>his job isn't labor intensive enough he has to go to the gym to make up for it
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labor work and gym is for slaves
>he destroys his body making money for shareholders
>his job could be replaced by a sufficiently complex chatbot
>his is currently being replaced by robots as we speak
>>his is currently being replaced by robots as we speak
Damn... I wish I was being replaced by robots; that would be sweet. No, I'm being replaced by Indians.
most rigs are top drive systems now so its not as harsh.
to each his own but office work drove me crazy.
>to each his own but office work drove me crazy.
that's because you were a fake ADHD kid who's actually just dumb
Still mostly Kellys around where I'm at. Shallow wells and plenty of tweakers to drill
A desk job has destroyed more bodies than an active job.
it only destroys your body if you're a complete npc slob who does 0 exercise and eats like shit outside of work
>Gotta have some Starbies before starting work 🙂
>Ugh Anon, you have such great genetics to show up and eat a big meal everyday and not gain weight
I hate my dumbass coworker.
Surely you can invest that money in the company you work for.
A job where you receiving stock as compensation would be best.
Das rite
I'm sitting on my ass all day in an air conditioned office and get paid more than people who actually bust their asses off at work
It's funny when I had contractors come fix shit at my house. I literaly spend the day on IST while they are working their ass off for me.
WFH chads keep winning.
Known concrete workers oil rig workers landscape installers ect ECT and plenty lift weights. You're just a sissy.
concrete work is not hard work
Depends. Flatwork is somewhat cake.
Commercial vertical concrete is not easy. Especially on the West Coast where the rebar is insane. There is a reason the union halls still can't fill jobs at $65/hr starting.....
Its not the placing of the concrete or the finishing, that is all done by pumps / buckets. Its the formwork installation, stripping and making shit fit when it doesn't want to.
The boys in downtown Chicago working highrise are not peeps you want to fight. Trust me on this.
yea but those guys aren't even concrete workers, they are dedicated steel guys or carpenters
Ok dude. Go to any concrete company and the vast majority of the labor is in the formwork. Again, I'm not talking about the swamp Black person who fixed the sidewalk in front of your house. I am talking about the concrete companies pouring 4-5000 yd3 a week.
The placing and finishing guys are small minority who cycle around jobsites. They are important but the carpenters and iron workers do the work. These are the actual "concrete guys" in any concrete company. Your statement "concrete workers, they are dedicated steel guys or carpenters" is ttrue, buts it a difference without a distinction.
Its like saying an Account Executive for Salesforce doesn't work in tech because its sales.
>Ok dude. Go to any concrete company and the vast majority of the labor is in the formwork.
Lol Black person the labor is mucking in industrial sized floors for an entire day up to your knees or working residential and wheeling wheel barrows around full of concrete all day.
Again. Thats a small shit segment of the concrete industry. Go check out the websites of Baker Concrete, McHugh or Conco to see how many use wheelbarrows bro.
>Mucking is a small segment of concrete
Are you moronic
Well any decent sized pour isn't hiring mexicans to push wheel barrows, they'll get a pump
>Decent sized pours
>Residential
A lot of wheelbarrowing but not enough mud to hire a pump.
then use a skidsteer to move it
Or its a driveway/porch and the truck can directly pour
Anon there are so many places in residential concrete work your not getting a skid back to. Anyway, carpentry and hammering large nails into pre drilled holes is nothing compared to mucking or hauling wheelbarrows or digging manually.
Yea ok so you are talking about cheap contractors that hire mexicans to do labor?
An hour of pushing a wheel barrow then spend the rest of the day finishing isn't hard work
It's actual labor compared to carpentry
Unlike you I've worked in the concrete industry and residential isn't as small of an industry as you might think. And when I'm talking about mucking I'm not talking about a small slab but a big floor.
I've worked in the concrete industry for 20 years. USA, Canada and Europe. Residential market isn't small and I never said it was. See pic. I'm just saying the majority of value-add comes from the commerical / industrial guys. Don't even get me started on Europe where precast is like 30-40% of the market because of automation and european buyers (unlike Americans) actually care how the concrete looks in the end.
Any large residential producer doing large slab pours is NOT USING MEXICANS AND WHEELBARROWS. If you say otherwise you are lying. They will have pumps, a surveyor, guy holding the hose, and a couple of floating laborers. The finishing crew will follow a few minutes back, level out the low spots, throw down finsihing compounds and drop on the helicopters when ready. Its not fricking wheelbarrows. Most residential guys will hire commercial contractors to do their large pours. If you say otherwise you are lying. Pulte, Beazer, etc. are always squeezing their subs hard and no way no fricking how are they going to Home Depot to pick up a bunch of mexicans and wheelbarrows over a hard bid to a CC. You are just wrong if you say otherwise.
The real physical and hard labor comes from the vertical, elevated slabs and columns of which I linked a study prooving it.
>Any large residential producer
Most residential companies are small and the big ones move on to industrial because it's better money
Exactly my point. A single luxury home builder will use Mexicans and wheelbarrows because a pump doesn't make sense for a 10,000 SF 5" slab pour. Thats like 3 cu.yds of concrete with waste (1/3 of a fricking concrete mixer truck) on a single slab.
Commercial Black folk pour like 5,000 yd3 in a week on a single jobs foundation. Pic related is a job I worked on that poured 10,000 yd3 a week for 3 weeks just in the foundations. Fab 42 Intel Chandler, AZ. Not a single wheelbarrow was used on the pour I fricking promise you.
*wrong math its 15 trucks (160yds3). I typod it. 15 trucks. Scale of comparison is the same.
I'm a PM that spent most of my youth doing residential electrical project management. My company has expanded quite a bit over the years and now we're doing a shit ton more commercial work. It's a completely different world. Got any tips for how to navigate this new environment?
I dont really have any insight that you probably dont already know. A good PM in one trade can usually move to another if your discipline is good. Most PMs I know who fricked up did so because they got lazy, didnt understand the estimator, etc.
For commercial concrete, the successful contractors sell on schedule not on price. Meaning the ability to knock 3 weeks of the schedule is WAY more important to the owners than being the cheapest.
Superintendents have by far the most impact on a successful project for a PM so make sure you communicate well with him. If hes incompetent you NEED to get ownership involved early. Cant tell you how many jobs ended poorly for the contractor when a bad superintendent got let go very late in the project.
Lastly, as the PM the full lifecycle cost of the project is the most important thing, and you and the ownership are the only ones who care. If the super makes all his pours, but 4 months later there are cracks because the concrete was bad and nobody checked at the time, guess who gets blamed.
I have a lot of experience but its all abstract related.
In residential It's almost always price first and scheduling second for most people. In commercial I'm definitely seeing fewer complaints about price and more about when can things get started. I appreciate your input fren! Here's a picture of my goofy cat for payment.
This guy clearly thinks the concrete industry is just a bunch of mexicans pouring shitty 5" crack prone C25 slabs for California ghettos. You can't convince him otherwise.
Yes there are guys mucking on the slabs, but these guys are so good at it, they can do 2-3 slabs a day with a 5-6 man crew. Crew workers all get paid $70+/hr plus benefits.
This is the ACTUAL concrete industry:
https://mchughconstruction.com/
https://bakerconstruction.com/contact-us/
High end commercial work is certainly not the majority of concrete work either
These sorts of crews have dedicated people doing wood work and steel work too, and too many overpaid suits wandering around
Guarantee this guy lives in Texas where they can get away with this due to the armies of illegal exploitable labor.
I'm literally getting paid to sit off camera on a meeting while I browse IST right now. Then I'll go lift hard after work. Life is good.
Based. I'm a technician and I'm fricking around till a meeting in an hour, then I'll walk around and go home 2 hours early.
What is a “technician”
not a tradesperson labourer and not an engineer. kind of in the middle where i do field and office work
It's slang for a male prositute who satisfies fat and old rich ladies
The only people saying this shit are dyel boomers who cuck to their own wives and never were fit enough to feel mired in their lives.
>Get test gains from bossing around menials and their managers
>Go home and enjoy a proper meal
>Work out
>Play with the kids and put them to bed
>Plow my wife
>Sleep well knowing I am not an IT pajeet or Zoom office jockey
>has to bully others to feel like a strong boy
this is giving 5' 8" energy anon
Is this supposed to be a description of a blue collar or white collar job? It kind of sounds like both.
why are you bragging about being a slave? you have any idea how moronic you sound?
I literally get paid 40 an hour to do nothing but sit around, imagine actually busting your ass at work lmao
$40? Wow, is that a lot in American?
They pay me 8 hours a day but I work 4~6 hours every day
That's literally everyone. Nobody actually works the whole 8 hours
Good job breaking your back so I got warm water at home, wagie.
I make 160k per year, from home, and maybe put in 1 to 2 hours of actual focused work a day at most. You can keep your 'manly' job, because while I'm sitting at home, taking a break and watching a 2 hour movie at 10 AM, I make more in those 2 hours than you make in a whole day busting your hump.
Its not because I'm lazy, which you'll accuse me of to make yourself feel better, its because my economic output is exponentially higher than a day laborer. I have a much higher productive capacity.
What do you do?
He’s an unemployed teenager who lives with his parents but he is enrolled in an IT degree and LARPs on IST as a WFH richgay because that’s what he thinks he’ll become when he graduates.
Little does he know he’ll spent 6-12 months after graduation desperately searching for jobs until he ends up getting some complete shit $44k job in a basement office somewhere for which he has to drive 2hrs each day
>he'll spent
saar
esl third worlders should not talk about first world employment
>Makes one minor grammatical mistake on a larp forum
>ESL! ESL! ESL!
I get that he made you upset with his comment but when you try and defend your ego in this pathetic manner it makes you look even more upset.
sir please do not redeem
there are legitimately wfh jobs that make this much but I kinda doubt this guy has one.
My wife has one and she works like 70-80 hours a week running a global team. Yeah she can get an hour off in the middle of the day but she’s also waking up at 4 am to talk to Europe and then staying awake until 10 pm on calls with China. She made about 170k last year and she fricking hates it.
>woman in charge of a global team
nice larp incel
I don't have any resentment for your position. I just think you're smart with you ability to make money.These blokes who think "oh I better bust my ass to an early grave for Mr Sheklestein to reward me", are really deluding themselves. I look for easy elements wherever I work. Only dipshits and women think that you HAVE to work those entire 8-12 hours.
Just now replying to this because I only browse IST during the work day. Since you're a loser NEET, you assume everyone else on IST is a loser NEET. Do you realize that a lot of the nerdy sperg teenagers who were on this site in the 2000's probably have pretty high paying jobs now in STEM?
Cybersecurity engineer (software dev with emphasis on security) for 10 years. I could make $20-40k more at other companies but 160k is reasonable for me and the company I work for is very flexible on work/life balance, which is important to me in my 30's.
I agree. Results are what matters, not having your ass in a seat for 8 hours. Clock punchers don't understand this.
>Do you realize that a lot of the nerdy sperg teenagers who were on this site in the 2000's probably have pretty high paying jobs now in STEM?
the majority of them almost guaranteed do not. congrats if you actually do have a decent wfh gig, shame about your small dick however
Based. I make $150k to $160k a year working from home. Sales Engineer for manufacturing. I do have to travel one week a month, but my territory is large and I have little management oversight on this. I can book whatever hotels / flights I like with personal credit card and get all the points. I try to see the USA / Canada on the company expense as best I can. Was in Charleston, SC last week and I thought it was awesome.
The truth is I am not lucky. I was a good engineer for the company who also made an effort to get along with all my coworkers AND the clients, who can sometimes be difficult. The last guys who did this job was some prickly German control freak who got fired because he was an butthole to everybody.
My boss keeps giving me glowing performance reviews despite the fact I slack a lot, just because I make an effort to get along AND have high technical knowledge of our products.
Its amazing to me how few engineers actually understand how people work and how to influence people with basic manners, and take important clients to dinners and have them enjoy your company. The world is wide open for people like me.
The reason
is bitter is because these zoomers were raised by Andrew Tate and think engagement farming is the way you get ahead in the world. Sad!
>posting an entire essay about your job
It’s so sad how autistic engineers entire personality and meaning of life is their careers and salaries
Whatevs. I have a wife and 3 kids. Beautiful house. Speak 3 languages. Lived in South Africa, Germany, Italy, California and Vancouver. I have a great life, and have tasted the Dornishmans wife.
You tradies are just bitter because you treat everyone like shit and have no manners so the powers that be dont allow you to elevate yourself. Don't worry Hustlers U will pay off in time bro! Just get another neck tattoo!!
Sick larp
>160k is a substantial amount of money
I love when IT gays boast about their salary. That's not even entry level in big law lmao
Being a lawyer sucks so thats why you get paid so much. A good hooker makes way more than both of us but I don't want her job either. I'm glad you start at $600k out of college. Its part of being the most ill-thought of profession in humanity for all time.
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Pic related is you.
kek funny shit...my background is in journalism and I don't agonize over that shit because I can actually write
Hitting your min billable legitimately isn't an issue if you just get good
>I make 160k per year
>160k
I remember my first part-time job!
go back to your email verified board
Why don't you go back to Walmart, your food stamps have arrived!
>160k a year
Lol. Lmao, even
You dont sound very happy in life if you need an essay to explain yourself
Can you hire me?
I don’t want my job to be labour intensive
Real talk how long do oil bros have till their business shuts down due to renewable energy homosexuals?
Watched a talk by Mark Blyth an international economist a few years back. I think it was 2017. In the Q&A he basically said that the US economic model is shifting and it's uncertain which direction. Either they double down into carbon and lose geopolitical and economic relevance slowly or they make the massive effort of switching to green energy and secures those resources through geopolitical influence. My retelling.
So if he's right renewable energy might take a really long time depending on how elections go. But that was pre-2020, Trumps down in polling and has less power than ever to influence.
Blyth also wrote a book called "Global Trumpism" which explores populism. So there's at least bias in terms of having come to fossil fuel adverse conclusions before.
I respect his predictive power though. He's been solid.
c**t sounds like a fricking idiot and so do you. Jfc.
You're making an error. You can't tell that from this. But you're free not to listen of course. I don't know the answer either.
I do believe it'll be extreme though.
You're just saying that based on support of renewable energy? It obviously is the case that tons of people believe in climate change and that renewable are a good solution. Can't judge if he's a grifter. I mean I don't know either. I'm generally distrusting of people who get invited to speak at universities. But the assumption seems extreme.
The only reason I've followed this guy is because he's not a fan of Democrats or Republicans in the US pre-election and addressed the global trend of populism back then rather than all the Trump panic. He convinced his female co-host of a podcast he does that dems are just as big bullshitters as populists are. I'm not suggesting neutrality at all. Just that it's very hard to find anything that isn't explicitly partisan in US politics coverage. And a background in international macro economics is more relevant content for me.
This is so far OT now I'm quitting.
Peak oil never happened and we won't see it for a very long time. It's more affordable, easier to produce, gives more power and 99% of the planet is dependent on it. It won't be going anywhere.
It's like controlling Spice, and stopping Ix from making synthetic shit spice alternatives.
>It obviously is the case that tons of people believe in climate change and that renewable are a good solution.
Yeah, of course morons believe in climate change en masse. And no, people who actually think and have brains have seen, actually WITNESSED the failure that is, renewable energy. So NOOO. It's not a good solution. It's pretty much a terrible solution that's a side grade that still requires fossil fuels to operate, and avoids the real solution nuclear. Anyone not pushing that is honestly a compete moron like you.
Sounds like a grifter or someone that's just parroting what the money lenders say, solar panels and wind turbines are a total scam for what you get
wind is a scam, solar is better than anything else nowadays
How is solar better than gas turbines or nuclear plants. You don't see solar panels being used to power the machinery needed to mine and refine the materials used to make the panels themselves and it's just not feasible for locations that don't receive that much sunlight throughout the year.
noone lives in places with no sunlight and you can run power lines with minimal losses
nuclear power has been essentially banned by the government for 50 years now, its done
whether you're shilling for wind, shilling for solar, shilling for oil, or shilling for coal, you're still shilling. just pick one to shill and chill.
Well you're going to need crude oil always it seems, even in the manufacturing of these fancy new 'green' toys so I guess the safest bet is to shill that.
Renewables are not a good solution though, they're shit. It's just another script for people to repeat on the news for the dumb dumbs and a lucrative money venture for those in control. You only have to look at the amount of CO2 released in the mining, refining and manufacturing processes of these things and then see how inefficient they are. I live next to one of the largest wind farms in my country, it's so shit that a new gas turbine plant is now being built to take over the brunt off the energy demands.
Yes people do live in places with insufficient levels of sunlight which is why when the government grants have dried up and the money has been made, people's energy prices go up and they either have to reopen old plants or build new gas turbine plants.
solar is cheaper and doesn't require fuel
It also works during the day which is when there is greatest power usage
Wind is a scam to kill all large birds on the planet
Solar is never going to power a city in Scandinavia for example, especially after dark no matter how many batteries banks you create. It cannot meet current demands, it will not meet future demands and will only ever by supplemental.
lucky the scandis have wild amounts of geothermal, hydropower and offshore wind eh.
>offshore wind
kek it's not enough you have to shill these shitty things you need to put them in places where they can disrupt animals that rely on sonar navigation
pic related
>you need to put them in places where they can disrupt animals that rely on sonar navigation
you really want to argue cost/benefit on offshore wind vs hydrocarbons? how much disruption do you think a fuel tanker causes, let alone when it accidentally dumps 50,000 gallons of crude into the ocean?
You think crude oil is going away because you put up some turbines? Crude oil is used in the mining and refining process of turbines and solar panels. What do you think makes your precious plastic?
>You think crude oil is going away because you put up some turbines?
no
Crude oil is used in the mining and refining process of turbines and solar panels. What do you think makes your precious plastic?
hydrocarbons
i assume you think i'm some other anon, i was the anon that pointed out that scandis don't have to rely on solar for renewable sources of energy
haha yeah
>where they can disrupt animals that rely on sonar navigation
ever heard of submarines?
Luckily the energy in Norway is expensive as frick because our globalist politicians sold us out to the EU.
That's really sad, hopefully they get lynched at some point
>The EU and globohomosexual is why norwegian electrical companies can export power
pretty sure its still cheaper than anywhere in the EU all the while you still have higher wages than almost every EU country
not gonna disagree that the EU sucks though
>eh
Are you a kiwi or canadian?
scandi's are an irrelevant tiny country, they could easily power themselves from solar in Turkey or whatever good location exists
Based fellow Blyth enjoyer.
What I remember is that Blyth often talks about how people who try to make the green transition in USA happen, tend to just gloss over the fact, that for many US states a very important part of their economy are carbon related activities.
Purely based on this, its safe to assume that any sort of attempts to cease carbon intense industries will be strongly resisted, because it is literally putting people livelihoods on the line.
I do think that green energy will take much more prominent role in energy production, but I doubt it that this will happen as soon as some believe. There are just way too many people who rely on oil industry and they have plenty of money for lobbying and a very strong interest to delay it for as long as possible.
Well he's a midwit and therefore has nothing relevant to say and repeats hot takes he heard from other midwits that match his midwit level.
The real answer is in nuclear energy but nobody wants to do that because of oil/renewable energy lobbyists and also people are scared because a nuclear reactor using a flawed design blew up sixty years ago in russia
>""""renewable"""" energy
The oil is renewable though, the oil bros are just closely metering the supply to stay on top.
>completely destroy your joints permanently for less pay than me
uuuuh
this isnt the flex you think it is lol
Thinking about stopping going to work.
I've been working there for years now but I think it might be time to stop soon. It just doesn't do it for me anymore, it's not really helping me in any way. I don't get any benefits, hasn't helped me with women, or with meeting new people and it's barely enough money at the end of the month. I'm not getting any joy out of it anymore like I used to. It also eats up too much of my time.
So yeah after waging for many years, on and off I admit, it might be time to finally call it quits and move on with my life, so my new years resolution was to quit work and just frick everything. I won't be paying any more bills, taxes, utilities, fines, groceries or any other financial obligations. Just not going to participate anymore that's all.
>he isn't working out to make his labor-intensive job easier and safer in the long run
How do I get a white collar job with no degree? My father wants me to go into construction like him but after seeing him having to wake up at 4 AM and coming home tired everyday I don't want to do that. Call me soft but I don't care
just
get a
degree
how hard can it be
I'm too poor to go to college, I'm already working 7 days a week
>Works 7 days a week
Id rather wake up 4am 6 days a week. Do you not work full time hours,?
It's part time as a school aid and day care on the weekends. I make about 25k every year
I'm hoping to get a municipal job for a local town so I can work close to home, looking at labor for public works and then hopefully moving up
Imo part time sucks worse getting out of bed for like a measly 4 hour shift. May as well stay at home.
Working during the day and taking morning and night classes at an affordable college is what I did. Yeah it sucks, but its worth it in the end.
Construction management degree. I tell your dad what to do 🙂
Start in construction, learn the trade while saving and investing like an autist, use that to secure a loan to start your own business.
My dad worked from age 18-30 in timberframing. Then he started his own timber framing business, went 500k into debt to do so. Now he is 63 and his company is worth around 18mil. He has invested in property, art, and tech stocks his whole life, and is a boomer, so his net worth is around 400mil rn.
The only way into a white collar position without a degree is to start the business yourself.
My dads "work" days are going into the office, bringing the mail in, checking in with his management, then going to one of the few resteraunts that he owns (cooking was always his passion) to smoke weed and eat free food until around 3pm when he comes home and hangs out with his buddies. Rough life.
>IST dentalgay
>30 hour workweek while making 4x of your average blue collar wagie
>mog everyone socially, economically and aesthetically
I work a labor job 12hrs 4x a week and manage my 30 acre farm in my spare time.
This isn't enough to have a great body. I am strong, sure, but if you want the ideal body, you will need to lift and eat properly regardless.
Why do you think most laborers are either beer gutted ogres or think Guatemalans.
Shit tier b8. You’re not fooling anyone anon
Everyone on IST is a barely working work rom home millionaire software engineer, it’s crazy
umm I prefer my job to work my mind
t. Attorney
nothing says succesful like trying to convince others that you are
On an anonymous basketweaving forum? I know people do, but why lie?
I'm immune to the "manual labor good" meme because U've worked a a labourer
...and having essentially 4 hour days while wfh is so much better it's unreal. You can have life outside of work and it's not just 4 hours.
Also making 3-5 times national average (in EU) is literally winning life. It's impossible to ignore.
I'm so insanely grateful for being born in this day and age. Working from anywhere in EU on your fricking laptop is unparalleled. Unless you're a really smart guy and manage to make your money work for you at some point.
What's your point dude? The average fitizen does not have the ability the get such a job, so the actual choice is between spending 8 hours in front of a desk or making your pay being outside and using your body. Don't see why I should choose the former.
>have white collar job
>destroy your body by sitting all day
>have blue collar job
>destroy your body by performing manual labor all day
what's the solution?
Lifting.
>white collar 8 hours of sitting job destroys your body
what fricking homosexual literally kys
Sitting all day is not good for you, and your terrible slouched gamer posture is proof of that.
>Sitting all day is not good for you
all bad effects of a sedentary job are easily negated by simply doing basic exercise and some stretching, literally just don't be a fricking couch potato dyel slob
Sitting down for hours in end is very bad fit your cardiovascular system
>destroying your body for 80 hours per week at the poop mines so that the managers can get bigger bonuses
Almost all rig hands I know lift to be better at their job.
I can't casually talk about my fricking hobby of lifting anymore without some man titty homosexual chiming in "I dug a hole for an hour yesterday" cool Black person I deadlifted 2x your bodyweight for reps on fricking chest day
SHUT THE FRICK UP
So sick of these fricking homosexualS
>I work harder AND get paid less than you
FRICK OFF moron
>being tired from doing the same repetitive movement for 8+ hours makes you stronger everywhere
The cope of the gay who thinks his job makes him strong is very sad.
>Lifting heavy things for an hour makes you strong
>Noooooo you can't lift things for hours and get stronger that's impossible!
Obviously manual labour can and does make you strong but it cannot replace lifting. Manual labour will often give you the ability to pick up and lift akward weights in akward ways, so it gives this unconvential farmer strength, which the typical lifting routine won't give you. Another aspect is that lifting for even 2h a day cannot make up for what you do the rest 22, which is going to be sedentary for the modern man. Constantly moving throughout the day, the ability to keep up physical excersion for hours, these are valuable skills. Old school strongmen and bodybuilders of the vaudeville era back when manual labour was the norm looked at white collar workers as sort of handicapped, who needed to be treated with extra care to build up that capacity. However, on the flipside, to actually incur adaptation in our bodies, we need to push it to its limit. You need to go to muscular failure. You need to isolate muscles and movement patterns. Manual labour does not care about your physical development. You're there to get things done, and you're going to do things in the way that saves the most energy, and if a certain muscle group is neglected, so be it. These two things have two entierly different goals and thus cannot truly be compared. They're different things, one is training the other is working, each have their own place.
I literally do work on an oil rig, and I’ll tell you the guys who workout outside of work have more energy and get way less injuries than the guys who don’t
>blue collar jobs
fat boomers
>white collar jobs
out of shape neckbeards
>work in forestry
>half the young guys and most of the healthy older guys also work out
>transition to merchant navy
>every ship, by law, has a gym which gets used by most crew
>go on internet
>fat b***hes on tiktok and 14 year olds crying about muh manual labour and muh real muscle
lol
>exposing yourself to the same junk volume over and over again with no progressive overload then consuming drugs and alcohol to cope with it
>junk volume
post body
nobody who says this has a muscular build
I have done a lot of hard physical labor and still did exercise to supplement it. If your job involves a lot of heavy lifting you can get a lot of gains by pushing yourself. I've gotten a lot of gains from things like shoveling coal, loading and unloading trucks, building homes, and so on. Sometimes I would work out in the morning as well and always have a lot of protein for dinner.
Some particularly difficult jobs will get you jacked if you really push yourself. For me, I enjoy the heavy lifting and the physical challenge, it gets my heart pumping and makes you stronger. Have worked desk jobs, even remote work, and just exercise in the mornings or after work.
i remember even when working labour jobs, i would still wake up early at 5:00am to hit the gym before work. made no gains at all though because it was nearly impossible to eat that much food for my metabolism.
Good goy