How did ketolards successfully psyop themselves into thinking this was a superfood?
>no protein
>no carbs
>clogs your arteries
>no vitamins or minerals except lmao 5% DV Vitamin E
How did ketolards successfully psyop themselves into thinking this was a superfood?
>no protein
>no carbs
>clogs your arteries
>no vitamins or minerals except lmao 5% DV Vitamin E
The grifters painted the USDA and scientists as evil, so anything that they said was "bad", but be the total opposite. The USDA said "eat less better", so butter must be a health food and you should eat as much as you want.
The usda and scientists are evil. Ketolards are equally idiots, sent away to become jackasses on pleasure island.
Unfortunately this is where a lot of contrarian edgelords and conspiracy theorists go wrong: if they tell us X than it must mean the complete opposite.
>nutrient dense vegetable oil
they are exactly wrong
>sparkling water is nutrient dense
mineral water
Damn are americans so fricking stupid
i would bet your government recommendations are the same
I don't listen to the government
it's still a reasonable heuristic
It's not reasonable when all the keto advocates are obese or on steroids. Especially when their boogeyman Ancel Keys lived to 100.
The USDA is forced by law to both provide nutrition advice, and represent industry
That's why they will always do bad at both.
No profit to be made in saying you should only eat minimally processed high fiber foods.
> No profit to be made in saying you should only eat minimally processed high fiber foods.
But that’s essentially the food pyramid you dummy
Ketolards are moronic, but the USDA will say whatever they are paid to. Grains, especially corn, are not just a huge industry, they are given subsidies that are even more sacred than the funding we give to Israel. Do you think any government agency is going to tell us if there is something wrong with eating corn or grains?
> Do you think any government agency is going to tell us if there is something wrong with eating corn or grains?
No, because there’s nothing wrong with eating them
Your check is in the mail, Mr. Anon.
>Do you think any government agency is going to tell us if there is something wrong with eating corn or grains?
Of course, because that would mean they could end subsidies and put the money into their pet projects. Why do you think keto became popular in the first place?
I don’t see what’s wrong with using 5 grams of butter to cook my eggs, vegangay. You can post these grifters and shock jock videos all you want but there is literally nothing wrong with eating meat, veggies and dairy.
Literally this, ketolards function on 16 year old alt dude logic, that being, reject anything that is mainstream, wich ironically lets the mainstream decide what you consume anyway
>The grifters painted the USDA and scientists as evil
No the USDA and scientists did that to themselves by being evil
it's a test to see who is stupid enough to do it
I like the one where the lady breaks her arm.
I like the one where some hoodlum kicks the boxes a guy is trying to stand on and he eats shit
Because it's healthy fats!!
there's nothing wrong with using butter, dietgays are just autistic
He’s eating what appears to be a large loaf of butter. Not using butter, just butter. A loaf of butter.
he's also video recording it for the world to see. it's autism
>eat butter
>I meant better
Sure, but that's looks to be somewhere between five and ten kilograms of butter, excessive by any standard.
For you
i prefer using water and making my pans act like pots
your arteries
seed oils do this not butter
Okay lets do a little experiment: shove a stick of butter down one side of your kitchen sink and a cup of vegetable oil down the other. Now, which side drains better?
neither would clog if it was body temperature
by this logic broccoli and all solid foods clog your arteries while all fats that melt at body temperature do not
You do not understand how atherosclerosis works or even what it is. At all. I'm not even taking sides on the "seed oil vs. butter" debate and I'm not going to, but "butter clogs your sink, therefore it clogs your arteries" just isn't how it works. It has a little more basis than "this plant looks like a dick, therefore it must be an aphrodisiac," but just a little. Please stick to posting about things you understand.
Now do a control, shove a stick of butter up your ass.
After that do a seed oil enema.
I kekd way too hard at this. They’re the same drain, moron.
The dude in the OP is butterdawg he is known for his keto high fat diets and stunts where he eats multiple entire sticks of butter, drinks like 16 oz melted butter, eats animal penis, eats 15lbs of ground beef in single sittings. He promotes keto carnivore shit. He’s just coasting off the liver king grift shock value technique.
He at one point gave into people demanding he has blood work done and it showed he had high cholesterol but basically said
>yeah well I’m lean so this isn’t really all that concerning, it’s probably just free floating fat in my blood
His name is butterdawg. He’s known for eating entire sticks of butter by themselves. He’s not just putting some butter on his eggs in a well balanced diet getting a healthy wide range of fats. His diet is entirely about shock value for social media and it’s like keto fatty schizo if ketofattyschizo actually did some form of exercise (he’s a rower) and was already an in shape athlete before assuming the moronic diet. And even then (see above) he managed to make himself less healthy by way of increasing his cholesterol to high levels via diet.
>REEEE HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS MUCH ABOUT E CELEBS CRINGE!
I bet you really looked up to that attention hungry aunt of yours who bragged about not making a Facebook any chance she got.
Can you read? I don’t give a frick what some YouTube personality’s idea of the keto diet is. Anyone who follows a ketogenic diet by way of YouTube personalities is going to die regardless of what diet they follow because they’re not smart enough to read the dozen plus studies that require you to restrict your total calories on keto. Macros are strictly followed. As in, you’re not following the keto diet if you’re eating 3 pounds of butter. Period.
Even the subreddit that Moxyte spends days trolling has a side bar with a macro calculator.
>equire you to restrict your total calories on keto
No calorie restriction is needed on low-carb.
Low-carb WITHOUT restriction works better than calorie restricted low-fat.
False, dozens of studies including the one you posted controlled for total energy consumption. Keto doesn’t work without IIFYM
More than nine studies have compared unlimited calorie low-carb with alternative diets.
Unlimited calorie low-carb wins every time.
I guarantee the “unlimited calorie” group is just getting full faster with more satiating foods, and are thus eating under their TDEE regardless of counting. I’ve done keto with and without counting and ended up eating the same amount of food intake. I plateaued when my TDEE leveled out.
Blood markers improved or stayed the same both times.
>low carb is more filling
>people consume less food and less calories
>people lose weight
wow its almost as if its all CICO after all
Truth.
CICO+Keto+LISS is cheat code for fat loss
Just get your carbs around and after your workout and you’re Gucci
LISS?
wow i guess everything in the universe is thermodynamics, afterall
guess we can close the book on all fields of research, then. job's done.
high carb is actually much more satiating than high fat, i've tried both (to gain weight) and only high-fat worked.
also carbs are muscle loading, they give you enduring physical and mental strength. high fat only works when in actual ketosis which is close to impossible to achive for training people (you need to eat low protein as well since proteins convert to carbs and prevent ketosis).
overall, carbs are more dangerous for lardtards because they taste better, but for normal people carbs are better than fat. fat isn't stored in muscle tissue, it will either go to immediate energy if you're deficit or maintaining or will be stored as fat if you're bulking.
if you're bulking, fat will make you fat. simple as.
>I don’t see the problem with using 5 grams of butter to cook my eggs
>okay cool but the guy in the picture who I am speaking on isn’t using a measly 5gs just to cook eggs, he’s consuming pounds at a time with no science based logic to his diet, or any logic other than “fat good” his diet isn’t well rounded at all
>idgaf Stfu [details the entire point I made using the figure relevant to this thread as an example for that point by instead using some fat discord troony and unironically referencing reddit]
You good?
Mad
You’re a fricking moron and don’t deserve to talk to me, but I’ll entertain you anyways.
>in no way is eating that much butter considered keto, or healthy, by anyone. In fact eating that quantity of literally anything is at the very least going to cause serious gastrointestinal stress. The sole intent of this image is stirring dogmatic diet discourse.
>beyond just the image, the op made the comment that there is no nutritional benefit to eating butter when that’s objectively false. Could even be nutritionally negligible at normal qualities (i.e. 5g of butter to cook with)
>the op made the comment that there is no nutritional benefit to eating butter when that’s objectively false.
Lmao
What's the benefit?
>uhhh, don't starve to death??
inb4
>dairy industry studies showing butter maybe might not probably wont clog your arteries
> What's the benefit?
Google it moron
>inb4 all soience is bought and paid for and you can’t trust anything online but you can trust me bro I swear dairy and meat is bad for you
Are you israeli by chance?
>uhmn butter is super healthy guys!!
>"do you have any evidence at all for your claims?"
>NO! YOU israelite!
Something something burden of proof
>Something something
what kind of millennial high-school dropout shit is this
Go back
The benefit is saturated fats help promote testosterone production as well as influence other hormones. No one should ever avoid fat, you need a range of all fat types. morons like this homosexual >72605842 self admitted redditor (makes
ironic) barely know what they’re talking about and conflate any mention of dietary fats or keto to be ketoschizo doing le epic trolling for his discord so the basis of their discussion roots to that every single time, which is why he started b***hin & whining that you need to google. This moron also will not post his body with a timestamp when asked to do so
Post body you fat israelite. With timestamp. Why don’t you show how that keto is treating you
>saturated fats help promote testosterone production
And your body manufactures all it needs. There is absolutely Z E R O evidence that dietary saturated fat is needed or raises testosterone in any way.
>you need a range of all fat types
You need omega 3s. That's it.
Are you a vegan by chance?
Nope
You keep making claims about butter's benefits but have not posted a single study.
i said saturated fat not butter
>There is absolutely Z E R O evidence that dietary carbohydrate is needed or raises testosterone in any way
ftfy. saturated fat has been shown to increase testosterone
> conflate any mention of dietary fats or keto to be ketoschizo
This thread is about keto you illiterate frick.
> Post body you fat israelite. With timestamp. Why don’t you show how that keto is treating you
I don’t do keto anymore. I cycle 60g-100g for more energy for lifting. I dropped 30lbs on it over covid lockdowns, though and I felt great. Not posting body though, find someone else to jerk off to, homosexual
Kys Moxyte
>thread is about keto
>acts as if he didn’t just throw a fit complaining about me using the OP picrel guy as an example to answer OPs question, then turn around and do the same make the same argument and explanation with moxyte instead
It sounds like you have a crush on moxyte
>60g-100g
Good.
>not posting body
I rest my case
Honestly you’re too stupid to bother with. This entire exchange whether you realize it or not has been
>idgaf about these grifters, keto is not just stuffing you face with tons of fats
>yeah I agree dude frick these e celeb grifters and people who think keto is consuming unregulated amounts of fat with no cico/macro control, for example the face in the OP who is therefor a good semi pertinent example of this did that and managed to become unhealthy, rather than following the diet correctly
>nah uh frick you moron, I hate these e celebs and keto isn’t about just eating tons of fat with zero cico/macro control you’re wrong
>yeah that’s what I said why are you telling me I’m wrong and in the same breath rewording what I just said
>nah uh I-I bet you’re moxyte!
Like what get a grip dude
>proceeds to do it again
Consider yourself lucky someone like me even acknowledged your existence.
Mad at pixels on a screen
Yikes
>typing responses to pixels on a screen
yikes
yeah cringelords make me mad
>bet you really looked up to that attention hungry aunt of yours who bragged about not making a Facebook any chance she got.
what a goofy canned response
>muh high cholesterol
Holt shit you're moronic
>eats 15lbs of ground beef in single sittings
That's not possible
>essential omega-3 fatty acids
>vitamin K2
>vitamin A
>Conjugated linoleic acid
>Vitamin E
>cholesterol
>saturated fat
seems good to me
K2
ah yes...
my 2% DV in 10 servings
That is utterly disgusting but in 1000 years it will be a delicacy. You think the aristocrats in Japan were the first ones to eat uncooked fish wrapped in seaweed? Hell nah bro, it was the poor fricking peasants who couldn’t cook their fricking fish and just ate whatever washed ashore with it for some flavor. After a bit the aristocrats started doing it as well and made it cool for the middle class to do it too. We are just watching the poor peasants of America create the delicacy that the aristocrats of the 31st century will adopt. You may not like it, but this is the creation of culture. Bask in its warm light and recognize your own insignificance in the story of the mankind.
>what is steak tartare
>it's another ketolards use steak tartare to defend their insanity post no. 10000
why does his face look like that
it is a mystery
Diabetes
loons like rosacea, i also have that
The boy wears makeup?
What a card!
I find it weird that he takes such big bites. Also that he cooked it in the sink under hot water.
can some1 explain whats goin on with her face? it doesnt look too healthy
lol
i quoted the opposite posts frick
>face
Being fat and old will do that to you.
theres more than that in a single serving of high quality butter
>here's your grass-fed orgasmically organic butter bro
wrong
thanks for reminding me im out of butter
people who look like that eat seed oil containing processed food not butter
look at your waist
nice and lean
delusion with a side of not posting body
nope with a side no
>Body: not posted
>Penis: not found
Yup, it's ketolard time
>here's your cronometer screenshot bro
I've only seen white people do this shit.why
in germany we put raw onions and raw minced meat on a roll. its actually good. I have never seen someone eat it like her tho
K2 is literally found in animal fat, you troglodyte. It's the animal form of quinone. K1 is literally called phylloquinone because it comes from plants (phyllo meaning leaf). It's the mysterious vitamin that Weston A. Price theorized was keeping traditional tribes' teeth healthier than modern, industrialized people's cavity-ridden teeth. It's also responsible for our jaws shrinking over time, leading to issues like breathing problems, cramped teeth (and the subsequent need for orthodontics), and impacted wisdom teeth.
You can't get K2 from plants except natto (fermented basedbeans). And no one eats fricking natto. Other than that, K2 is highest in fatty, raw animal foods like raw butter. And even higher in fermented fatty animal foods. And it's also higher if the butter is from grass-fed cows.
TL;DR: You're a moron and K2 is derived from animal foods
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/04/25/despite-hopes-vitamin-k2-supplements-fail-to-slow-calcium-buildup-in-heart-valve
K2 hasn't been proven to have any health benefits besides speculation. It's a worthless "vitamin". Almost as worthless as doing fad meme diets like keto.
that was 100% MK-7 tho
My entire life my diet had been HEAVILY plant based. I would get spontaneous nosebleeds from my earliest years through early adulthood. Then I eventually started eating a diet comprised of much more meat and animal products and have not had a nosebleed since. This is because K2 is highly important to healthy blood clotting
>Researchers found no significant differences in valve calcification progression between the two groups, leading them to conclude the supplements were ineffective in slowing disease progression. However, there was some suggestion the group taking them experienced slower progression of calcification in their coronary arteries.
So the study showed no evidence of k2 supplementation slowing progression of arterial calcification, but simultaneously the study showed evidence of k2 supplementation slowing arterial calcification? What the frick? Anyone got the full study they are referencing so I can make sense of this dumbfrick writing?
Nevermond, I found it. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.121.057008
No info on sample size. Intervention group had half as many heart valve replacements and one quarter as many deaths, as well as a slower rate of arterial calcification by 17 "arbitrary units"
sounds like animal vitamin K is a good thing. almost like we evolved to eat meat and fat. crazy
The interesting thing is that if you follow the study linked in the article
>https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.121.057008
You'll find
>"In elderly men with an AVC score >300 AU, 2 years MK-7 plus vitamin D supplementation did not influence AVC progression."
MK7 being only one form K2. It turns out that different froms of what is commonly referred to as the same thing have different effects within the body and are used differently.
>In eldery men
It may very well be a fact that coronary calcification becomes impossible to reverse past a certain age as the body becomes less able to maintain itself and hence does not as effectively utilize any form of K2 as a younger man or simply that MK-7 is the wrong form of K2 for coronary calcification.
>It's a worthless "vitamin"
There are dozens of studies on forms of K2
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8483258/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866409/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7071387/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4566462/
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30816822/
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23702931/
etc. They tend to have positive effects on the body if one is deficient in a particular form.
>K2 is literally found in animal fat
And next to nothing in butter, chicken, and beef.
>except muh liver which I pretend to eat daily
Enjoy gout.
>A single chicken egg yolk can contain between 67 and 192 micrograms of vitamin K2
>most ISTizens eat half a dozen eggs or more per day
>6 down
>just 894 more eggs to go!
>muh cronometer
cute
>NOO
>you can't just use an accurate app that tracks micros from USDA and University data!
>you must believe my ramblings!
>"accurate"
sure lol. ive also got a bridge to sell you
The margin of error is negligible. If your app is stating you're eating 1500 calories and your TDEE is 2000 calories, then you should be expecting to lose about a pound per week consistently. If you're not down a consistent 4 pounds by the end of the month then you need to adjust your intake.
The point of the app isn't to give you exact readings. That's impossible. Nutrients are going to vary, regardless.
>calories
nobody is talking about calories here
??
im so confused
>my mfw when my moronic ancestors spent thousands of years eating butter, lard and suet when they should have been processing industrial maize waste into a super fat source
>my mfw
go back
>ignores the "when" part
old meme newbie
>old codger b***hes spout IESLB
Did NOT peruse past the f btw.
cope
newbie: laser designated.
>"influencer" pulls a stunt to post on yt for monetized clicks
>IST incels screech about it incessantly
and so the cycle continues
At some point, IST went from a place that antagonized other people on the internet to a place that constantly gets antagonized by other people on the internet.
Die
Ah sweet another moxyte thread
>invent 10000step process to replicate lube qualities of fat for industrial purposes
>lmao lube clogs your veins haha
Butter has the highest amount of estrogen of any food.
This is actual estrogen like women have, not that fake weak phyto-"estrogen" that some plants like onions have.
so you just make things up huh
>wowee look at the big numbers, big number scary!!!!
Those numbers don't mean anything, mamallian estrogen is many orders of magnitude stronger and more potent at the estrogen receptor than plant estrogens.
It's like comparing tren to creatine
it doesnt matter because it will act as estrogen in the body, it will signal to your balls to stop producong T anyways
i just realized that when i eat ice cream as my main calorie source my estrogen is double what it should be after accounting for bioavailability, aka my estrogen is not double what ut should be, its just i stop producing test sooner.
Jews couldnt let me have 2000 calories for 3€...i hate them so bad bros...
Make your own ice cream instead of buying pozzed ZOG-cream
>I barely mog white bread
it's so over
wow i should start eating raw suy flour,
>ITT:
>Ketolards: Whataboutism and butthurting
>ITT fat vegans who don’t know literally anything about keto
Keto requires macro counting. Literally no one following the diet properly eats 3 pounds of butter except shock jocks on YouTube and literal who grifters.
>Keto requires macro counting
I dont think so. I just eat steak and eggs and don't worry about macros
You’re inadvertently eating at maintenance or a deficit.
Yep another thread where Moxyte gets relentlessly mocked.
Typical.
You're not doing well Moxyte. You need to talk with your therapist about your rape. This is not healthy.
>Moxyte
Why is she like this? What made her this way? Ketoschizo clearly has brainfog and mental illness caused by her moronic redditor meme hairloss diet. How sad.
veganism causes hair loss?
what's that got to do with ketoschizo losing her hair? she's vegan iirc
newbie
There she is. Did you really lose your hair?
Summers over, why aren't you tucked into bed Braiydenn? Welcome to IST, enjoy your stay but make sure to lurk first next time.
>eating different causes enough stress to make people go bald
DO. FATTIES. REALLY?
Keto is directly to blame for hairloss. ~~*they*~~ want you to eat only government subsidized, expensive, unhealthy animal slop so you can pay to die, pay out less to your social security, and make you a weak fatty.
Ketolards want you to struggle with hairloss, health problems, and forcefeed you into good little cattle.
>pay out less to your social security
your schizo theories don't even make sense
>ancient spartans/romans banned slaves from eating meat because they knew the slaves would get swole and it would be hard to defeat them
>slave revolts in roman were usually gladiator revolts because they were raised to be swole because watching ISTtards fight each other would be boring
>2023
>"you can be a vegan bodybuilder"
I'm not saying eating butter is a good idea, it sounds gross and moronic actually, but the correlation between meat and muscle is pretty well established through thousands of years of gym science.
>using gladiators as an example for meat eating
lmao
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0110489
"The aim of this study is to reconstruct diverse diet, social stratification, and migration of the inhabitants of Roman Ephesus and the distinct group of gladiators. Stable carbon, nitrogen, and sulphur isotope analysis were applied, and inorganic bone elements (strontium, calcium) were determined. In total, 53 individuals, including 22 gladiators, were analysed. All individuals consumed C3 plants like wheat and barley as staple food. A few individuals show indication of consumption of C4 plants. The δ13C values of one female from the gladiator cemetery and one gladiator differ from all other individuals. Their δ34S values indicate that they probably migrated from another geographical region or consumed different foods. The δ15N values are relatively low in comparison to other sites from Roman times. A probable cause for the depletion of 15N in Ephesus could be the frequent consumption of legumes. The Sr/Ca-ratios of the gladiators were significantly higher than the values of the contemporary Roman inhabitants. Since the Sr/Ca-ratio reflects the main Ca-supplier in the diet, the elevated values of the gladiators might suggest a frequent use of a plant ash beverage, as mentioned in ancient texts."
My example is for the fact that normal slaves were fed grain while athletes were given better food, but if gladiators were fed grain instead of meat it just supports my argument that meat eaters dominant grain eaters and dietary science was used to dominate the lower classes who could not get swole in ancient societies.
>Meat eaters dominant grain eaters
Europeans went and conquered the entire planet a century ago off of hard-tack and grog.
Your Mongolian conquerors lived off of milk (35% carbs), rice (100% carbs), and millet (100% carbs).
Unless you intend to use the Eskimos as your example, the morons who died at 45 of heart disease and conquered a few frozen ponds in Alaska.
>being this mad about people being healthier than you but outside of your moral framework
>completely irrelevant response
"yeah I know we were talking about vegetarian gladiators but something something FRAMEWORK"
I'm not a woman moron say something sensible.
Meat was, is and will always be a staple food in all euro countries.
Mongolians frequently hunted animals and stole livestock during their conquests for meat.
The only culture known for being vegetarian are the pajeets, and they got defeated by a fricking loo.
All you are proving is that you are a complete and utter moron who can't distinguish between "eating more meat" and "only eating meat".
Ketolards:
>grains are a peasant food
also
>european soldiers (from peasant backgrounds) conquered the world
which one is it?
>Cites study specifically on the plants that gladiators consumed
>this is proof that they only ate plants
Fricking moron
Also
>values of one female from the gladiator cemetery
>a woman
>in a "gladiator" cemetery
There were no women gladiators, so either the Romans tossed a prostitute's body together with the rest, or what they actually discovered was a communal grave of some poorgays or slaves.
>REEEEEEEEEE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
stfu moron
There were woman gladiators
No, there weren't.
>ncient spartans/romans banned slaves from eating meat
Didn't know butter contains meat
>My whole life i was taught trans fat are from partially hydrogenated oils
>dont eat margarine because trans fats and not real
>eat muh butter
>now find out butter has trans fats by seeing 0.4g trans fats per serving on the nutritional information
can someone tell me what the frick is going on?
Are trans fats found in natural butter? when did this happen?
And i checked the ingredients and there is nothing strange in there
yeah trans fats are naturally occurring in animal foods. CLA, a popular weight loss supplement, is one. though the supp you get off the shelf is a synthetic one
theyre produced through bacterial fermentation
nutrition facts labels shouldn't be considered gospel. they didn't have to label anything but man-made trans fats until recently, and you could also round down to 0. nutrition facts labels are just what is required to be listed most of the time.
>trans fats are naturally occurring in animal foods
what the frick i took nutrition and was told trans fats were from a process to prolong the life of the product on the shelf, and to have as little as possible.
frick me everything is a lie.
well those things are true, too. "partial hydrogenation" of unsaturated fat will produce trans fats, which prolongs their shelf life
you probably should avoid that stuff anyway, and it's not like it's the same as getting it from animal foods, and the amounts in animal foods aren't anything like what people were doing when they thought synthetic trans fats were perfectly safe and people were eating a ton of it from fried foods
just my $0.02 but yeah always consider everything nutrition and health related to be emerging science and any explanation other than "eat 'whole' foods, avoid processed foods" is probably oversimplified bullshit
>and it's not like it's the same as getting it from animal foods
isnt a trans fatty acid chain with bonds of molecules the same as another trans fatty acid chain?
what difference does the source make if the chemical structure is the same?
well no, they aren't structurally the same. just like there are different kinds of saturated fats and polyunsaturated fats, the trans fat in animal foods isn't exactly the same as partially hydrogenated vegetable oil
but regardless of that, context always matters. the total amount consumed at once, the other nutrients it comes in tandem with, etc. like getting sugar from fruit vs. having a spoon of HFCS
there are no ill health effects from the natural trans fats in red meat and dairy
arent those saturated fats? whats a trans fat then?
google: Artificial trans fats (or trans fatty acids) are created in an industrial process that adds hydrogen to liquid vegetable oils
So how the frick is it in meat now?
i dunno what's so confusing about it
they were always in meat and dairy. they aren't the same thing as saturated fat. meat and dairy has both saturated fat and trans fat.
*they didn't always need to be listed*
^this seems to be the part that is confusing to you. you think the meat itself changed when the label changed. just the label changed
>Conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) is a fatty acid found in meat and dairy that is believed to have various health benefits (1).
>CLA is essentially a type of polyunsaturated, omega-6 fatty acid. In other words, it’s technically a trans fat — but a natural type of trans fat that occurs in many healthy foods (4).
Butter has quite a few micronutrients in it actually. A lot more than any plant. It's obviously devoid of protein, that's about it. Wouldn't really expect a fat redditer like moxyte to understand basic food facts.
>reading comp of a 4th grader
I’m not OP please take your Risperdal
HAHAHAHAHA THE homosexual SAMEgayGED AND DELETED IT OUT OF SHAME STUPID homosexual.
>replying to a deleted message
seethe much?
>(you)ing yourself
holy cringe lmao
>
Holy frick just let it go. The guy destroyed you just stop making a fool of yourself
I always use a little butter as I can in recipes.
They psyop people into thinking this is what keto is.
Sometime in the 00s, DARPA started running experiments about how bizarre and outlandish, how decoupled from observable reality memes could get before terminally online autists would disbelieve them. This explains all the intenet's socio-cultural trends of the 2010s, including keto, SS and lookism.
Anyone who doesn't eat butter is gay. I've met 2 people who liked margerine instead and both were flaming homosexuals.
Butter is for cooking, and it's fine. Only psychopaths eat straight up butter.
This shit thread is still up, huh
Yes, this board hates redditors (keto). The only people here to defend keto are fat redditors.
There are more subscribers to vegan subreddits than keto subreddits. Weird.
Wrong.
Science isn't for everyone, anon. You can cite as many single studies as you want, you'll still be a brain fogged, malnourished and moronic vegan who can only read conclusions of studies.
Based Ketochuds making griantroons seethe endlessly
>she does this every day
Why is ketoschizo still shilling her meme hairloss diet? Hasn't she been posting about her weight loss journey for almost a decade?
Meat is great and I eat a ton of it but keto and carnivor seems extremely moronic. All ketogays seem red and unhealthy
no you don't
Is it really crazy for a person to eat a lot of meat without being moronic and only eating meat?
No, I’m convinced these hyper dogmatic dieters on IST are samegayging trolls trying to get (You)’s. Only reason this shit is posted daily.
it's not crazy, it's 90+% of people
it's just not you
yeah basically the only people who make keto threads are vegans
Why is it not me?
you tell me homie
because you (erroneously) believe meat is unnecessary for optimal health, and thus is unethical, i assume
When the frick did I say? I just said I eat a lot of meat but you don't believe me because you're insecure about your meme diet. Meat is great for you but your body needs other shit too
unlike you, I don't have a meme diet
meat veggies fruit dairy n grains
sure you don't
>no carbs
>bad
How much soda did you drink today you diabetic frick?
>it's another vegans vs keto tardfight