its fricking OVER for mentzercels.
goodbye! dont come back!
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HIT is retarded
its fricking OVER for mentzercels.
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An expose on the Colorado experiment. He said that Casey went from 12% to 2% body fat, but that is clearly not the body of someone with 2% body fat. This means that Arthur lied about the results of the experiment.
and mentzer either believed this shit and is therefore a mental invalid who shouldnt be listened to or he knew better and decided to grift anyway. In any case anybody who ever cited mentzer is an imbecile.
Or the university doing the measurements fricked up? We should talk about radio-isotope bodyfat testing, this is the only time I've heard about it being used.
Ronnie Coleman said he was negative 2% bodyfat so maybe.
There is nothing better to guess bodyfat than a trained eye and a pair of hands. All those scientific machines to guess bodyfat lamentably fail
You know to be honest with you guys.
I really don't care anymore about any of this, I just want to lift.
Escape
you WILL form the opinion. you WILL write the post.
>verif not required
Shut up. You have biases with lifting. Don't come at us with the "I'm enlightened middle ground guy" you probably care the most. You're just mad you feel dumb.
it's just promoted by morons who did their npc 3x10 and never went to failure who finally started training to failure and were like >waow hit so good but you can do both volume and go to failure
The logic is indisputable and the proof is in the pudding.
volumegays in full panic mode because they might be faced with a fact the time investment they made in the gym might've been a waste of time
I don't see a fundamental difference in Jones lying for HIT and Wieder lying for volume and endless time and supplements. Them overstating and overselling results on heavily roided test subjects should surprise no one. At base one promises solid gains with less time and CNS investment, and the results are there for those who have successfully implemented some of the core principles of HIT. It's much easier to cut bodyfat with HIT and more time for cardio.
It's really that simple. All the people I've seen criticize HIT look like absolute shit or are professional /fraud/s trying to sell me more bullshit that I don't need. Fitness doesn't need to be a surrogate activity, that is the fundamental principle of HIT.
>time investment
So basically you have no gym bros and actually hate going to the gym so much you want to speed run your visits.
>invalidates thread
Who cares about the Colorado experiment? A detrained roid user regained a bunch of muscle very quickly, so what? It neither proves nor disproves HIT, and has nothing to do with you or me or anyone else here.
mentzergays are obviously just following what they see on youtube shorts/instagram reels
It's tiktok for me
>work out approximately 2 times a week
>do one set to failure and myoreps on each exercise
>each workout lasts a little shy of 1 hour, often less
>get better gains than on volume routines if you're natty because you have more time to rest (which is arguably the most important factor for hypertrophy)
>no tendonitis or overuse injuries because you give your connective tissue enough time to recover between workouts
>more time to do everything else, let's say light impact cardio for your health if we want to keep it fitness related
why does this concept make so many people on IST furious?
For me, it's two sets. I highly recommend this to anyone combining HIT principles and training with any kind of free weights. Best way to avoid snap city and meet other goals. The first set is about 50-75% of what I can complete in 6-12 reps, this is for a few reasons. Also i'll go way above that rep range if the exercise is freehand, such as dips, pullups, leg lifts, etc. This first set acts as a primer to check form and energy mainly. The final set is the most weight I can successfully complete 6-12 reps to trve failure with perfect form.
I still look like shit imo, too fat, but I haven't looked great since like my early 20's when I was still an athlete with trainers and etc. But I will say I feel much better than any point since then and am finally making progress, getting mires again even. Mike also used two sets in some of his HIT programs, I also noticed he used two sets especially those programs where he more relied on barbells rather than machines.
>why does this concept make so many people on IST furious?
I have no idea. As far as I'm aware, all studies point to just pushing your maximum for short periods and then stopping being far superior to pushing 70-80% of your maximum for long periods.
See also: sprinting vs distance running
not everyone is a dyel like you who need to rest 5 days per week
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yes we know thats what hit and fatty fetishists look like
Yeah, most of us are sissy homosexuals with an office job who need to compensate for not having any real physical demands on our bodies
I didn't read a word you said, I want to make that fatty in your webm my wife.
Imagine being a dyel oldgay who invested a trillion hours at the gym and now a bunch of zoomers are getting better results than you that devoted your life to being in the gym 24/7 while they lift once a week
It makes them seethe and dilate
I defo looked good and was my strongest doing along the lines of this but more inspired by Yates. A semi working set and a set to failure. Covid/ work picked and i never returned to it. Got more into cycling and climbing but try to do a full body 1/2 a week. HIT is a commitment, you need that rest
Another COPE video by a powerfat. Many such cases.
My takeaway on the subject has so far been that we want to have a style of workout that is short and achieves what volume workout does with less volume. I can't say that I truly know what makes muscle grow. The idea Mentzer suggests I gather to be that once you are able to exhaust every resource in your muscle to 100%, doing that again is unnecessary. You will have told the body it needs more strength or volume to do it again next time. As for volume, I'd imagine that is a way to push to that similar or same exhaustion of muscle but over a longer period of time.
In my mind anyway, I'd hope that by doing those long drawn out HIT reps that truly exhaust your muscle to the very core (and perhaps an additional rep 10 seconds later to truly hammer it out)... I'd hope that could achieve the same type of growth that volume would otherwise try to produce. Again I don't pretend to know how or if these things differ.
Beyond that, if HIT was not as effective as volume. I'd still be interested in trying say PPL but with 5 days between each set to test out what maximized restdays looks like for volume workouts.
To me workout out once a week intensely would be a blessing so I hope there can be some lower frequency of gym-going to be had with these HIT theories in mind.
I feel there's actually an answer in the comparison between sprinting and distance running for exercise. Sprinting at maximum effort for less than 20 seconds, giving yourself ample rest time (as in multiple minutes) before the next one, then repeating only until you produce anything less than a 100% effort or slightly degraded form ensures that you only ever exhaust glycogen stores in the muscle while sending all the hormonal and neural signals that tell your body to repair and build muscle. If you exceed these limits (sprinting more than 20 seconds at once or not resting enough) your body starts the process of deamination in which it breaks down other cells to extract amino acids as an emergency energy increasing measure. Distance running engages deamination because of how long the efforts are sustained and that's why you see the bodies of people who do tons of distance running kind of waste away compared to people who only sprint.
All that to say, I think the same thing is true of strength training. You want to exert maximum effort at lower volume with more rest and then stop the moment your effort diminishes. I imagine that the people who are doing high volume and pushing themselves to a certain number even as their effort and form suffer are burning through all their glycogen and then undergoing deamination which will work against their gains.
That second part is primarily just an educated guess but it makes sense that if sprinting and distance running work this way (that part is NOT a guess), the same would be true of volume in strength training.
I mean the whole Mentzer theory, not Arthur Jones he promoted moderate compound sets done in a circuit for intensity, is that curling a soup can for 20 sets of 10 is a shitload of volume, but has no intensity so does not induce a growth response. Bodybuilding "wisdom" is polluted by nice numbers (3 sets, 10 reps, 48 hours rest) and clickbait exercises confusing everyone when there 100% has to be physiological truth to building muscle. Everyone isn't a snowflake.
>causes 140lb pplers to go cognitive dissonant
Do you mean HIIT or is this something else?
HIIT = cardio with intense intervals
HIT = high intensity weight training, usually in the 1-2 set, 6-10 rep range to achieve muscle failure
The whole fitness industry is shitting on HIT because it reduces their revenue by not having people practically living in the gym buying their moronic products.
don't gyms make more money from people spending less time in the gym? gyms love the fat asses who pay for a membership and never actually show up
Gyms sell more than just memberships.
do you pay your gym membership by the hour or are you just moronic?
It's more s battle of "philosophies", volume have been the standard, more is better. They're invested in these rep ranges and set. What's best for hypertrophy and what's best for strength?
One one set?! Blasphemy! This is impossible, how can it be!?