Cooking meat began because some tribes didnt know how to keep their meat, so cooking it coated the spoiling flavour.
There is nothing wrong with fresh raw meat unless you buy it from walmart which means it comes from a grain fed cow pumped full of hormones
What are you on about? Cooking meat makes it more easily digestible allowing for the body to spend less energy digesting while also extracting more nutrients.
In the case of pasteurised milk that's only to extend shelf life. As for what you said about meat, you're correct in saying that doing so also extends shelf life but you're wrong in saying uncooked meat is as good for you as cooked meat.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>In the case of pasteurised milk that's only to extend shelf life
Absolutely false. Read a history of Louis Pasteur.
yes. cows shit while they walk, cows walk in shit, cows get shit on their udders. shit inevitably gets in milk.
cryptosporidiosis is healthy now? weird i missed the memo on that one
9 months ago
Anonymous
As far as I know herbivore shit is safe to eat. Of course this would be rancid subhuman behaviour reserved for the barely human Indians. But there is nothing unhealthy about drinking raw milk besides the fact that it has a lot of kcal. A LOT of kcal. Healthy though.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>But there is nothing unhealthy about drinking raw milk
Anon, pasteurization was developed because raw milk is an excellent vector for disease.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Well, that hardly matters if it's not industrially manufactured and transported hundreds of miles, does it?
yes. cows shit while they walk, cows walk in shit, cows get shit on their udders. shit inevitably gets in milk.
cryptosporidiosis is healthy now? weird i missed the memo on that one
AND before you even spout off >muh immune system
go inhale anthrax spores or smallpox bacterium, lets see how strong your immune system is then
9 months ago
Anonymous
lol pasteurising the milk kills healthy bacteria that helps with absorption
kys if you think its better than raw
9 months ago
Anonymous
it also kills bacteria that kill you, kys via tainted milk if you think thats better than pasteurized
9 months ago
Anonymous
ok gay, youre probably one of those homosexuals that eats "light" versions of foods
who gives a shit, food is made to fuel
>digestion doesnt matter when it comes to fueling
9 months ago
Anonymous
you can digest pasteurized milk just fine, its fuel for the body. drink it or not it doesn't matter, much better options in getting your nutrients and calories. its why we weren't all sitting underneath a cow tit all day
9 months ago
Anonymous
go inject yourself with HIV then if you're that much of a bugchaser. medieval thinking ass moron
>some tribes
Tribes of homosexual Erectus? No shit they didn't know how to preserve meat. They were developing language for the first time. Dumb Black person.
Except they didn't the closest humans came to eat raw meat regularly was back when we were essentially chimps. When we became Savanah dwelling we scavenged and a lot of the meat was closer to jerky since it was the shit other animals didn't want.
We also ate a shit ton of grains since we lived in large grasslands and it would be moronic to think we didn't adapt to eating the extremely plentiful grass seeds surrounding us.
No I am sure our primal ancestors demanded to know where their meals were sourced and just didn't eat the extremely plentiful plants and grains.
And organs were extremely rare because many large predators prioritize the organs so we mostly ate the tough harder to access meat.
Grains were shit until people started agriculture. And for a while they were still shit because selective breeding takes forever. This means they were eating it before there were massive populations to sustain
Damn, did all of the ancient hominids also have a camera crew equipped with tranquilizer guns in order to scare the lions away whenever they wanted some meat?
Fricking moron.
How do idiots like you explain the hunter gatherer tribes in the modern world that all eat fresh raw meat immediately after making a kill? They also don't eat mainly grains because they don't farm.
Midwit opinion. Corrected: many factors potentiate the risk factor of cancer. Think of it like this: your risk is X * 100 = Y with X being the risk factor and Y your statistical probability to contract cancer before let's say age 60. Now many factors can potentiate this risk factor, like smoking, certain chemicals and very likely more than we don't know the correlation to (yet). Now let's call these factors Z. XZ * 100 = Y' with Y' > Y
the richest and most 'educated' still do this shit, what's your fetish with posting this over and over?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Help me out here, I'm stupid.
What is going on in this picture? Is he inserting something in his ass? Is he farting and the other dude is catching it?
9 months ago
Anonymous
My outside guess, based entirely on taking archaeology 101 at community college in 2006, is that it's an enema-like procedure. The reclining man has visible ribs and a frown, which to me indicates sickness, and the standing man is using a tool to pour medicine in to his anus.
Natural is what we are evolutionarily adapted to. Modernity has lasted for only a few generations, so we are absolutely not equipped for it on a biological level.
Not true. There are examples of neanderthals altruistically taking care of their old and disabled.
Even secluded primitive tribes have old people roaming the village.
People weren't meant to live past their 50s. We were made to live fast, reproduce a shit ton of kids, guide them a little ways and let their environment take control, die. Not stick around a play checkers while sitting over a bedpan or stinking up the lines at market checkouts.
look up life history theory
fast life history is for Black folk who never had to deal with seasonal weather changes or any sort of long term resource planning
This is such a moronic take that it's not even fricking funny. Childbirth takes a long time and leaves the female unable to move normally for a few day, and a human baby is literally incapable of doing anything by itself, for at least 2 to 3 fricking years. We are far from a species that was meant to have a shit ton of kids in a quick amount of time, since our infants take a very long time to develop and become autonomous .
The gifts of modern technology and medicine have gradually made ups genetically weak and unfit. I wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage of the current population would just die if we suddenly went back to the stone age. I say this admitting this includes me.
>gradually
It has taken like 100 years to push human violation to the brink of near-constant collapse after the mass availability of antibiotics and other such western medicine.
Sabretooth cats, wolves, e.coli infections, childbirth, broken bones, malaria, etc.
All killed people way before cancer could, some of the lucky ones probably lived long enough to show they tribe their tumors which were probably thought as signs from the old gods.
This is fricking stupid by the way. Your body gets millions of mutated (pre-cancerous) cells a day which get killed by your immune system cells (mostly phagocytes). Cancer is mostly a symptom of a compromised immune system. Now you shouldn't just consume every carcinogen you come across - many are also directly toxic which actually DOES increase your risk of cancer because the toxins kill your immune cells, but many substances like saltpeter are at most minimally cancer producing.
The horrifying answer is that many did, more so during the Erectus era (I forgot what they're classified as now). That's when archaic humans started using fire and many likely did get cancer and die from exposure. Then genes that are more aggressive at killing cancer cells and deleting mutations became more selected for. This is when are brains started getting significantly bigger.
>can create >little doses
You gotta live a loong life to get your colon cancer from eating grilled meat and then archeologists won't find your cancer on the fossilized bones.
They did, they died horrible deaths from cancer after starting to cook meat. Cooking meat is emblematic of the start of the fall of humankind.
Evolution-deniers don't you think it's awfully conicidental that raw meat, like any other animal other than the autist human, doesn't suffer from any harmful properties yet cooking it can give you cancer? Obviously you can't just swing a chicken off a supermarket shelf and eat it straight because the whole process allows too much time for pathogens to accumulate in the meat.
Let's not confuse things, I'm not some ketard, I advocate mostly plant-based. However if it's fresh meat you can eat it no problem.
Also they call diets with high meat as being "paleo", it's not paleo at all. Paleo ate a lot less meat and more fruit and vegetables, the further back you go the more fruit they ate until you reach the apes where it's the vast majority fruit. Fruit is incredibly good for you and better than meat, though meat can be used to complement it.
How do you know they didn't? Exposure to carcinogens (aka literally anything and everything) doesn't cause instantaneous life ending cancer lol it's damage that accumulates over decades which in turn result later on in a higher likelihood of cancer than one might otherwise have had. Even shit like smoking cigarettes you'll often get a solid 40 years of doing it before the irreversible consequences hit, and that's a pretty strong carcinogen compared to most other shit.
I'm gonna enjoy my oats, roast my potatoes and have my steak medium rare and there's nothing you homosexual moronic VIRGINS can say to stop me, simple as.
They didn't live long enough to get cancer. Median life expectancy was 50. And yes, that is when you exclude people who die before 10. With that it's more like 30.
Because infant mortality rate is far higher bringing the entire average way down portraying a wrong image. Idk if there's a cure for moronation pal, sorry
Because it's not as useful of a number for understanding what would be natrual lifespan of an animal. At least natrual in the sense of without deadly pathogens or accidents. "in the wild" tends to make everything about life expectancy skew towards a lot not making it to adulthood.
Most science is fraudulent. The problem is worse in "nutrition science" which is a load of industry funded biased surveys. There has never been a single controlled clinical trial that showed any causal relationship between meat and cancer.
Everythibg gives cancer and prevents it.
Fried half a kilo of spinach once is equivalent of eating half a kilo of bacon for years.
The other statement about open flame is just beyond moronation. Who does cook meat in the open flame? Vegans will do dumb shit just to get the desired result of the study.
>How did cavemen not all die of cancer?
I heard once that in an old study from about 100 years ago, they did some autopsies and found cancer SCARS inside the corpses.
There was a lot less pollution in the air back then. I would say that they experienced a lot less inflammation in total than us, despite grilling stuff all the time. Plus fruits back then were full of antioxidants, modern fruits in supermarkets are mostly sugary snacks without any worthwhile nutrition. Try home grown tomatoes vs super market ones. Traditional garden tomatoes have this meaty (like actual meat) taste, and are a lot more sour (often that means high antioxidant amount). Supermarket ones are just sugary water inside.
>may
Correlation can never prove causation. Therefore cavemen disprove the grilled meats cause cancer hypothesis. Epidemiology is only useful at forming hypotheses, however, if there is no correlation, there is no causation.
People are so hellbent on denying it was because of raw animals. Anything to defend their sugar addiction. Hopefully society actually collapses years later so they'll come to find this truth out themselves when the vegetables they're getting from their stores aren't found in nature.
They ate meat raw
moron
Cooking meat began because some tribes didnt know how to keep their meat, so cooking it coated the spoiling flavour.
There is nothing wrong with fresh raw meat unless you buy it from walmart which means it comes from a grain fed cow pumped full of hormones
What are you on about? Cooking meat makes it more easily digestible allowing for the body to spend less energy digesting while also extracting more nutrients.
Nope, it is what I said. Do you believe pasteurised milk is more nutritious than raw milk?
In the case of pasteurised milk that's only to extend shelf life. As for what you said about meat, you're correct in saying that doing so also extends shelf life but you're wrong in saying uncooked meat is as good for you as cooked meat.
>In the case of pasteurised milk that's only to extend shelf life
Absolutely false. Read a history of Louis Pasteur.
yes. cows shit while they walk, cows walk in shit, cows get shit on their udders. shit inevitably gets in milk.
cryptosporidiosis is healthy now? weird i missed the memo on that one
As far as I know herbivore shit is safe to eat. Of course this would be rancid subhuman behaviour reserved for the barely human Indians. But there is nothing unhealthy about drinking raw milk besides the fact that it has a lot of kcal. A LOT of kcal. Healthy though.
>But there is nothing unhealthy about drinking raw milk
Anon, pasteurization was developed because raw milk is an excellent vector for disease.
Well, that hardly matters if it's not industrially manufactured and transported hundreds of miles, does it?
AND before you even spout off
>muh immune system
go inhale anthrax spores or smallpox bacterium, lets see how strong your immune system is then
lol pasteurising the milk kills healthy bacteria that helps with absorption
kys if you think its better than raw
it also kills bacteria that kill you, kys via tainted milk if you think thats better than pasteurized
ok gay, youre probably one of those homosexuals that eats "light" versions of foods
>digestion doesnt matter when it comes to fueling
you can digest pasteurized milk just fine, its fuel for the body. drink it or not it doesn't matter, much better options in getting your nutrients and calories. its why we weren't all sitting underneath a cow tit all day
go inject yourself with HIV then if you're that much of a bugchaser. medieval thinking ass moron
who gives a shit, food is made to fuel
>some tribes
Tribes of homosexual Erectus? No shit they didn't know how to preserve meat. They were developing language for the first time. Dumb Black person.
Except they didn't the closest humans came to eat raw meat regularly was back when we were essentially chimps. When we became Savanah dwelling we scavenged and a lot of the meat was closer to jerky since it was the shit other animals didn't want.
We also ate a shit ton of grains since we lived in large grasslands and it would be moronic to think we didn't adapt to eating the extremely plentiful grass seeds surrounding us.
No I am sure our primal ancestors demanded to know where their meals were sourced and just didn't eat the extremely plentiful plants and grains.
And organs were extremely rare because many large predators prioritize the organs so we mostly ate the tough harder to access meat.
why would they eat grass lol
Yep we just decided one day to eat grains for no reason... gosh you shills are stupid. Go throat a raw liver and leave the rest ofnus alone.
Grains only came by to sustain massive populations. Cavemen mostly ate meat.
Grains were shit until people started agriculture. And for a while they were still shit because selective breeding takes forever. This means they were eating it before there were massive populations to sustain
>We also ate a shit ton of grains
stopped reading there
>hominids were humble little scavengers who never ate anything good
No Black person. No.
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Damn, did all of the ancient hominids also have a camera crew equipped with tranquilizer guns in order to scare the lions away whenever they wanted some meat?
Fricking moron.
Yes, lions are scared of black people. What's your point?
Kek. Blacks get slaughtered by lions daily in Africa.
How do idiots like you explain the hunter gatherer tribes in the modern world that all eat fresh raw meat immediately after making a kill? They also don't eat mainly grains because they don't farm.
>Humans were just humble little scavengers which is why they caused a mass extinction
maybe they did. why do you think they didnt?
Of course they did. Here's a homonid toe bone with cancer from 1.7 million years ago. OP is a moronic homosexual like usual.
>die
Cave-bro clearly cut that toe off.
merely a flesh wound
The bible says early humans were living hundreds of years so now you feel pretty dumb, huh
Cancer can't kill you if you pretend it doesn't exist. They didn't know it existed so it didn't kill them.
Everything causes cancer
Midwit opinion. Corrected: many factors potentiate the risk factor of cancer. Think of it like this: your risk is X * 100 = Y with X being the risk factor and Y your statistical probability to contract cancer before let's say age 60. Now many factors can potentiate this risk factor, like smoking, certain chemicals and very likely more than we don't know the correlation to (yet). Now let's call these factors Z. XZ * 100 = Y' with Y' > Y
A spear chuck a day
Keeps the cancer away
Natural lifestyle. Not constantly consuming and breathing in toxic chemicals.
Define natural.
Kill animal, sex with grugina, sleep
We still do this but the goals have changed. Natural is the current state, everything is natural. That word doesn't mean anything, it's photonics.
What a moronic post.
low energy
>muh ''''''""""noble""""""" savages
the richest and most 'educated' still do this shit, what's your fetish with posting this over and over?
Help me out here, I'm stupid.
What is going on in this picture? Is he inserting something in his ass? Is he farting and the other dude is catching it?
My outside guess, based entirely on taking archaeology 101 at community college in 2006, is that it's an enema-like procedure. The reclining man has visible ribs and a frown, which to me indicates sickness, and the standing man is using a tool to pour medicine in to his anus.
Natural is what we are evolutionarily adapted to. Modernity has lasted for only a few generations, so we are absolutely not equipped for it on a biological level.
>Photonics
>low energy
So like infrared or what?
Holy shit you're moronic.
Nature is anything that’s there without humans having put it there
So humans are natural but what they make isn't
Is what a monkey does unnatural because a monkey did it?
they only lived to like 50 or whatever before cancer happens
This. Way less than 50 though, 30 years old or so.
Not true. There are examples of neanderthals altruistically taking care of their old and disabled.
Even secluded primitive tribes have old people roaming the village.
People weren't meant to live past their 50s. We were made to live fast, reproduce a shit ton of kids, guide them a little ways and let their environment take control, die. Not stick around a play checkers while sitting over a bedpan or stinking up the lines at market checkouts.
Expected lifespan was 70 (if childhood mortality was ignored)
Elephants in the wild don't get cancer, elphants in captivity constantly die from cancer. What mean?
Elephant in the wild do in fact get cancer
look up life history theory
fast life history is for Black folk who never had to deal with seasonal weather changes or any sort of long term resource planning
This is such a moronic take that it's not even fricking funny. Childbirth takes a long time and leaves the female unable to move normally for a few day, and a human baby is literally incapable of doing anything by itself, for at least 2 to 3 fricking years. We are far from a species that was meant to have a shit ton of kids in a quick amount of time, since our infants take a very long time to develop and become autonomous .
The gifts of modern technology and medicine have gradually made ups genetically weak and unfit. I wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage of the current population would just die if we suddenly went back to the stone age. I say this admitting this includes me.
It's a burden.
>gradually
It has taken like 100 years to push human violation to the brink of near-constant collapse after the mass availability of antibiotics and other such western medicine.
Sabretooth cats, wolves, e.coli infections, childbirth, broken bones, malaria, etc.
All killed people way before cancer could, some of the lucky ones probably lived long enough to show they tribe their tumors which were probably thought as signs from the old gods.
Because meat and grilling doesn't cause cancer. Obesity, lack of sunlight, underutilized immune systems, and ~~*food safe*~~ chemicals do it
Diseases didn’t exist before the agricultural revolution
This is fricking stupid by the way. Your body gets millions of mutated (pre-cancerous) cells a day which get killed by your immune system cells (mostly phagocytes). Cancer is mostly a symptom of a compromised immune system. Now you shouldn't just consume every carcinogen you come across - many are also directly toxic which actually DOES increase your risk of cancer because the toxins kill your immune cells, but many substances like saltpeter are at most minimally cancer producing.
because they died of lion eating their face first
>cancer did not exist until it could be identified by modern technical advancements
How do you even function in everyday life?
Being fat is a higher risk of cancer than eating cooked meat. Also by the time most cancer appears from cooking meat people are in their 60s.
The horrifying answer is that many did, more so during the Erectus era (I forgot what they're classified as now). That's when archaic humans started using fire and many likely did get cancer and die from exposure. Then genes that are more aggressive at killing cancer cells and deleting mutations became more selected for. This is when are brains started getting significantly bigger.
>can create
>little doses
You gotta live a loong life to get your colon cancer from eating grilled meat and then archeologists won't find your cancer on the fossilized bones.
they didn't live long enough to die from it
>may
Died at 23. Literally every other answer is grifting headcanon.
They did, they died horrible deaths from cancer after starting to cook meat. Cooking meat is emblematic of the start of the fall of humankind.
Evolution-deniers don't you think it's awfully conicidental that raw meat, like any other animal other than the autist human, doesn't suffer from any harmful properties yet cooking it can give you cancer? Obviously you can't just swing a chicken off a supermarket shelf and eat it straight because the whole process allows too much time for pathogens to accumulate in the meat.
Let's not confuse things, I'm not some ketard, I advocate mostly plant-based. However if it's fresh meat you can eat it no problem.
Also they call diets with high meat as being "paleo", it's not paleo at all. Paleo ate a lot less meat and more fruit and vegetables, the further back you go the more fruit they ate until you reach the apes where it's the vast majority fruit. Fruit is incredibly good for you and better than meat, though meat can be used to complement it.
what load of frickin shit
>Just eat it raw right when you kill it
They're called parasites, and they're a lot worse for you than cooking
>fall of mankind
Basically every notable achievement and all modern brain development after developing opposable thumbs came after cooking meat.
How do you know they didn't? Exposure to carcinogens (aka literally anything and everything) doesn't cause instantaneous life ending cancer lol it's damage that accumulates over decades which in turn result later on in a higher likelihood of cancer than one might otherwise have had. Even shit like smoking cigarettes you'll often get a solid 40 years of doing it before the irreversible consequences hit, and that's a pretty strong carcinogen compared to most other shit.
I'm gonna enjoy my oats, roast my potatoes and have my steak medium rare and there's nothing you homosexual moronic VIRGINS can say to stop me, simple as.
give me your address, ill stop you. What? you wont? thought so pussy.
Frick off glowie
Yeah. I add pasteurized milk/yogurt with pasteurized honey. Cry more
Yeah you dont like oats, nobody does.
Nobody enjoys oats without adding other shit to it lol
They didn't live long enough to get cancer. Median life expectancy was 50. And yes, that is when you exclude people who die before 10. With that it's more like 30.
This is false. have a nice day for making up shit and posting it.
>and yes, that is when you exclude people who die before 10
Why the frick would they be excluded in a life expectancy average you fricking moron?
Because infant mortality rate is far higher bringing the entire average way down portraying a wrong image. Idk if there's a cure for moronation pal, sorry
Because it's not as useful of a number for understanding what would be natrual lifespan of an animal. At least natrual in the sense of without deadly pathogens or accidents. "in the wild" tends to make everything about life expectancy skew towards a lot not making it to adulthood.
They all had a glorious morning.
Pufa and sugar fuel cancer.
How do you know they didn't?
Most science is fraudulent. The problem is worse in "nutrition science" which is a load of industry funded biased surveys. There has never been a single controlled clinical trial that showed any causal relationship between meat and cancer.
They didn’t live long enough to get it.
More than likely some did get cancer quite early on and their genes became selected against.
Everythibg gives cancer and prevents it.
Fried half a kilo of spinach once is equivalent of eating half a kilo of bacon for years.
The other statement about open flame is just beyond moronation. Who does cook meat in the open flame? Vegans will do dumb shit just to get the desired result of the study.
>How did cavemen not all die of cancer?
I heard once that in an old study from about 100 years ago, they did some autopsies and found cancer SCARS inside the corpses.
The cold got them instead.
fasting
>How did cavemen not all die of cancer?
They did. What makes you think they died before procreating?
There was a lot less pollution in the air back then. I would say that they experienced a lot less inflammation in total than us, despite grilling stuff all the time. Plus fruits back then were full of antioxidants, modern fruits in supermarkets are mostly sugary snacks without any worthwhile nutrition. Try home grown tomatoes vs super market ones. Traditional garden tomatoes have this meaty (like actual meat) taste, and are a lot more sour (often that means high antioxidant amount). Supermarket ones are just sugary water inside.
Everyone dies of cancer if you live long enough
carcinogens causing cancer in humans is a myth.
there are gut bacteria that specifically break down charred meat chemicals
because they died of other shit first
>may
Correlation can never prove causation. Therefore cavemen disprove the grilled meats cause cancer hypothesis. Epidemiology is only useful at forming hypotheses, however, if there is no correlation, there is no causation.
People are so hellbent on denying it was because of raw animals. Anything to defend their sugar addiction. Hopefully society actually collapses years later so they'll come to find this truth out themselves when the vegetables they're getting from their stores aren't found in nature.
Vaccines are the true culprit
Do you see any cavemen alive today? Exactly.
>How did cavemen not all die of cancer?
because most died from something else. Some died from cancer.