How do I avoid look like right if I decide to take steroids?
If I lose my hair, my life is over.
How do I avoid look like right if I decide to take steroids? If I lose my hair, my life is over.
How do I avoid look like right if I decide to take steroids?
If I lose my hair, my life is over.
he has hair it's just short?
he doesnt tho, what stage of NW is this?
4 or higher
damn, i have legs his size (if not slightly bigger) without steroids and i have not even lifted for that long.
transition then, you sound like a girl already
dont train chest or arms. not that you will heed my advice, but chest and arms training is what ruins aesthetics
what if i have DYEL arms and chest
its good, it will only make your shoulders look bigger in comparison. just train shoulders and back and your aesthetics will skyrocket
male aesthetics come from back, side delts and rear delts. Everything else just detracts from aesthetics
Maybe if you're gay... Almost every girl notices a guys chest and arms mostly, then probably legs
doesnt matter if they notice it if it doesn tlook aesthetic
chest and arms ruin aesthetics, its why people dislike the bodybuilder look
if bodybuilders only trained shoulders and back then everyone would want their physique, because it would actually look athletic and good
>big chest doesnt look aesthetic
cope
honestly. his chest is rather unique looking. but 99% of guys dont have chests inserts like this guy
>posts picture of one of the most genetically gifted influencers
yeah we can't all look like the top 0.001% of male physiques dawg
>genetically gifted
He's a Mexican that dyes his hair blonde, straighten it and takes roids for said physique.
Not that there's anything wrong with it, he just cheated the system very well.
I'm saying they like a big chest and big arms. You're simply delusional if you think otherwise.
they dont, if they did roiders would be slaying more than they do.
its all about back and shoulders. big chest and arms detracts from the athletic ideal, and the athletic ideal is aesthetic peak. Looking like a heavy fridge square with narrow shoulders, big manbreasts and bloated arms is not the aesthetic ideal that women like
lol no. You can think whatever you want as a gay man, but you're wrong
you're coping. you have no arguments
i can scientifically base my thinking. all you got is herp derp me like bench press
idc anywayhs im trying to help you become aesthetic. keep training chest and arms idc, youre the one whose gonna look worse every day
>scientifically
who's coping again?
if you only train shoulders and back and do no chest ull end up looking like derek which is ugly
derek is the poster boy for overtraining chest and arms
he could bench 4 plates at his peak
Derek is exactly what you end up looking like when you train chest and arms
so you proved my point, thanks
his chest is tiny tho, which is your point
no his chest is huge
but since youre a brainlet you also dont know that the antagonist muscle to chest is the traps, but only the ugly outer part of the traps, the part that makes you look narrower, not the part that shrugs train
what does this mean? ill explain brainlet. It means that everytime you train chest you make yourself look narrower and bulkier in the front, so its a twin combo to ruin aesthetics
lets not even mention how push exercises also overdevelops your front delts which makes you look even shittier and takes away from your side and rear delt proportions
if only you tards knew how much chest training ruins aesthetics
what is the solution then, dont train chest at all?
post ur physique
now you got it. yes that is the solution. its all about proportions thats what makes aesthetics
how does ur program look like
no push exercises
main focus is side delts, rear delts and back
i dont train chest, i dont do any exercise that hits chest, front delts or arms directly
see how my shoulders look ginormous and how my front delts are not popping out
thats how you look aesthetic
its fairly simple actually
push exercises = makes you uglier
pull exercises = makes you aesthetic
also notice how my flat traps from lack of chest training makes me look wide af
remember chest and traps are antagonistic muscle groups. They grow in tandem
don't you even do any kind of press?
none
false
you look terrible lmao ur advice is shit
this guy knows. I only do two exercises in the gym for back and two for shoulders, that's it. People think I'm moronded but I look better than any of them
post body
a fellow enlightened man
your physique would look decent if you didn't have chest of a 9 year old boy.
my physique looks good because i ahv e the chest of a 9 year old boy
chest training = ugly
nah you look like shit
frick no i look AMAZING. what are u smoking gay
post body manlet dyel PROTIP: YOU WONT
Neither will you, homosexual. Sorry one shitty dark grainy photo doesn’t cut it. Post one with a timestamp and let me mog you
imagine how massive the shoulders on OP's pic would look if he didnt have a massive titty chest and huge arms
He would look athletic with wide shoulders. but now he looks like a heavy dwarf
You’re a fricking moron. Post body right now
cope. my body is already posted you dum dum
DUM DUM LIKEY BENCH PRESS HUH?
post body mine is in the thread. i want to see those juicy pecs boy. i bet you look like SHIT
Haha you’re a fricking homosexual
>dont train chest or arms. not that you will heed my advice
and rightfully so
i mean look at his breasts. even when hes flexing and pumped postworkout the big chest look still looks horrendous
why anyone would train chest or front delts is beyond me. i blame arnold honestly
I'm obsessed with training chest
me too. but i refuse to do it because it makes my physique look like trash. instantly makes me look narrower due to outer trap antagonism and ugly cuz a bulky front is anti aesthetic
Guys with weak chests are disgusting
I have to second this guy
Idk what your physique looks like but a bad chest just looks terrible- ie derek
>If I lose my hair, my life is over.
insecure beta
bro im already average looking with hair, if i lose it ill turn into a goblin
Would you trade average looking with hair for ridiculously good looking but bald?
yes, I can just roid freely at that point
I'm going to treat this as a serious question.
Ultimately, it all comes down to your genetics and how sensitive your hair follicles are to androgens.
I want to do steroids and NOT lose my hair
>testosterone + finasteride/dutasteride
you will have the same or less DHT than a natural so your hair shouldn't be affected
>testosterone + deca [nandrolone]
Nandrolone turns into DHN and DHN latches onto DHT receptors and does nothing. If you take enough deca relative to test you will effectively have 0 DHT, but that in turn has its own problems (depression, low libido, erectile dysfunction), etc.
So as a noob you'd do something like 500mg/week of testosterone + 1mg/day of finasteride. If you had any shedding from that, you'd drop the finasteride and replace it with dutasteride
test or test+deca wont give any results at all
anyone who makes gains on roids even small gains are running way harsher shit, especially orals alongside high doses of injects
nattys = 0 gains
light roider 500mg test+anavar = trash gains barely above natty
test/tren/deca = meh ok a lil bit gains
test/tren/deca + violent orals halotestin/anadrol = now we're cooking
test/tren/deca/ + exotic orals = fire
test/tren/deca/GH + exotic orals + cortisol blockers = ROIDS ARE MAGIC
test/tren/deca/GH + exotic orals + cortisol blockers + insulin + peptides = IFBB pro bodybuilder
did you really type all those words to make a moronic shitpost
natty mad?
i feel like thats not true ive seen people on 500mg that just look amazing
they were probably on alot more stuff than just 500 test
i dont even know why a roider would only be on 500mg test. thats like having a garage full of supercars but only ever driving one of them
>do a crazy cycle or two
>maintain the rest of your life by cruising and mini blasting test
thats usually what I assume any time someone huge says they're just on a moderate test dose or trt. technically they aren't lying but they are leaving out that they've blasted 2 grams of oil in their ass every week a couple months at a time during their life
my dad is almost 50 and has a full head of hear, im 26 and have a full head of hair
noone in my family is really bald but im still scared, I want to avoid compounds that rape ur hair like tren
im also a manlet so I feel like tren would get me way too big
id be happy with left pic size, I guess he just blasted tren on right
but thats not him on either pics. thats just a pump
you know people dont walk around pumped and full right ?
I understand that, anon. But roiders have that "full" look on their daily basis even without a pump.
The roider at my gym (which had to stop taking 500mg test due to acne) always arrives at the gym without any pump at all and he's already bicep mogging 99% of the gym.
I'm curious to see how much muscle mass he will lose now that he had to stop pinning.
i never undestood the acne thing. ive been on 3grams of test without even getting a pimple
honestly, looking at him he looked normal not really serious cystic acne but you could see a few pimples here and there on his face and shoulders
he always wear a cap tho so I guess he was already balding before roids
oh ur just baiting and larping. so youre claiming you can verify that some mega big balding roider with severe acne was only on 500mg test?
is this how you cope as a natty by making up roid horror stories or something?
im not baiting or larping, i know he did 500mg test because I talked to him about roids (i told him that i wanted to start roiding)
okay but he was lying to you then, you dont get big on 500mg test, ask any roider
he wasnt monstrously big, just big enough to mog most people at my commercial gym
he was the only one repping 3 plate bench aswell
Left looks great. Quality physique. Right looks fricking gross and VERY obviously roided. The striated shoulders are fricking stupid. Imagine significantly shortening your life for that... SAD
left is most likely on roids aswell, I really wonder what his stack was on left
Imagine aging 20 years because you want your body to look gross and unnatural.
I feel bad for these people because they obviously have issues
>im also a manlet so I feel like tren would get me way too big
I'll let you in on a secret, tren is dogshit and the people who meme it fall into one of two groups: 1. people who have never done PEDs 2. People who haven't researched PEDs and have never ran anything but tren
that compound scares me, my friend who did all kinds of shit in the past, tren, test, superdrol, winny, ment, var said tren was the worst thing he used to the point where he almost got cancer from it
if i decide to roid ill probably just stay in the test + oral territory to be safe
superdrol makes you way way more tired than tren
but tren makes you paranoid. One day i injected 500mg tren ace and an hour later i felt like i was fighting on the ukrainian frontline while sitting in my bed
what dont you like about tren?
Losing my hair has really affected my life. I think a few other things went wrong to where it made it all worse than it needs to be. First off my awesome beard went almost totally gray by age 37. My forehead has giant wrinkles because I’m concerned 24/7. I feel like my throat or tongue is swollen or something so even though TMJ has made my jaw muscles huge, I lost my chiseled chin because of this weird situation with my tongue or something right under my chin and above my adams apple. So by 42 if my beard is longer than a stubble I look literally 55. I was blessed with 6’2” chad genetics and handsome face that just fizzled out and I’m depressed all the time about it. I have low body fat but my face looks all bloated and puffy, do you guys know what part of the diet may have caused that? Are there supplements I might be deficient in? The hair I have left is still totally black and not gray but I bet that’ll hit me soon and I’ll look literally 70 years old. My wife is the same age as me and looks like she’s in her 20s. She is like 4’10” and I look like a boomer creep in public with her. Can I TRT my way out of this?
yea gh will make your beard colorful again
low thyroid or high cortisol can both make you fatter and more bloated in the face
but since ur a natty. you will never try any of those things. Godspeed
I’m not opposed to trying things, it just seems hard to get a hold of. I’ve already had orders of stuff confiscated in the past before delivery. I’ve also done a few sarms cycles that gave me more muscle than I anticipated. But I remember asking my wife if she liked my gains and she said she doesn’t notice any difference so my motivation to continue really disappeared.
ive seen people on forums say growth hormone erased the grey in their beard, softened skin and gave them the ability to burn body fat back
and like i said. A wonky thyroid can frick up your aesthetics. Cortisol and thyroids are big ones to look out for in general
>But I remember asking my wife if she liked my gains and she said she doesn’t notice any difference so my motivation to continue really disappeared.
OUCH, that would hurt me. I want to get big and strong for my wife too.
>asking my wife if she liked my gains and she said she doesn’t notice any difference so my motivation to continue really disappeared
she probably does but is too scared of you getting out of her league and you cheating on her, just do whatever makes you feel better, anon
godspeed
500mg of test can probably fix you, the issues youve described are symptoms of being low T
how high was ur total and free test on ur last bloodwork?
Jesus Christ if im such a metrosexual homosexual by 42 im offing myself. How are you 42 and you type like this? I really hope this post is real so i can laugh my ass off.
Hang in there zoomer. I’d be petulant too if I’d missed out on a plethora of late 90s era emo girls and dozens of job offers a month before you’re set to graduate from college. Hope your crypto bounces back, son.
This is a shitpost 101%, no way a someone like this exists.
Gear will only age you further. Look into fillers and shyet (there's a thread up).
>She is like 4’10”
Don't have a son you will cuck him
this guy doesn't look like he's on steroids tho
are ya stupid?
hes a known brazillian roider, bro is doing it since he was 16, hes 31 now
i swear a big chest looks so bad
look at that shit, the entire lower chest looks like breasts
training lower chest as a bodybuilder is in fact a mistake. Its incline and upper chest work only. You can't avoid rounded pecs though thats genetic
>hes a known brazillian roider
so he thinks he's roiding but not actually using anything as it's fake
he goes to same gym as ramon and probably buys steroids from the same source
You're probably not going to look like the right even if you take steroids.
>If I lose my hair
Hair loss is genetic.
this picture perfectly illustrates my point
Look how the aesthetic ideal chad has a flat chest and small arms
But the ugly ogre has a huge chest and bulking arms
this is why back+shoulders = aesthetics
and chest+arms = deaesthetics
i keep telling you dweebs this, but everyone loves their chest day and triceps pushdowns even tho it just makes them look worse
true!
Grow your hair out and wear zoomer clothes and walk around a college freshman dorm. Girls will eyefrick you like "who is that glorious maned creature". Then shave your hair off and see how fast they call the campus security on your ass.
Hair>big muscles.
Yup. If you care about getting quality girls (18-22) you better prioritize keeping your hair. Young women don't give a literal frick about muscles other than maybe skinny-abs. They're hair and face oriented over literally everything IST thinks girls care about like height and muscles.
Yes
>wear zoomer clothes
wtf does this even mean
Dress like a gay (and your shit's all moronic). Or since zoomercore is the same as millennialcore highschool 2000s for some reason, just dress like it's the 2000s.
chest training is always a mistake
big front delts detracts from aesthetics
big chest detracts from aesthetics
outer part of the traps makes you look narrow
all the worst things comes from training chest. in the future people will laugh at us for having trained chest
>t.uglyscrawnytwink
>either it's "never train chest"
>or "chest day, every day bp 405 to failure"
This board can't do anything in moderation
>outer part of the traps makes you look narrow
>from training chest
... You think that upper trap growth comes from bench pressing, not from something like rows, deadlifts, etc.?
the outer traps can ONLY be trained via chest training due to it being antagonistic muscle groups. you cant even shrug your way to outer traps growth
Can sterons give you an early heart attack?
yes, heart damage is 100% possible with steroid abuse.
but if the person is even the slightest bit careful the chance of that is almost 0
>people saying not to train this or that because it’s unaesthetic
What the frick do I do
not training chest is moronic, if you end up ruining ur aesthetics for it you can just stop training it
This is a thread made by Brazilian macacos
And the guy on ops pic is a br roiders that shill supplements on YouTube ads as if ppl would turn to have his size if they took fricking fish oil
Not even saying nothing about the female roiders with voices of street shemales
Just fricking disgusting what is has come to be. I hope they all get arrested and start to carve anal penetration due the stronger spike
Then I will have my vengeance for all those infuriating ads
>if i lose my hair my life is over
than don't take steroids.
one of my boys did a single roid cycle.
his hairline is halfway up his scalp now.
excess androgens get converted to DHT (particularly if you're taking aromatase inhibitors so none can be converted to estrogens), and DHT kills your hair.
What was his cycle
FYI, basically all professional athletes like UCI pro cyclists take steroids. Lance Armstrong 100% took steroids. It depends how much you take, what your diet as and what kind of exercise you are doing.