Yeah to focus certain muscle groups. They also heal fast as fuck. I dare you to lift medium/heavy 4 hours a day 7 days a week and eat 8000 calories. I've tried, just got injured and took huge shits.
Uncomparably bigger than you can with using only free weights.
There is a reason why machines were invented and created. You can focus on one specific muscle and control the weight.
>Machines were invented to make money.
No. You're a coping dyel.
>everyone knows you need to lift heavy weights to get as big as possible
Wrong. TUT is how you get big. Lifting heavy is how you get injured. Ronnie Coleman is literally crippled. Jay Cutler is as healthy as one can get. Gues which one of them was using heavy weights.
How come Larry Williams is so "small" when he has inhuman strength?
Have you ever saw how Rolley Winklaar trained? It looked like he was warming up the entire time.
You're just a fat coper. Stop being a fucking retard, do yourself a favour and start training for hypertrophy.
Jay used to incline bench like 5 plates for reps you fucking mong. Yeah you can make gains on machines but youll need to max the stack and eventually add some sort of extender pin to add more weight if you ever want to be 'huge', not that you'd know.
Jay cutler lifted heavier than the majority of the obese whales in /plg/ >Larry wheels >small
what
he’s just tall so he doesn’t have the crazy proportions bodybuilders have. dude is fucking gigantic
machines were made to give people an option that works out their muscles without the fear that comes with free weights and the potential for injury that comes with free weights
there worse in almost every single way
Phil Heath 7x Mr Olympia used almost exclusively machines.
Machines are just as good as free weights for hypertrophy if not better. If you are a powerlifter then no you won't get to very elite level with just machines, mainly because you will run out of weight and they isolate too much for overall power.
>As someone who trains at Armbrust, and also friends with his step son Mike, Phil mainly sticks to dumb bells and machines. He hardly touches bench, squats, and deadlifts. When he's offseason he'll mess around with the big 3 but during competition, especially when he is coming closer to Olympia time, he just does a lot of the hammer strength machines on the full stack or fully loaded with plates and just bangs out 20 reps or giant sets or drop sets. He talked about his training style once when he was there during all the Gifted Nutrition release at the gym.
All these fags saying pro bodybuilders use machines seem to forget that pro bodybuilders also take a shitload of steroids. If you're natty and want to get big don't use machines
The point is that if you're natty you shouldn't be copying what pro bodybuilders do because most of them don't know how to train. They get big because of the roids, not because of their training methods. Name me one natty lifter who got big using just machines... You can't because there's none, otherwise most normies would be big cause all they do is use machines
Natties don't get big at all regardless. Machines and free weights made no difference to my physique in the 15 years or so I trained natty, nor when I was on gear. Nor did I see a difference in others. It's pure cope and ego.
There's no difference between using weights and machines. People have had equal success both ways. You just get people thinking training exclusively one way makes them superior to others, gymcel ego thing.
As big as you want. You won't work stabilizers though.
Compound movements promote more testosterone too. The only reason to use machines is if you're crippled and would otherwise hurt yourself.
>The only reason to use machines is if you're crippled and would otherwise hurt yourself.
every pro bodybuilder is using tons of machines
Yeah to focus certain muscle groups. They also heal fast as fuck. I dare you to lift medium/heavy 4 hours a day 7 days a week and eat 8000 calories. I've tried, just got injured and took huge shits.
What does it mean if machines don't work stabilizers? Does it mean you won't actually improve in strength? Will it injure you if you keep using them?
Let's say you do some chest fly machine.
You won't be able to bench shit with free weights.
pianoman only did machines
And now he's dead. Coincidence?
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I want some examples for when I start my lift journey
Uncomparably bigger than you can with using only free weights.
There is a reason why machines were invented and created. You can focus on one specific muscle and control the weight.
this is a myth
You can reach your natural limit with machines
No it isn't
>You can reach your natural limit with machines
aesthetically at least
>enter the gym
>you see machines everywhere
>''no bro, machines are a myth, they do not exist"
shut the fuck up you retard
Machines were invented to make money.
Also everyone knows you need to lift heavy weights to get as big as possible.
t. powershitter
>Machines were invented to make money.
No. You're a coping dyel.
>everyone knows you need to lift heavy weights to get as big as possible
Wrong. TUT is how you get big. Lifting heavy is how you get injured. Ronnie Coleman is literally crippled. Jay Cutler is as healthy as one can get. Gues which one of them was using heavy weights.
How come Larry Williams is so "small" when he has inhuman strength?
Have you ever saw how Rolley Winklaar trained? It looked like he was warming up the entire time.
You're just a fat coper. Stop being a fucking retard, do yourself a favour and start training for hypertrophy.
Jay used to incline bench like 5 plates for reps you fucking mong. Yeah you can make gains on machines but youll need to max the stack and eventually add some sort of extender pin to add more weight if you ever want to be 'huge', not that you'd know.
The Iceland video? The actual weight there was slightly under 4 plates. Cutler wasn't incline benching 5 plates for around 10 reps or whatever it was
Jay cutler lifted heavier than the majority of the obese whales in /plg/
>Larry wheels
>small
what
he’s just tall so he doesn’t have the crazy proportions bodybuilders have. dude is fucking gigantic
machines were made to give people an option that works out their muscles without the fear that comes with free weights and the potential for injury that comes with free weights
there worse in almost every single way
Fucking huge. Lots of pro bodybuilders train primarily with machines, especially for legs.
Phil Heath 7x Mr Olympia used almost exclusively machines.
Machines are just as good as free weights for hypertrophy if not better. If you are a powerlifter then no you won't get to very elite level with just machines, mainly because you will run out of weight and they isolate too much for overall power.
>As someone who trains at Armbrust, and also friends with his step son Mike, Phil mainly sticks to dumb bells and machines. He hardly touches bench, squats, and deadlifts. When he's offseason he'll mess around with the big 3 but during competition, especially when he is coming closer to Olympia time, he just does a lot of the hammer strength machines on the full stack or fully loaded with plates and just bangs out 20 reps or giant sets or drop sets. He talked about his training style once when he was there during all the Gifted Nutrition release at the gym.
I like OHP and chest machines for snappy dropsets because you just need to adjust the pin rather than farting around taking off and putting on plates.
All these fags saying pro bodybuilders use machines seem to forget that pro bodybuilders also take a shitload of steroids. If you're natty and want to get big don't use machines
Such a retarded low iq take lol. Yeah they take steroids. And? The bodybuilders using free weights also take sterods. What's your point?
The point is that if you're natty you shouldn't be copying what pro bodybuilders do because most of them don't know how to train. They get big because of the roids, not because of their training methods. Name me one natty lifter who got big using just machines... You can't because there's none, otherwise most normies would be big cause all they do is use machines
Natties don't get big at all regardless. Machines and free weights made no difference to my physique in the 15 years or so I trained natty, nor when I was on gear. Nor did I see a difference in others. It's pure cope and ego.
Idiot, dont ever post again
There's no difference between using weights and machines. People have had equal success both ways. You just get people thinking training exclusively one way makes them superior to others, gymcel ego thing.
depends on how much gear you blast