Is is possible this guy’s OHP is only 65x3? How can you be so big and still so weak? I started lifting in February, am at 68kg and my OHP is at 50x5.
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Is is possible this guy’s OHP is only 65x3? How can you be so big and still so weak? I started lifting in February, am at 68kg and my OHP is at 50x5.
Frick you. You know the answer but decided to create this thread with the sole purpose of stealing anon's time, fricking devil gains gobler DIE
Holy based. Frick OP I hope he gets raped by a pack of Black folk.
He lifts more than you and you're calling him weak. That's called jealousy
What is the point of being so big, if you are so weak? Then you are a total fraud. You should prioritize strength, not hypertrophy. I love it when I see big dudes having shitty lifts because muh hypertrophy, and I love lifting heavier weights than people bigger than me.
You don't lift heavier than he does though
I have only started training in February, I will def surpass him in one year, while weighing far less than him and having trained for a shorter time period than him. Nothing fuels me more than the joy of out lifting larger more experienced people, seeing them driven before you, and witness the lamentation of their women.
No one cares until you actually do it. Calling someone else weak when you can't outlift them is pussy shit.
He is 95kg and his OHP is 65x3. I am 68kg and my max OHP for 3 reps is 52.5. I am stronger than him. I suppose I simply have higher t levels and more type 1 muscle fibers.
>I lift less
>I am stronger
what
You are by defintion not only weaker than him but also weaker than me.
oh boy you are set up for a rude awakening when you start to stall on OHP.
First time I’ve seen somebody brag about a 115 lb OHP… and at that weight you very likely are within 90% of your potential max
>t. 230 OHP
Weak man and weak mind, truly you are a total homosexual
Skinnyfat moron learns strength doesn’t equal size
>someone on IST is actually weaker than me
I can finally join the DYEL hate threads
Nobody asked DYEL NYR homosexual
That's pure conjecture. You can't talk about surpassing him until you actually have, you've got no idea how long it'll take You to get to 65kg
Why would you prioritize strength if your goal is hypertrophy dipshit, you should prioritize progressive overload
Nobody cares how much you lift I PROMISE you that my friend. Nobody, not unless you literally beat a world record and even then it's only a handful of fans of the sports.
Meanwhile everyone even on a purely subconscious level cares and judges the way you look.
Women mire me when I am the one benching the most in my gym. I will purposely go right next to a guy benching, then lift more than him. Women notices my strength and give me smiles
>the people shitting on NH are delusional dyels
Wow I'm shocked
Cope for being a fat ugly manlet
5'3-5'6 guaranteed.
>What is the point of being so strong, if you are so bloated you can barely fit into a sweater? Also, 100% chances you are a total fraud.
I can tell you, unless you work as a firefighter or at the port nobody gives a shit how much you can bench.
my brother and I are competing against each other to see who gets the higher bench. Right now his 1rm is 200lbs while I do 195lbs for 5 or 6 reps. Don’t know my 1rm because I never attempted it
Meanwhile that guy looks at you and thinks
>I love it when I see small dudes with big lifts because muh strength, and I love being bigger than people lifting heavier weights than me
this is the best bait i have seen this year on fit and I am laughing at all the morons taking it, well posted.
I have a very good bait radar and that post isnt bait(80% positive not bait)
his point is widely held by powershitters, the ss guys who gomad and did the big 3 for a year, etc.
Yeah I don't think this is bait either. SS fricked my mind in the same way (feeling superior to bigger guys because I'm 'stronger') now I don't give a frick about strength and only train for hypertrophy
yea, I did ss too when I started(even listened to rippetoes podcasts), did around 6 months of it, I think it is good if you dont fall into the ss ride or die fanclub.
also the realization that most of the big lifters have mid physiques(I would have one too if I continued) was like a bucket of cold water
Larping moron.
>Then you are a total fraud. You should prioritize strength, not hypertrophy.
This is what strength copers really believe
>NH
>big
He looks like a bag of potatoes IRL. He's weak as frick, struggles even with pull ups and his workouts are all fluff and junk volume.
I don't understand why that homosexual is even shilled here, he has nothing that'd make him stand out and he's just a whiny b***h.
The whole point of everything is to get laid
he's said in the past he purposefully undertrains shoulders
Highly doubt he had made any progress on overhead press in 3 years but you also chose his worst lifts since he purposefully undertrained for years, stupid question
hasnt*
The highest I ever ohp was 52.5kg for 5 reps. It’s over
GTFO of this board. Don't you see everyone here achieves LMAO1PL8 @ OHP after 20 days of lifting?
You're a disgrace.
you do realize that 50x5 OHP is like 2-3 years away from 65x3?
It's one of the lifts where you will just stall at 1pl8 for possibly indefinitely. Its possible that you wont lift more than 1pl8 even in 8 years. Putting up numbers after past point just becomes progressively harder but I wouldnt expect a literal sub 1 year lifter to know any better.
Also, strength =/= size. Strength doesnt mean that you are bigger and you wont suddenly get stronger unless you train for strength especially when you are already baseline strong, which 65 for 3 is.
I disagree maybe I just have a super blessed
OHP or something but I went from 60kgx5 to 70kgx5 in a relatively short space of time by just actually focusing on it, I don't know where it would end. It's always been dramatically stronger than my other lifts. Don't say I'm leaning back, I'm not. It took nowhere near years, I'm talking a couple months
>strength =/= size
Muscle strength = muscle size. Getting bigger is the only way your muscles can get stronger.
OHP numbers, Squat numbers, etc. have a major leverage component and hence trying evaluate the strength of your muscles through them is often deceiving. That means people who have better leverages will perform much better than someone with worse leverages. This is regardless of how strong their muscles actually are. I attached a picture with two lines. The left is the length of the humerous. The right is the length of his Ulna. Humerous is about 330px while the Ulna is about 250px. 250/330 is about 0.75 so he doesn't have good leverages for presses. Whereas someone with a longer Ulna relative to the Humerous will have better leverages for presses. This is of course without accounting for overall arm length of the wingspan, finger tip to fingertip, relative to height--long arms for longer wingpan than height while short arms have a shorter wingspan. Long arms are bad presses. Short arms are good for presses.
Of two people with muscles that can produce equal force, the one with shorter arms will always have the bigger OHP.
That doesn't explain why he struggles with bodyweight dips and pullups.
well he weights 225 so 10 pull ups isn't bad
You mean 10 half reps.
He's shit at pulling movements too.
>over 200lbs
We're not talking about front levers or human flags. It's about pull ups and dips, the most basic shit you can do.
Dips are a pressing movement, hence the previous applies. Then there's the bodyweight component. I think this guy claims to be over 200lbs or something like that which makes bodyweight movements harder to perform. Heavier people in general will have problems with Pullups regardless of proportions. Based on other pictures I've seen of this guy, he's getting kinda chubby which will hurt his pullups more.
>Muscle strength = muscle size. Getting bigger is the only way your muscles can get stronger.
Wrong.
>That means people who have better leverages will perform much better than someone with worse leverages. This is regardless of how strong their muscles actually are.
Correct.
> Long arms are bad presses. Short arms are good for presses.
Correct.
strength = muscle size. Getting bigger is the only way your muscles can get stronger.
>Wrong.
No. It is 100% correct. The only way to get your muscles to produce more force in general is to make them bigger. Any other factor in whatever is called strength has nothing to do with the muscles.
>pull ups and dips, the most basic shit you can do.
There's a reason calisthenics are so hard for fats and so easy for manlets. The heavier you are, the more difficult those things are. The lighter you are, the easier it is to get into them and progress them.
>basic
Pullups and Dips require an initial level of relative strength to perform. They are absolutely something many beginners cannot do. It doesn't matter if they're considered basic.
My ohp is 60kg for a triple and I'm dyel and skinnyfat (more skinny than skinnyfat now to be fair)
The redpill is that training method matters less than time put in - doing it "wrong" for ten years will give better results in general than doing it """right""" for one year
Genetics does two things (1) describes what doing it "right" means for you (i.e. what you respond to) and (2) shifts the amount of time required
Genetic outliers can get great results, and the closer to right for them that they train, the faster those results come
> I started lifting in February
He has long arms.
He said in a different video a few months ago that he actively avoids shoulder training because he doesn’t want to have big shoulders (he doesn’t like the aesthetics of it)
whats his bench max
Because he isn't actually big.
QUIT SHILLING HERE YOURSELF YOU FRICKING moron
>how is he so weak
arab genes
Bros, I’m gonna attempt 185lbs (84kg)x 3 tonight. I’m pretty psyched for it
youre gonna fail and get injured seriously
I can already do it 1-1/2x
Probably not. But I’m on the road to 2 plate.
Well I fricking failed it. Got it once again. But nothing is injured and I’ll try again soon
Good luck, bro. But ask yourself if you really need that instead of focusing in other lift.
Just sayin'.
>Is is possible this guy’s OHP is only 65x3?
Like I fricking care, he looks good (no homo). Post body, OP.
Not the OP, but I honestly don't get this either. I look like a fricking twig, but I can OHP 140 pounds (70 dumbbell in each hand) for about 6 reps. I have to work out 2 hours every workout, every single set and rep to failure, while others can just look like this barely lifting anything.
I guarantee you that you use leg drive and don’t do full range of motion
Or even worse, you count a high incline bench press as “ohp”
Db press isn’t ohp moron.
your form sucks
it's the neck that makes him look bigger than he is
If you're natty, and if you don't want to just keep getting fatter and fatter, at some point your lifts will stall. You can't just keep getting stronger, and the only people who believe this stuff are DYELs which is why people like op expose themselves as dyels. Anything over a 1plate OHP is completely fine for a recreational lifter in fact you will rarely see this in a commercial gym even by roiders.
>Be under 70kg
>brag about your strength and lifts
Shut up b***h, he can literally ohp you
If that’s kg that’s perfectly respectable. OHP is overrated at a certain point and you’d benefit more from incline bench. He also purposely undertrained shoulders for years. I think it was a moron move on his part but there’s your answer
Damn you strong af
Plenty of betas coping in this thread
Are you sure you are doing the exercise properly?
what
i started lifting a month ago and have only done ohp 3 times in my life and I'm at 47kg 4x6
am i being baited rn ?
Damn you started so low?? Get your t levels checked my guy
I pressed 1pl8 at my first gym session
I'm not actually joking.
my first ever ohp I did 7 reps with the bar, and two 10lbs plates on each side, immediately raised it to one 25lb plate per side. today I threw another 5lbs on each side for 105lb total and it was significantly more difficult than 95 (43kg) but doable. my best guess is I might get up to 51kg and then plateau based on how I'm feeling now
you used leg drive and did half reps without going from clavicle to full lockout
what the frick is leg drive, im only using my arms for this. I was only going to my chin because i'm still not sure what im doing but I can go lower if that is it.
yeah you are skipping good 5 inches of range of motion here if chin is bottom for you.
imean anywhere beyond 90 degrees on the arms is mostly the same forces but sure I'll do further
Pretty sure ive done some of those either by accident or earlier at 43kg i was doing them that way.
anyhow you want the lengthened muscle portion of the lift as much as possible. it's the most growth stimulating bit.
Not joking either senpai?
show your OHP then, coward!!
>kg
aids homosexual
No one gives a frick about how much you lift, it's about how you look.
yeah he's so big, idk how he maxes out at 65kg x3 without full ROM
he has tiny delts due to not training them
I do 50kg for 3x5 and I dont see many people in my gym lift more. are you all on roids or is my gym just DYELville
I weigh 155 lb and can do 115 lbs 4x8. You just have a weak ohp like everyone else.
Strength Copers are so fricking cringe.
None of you even got into lifting to be strong, you got into it to look good but then got brainwashed into /ss/ and powerlifting nonsense and sunk cost fallacy stops you changing your ways.
Many, MANY such cases.
How do I avoid getting pointy Popie looking biceps like this?
If you don’t have them you probably won’t get them. Mine (and my dad and brothers) are like this. It’s just genetic.
OHP is one of those exercises where pretty much everyone does it differently and keep calling people moronic.