again.
>36 khv, no job, no friends, no gf, still failing at college, fat, ugly, broke, with debt whos cat is hurt and mom health is deteriorating.
I hope mom and cat get better
Me too anon. Me too.
Youre all like 18 - 22
Wait til 30s depression hits your homosexual pics wont mean shit
I'm in my 30s and I've never felt better.
Already working towards making sure 2024 is my year
WAGMI
the craft to add the ifunny
For the first time in a long time I kinda want to give up..
We all have limits.
I feel like I'm stagnating. I really want to quit my job and dump my gf and do something else with my life. I make good money in a depressing drone job and live with my increasingly obese gf who will suck my dick a couple times a week in exchange for me having to deal with her having a mental health crisis over nothing every 3 days.
I'm complacent but not happy. I need some push telling me I can do better. I worked hard to get even here but I've grown so much as a person since this life started.
if you don’t have children then you are in no way bound or obligated to do anything for anyone. maybe if your relationship is good with your parents or other close family, you can feel a sense of duty to help them if they are struggling, but otherwise you have zero obligation to wear the albatross of a “successful” or stable life. you should be taking risks and exploring and failing so miserably that you must begin all over again naked and afraid like you just woke up in valheim. God has given you a sound mind and able body, use them to try as many new things and places and people as possible until you find the things and place and person you want to end up with, then have a bunch of white children, then help as many people around you as possible, and then die.
Make a list of things (people, objects, circumstances) that cause you the most unneeded stress in your life. Eliminate those things, even if its painful in the short term, like a potential break-up with your girlfriend.
Once you complete that, then write out a description of how you want your life to ideally look like in a year where you will be happy and content. Then make a list of actionable things you could do to starting now to make that life a reality in a year.
Guys I lost her. I gave my energy and love and time and money to her and I still couldn't keep her. I'm defeated and devastated. I feel like I haven't even begun to process the weight of this I think I'm still in denial. I don't want to be alone during the holidays bros. Someone tell me it's going to be okay
kill her
It will be okay, but you gotta lift iron brah
It's okay to feel sad just make sure you still do the things you know are good for you. Take walks, get to the gym, hang out with friends. You'll make it through, it sucks real bad and after a while it sucks less and then it just doesn't suck anymore.
a rock on the path doesn't mean failure, keeping going
Once you will cool down, look back at what you did wrong with a clear mind and LEARN from the expierence.
Please, do not get stuck in the Oneitis grief phase, or fall for the hatefull incell mentality. There is nothing more cringe and pathetic on this gay planet than that.
I personally would also argue againts excessive fall into one night stands, whatever the confidence boosts that might be. At least I did not enjoy the feeling like a manprostitute afterwards (but that might be a skill issue).
You will find someone new, dont worry too much about it. Just screen and select them better next time.
Value yourself and dont be a simp. Good luck.
I started lifting for women. It was stupid, because women will never like me. Just don't have the genetics. But I found peace in exercise, I can try and look good body wise and feel healthier
>ifunny
Idk man. just got a will prepared
We've all been there or at other dark places.
Hang in there, there is nothing you can't do or achieve if you try over and over again.
I believe in you bro!
What's your stats/routine? Not bad body wise
I won’t quit! Sometimes it’s really hard and sometimes I want to give up. But I will never give up!
Thanks, needed that one.
Yessir
>lifting for girls
jesus christ you gays need to get a grip
do things to do them not just to get pussy
Thanks bro. xoxo
I just wanna have many sex with many average women and spend the least ammount of money in the process, I don't have any other goal but it's hard anyway, need to get more fit and beautiful, have better skin maybe, be more interesting.
>I just wanna have many sex with many average women and spend the least ammount of money in the process,
Get in shape, take some good pics shirtless if you're low bf, install dating app, right swipe all women, upfront ask every woman who looks remotely frickable to you if they want to hook up. Meet up with the ones who are 100% dtf immediately, ignore all of the "lol lets meet for a drink first" or "maybe :)" ones, they're not committed to it. That's all it takes.
>upfront ask every woman who looks remotely frickable to you if they want to hook up
how many messages would you spend to word this to them? Seems like you'd get such a low turnout rate compared to just going for the simple drink date, then hookup on date 2
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Frick this, fricking stupid world everything is too complicated I just want a fricking clear goal FUUUUUUUUUACKKKKKKKKKCUJNNNNNTTT
thanks im not givin up
>they are afraid of "giving up"
you are supposed to live it, otherwise you are destined to lose it anyway so why are you even bothering
I want to give up. Today was tough I d9nt think it should have been. Nothing really happened. Even when I was rejected by a woman I really wanted to be with I didn't feel so bad.
I didn't give up. I ate more than I planned to but I still went to the gym. Went everyday I planned to. I dont really feel like I'm progressing or feel good. Even when I have real progress.
Ngl a lot of posts on here are very demoralizing. I think it might be best to avoid this place but everywhere else is gay.
what keeps me going is thinking what i could look like if i got ripped. i'd be objectively above average. women have already told me my face is handsome in the past. doesnt happen all the time but its happened more than once, so i want to maximize my body and fitness potential as well and reach the peak level of attractiveness i am capable of
I might aswell quit.
I dislocated my shoulder two weeks ago and now I'm afraid it won't ever be the same
idk man
>recently having a very hard time being sober
>gf i was infatuated with and i won't/can't ever talk to each other again
>have been with other girls since then and am still a sex haver but i really miss her and can't stand i let her go and now some other guy is going to get to have her
>caused a lot of suffering to people i cared about
>pretty sure my friends never want to see me again
>almost lost my job, have a terrible undeserved reputation now that I can't defend against because someone who hated me lied about me behind my back
i really miss my old self and am trying so hard to get back to that but i am so quick to lash out at people now
i let the bad things that happened turn me bitter but i'm aware of it enough to try reversing it at least