How are you supposed to deal with getting weaker on a cut when youre not even anywhere near being lean yet?

How are you supposed to deal with getting weaker on a cut when you’re not even anywhere near being lean yet?

I’m only 3 weeks into cutting and everything feels heavy as frick already

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    skill issue, or not enough proteins, my lifts still go up on cuts, albeit a tad slower

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That makes zero sense unless you’re new to the gym or something

      I’ve been lifting for 13 years and the moment I enter a calorie deficit I immediately get weaker, like -15% on pressing strength happens in week 1

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I’ve been lifting for 13 years
        >asks moronic noob question
        Like I said, skill issue, you may "feel" weaker but I have no issue just continuing to push myself as I would normally do, try harder I guess

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You’re not gaining strength on a calorie deficit you moronic c**t

          I bet you’ve never tracked calories in your life to even know whether you’re in a deficit or not, and you’ve just always been in a surplus

          If you’re gaining strength in a calorie deficit you would be a human miracle and should be tested for your 1 in 1 trillion genetics, the ability to gain strength in a energy deficit, woah man… you’re like a demi god

          Or you’re just talking out of your ass making shit up like a typical 4choooner

          I wonder which one it is

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You’re not gaining strength on a calorie deficit you moronic c**t
            It's possible. It's not as rare as you think.
            When I'm in a cut I usually increase my protein intake in 40% and increase my steroid doses

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You do realize that your body uses your fat storage as energy fuel on a cut, right anon? Holy lel

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              You’re moronic holy frick

              Fat stores aren’t quick access energy stores which is what you use for strength

              Your current level of strength mostly comes from your current level of carbohydrate intake since that is the fastest source of energy available

              Your fat stores aren’t doing shit to give sudden energy bursts required for strength, if that was the case you could use fat as energy for strength people who are obese could go into the gym and have super human strength yet fat fricks are all just as weak as skinny fricks, if not even weaker because they have low T from being morbidly obese and fricking up their hormones

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >current level of carbohydrate
                your so close anon, maybe you can figure out how to gain muscle on a cut yet, you're so very close

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >gain muscle on a cut

                You realize by saying this you just outed yourself as a noob lifter who hasn’t been lifting for more than a few months

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >still hasn't posted body
                Educate yourself, moron: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26817506/

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Quite the opposite actually, I know many people who have increased muscle mass on a cut and it is fairly common to hear from people, both novice and long time lifters, you're just coping because you get all sweepy when you go to the gym now, weak ass pussy kek

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                1 gram protein per lean pound muscle mass.
                Most of your other calories should be fat.
                I drink kefir to aid in digestion.
                I'm cutting while building muscle.
                1 lb steak and around 6 to 8 eggs. 1-2 cups kefir.
                Going to do this until my bulk.
                36 eggs, 2 lbs of meat, and some fruit.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >36 eggs
                Whole or only the whites?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whole and raw. For cholesterol and raw calories more than protein. Drunk throughout the day, mind you.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                How much muscle do you have?
                I don't even eat eggs in cuttings because otherwise my weight will go up real quick

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                175 to 180 lean, 220 lbs overall.
                Mostly working on cardio and endurance right now, trying to slim down, do bodyweight shit.
                I like slimming in winter and bulking in summer though.
                More of a strength power focus in summer

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you can gain muscle on aa cut you should just gain weight and fill out instead of looking like a weird obomination.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >implying you can't do both

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post body

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >moronic c**t
            >proceeds to type moronic shit
            many such cases

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >skill issue
          Ironic considering you’re clearly not lifting to failure. If you were, you can’t just “push yourself a little further” because you are literally lifting until failure, which you’re not.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf are you talking about?

            For the last year I’ve pressed 45kg dumbbells on the incline for sets of 10-12 fairly comfortably

            I entered a calorie deficit for the first time in over a year 3 weeks ago and suddenly 35kg dumbbells feel as heavy as the 45kg dumbbells did and it’s only been 3 weeks

            This sudden loss of occurred within 20 days of entering a calorie deficit

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf are you talking about?

            For the last year I’ve pressed 45kg dumbbells on the incline for sets of 10-12 fairly comfortably

            I entered a calorie deficit for the first time in over a year 3 weeks ago and suddenly 35kg dumbbells feel as heavy as the 45kg dumbbells did and it’s only been 3 weeks

            This sudden loss of occurred within 20 days of entering a calorie deficit

            Oh and don’t you dare try and tell me I wasn’t pressing 45kg dumbbells properly or something

            I’ve been press 45kg dumbbells each arm on incline db press for over 400 days and the only difference between the last 3 weeks and last 60+ weeks is me being in a calorie deficit

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I do a failure set on my last set and:
            >push yourself a little further
            is literally the definition of lifting to failure moron, only manlets lift to failure on every set anyways

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I’ve been lifting for 13 years

        Either you've got shit form or you're getting old and aging like shit

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        15% in 1 week? Get your T checked out bro something is wrong with you or like the other anon said, skill issue.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You people are out of your mind I had wider shoulders than most men at like 13 and I grew up fat yet all the skinny kids look like the long tan and handsome dude from SpongeBob.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Noob gains on a cut are stupid easy if you know what you're doing, it will just never be near as fast as on a bulk. Yeah you might not make gains on a cut if you've been training well for 5+ years, but -15% strength 1 week into a cut is insane and you have problems or are doing something wrong. Simple as

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a newbie but I am pretty sure I put on a lil muscle mass last cut.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's because you're still making noob gains and you're not on any meaningful deficit

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You were never really strong

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Problem is, son, you're cutting too much and following meme advice.
    Cuts shouldn't be brutal because you're an impatient twat. You should just be cutting about 300-600 cal/.day max so you're not suffering and can keep strength up.
    Shit, back when I was in my early 40s, I dropped 25 lb. over a year doing a slow cut and still added weight to every lift. Do it right, fatty, and go slow, you'll thank me later.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s almost 2024 and people on IST are claiming to gain muscle in a energy deficit, something roiders can’t even do

    Did this place regress in knowledge or something in recent years? I don’t remember IST being this moronic

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You’re moronic holy frick

      Fat stores aren’t quick access energy stores which is what you use for strength

      Your current level of strength mostly comes from your current level of carbohydrate intake since that is the fastest source of energy available

      Your fat stores aren’t doing shit to give sudden energy bursts required for strength, if that was the case you could use fat as energy for strength people who are obese could go into the gym and have super human strength yet fat fricks are all just as weak as skinny fricks, if not even weaker because they have low T from being morbidly obese and fricking up their hormones

      Samegayging this hard. Le ebin oldgay

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you don't even lift lol

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post body, let’s see this 1 in a trillion specimen of genetics that gains muscle tissue in an energy deficit

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but my doctor says this happens, but much slower than in a bulking

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao

            Kill your self

            Lmao at all these claims being made by sloppy DYEL looking peasants with no gains claiming to be able to make muscle gains in a calorie deficit

            Dumb fricks probably don’t even know what it means to be in a calorie deficit

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              you sound mad, post body to prove us wrong then fat boy

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not that anon, but I think the problem is your focus on your cut.
          You should probably focus on big compound lifts instead of isolating arms.
          Kettlebell swings for a cardio focus might be great too.
          Your growth is gonna be determined by HGH production, and I don't think isolation are gonna cut it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The frick are you talking about lmao

            Incline dumbbell press isn’t an isolation, it’s a compound lift

            The frick are you talking about isolations

            Are you dumb or what? I mentioned per arm on dumbbells before the moron sperged out about me “only lifting 45kg on dumbbells” when I have 45kg in each hand when I incline db press

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              No need to be so mad.
              You're the one that's losing skeletal strength on your cut.
              Don't ask questions if you just want to last out at people, jeez.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          hey champ, if you ask someone to post body you're supposed to post yours as well, common board etiquette

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yeah bro I can gain muscle in a calorie deficit, you must be doing something wrong if you can’t gain muscle in a calorie deficit!

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just get up and deal with it.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    IST is getting more moronic by the day, now we are entering level of building muscle on a cut, jesus my lord

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      S...Sam Sulkek can do it, and that boy is literally me.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    my lifts stay the same. eat more carbs idiot.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    imagine being a seasoned lifter that lifted for 13 years and still caring about a drop in performance during a cut

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