>hollywood actor
>roids
>gets praised
>i roid
>everybody praise me
>i tell them that i roided for that body
>everybody suddenly is bitter against me
yeez i understand why these celebrities don't share their cycles
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>hollywood actor
>roids
>gets praised
>i roid
>everybody praise me
>i tell them that i roided for that body
>everybody suddenly is bitter against me
yeez i understand why these celebrities don't share their cycles
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celebrities are trash, you don't want praise you didn't deserve
roiding and bragging about your body is like playing a shooter and bragging about being in higher league while using aimbot or wallhack
Not quite like that because aimbot does all the job for you
Is more like being born in a successfull family and making your own business (with daddy's money)
Oh so like Elon Musk that everybody on this stupid platform is fan of him? cool
I'm not a fan of Musk, he's a total shyster and a wiener.
If you (the anon reading this) like Musk you're buck broken in the brain.
based, glad IST as a whole is moving away from this
like Elon Musk, but Elon Musk is to unfair advantage as Ronnie is to admitting roiding. It was on another level already and now it passed to another dimension
No because going to the gym is the easy part. It's laughably easy even for fatties (who tend to be super strong anyways so no challenge in lifting). The hard part is cutting, cardio and macros. Roids make this part a fricking joke. Roidlets can cut, not watch their macros, lose fat and gain muscle without even trying all in the same time. If that's not aimbot mode then idk what it is. Anyone who lifted years natty and turn to roid will tell you (if they are honest with themselves) that it's like hacking your way to life. So do not be surprised if people look you with a smug face when you tell them you work hard and do roids. It's either one or the other.
>makes your blood pressure crazy high
>likely die by cardiac arrest at the age of 50
but broooo look I’m jacked as frick its soooooo worth it
One of my good friends is on cycle. In the winter the fricker eats cheeseburgers and pizza 24/7, then he cuts all the fat ASAP in the spring. I’m not jealous but it’s insane to see roids in action. On the other hand, I also have friends who are on test alone and they live pretty “normal” lives like counting macros, etc, but they also are huge
For me lifting is a journey to challenge myself and the hardships of life. I want to overcome my weaknesses. I couldn't forgive myself if I did test or roids. It wouldn't be rewarded to succeed if I knew I cheated. Everyone is different. It's like in video games, you have legit player who put the hard work and those who cheat and hack their way to the top.
>Roidlets can cut, not watch their macros, lose fat and gain muscle without even trying all in the same time.
natty dyel moron alert.
another natty dyel moron who think roids are magic
>going to the gym is the easy part. It's laughably easy
Right
>The hard part is cutting, cardio and macros
Wrong
All that shit is laughably easy. Lmao what the frick. Touch grass.
>cardio is hard
Only if you’re a fatty
I don't buy all this shit about how roids are magic. Just look at Randy he's pinning daily and looks like a natty with bad acne.
Roids don't make cutting, cardio, or macros easy. Lmao. They make getting stronger easy and putting on weight easy.
not even easier, just faster
I'd say they make it easier too. I can put less effort into my workouts and gain more strength and size on cycle than with more effort off cycle. They do basically nothing for cutting though in my experience beyond feeling slightly less shitty on a long cut, and only slightly.
nah roids make cutting easy af
a natty on a deficit will get weaker and literally lose muscle mass during their cut
a guy on juice with the same exact deficit and routine won't lose any muscle mass and will probably even continue to add more muscle while on the deficit.
roids aren't a magic pill but they 100% make it easier. substantially easier. saying otherwise is just roider cope
Rounds dramatically increase your tdee. You can eat the same garbage as normal and lose fat while gaining muscle, all while losing weight overall.
>Not quite like that because aimbot does all the job for you
That’s what steroids do.
fat free what does it mean that reduces fat? explain it like i have down syndrome (i do)
Fat free mass(also known as FFMI(Fat Free Mass Index): All of the mass in your body, besides fat. This includes internal organs, bones, skin, muscle, anything in your body that is not fat. The only thing in your body, besides fat, that can really change in weight is muscle. So, if a person gains 5lbs in Fat Free Mass over the course of a month, that means they gained 5 lbs of muscle.
Now, there's actually one big flaw with this method: I lied to you earlier
>The only thing in your body, besides fat, that can really change in weight is muscle.
This isn't entirely true, there's another thing in your body that can change in weight in addition to muscle: water. If the amount of water in your body goes up, your FFMI will rise, making it seem like you put on muscle if you aren't aware of this. This is likely why the group that took testosterone while not training did better than the group that didn't take testosterone but did train. The testosterone with no training group did likely put on SOME muscle, but you also begin holding a lot of water when you begin taking testosterone. I doubt they put on more muscle while not even training, but it's hard to tell with the information given by the study. It would have been better if the study ran for longer and threw out the first few weeks where both of the testosterone groups began holding substantial more water.
What’s the reason for believing the group that didn’t work out put on more water weight than the group that did? Sounds like roidcell cope to me.
Holy frick
I lost all respect for roiders.. jesus christ
Fat free mass includes water bloat, it's not lean muscle gain
Still the roiders without exercise packed on almost the same gains on bench like the placebo group with exercise.
>b-b-but you still have to work just as hard bros!
Holy shit I didn’t know it was that easy
Fat free mass gain != muscle gain, moron
>The mean cross-sectional areas of the arm and leg muscles did not change significantly in the placebo groups, whether the men had exercise or not. The men in the testosterone groups had significant increases in the cross-sectional areas of the triceps and the quadriceps; the group assigned to testosterone without exercise had a significantly greater increase in the cross-sectional area of the quadriceps than the placebo-alone group, and the testosterone-plus-exercise group had greater increases in quadriceps and triceps area than either the testosterone-alone or the placebo-plus-exercise group
Yeah, the whole it's just bloat cope is moronic. What's actually happened is that the dyels who conducted this don't know how to lift. No way in hell are you going to get more gains than a good natty lifter by roids alone. Just look at Randy.
Glycogen mass is stored in muscle tissue
You gain more muscle by just taking steroids than you do from lifting natty. I thought everyone on IST knew this.
>this is ONLY testosterone
it doesn't show much per week right? now imagine adding deca/tren/dbol to that shit boom you become a superhero
You people are painfully moronic.
randy you dont have to seeth lifting with steroids is way easier than without. it may not happen overnight but over 3 months your results on test/tren will be way better than a natty just doing coffee and creatine
kek in 16 weeks (testdecadbol) i added more muscle mass than in 4 years natty
Kys you grease ball subhuman filth
>The men received injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate or placebo weekly for 10 weeks
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199607043350101
Read the study yourself
>eat average kcal diet
>eat 1.5g protein per kg body mass
>get given test - for free, no consequences at all because lol science
then in 10 weeks:
>Add 40kg to skwat
>add20kg tobench
>add 6kg fat-free muscle mass
holy frick where can I sign up?
>Placebo and exercise more effective than just steroids
Yup, clearly steroids do all of the work. No exercise required.
Are you blind?
You’re a piece of shit
Those 3 metrics can be atrributed to water retention. Look at actual strength change
THIS!!
>look at strength change
yeah, a guy on test that doesnt exercise has similar strength increase as a natty with bench.
Yes, the natty on squat does have higher strength gains than the roider who doesn't exercise, but still, all it takes is him to pick up a real basic starting program and he blows you out of the water on squat and bench.
the strength gains are similar but the area of the upper arms changed dramatically more for the roids with no exercise than the exercise with roids.
It may have been a routine issue but the change is more dramatic than a simple routine change would account for.
>the area of the upper arms changed dramatically more for the roids with no exercise
that's just from flexing in the mirror... on roids
>all these morons thinking fat free = pure muscle
take creatine and you'll pump your muscles with water, jesus christ this board
>impossible to grow triceps without roiding
Jesus christ, sauce?
>old ass study
>IST still shocked
lmao do you really believe the memes on here? "You have to reach benchmark XY before roids work", "roids aren't a magic bullet", "you still have to train your ass off" smdh git gud you fricking losers.
Then why does this guy look like this? He has been training 10+ years as natural and then started doing cycles, tren, test, masteron, dbol etc can't even remember all the stuff he took. This is his peak condition on cycle.
If steroids are magic and they make you just huge and jacked and give you more gains than without training, explain this?
It's more like getting an XP multiplier than a hack
who said he was bragging you natural dipshits?
this kek. just wait until the roidcels come into the thread and hit you with the same "lol seethe DYEL cope ur just too scared of needles" bullshit. always remember that when you talk to a roidranny, you're talking to literally that, a troony. An insane invidual that takes exogenous hormones so that they can achieve their desired body in an attempt to satisfy their dysmorphia.
like this one here, triggered without fail
>body dismorphia
>hitting desired body in WAAAAY less time
probably you and me have the same goal body the only difference is i'm gonna achieve it
This is the new age of monkeyball, we're gonna need a bigger boat.
nice, roidcel. way to just out yourself as a homosexual that takes shortcuts and wants it all to be as easy as possible, and im really sorry here mate, but you literally cannot make me jealous of you in any way. no matter how hard you try.
if you were truly happy with yourself you wouldn't be mad about somebody who doesn't even know you and you don't even know but clearly you still seething and you will be seething forever
i am happy with myself, that's why I dont behave and justify acting like a mentally ill transsexual like you kek. more so we're tired of the roidlets on this board sneaking out of your literal containment thread to spam and argue the same "seethe cope DYEL nattycuck ur scared 2 pin" shit. bagging and tagging you roidcel homosexuals when you get triggered never gets old tbqh, but you'll need to leave eventually. whether it's by closing your web browser, or when you drop dead from heart failure. sneed Black person.
Why are you so unhappy with yourself? It must suck being you.
>were so tired
if you think this is a new thing, then buddy you must have just joined this cantonese news paper forum yesterday. What we're tired of is the emotional zoomers coming on here and crying
>im so happy and not jealous
>writes another paragraph
>le IST lingo sneed
Youre a loser bro, at least ur natty tho
> you
brutal
lol seethe DYEL cope ur just too scared of needles
Roidcels seething
Based. Roidtrannies sneed and seethe.
absolute anal anihilation
bbbbbased
you will never look like you lift
the fact that you use "kek" says everything there is to say about how moronic you actually are
Terrible analogy. Roiding is playing in a different league and OP catches shit because he's not good enough to be there. Normies aren't even sure why it irks them, but we know.
>roiding for this
roiding is just paying to win
don't complain because god made life a pay to win shitfest
Good comparison.
Roiding is the lifting equivalent of whaling for that anime girl you want in some gatcha
I lift because of gacha rage. 30 ftp rolls in mahjong soul and still no new character
Actually its worse, its like playing a COD level and saying that you served in vietnam.
the delusional natty is comparing himself to vietnam veterans
>you don't know the hell i went through, sonny.. the endless boiled chicken breasts, the 3 hour workouts.. all to grow my arms from 15 to 15.25 inches.. the calorie counter app still haunts me at night
lol
>muh clean sports
If you don't cheat you don't care. A fair match is the last thing you want.
roiding and bragging about your body is like paying in a p2w game and bragging about beating the opponent
And natty seething is like the guy who willingly plays a heavily rigged pay to win game, and rages because he keeps losing.
if this is you you look like you give great hugs
How long between the two pics? How does your hair look?
Hollywood actor gains are always unimpressive since they are being paid to work out and have a team helping them (chefs, PTs, doctors for roids)
God I wish I could roid
Ppl love roided bodies but still find it taboo or something.
It's because they think anybody can achieve those bodies. Somehow is common for people that the rock is roided but Thor isn't. Why is that? Is because one of em is bald? I don't get it
Natty morons still dont know the work that goes into roiding lol. They genuinely think its like magic beans.
>pop some dbol and you're swole overnight
Best to not argue about it. No one gives a shit if I talk about it irl.
Where do you actually get this shit tho
you can literally get bigger using roids and not doing lifting at all
Dyel cope
https://www.t-nation.com/alpha-life/steroids-testosterone-side-effects-muscle-gains/
cope on this roidtroony
Again, dyel cope
kek coping roidtroony
>>pop some dbol and you're swole overnight
Uh yes, that's how it works. Why do you think people roid? If it was just a little bonus, nobody would bother with the side effects.
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.
>mfw thinking of you hurting
Celeberties claim fakenatty you didnt, smoke and mirrors dude.
hey at least you look like you lift our own IST lolcow looks like shit
my usps package has been delayed 2 times already i got enough test to chill but i need this tren NOW
Yeah roiding is fricking based and I don't give a shit what anyone things. I lifted for years and look like shit and have a shitty body due to loose skin from being obese.
Started roiding and now I get a shitload of compliments from men and women for being jacked. I actually pulled a chick from a bar and fricked her, got dates, literally had some drunk foreign milf cross a room to try and talk to me while her friends apologized to me lol
Roids gave me just a slight taste of what Chad and genetically gifted guys got their whole life, and i'm thankfrick as FRICK i got even just a taste of it.
I'd rather die early knowing I got to live a real life and experience shit than getting a fricking good goy medal because I did it "natty" and jerking off alone every night
Oh and I still look like shit and people wouldn't guess I roid but its enough to actually get compliments in the real world instead of bucket crab body dysmophia IST
Gear and Dosage?
500 testC Wk
400 EQ Wk
.2ml GH daily
.15ml hcg EoD
Seething natty mad his genetic gifts got nerfed by a lil needle kek
#
>.15 ml HCG
Im a little moronic, is that 15 IU of HCG or whats exactly the amount on IU?
#
>Also, are you still fertile?
yeah .15mls its 375 IUs. higher than people normally use EoD but i dont feel any estro side effects.
idk if im fertile, i still blast thick white loads my balls are slightly smaller but not really too noticeable, everything i've read says if you blast enough hcg if trying to get pregnant it will work.
You are such a homosexual that I actually feel bad for you. That you have come to feel this way is both a mark against you and the horrific modern condition that we subsist in. Also, after lifting for about 6 months natty I started getting compliments, and now after a year I've had many compliments and visible mires. So basically, on top of your homosexualry, you are either genetically deficient or moronic when it comes to programming and diet. Since you were obese, I would lean to the latter. So congrats, you changed from a fat moron to a moronic homosexual.
Did you get actual bloodwork, injecting daily?
Also are you still fertile?
youre me except I instead of being fat was a skinnyfrick with a bottom 10% frame and now I look like frickin zyzz. Seriously the "girls dont like muscles" is the biggest meme as long as you stay in the 190-210lb aesthetic zone and keep your abs and waist tight you are a fricking God among men. Worth shortening my lifespan to live as a Chad when not 4 years ago I was on here crying about being a ugly incel
Roids arent for everyone tho definitely have consequences, but Im gonna enjoy my youth to my fullest and just be bald in my 30s whatever
>fit cries about roids
>fit worships roiders like arnold or zyzz anyway
>fit wants to believe their favorite fake natties aren't on gear
Lmao what the frick is up with this schizo board?
>fit worships roiders like arnold or zyzz anyway
the only people that worship roidtroonys are dyel beginners.
normalgays don't know that celebrities are roiding at all. they really believe on the 2-6 months body transformation
im going to get a job at a factory just so i can afford roids, if not for roids i would be a NEET leech, therefore roids are a positive social influence
nice bod wish i looked like that congrats
can you achieve right with creatine?
lil b***hes. u wanna play hard and be a fricking champ or be last place in the minor leagues? mfer the human body is made to be pushed to the fricking limit. never give up motherfricker . i have a vision and i will get there BY ANY FRICKING MEANS NECESSSARY
Based and Piana-pilled
He died driving a Bentley and fricking a Barbie doll while broke natties in here think their "life" is even worth living single and alone kek
Life is only worth single and alone. Imagine wasting what little time you have on earth on relationships with perma-nagging, mentally ill broads, are you a virgin or something.
based
Roiding is literally illegal so unless they want some jail time, they claim natty. Understandable.
You don't discuss gyming with normies, much less roids.
+1
too many idiots that don't know shit about shit giving their opinion + most of them probably don'
t even workout more than twice a week
> Roidtrannies sneed and seethe.
picture of people that unironically say shit like this
You deserve that, troony