How common are the various bench press goals amongst the gym going and general population? 135, 225, 315, 405?
How common are the various bench goals?
How common are the various bench press goals amongst the gym going and general population? 135, 225, 315, 405?
90% of gym goers will be doing 135
Less than 10% will do 225
Less than 1% will do 315
0.01% will do 405.
90% for 135? Honestly that seems like quite a lot. Most women don't ever hit 135, and a good chunk of sub 140-150ish dudes rarely progress to even 135.
Any average guy can do 135 untrained unless you are a literal neet
you have body dysmorphia or stubby arms anon
Are we talking 1RM or for reps
1rm obv
I've never attempted a 1RM on bench because I don't have a spotter. Where does 170 x 5 put me in the broader societal hierarchy.
pls be in kg
naturally
hard to say when. Rpe? if rpe 10 probably roughly 205.
I only got mine up just ditching 1rms way too hard on your joints and you cant lift as much.
You can actually so some like doubles and triples then come back for volume. I never gaimed any strength at all pr chasing.
someone young and spry can chase 1rm all they want, but once you start hitting soft walls, yeah for sure you can’t just sit around yearning for a new 1rm. Gotta put in the work to effectively and safely progress 100%, I hear you.
Nobody wants their 1rm to be down by 15% for several weeks doing a powerlifting routine base.
idk what to tell u champ, being old and worrisome of your joints and decreased recovery efficiency isn’t fun. Luckily I can 1rm literally every 4 days and have a 60% chance of going up 5-10lbs. 405 closer every day. just sleep more.
>adding 30lb a month to your bench
Where do you homosexuals get this shit from lmao
wonders what not working out like a moron, being strong, AND being youthful can do huh? weak moron.
You bench 155lbs and you’re dyel lmao. It all makes sense now. I bet you’re Indian.
Oh brother cope harder. Your sub 300 bench bores me. A Child showing me its shitty drawing.
Indian lies. You smelly poo poo man.. stinky preet doodoo friend.
>mfw 290 bench for a single which is 160lbs more than pardeep
290. Is that lbs or kg? lbs…? Boring weak loser. after my routine pr attempt I rep that mid for a little bag work. amusement maxxing type deal. the same you do with 185, if you can even put up 185, who knows with you morons.
Post body, poopoo man
damn your dog has clean teeth
not indian, but there was a month when i started taking lifting seriously that i put 40 lbs on my bench. 165->205 in 4 weeks. I had just started college and mom was a vegetarian so i didn't really get any level of proper nutrition before i got out of the house. my strength exploded when i started eating properly, i think i just got beginner gains late. its still possible tho
Right, but when you’re up over 300lbs benching there is a zero (0%) percent chance you are adding 30lbs a month to your bench. You’d be lucky if you added 30lbs in a year.
learn to ditch weight lmao you really dont need a spotter before like 200-225 at least. ditching weight in the major lifts should be the first thing you learn at the gym
225 makes you one of the biggest normies at the gym. Usually only see roided boomer freaks going heavier.
>90% of gym goers will be doing 135
More like 40%
That’s because people don’t do their 1rm, they do sets of 8-12. 225 for 1rm is very common, you see dyel looking people doing sets of 275 sometimes even.
Absolutely off
Bench and ohp are about the same since people bench more often. While the ohp is only equivalent to about a 210 lbs bench, it's not that far off - you are considering your own little push press an ohp you dyel
315 squat and 4pl8 dl are seen less often since people skip legs
>10% doing 225
more like 2%
the general population doesnt bench press so I'm nit sure what you're on about.
Most gym goers dont bench press either. They just frick around with 30lbs dumbbells and wonder why they're small
a vast majority of gym goers bench press, its like the first exercise new comers pick up other than a basic squat. they just dont progress to anything notable/dont stick with the gym
Amongst those who bench, I think about 10% will ever hit 2pl8. However, I also think that only 10% of those that hit 2pl8 will ever advance beyond that.
So only 1% makes it to 230?
I've genuinely started to wonder how much of the population can even genetically go past 225 a significant amount. I've been plateaued on 225 for like a year now and I'm pretty discouraged. Well, not completely stonewalled, I've gotten to 235 but that took literally like a year and a half so my progress is just slow as frick. Even though a lot of my friends are genuinely impressed, they're mostly non-lifters and it feels bad any time I hear gifted people blazing past that or see the big guys at the gym.
I'm really trying not to blackpill myself here. I've tried gigabulking a few months, I've tried mixing up my program in all kinds of ways (and no I don't program hop). I genuinely don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Try working in a slingshot or chains, board bench, spoto press, narrow grip, swiss bar, and do chest and tricep accessories. I can't bench more than you, but this is what I see coaches at my gym program to get people past plateus.
you gotta lock the form down and bench more. switch your split to maximizing recovery for chest day.
The easiest way to get really strong + big really fast is to do Squat and Bench for volume and on another day Deadlifts (3-5 rep range), Pullovers (just volume spam) for some added gains, though you could do seated shoulder presses for some shoulder gains and that's about it what you need as a regular joe.
also, like that other guy said but more emphasized: max out your tricep machines comfortably and boom easy 275. real hard work starts there
You need to strengthen your upper back. Power shrugs and BB rows. Change the movement to weighted dips or DB’s while you really focus on your upper back.
You need to approach this problem from a different angle and I don’t think “more bench” is the answer.
More bench done correctly is literally always the answer when the question is "how do i bench more?"
Brainlet take. Having a stronger base off of which to push from allows you to lift more weight.
everything is beneficial, but no amount of stronger base is gonna make up for a lack of pressing strength. Bandaid isn’t a real remedy for the wound of not pressing >225 .
It’s almost like you need both things. He’s saying he’s been focusing on pressing and he’s getting nowhere, dyel??
I bench 365 going for 375 tmr. lift more than you = know more than you. Stop being little. Improve form, get bigger triceps = better bench. Simple.
I would say go for 370 instead of 375, you're getting to the point where its a struggle just to add 5 pounds to your bench press, let alone 10.
Read the thread, I exposed him as a DYEL Indian larper poopoo man
His programming sucks and he probably doesn't eat it rest enough.
The way to get from a 225 bench to a 315 bench is not "power shrugs and BB rows". It's following a decent bench program.
If he's only gone from a 225 bench to 235 in 18 months, there is a 0% chance that his solution is more shrugs and rows.
It’s more like a 100% chance that his upper back is too weak for him to progress. You have a very advanced moronation, please stop posting
>durrr bench more
If you don’t strengthen your back proportionally the numbers never go up because it’s physically impossible to lift a weight your back isn’t strong enough to support and it’s why the bench is one of the ultimate DYEL filters. Seriously dude just stop posting
You’re a moron, working out his back when he clearly works out like shit isn’t gonna magically shoot his bench press up, his awful recovery is just gonna make it worse. Use that little head of yours.
We actually know nothing about how he works out. We know nothing about his diet, we know nothing about what he does aside from the facts that he stalled out and has kept benching but hasn’t progressed.
There’s a good chance his chest is actually stronger than his back and that his bench will, in fact, shoot up if his back gets stronger. God damn you are a dumbass
Might be meme bracing. I foumd out holdimg it closer to my nipples even above requires a whole different bench posture but pullimg all the way down and back just puts your fromt delt into full flexion and the fricked up tendons co,e from full rom there not a lack of strength.
You’re so clearly a moron it’s mind blowing, if you can’t see how he trains and recovers by what he tells you, then it’s clear you can’t read, moron. I’d hate to be in a moron comp with you. Year+ to go up 10lbs = doesn’t know how to work out, doesn’t know how to recover properly. Where’s the disconnect, moron?
Wait, so is he under or over training? Both under training AND over training at the same time?
Were clearly not even playing the same game; I’m shocked you’re able to breathe and walk at the same time.
You can’t read how are you even here typing rn? Do you understand what you’re saying? Monkey whamming on a keyboard. I’m no saint, I have no patience for morons, just kys. You can dream about a >300 bench in hell.
>ESL dyel detected
Oh brother. Hahahahahah.. stinky stinky doodoo man 🙂
What do you even mean, you should be hitting rows after bench anyways so you can do db or close grip or whatever maybe even both frick "back day" ill do that same day as bench or ohp so i have a reat day and recover faster.
I mean figure out a way to make your upper back stronger, however the frick you want, and enjoy your bench press gains. It’s that simple.
I found dialling in my form a bit and switching to a conjugate approach helped me get from being stuck at lmao2plate for years to 255lbs in about 6 months. Basically incorporating variations to target weak points, having a max day and a volume day (found that more effective than speed work), and doing a shitload of tricep isolations.
>doing conjugate for dyel weight
you know you can do any beginner linear program to go beyond LMAO2pl8 right
play around with your grip a bit. my official bench max is 245, but i grip it super wide, and when i go for a closer grip (hands about 2.5-3ft apart on the bar) i can crank set after set of 2pl8s no problem.
whats up with this thick plate sandwiched between thinner plates?
Since we are on bench discussion, are weighted dips better than flat bb bench press?
Yes, bench press is just 1. More convenient and accessible than getting a dip belt, and 2. cooler
Checking open powerlifting for some ratios,
140kg -139000
180kg - 36000
220kg - 5000
If we assume 1% hit 140kg, then like 0.25% hit 180 and 0.03% hit 220kg.
i must become .25% of open powerlifters.
its 40% of men on open powerlifting. 139k/347k. that counts everyone from 10 year old boys to 80 year old men. its pretty safe to say AT LEAST 40% of men can make it to a 140kg bench.
If you think 40% of dudes can tryhard and hit 300+ ur out of ur mind. Gotta account for hardcap limits.
I am going to guess that those numbers are from a subset of a subset of men of population. People who bench press- already a subset. People who go to powerlifting meets- an even smaller subset of that. It's not really a representative sample of men either, it's self-selected to be people interested in powerlifting.
Which is to say the "real" numbers are probably lower.
>AT LEAST 40% of men can make it to a 140kg bench.
How many can do it without bulking to a bw of 100kg?
Took me 3 years to get a 100kg bench and once i started training in a bodybuilding fashion and actually bulking i went from that as a 1rm to 130kg bench at 80 kg in a month
Bench press is one of those things that you have to capitalize on whilst its going up. Heavy as frick bench is the one thing thatll go when you cut, too.
You have a short period of time where everything is working well (shoulders, form, chest..idk) and itll shoot up granted you keep eating
Cutting tip just eat a shit load as lomg as its before lifting and dont be afraid to do some legs or something before youre back at 100% just to eat 1500+ while losing weight.
Thr trick is eating carbs 2hrs before then a giant meal 15 min before. I was maintaing st like 4000 calories with beer and liquor. You hit a hard metabolism wall when you cut so much youre noticeably weaker. The lomger youre hungry the lower it gets znd youll have to work so much more on your bulk.
Aside from ohp, bench is the hardest shit to progress. Every 5-10 kg is a struggle. People tend to plateau for years, get discouraged. Sometimes, even gear doesnt help. Compare that to diddylift were a zoom can crunch his way to 4 plates in less than a year, and you have a hellish lift and rightfull merit of stenght and techniques.
So basically, 1 plate is common but obviously you need to lift to manage it.
2 plate is uncommon and basically a normie god.
3 plate and up is absolute gym elite, when repping it even for 3-5 reps - beast mode, 70% chance of blasting gear if a guy isnt a giant fat motherfricker.
Depends on the gym. 315 is less than 1% though. And even that is mostly due to steroids. I plateaued at 275 for a while and hit 315 easily my first cycle while intentionally not training for strength
Aside from homosexuals swinging dicks in this thread, I think that 1 plate is ok for starters, 2 plates are respectsble in general.
I bench 140-150 for 3-5 reps, people tend to look at me in droves. That said, there is a guy in my gym at my bw of 90-92kg , he benches 230-240 kg at competitions. I'm natty though, and he is roided to absolute max, hence being an elite bencher
depends on your height, if you're like 6'1+ you should be hitting 2pl8 in less than 6 months or you're a weak little b***h
Bench is harder for lanklets. If you're sub 6'0 it's much easier
unless you compete and its a competition lift - no one needs flat barbell bench to build massive and strong chest, delts, tris
there are alot of big benchers who famously small, like atg barbell squat you have to be built for it
everyone with a big bench will tell you it is the first lift affected by weight, weight goes up bench goes up, weight comes down its the first lift to suffer
Depends if we're including roiders or not. Most natties are stuck betwen 135-225 or 225-315
>tfw stuck at 165 for 8 reps on BP
>will never make it to 225
I want to kill myself so bad
>Always thought I would injury myself doing more than 165 on the bench
>stall for 1 year
>never do more than 165 for 8 reps
>decide to put on 175
>do 175x5 for 2 sets easy
I cucked myself for 1 years out of gains
Big problem for people trying to bench is the limited scapular movement and the body not catching up when it comes to other muscles involved.
How strong is your lats/teres minor and major? how strong are your rear delts/ supraspinatus muscles? are you benching everyday? what's the last time you stopped doing bench and shifter to dips/full stretch training?
At some point, because the nature of the movement, you face a stonewall like you do on the OHP; because your muscles are limited for the movement, being theoretically a compound.
Ladder sets of 2, 3, 5 got me to 235 despite being a lanklet noodle natural.
I got to 100kg (including bar) as a manlet just by doing 5, 4, 3, 2, 2. Reps and getting each number to 5 before upping weights by 2.5kg, funny shit.
>100kg (including bar)
this was a good one it might actually confuse people
Plates total: 80kg, bar 20kg. Classic weightlifting jokes.
Strongest guy in my gym maxes about 180lbs on a good day. Kinda pathetic.
Anyway, homegym masterrace reporting in.
In my commercial gym EU (purely my estimates):
60kg - 70kg > most dyels, very few newbies who just started working out go for like 50kg. If they do 60kg for reps they are new. [9/10 benchers]
70kg - 80kg > dyels who actually are pushing themselves and increasing weight bit by bit. [6/10 benchers]
80kg - 90kg > quite a bit of regulars, permastuck still dyel [3/10 benchers]
90kg - 99kg > that's where I'm at, either strong guys warming up for bigger lifts or dyel'ish people like me working up to 2pl8 [2/10 benchers]
100kg > Stronger dudes [ maybe 1/10 benchers ] Either they are fit and look the part or are older TRT freaks, there are a couple of fat dads with unreasonable amount of strength compared to how they look too.
100-120kg > 4-5 guys total
130-140kg > seen it twice, one is by a tall bulky zoomer with enormous back, dude really has some size (he also did holds with 4pl8t) and a couple of times by a fat powershitter who deadlifts a lot.
lets get it bench bros
just hit my bench pr of 178(estimated) I'm weak as shit at 5'11" and 162 lbs but I've made a ton of progress the past ~7 months
bro we weigh the same
you can get it
thanks homie I'll get there great work by you
yeah probably. I weighed ~205 around this time last year which is the fattest I've ever been in my entire life and bought my rack and weights/barbell as a gift to myself for losing 40 pounds and I'm afraid to put weight back on. I've gone from 26% to 18% bf lifting 4x per week since.
damn homie you need to eat more
In my gym is
1x 4pl8 bench (me)
1x 3pl8 bench (obese manlet)
~10x 2pl8 bench (some zoomer sarm goblins, some long term lifters)
Any adult male x 1pl8 bench
Dunno about percentages but I just loaded up 2pl8 for the first time ever and hit 9 reps. I have what I think are pretty average genes, about 4 years into lifting (maybe 3 into lifting seriously). I definitely could have hit it sooner with better nutrition or programming, so for 1rm I think virtually anyone could do it. Percentage that actually would? Maybe 1 in 3 gymgoing men, 1 in 20 general population men is my guess. Women's numbers will be astronomically lower because it's so much rarer for women to even try and so much harder even for those who do.
interesting, whats your height/weight?
5'10" and 193 lbs. Maybe 20% bf? Definitely have some fat I could cut but not a ton, was stuck at like 180 lbs for a long time and my lifts weren't budging much, now they're flying up. Adding reps or weight every week.
225 is like 30% of the gym [not including women/people who only do cardio]
315 is around 1%, same goes for 405