Hey IST
I don't know how to fight, and I want to learn.
A few nights ago I was at a bar with some friends, I was dd'ing, so no drinking. As the night went on, a guy started yelling at me, and got up in my face threatening to fight me.
I'm strong, 300lb bench. I am a true manlet, but the other dude was max 2 inches taller then me. He didn't lift though. I'm much stronger and fitter then the guy, I have the physical capacities to win, but what surprised me is I froze.
I've never been in a fight before, I don't want to fight people. I want to defend myself, sure, but I don't want to hurt anybody else. When this guy was 2 inches from my face my first reaction wasn't "I gotta protect myself and beat the shit out of this guy", it was this kind of frozen "uhhh" thing. I was taught that fighting was wrong from my parents, and haven't developed a mindset of wanting to hurt people. And while it would be nice not to need it, if I ever want to be a father with my gf I need to be able to flip the switch and protect my loved ones.
I had the physical callabilities to win, but I had no mental urge or desire to fight at all. And kind of froze surprised. I don't want to be some autist with a chip on my shoulder that swings on anybody I can, but as a man I do need to learn how to defend myself and those I care about.
I'm 22, IST, no combat sports training, and I want to learn to how to fix my mental state and get better skills.
Any advice? I have 1.5 years of college left, and the nearest combat sports gym is over an hour away (isolated school) so until I graduate, I'll be on my own.
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You cant learn to fight on your own. Either take the 1h commute to the gym or start sparring with friends, which probably isnt gonna help if none of you know what youre doing.
>college
assuming your college isn't some tiny shitter they should have classes you can take
My uni has at least Judo and muay thai, probably other shit that I haven't bothered checking
I looked and so far I haven't found any like actual combat classes. Only ones I know about are like 3 people doing this faux karate stuff. All out of shape. I go to a really small school.
I practice year round on my college swim team, and that eats up a lot of my free time. Actually cut out IST last year because of a time waster, only reignited to ask about this lol.
and these aren't just to make exscuses, I'm just not sure how to go about it.
1) understand it takes very very little to get seriously fricked up in a street fight, you’d rather be the b***h that walked away than the guy in the ER with a cracked skull; there is nothing in that bar worth that risk. Removing yourself from that situation is the number one priority
Now that being said
2) boxing, nothing else compares, bjj won’t work if he has friends, and Muay Thai won’t work in an environment like that. This does not mean don’t learn these things, but boxing will help with multiple opponents for you to run away
3) gun, but understand the law so you don’t get fricked for defending yourself
>if I ever want to be a father with my gf I need to be able to flip the switch and protect my loved ones.
You're a sperg creating hypothetical situations in your head that will never happen. There's no switch to flick. You simply don't have that dog in you. You will never have it. Even if you learned how to do some gay mma shit you'll forget it the moment you get punched in the face. Like your OP said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"
I know it sounds spergy, I don't expect to turn into like doom guy or whatever, but I know I can improve from where I'm at.
To expand a bit further, you all are right, fighting that guy was NOT worth it. I don't care about what that guy thinks, I just want to make sure I'm prepared in case something actually does happen.
I've always loved boxing, I really want to get into it. But haven't found places within a commutable distance.
Not OP. You're a defeatist loser who's held back by his own gay insecurities. Don't drag down the real people trying to do their best. I bet you're one of those people who says you shouldn't lift unless you meet a height requirement and have all these gay, arbitrary physical prerequisites.
Go sit in stagnation while the real people do their best within their limitations
Nice projection you insecure homosexual. Step into the real world some day and stop watching your gay anime
Just don't get into situation where you need to fight my guy. Or run away. Why risk injury becase of some moron?
>I had the physical callabilities to win
No you didnt. Being able to bench a certain weight doesnt mean anything. If you cant even throw a proper punch what does it matter how 'strong' you are?
Well thats my point.
On paper, I should've won. I have a lot more strength then him, he was just some skinny fat guy, I'd be surprised if he had known how to either.
I've gained all this muscle, but idk how to use it, and idk where to start. I don't know where to start on that on my own.
>I don't know where to start on that on my own
You dont, you go to a boxing gym.
Join a boxing gym. Thats all there is to it imo. You can start once you move arter the studies but I think thats the solution
Learning how to punch and getting punched will help. Not flinching and understanding distance is important. I love boxing. Other martial arts are fine too but sparring against a guy who knows how to fight is important imo
Never get into a situation where you have to use physical violence. It is idiotic and if you know how to fight and the cops can prove you had training it will be used against you in a court of law.
To develop agility and general positional awareness in tense situations you should practice shadow boxing and muy thai. But this is mostly for developing confidence in case shit really hits the fan and you really do need to defend yourself from some moron that gets physical. I will repeat what I said about physical violence to drive the point home, anyone who knows how to fight will always avoid fighting. Even if someone is getting belligerent and starting to push you around just step back and de-escalate because physical violence is only a problem solving technique if you are completely moronic.
>court of law
Thanks for specifying what type of court you meant here, or we may have assumed you were referring to a tennis court
You're just low test. Blast tren until you become a man and next time take a bite out of that gaygits face
Wow man, you are so tough. I can just tell from your passive aggressive writing style that you are not a manlet with an extremely small peen and inferiority complex about your intelligence. Keep up the good work and post more, everyone needs your worldly wisdom on this public internet forum for incels
Thank you, anytime pantyboy
Stop being pussy
>all these homosexuals itt threads telling that you shouldn't fight
no wonder most men need trt. you literally need to fight to optimize testosterone levels.
if you have absolutely zero fighting experience then you should start by practising on easy targets. take a walk at night and find some short skinny dude you could definitely beat up. provoke him into a fight. after few times of doing this you'll have more confidence and experience. then you should progress and go against stronger opponents.
This is the kind of virgin who's never been in a fight. Thinking life is like some RPG
This. An excellent place to find weak but overly agressive people is the gym at night. That is when the beginners that are to shy to go during daytime go. They are usually weak and really insecure too so you can likely agro them in to a fight if they are not to shy, which some of them will be or else they would go during day time. It won't work if you are to big or too confident but its a good place to start.
He is not wrong. It works like exposure therapy and also he can start of with easier targets and work his way up. Its just common sense.
>Starting fights with random weak looking people
Straight up Black person shit
So lets say you start playing World of Warcraft, do you not kill the lvl 1 mobs because they are to easy? No, you grind them frickers to learn how to do the shit. When you start practicing martial arts at the gym do you start with the pro's? No you fight the other beginners
>comparing beating up weaklings to playing wow
What the frick moron. In wow the goal is to level up and the mobs are made to be killed.
You don’t go around pushing over people’s grandmothers and punching skinny kids irl to get better at fighting. You fight other people who want to get better at fighting
What kind of psycho Black person shit is this
>What the frick moron. In wow the goal is to level up
Exactly and so is goal by picking on weak people. Like how did you not understand the comparison? It simple logic jesus christ.
>You don’t go around pushing over people’s grandmothers and punching skinny kids irl to get better at fighting. You fight other people who want to get better at fighting
>What kind of psycho Black person shit is this
You don't pick on grandmohters lmao that won't even be a challenge. The point is finding someone that is little smaller and weaker then you so you get the advantage and win the fight and it builds confidence. Like WoW creeps are made to be easy so you win, so what you want to do IRL is try and stack up as many wins against weaker people on the street so you get the practice but also so you get the exposure to being in a serious threatning situation while reducing the chances of you getting hurt by finding smaller/weaker "opponents" (victims)
Didn’t realize you’re being serious.
You remind me of that one actual moron who goes around the gym giving people gloves then sucker punching them and calling himself undefeated. Forgot his name he was popular on misc years ago. moron got his ass handed to him by someone who actually fights.
Dont take this advice OP. You won’t learn to fight. You’ll just learn to be an butthole bully who picks on weaklings.
Go into a real fighting gym and fight some real people trying to improve. This dude is promoting acting like a wild Black person on the street fighting DYELs trying to walk home and play video games
Sorry you misunderstand. First you pick on the weak and shy people, then after you become comfortable with that you try someone that looks a little bit more scary. Like maybe someone that has lifted a little bit but is still not that strong. And you keep leveling up on more difficult opponents. Its not about picking on the weak and being a bully. Its just about finding easy targets to practice on, and then move up in difficulty as you develop. I know that you are talking about, he should have his arms permanently broken so he can never do that again.
No you just pick on someone that is not to much of a challenge that you are more likely to beat right. And skinny beginners at the gym is perfect. They also tend to have a wannabe alpha macho attitude which makes them fight even though they are weak and lose lol.
Fighting people at the gym is dumb . Someones gonna get actually hurt. I train multiple arts and spar regularly so i keep a level head. One time some teens at the gym, maybe 16, saw me hitting a bag and challenged me to sparring. I love sparring so i was like sure but lets go light (im older and bigger) they put on gloves and start throwing wild haymakers, one clips me on the lip and im bleeding. I give him a jab to the head and he instantly backs off.
Nothing was learned from this exchange. Someone could have seriously been injured for no gain.
Best to just join a fighting gym and play in a controlled environment with experienced people looking to improve and help you improve
But its good to pick on women because if they have a boyfriend or there are bystanders close they will be more likely to fight. Even coward men get brave to defend women, hehe. Use it to your advantage 😉
This is about developing real life experience and not about martial arts. They are not the same.
>you don’t pick on grandmothers
Yeah but you pick on small kids and weak looking disabled people right. Where do you draw the line? Only pussy homosexuals pick exclusively on people weaker than them. Black person mentality. Go fight real people
Don't listen to this bait. This guy has never actually fought anyone. Your life is so fragile doesn't matter if you are 250lbs solid muscle. There's a video of some russian mma fighter who gets sucker punched and he hits the floor and his head slamed into concrete and he died
>smurf on random dyels until you gain enough exp
yeah im thinking based
>t. charlie zelenoff
(You) are this guy
No but i got to say that i admire the guy. He has more balls then most of you homosexuals
>i admire that guy
>picking on weaker unsuspecting gym dads
>sucker punch as soon as they got gloves on
>lose to 16 year old KID iN a REAL BOXING GYM
>runs away
>tries to sucker punch again
>balls
Yeah it all makes sense now
he has no balls at all, hes a severely mentally ill israeli kid
Holy frick i ain’t seen charlie in years
You don't have to decimate him for starters, test the waters first, punch him in the liver.Chances are he's gonna bail. If he goes for it and punches you then don't worry about it your natural instincts will kick in and end him.
>you natural instincts will kick in and you'll end him
Thats the thing, I don't ever feel those natural instincts. I'm rarely if ever angry, and rarely, if ever actually want to fight someone.
Like I said, I don't want to have this constant autistic chip on my shoulder, but I do want to have the mindset of "oh I should probably do something to protect myself" rather then just freeze like an idiot. Not sure yet how to gain a better mindset on that. As silly as it sounds.
I've always thought about starting boxing. I am for sure once I get out of college.
To go off of what I said to the other anon, I imagine when I know I can fight, it'll become more of an 'instictual' thing. Like I won't have to consciously decide to do it. But like right now, I only thought "hey, I should have punched that guy, or at least pushed him out of my face" like after the whole thing diffused.
I know it's a weak mindset, to be honst. But I know I can grow that too.
everyone has, just use the liver punch or just push him, nature will take care of the rest. Don't straight up uppercut the dude and put him out to sleep. I prefer the liver shot, it always works , the pain stays with him for minutes maybe hour later so he remembers what you're capable of.
Other than the gym, check your diet as well. It is somewhat odd your fighting reflexes didn't kick in, especially if you had time to be thinking about it. Not to be a complete shit-head like the others, but diet might be holding you back a little (Not just low test but like who knows lol)
As a guy with PTSD from questionable parents, alternative school bullying, and a little jail-time, that switch from normal to choking a guy out in a parking lot at midnight is pretty slim...But yeah, I don't like to fight either, like they said, it's great you didn't have to fight some drunk anyways.
Join your local boxing gym, get humbled and smacked around a bit by the guys who know what to do, you'll realise being punched sucks ass but isn't the end of the world and you can handle it.
You can do any training you want, you arnt gonna turn into Tyson, bear in mind that people who want to fight you in bars fall into two camps, absolute morons, and absolute morons who love the bash, they want you to fight them, they arnt scared, they arnt gonna freeze. You need to be able to handle aggressive strong opponents, not just spar your mates for fun.
Unironically low test is the issue here
>I want to learn how to fight
>alone
this isn't a thing you can learn alone
t. martial artist
join a fighting gym. you'll be amazed how many people think they can fight and really have no clue . Getting hit is the most important., you can shadow box all you want but if you don't know how to react to being punched in the face you're done.
Jump roping and cardio also super important. you need to be light on your feet and fast. jump rope a lot.
That said, always avoid a fight when you can. never know if the idiot has a knife, or you fall and hit your head on concrete, or his buddy comes up behind you and smashed your brainstem in with a rock
>or his buddy comes up behind you and smashed your brainstem in with a rock
Maybe I just need to always be carrying a 20lb rock
rockmaxxing
even a small rock the size of your fist is enough to kill someone if you land it at the right spot.
There was a guy few years back who went into a restaurant with a hammer and just started swinging at everyone's head cracking heads open because he was psycho and wanted to "save all the women"
>if you don't know how to react to being punched in the face you're done.
How many sessions will it take for me to avoid flinchingbeing surprised? I'm not OP but I've also never fought
Depends on the person. I'd say 2-3 light sparring sessions would do. It's mostly to decondition the fear/flinch response. Find a gym and if they have a beginner sparring class do that. Start with the beginner kickboxing / boxing class . I used to close my eyes when the punch was coming. terrible habit.
Just get in there and try it. most gyms have a 1-4 week free trial period where you can feel out the atmosphere. Pick one out with a good mix of beginners, casual, hobbist, and pros if you can. Make sure the community there is good and about learning and encouraging. Don't pick a gym that's overly serious trying to put get fighters to go pro. you might get hurt there. unless that is what you want to do and want to dedicate your life to.
If you pick a good gym with good coaches then there's nothing to be scared of. My coach used to stop me mid sparring sessions and say
>Anon, don't close your eyes. Here I'll lightly jab your head. Just take it.
Don't worry about cte unless you're doing full contact. light-medium sparring and taps on the head is fine.
would recommend Muay Thai/Kickboxing / Boxing. A gym with partner work + bag work + light sparring. and vet out the history of the coach.
Also once you start sparring it gets addicting. Get over the initial fear and shit is fricking fun. You get good and you can start playing with the noobs. you start "seeing" things differently as your fight iq increases
Thank you very much, anon.
I think a year of boxing then introduce some grappling is the way to go. I wouldn't really want to travel for longer but 1hr is doable. depends how badly you want to do it. you can't Amazon prime combat skillz sorry.
Just take boxing classes - you gotta learn the mindset of hitting people. If you get put into a ring you'll have to learn how to defend yourself eventually
Also try to avoid Black folk and hispanics maybe sandBlack folk as much as possible they're the only morons dumb enough to get into street fights
This is funny to me
Living in southern europe, africans are mostly chill (while still being black dont misunderstand me) while moors always display Black person behaviour and hispanics are mostly pacific working class people (although 10-20 years ago latin gangs were more of a problem).
The whole dynamic is inverted
Here you go man
Pussy
I learned Tae Kwan Do and still didn't help when I got jumped later in life. Be that I have been in a few fights and did learn some very basic boxing. Also like a lot of the other anons have been saying, you should probably walk away and still go look for a boxing gym. Here's some things you'll have to be comfortable doing and understanding.
1. Jab - More of a quick disorienting type punch and used more so to make your opponent feel like you did.
2. Haymaker- Anytime you're looking to hit harder you will activate your hip flexor to drive your shoulder into it. That's how you throw your body weight behind your punches and can end up killing someone.
3. Work on being light on your feet and shoulder mobility for faster punches and movement.
>Tae Kwan Do
absolute meme of a sport
>TKD doesnt work irl
>tells people to throw haymakers
Please stop
What you need to learn is crisis management, cause it's not about being able to fight, its controlling the situation. I would start by watching docs on special ops training or looking for some kind of cqc class. They'll teach you basic holds and defense, but they'll end up focusing on controlling adrenaline so you don't freeze or go wild in times of crisis.
>my first reaction wasn't "I gotta protect myself and beat the shit out of this guy", it was this kind of frozen "uhhh" thing
You just discovered the full spectrum of stress responses
People think it's "fight or flight" but it's actually
>fight
>freeze
>bargain
>submit
>flight
And "freeze" is the most common one by far
I've personally frozen in similar situations
I also once proactively realised I had frozen and forcibly unfroze myself and took action
To do that you need to understand what I've said above and have the presence of mind in the situation to recognise what's happening
As far as learning to fight goes, I used to coach kickboxing casually, and have fought in striking, and trained a bunch of grappling too
It doesn't matter which one you choose (or both) because you fight how you train, and normies can't fight
The problem is that all men think they can fight, until they try. Often day one in the gym is a rude awakening. Fighting is hard, it's skillful and demanding of a bunch of things you have no clue about
A lot of people will tell you not to train on your own. I can see why they say that, but I disagree. If you really can't make it to a gym, hanging a heavy bag, getting some bag gloves and swinging at it with power will serve you well enough for the next time you face a drunken scuffle. You won't become picrelated, you won't learn how to fight, but that's okay because normies can't fight. Instead you'll learn to swing a shitty flurry and flick the other guy's switch from fight mode to "frick this" which is the most common street fight outcome, and all you need really
Buy a gun. Never under any circumstances get into a fight. Your fighting experience and skills will not protect you from a sucker punch or a lucky hit on the jaw and then your skull cracking on the cement.
Boxanon here. First thing is not to beat yourself up. You are not unique in freezing and there are tens of millions of dudes walking around who would have frozen and just haven't been in the situation to learn that firsthand yet.
Two, you need instruction. Learning and applying the fundamentals in training will equip you with what you will need to do, just basic stuff like how to stand, where to put your hands, when to punch, and which punches to throw, and where. You cannot teach yourself anything other than bad habits that you will lose time and effort having to unlearn once you eventually do get a trainer.
Three, inhibition is a case where too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. Overall it's good, humans are fragile and no avoidable altercation is worth it. But like you learned, some altercations can be unavoidable, so being prepared is good.
Four, avoid concocting elaborate hypothetical scenarios and living out weird redemptive power fantasies in your head. If you feel dishonored or whatever this is easy to do, but it's a waste of time and energy and won't translate into the "next time" that may never even come, anyway.
Five, actively spar once you do get instruction. Not at first, give it 3-6 months, but eventually get used to moving around with a live opponent and getting hit. The first time that happens irl can be very disorienting. Also, it will help you manage your stress and panic response, and stay cool under pressure. This was honestly the biggest benefit for me beyond just my physical condition improving.
I'll check this thread later today if you have any questions.
I appreciate this anon, two questions:
1 - I would like instructions and sparring partners, however I won't have that for a while, any tips on what I can do until then besides just lifting and cardio?
2 - There was a time a few years ago I really thought about getting into boxing, my biggest fear wasn't getting hurt pain wise, but brain damage. I've learned alot of CTE is caused in cases of people sparring regularly. Any advice on how to spar + learn while circumventing this?
>I also once proactively realised I had frozen and forcibly unfroze myself and took action
I like this anon
Is this a real thing?
Please take this in the spirit of tough love but just go to the unspecified "nearest combat sport gym". all of these questions are totally academic. I was in your position. Guess what, I can't open my front door and piss onto a martial arts gym either. 2x a week after work I travel 55 mins to do 1.5hr of martial arts. Then 40 minutes home. 1x a week i travel 1 hour 15 mins to another gym, the same again on the way. I spend over twice the time of the class traveling to get there. It is kinda shit. But what else can I do? You owe it to yourself to at least try.
Appreciate it anons, if biting the bullet of a commute is the way to get better, then thats what I'll do.
>It sounds like overthinking the consequences of elaborate hypothetical situations is a common occurrence for you. Facing physical anxiousness and anxiety in the ring might have more positive psychological and behavioral consequences for you than anything.
Yeah I am pretty anxious tbh, I've gotten way better at it over the years, but I still have a lot to go
>All im saying you literally dont have any confidence,
I definitely do have some confident issues, but I'm nowhere near as anxious as I used to be. I was surprised the other night about how I reacted.
>AVOID FIGHTING AT ALL COSTS moron
I know in the OP I talk about wanting to be able to defend myself and those I care about. At the end of the day, I truly don't want to hurt anyone, I'm talking last resort stuff. But I don't want to just go out and get an excuse to start swinging
i am
>1 - I would like instructions and sparring partners, however I won't have that for a while, any tips on what I can do until then besides just lifting and cardio?
If learning boxing for self-defense is at all a priority for you, make getting the basic instruction a priority. If you need to sacrifice a couple of hours commuting once or twice a week, do it, at least for a while. Once you get some basic technique down, you will be able to add shadowboxing to your cardio and weight training.
Shadowboxing is awesome and will help you with everything from technique, to footwork, to managing your breathing and gas tank. However it's counter-productive to do it until you learn the basics, otherwise like I said in my last post you will just be reinforcing bad habits. Until then, cardio, calisthenics, and high intensity athletic interval type exercises are the best way to condition your body for boxing.
>2 - There was a time a few years ago I really thought about getting into boxing, my biggest fear wasn't getting hurt pain wise, but brain damage. I've learned alot of CTE is caused in cases of people sparring regularly. Any advice on how to spar + learn while circumventing this?
It sounds like overthinking the consequences of elaborate hypothetical situations is a common occurrence for you. Facing physical anxiousness and anxiety in the ring might have more positive psychological and behavioral consequences for you than anything.
Some people spar hard. Hard sparring is usually like 70% power plus. Worth pointing out that nobody can go full power all the time in a real fight. In this way a real fight is like 70% power at times because you have to manage your gas tank. Hard sparring is just that: hard. It is not quite, but close to actual fighting.
However most people go lighter most of the time, and some people do purely technique sparring which is typically very light. Add in headgear and 16 oz gloves and you have no cause for alarm long term.
*i am the guy you are replying to in
Wrestling and Boxing is all you need.
You need to learn takedowns first and foremost. It's the easiest way to make someone your b***h and takedowns on unsuspecting normalgays are easy as frick if you have some practice. Boxing is great when there are 2-3 of them. More than 3 guys I'd suggest you de escalate and get the frick out of there. As far as that mindset is concerned you will develop that by sparring with guys at the gym.
You don't need mastery in these sports, just train hard for a year tops and you'll be good enough to frick up couple of normalshits.
Chances are you will probably never need your skills if you are good reading social cues. Nevertheless it's still an important skill every man should have.
Don't bother.
Fighting is for Black folk, but then again so is public intoxication.
Next time stay home and save yourself the trouble. Otherwise put it out of your thoughts because you did the right thing by not engaging.
All sparring that is actually useful in replicating real life self defense situations will lead to brain damage but you need to know what it like for someone to try and knock your head off pussy
>I've never been in a fight before, I don't want to fight people. I want to defend myself, sure, but I don't want to hurt anybody else. When this guy was 2 inches from my face my first reaction wasn't "I gotta protect myself and beat the shit out of this guy", it was this kind of frozen "uhhh" thing. I was taught that fighting was wrong from my parents, and haven't developed a mindset of wanting to hurt people. And while it would be nice not to need it, if I ever want to be a father with my gf I need to be able to flip the switch and protect my loved ones.
>I had the physical callabilities to win, but I had no mental urge or desire to fight at all. And kind of froze surprised. I don't want to be some autist with a chip on my shoulder that swings on anybody I can, but as a man I do need to learn how to defend myself and those I care about.
>I'm 22, IST, no combat sports training, and I want to learn to how to fix my mental state and get better skills.
>Any advice? I have 1.5 years of college left, and the nearest combat sports gym is over an hour away (isolated school) so until I graduate, I'll be on my own.
look at all that fricking text
stop the excuses
join a gym, practice shadow boxing and most important of all, be more impulsive
you can achieve this through making a rule like:
>if they disrespect me to my face I punch wether I win or lose
this is actually quite important, I've never been scared to fight, or when people scream in my face
I'm a few years older than you. I have about 12 years of kickboxing experience (not that many fights, though) and I'm a brown belt in BJJ. Truth is, what you went through is just a life experience. When I was your age, if someone got in my face and wanted to fight I would freeze as well, even though I already had been fighting for a while.
Normal people just don't have fighting in their mind 24/7, so we can't flip that switch immediately, and it has nothing to do with knowing how to fight. As you grow older, and that stuff happens to you a couple times, you become a bit better at snapping out of it and actually being able to get in a headspace where you can defuse that situation.
In this case, I think the only thing that you did wrong was that you let the guy get too close to you. When someone's being hostile, you do not allow them to get within arm's reach. You hover your palm over their chest in a non-threatening manner and you step back until your arm's completely out stretched, preferably with your free arm in front of your face but showing your palm so as to show you don't want to fight. If they continue to encroach on that space that you created, you have to push them out back to where they can't reach you, and if they do it again, assume they are doing so to strike to be ready to get physical.
Unfortunately you can't expect this to be a natural response in the face of physical aggression. Most of us go through life avoiding confrontation, as you should. I guess I'm sorry you're not a psychopath, bro, that must really suck for you being a normal, well-adapted person.
Fighting and winning fights is not self defense. Self defense is about minimizing damage -- if you get out of a self defense situation with a black eye, you failed to defend yourself, even if you won the fight and sent the other guy to the hospital.
Good advice. You see the idiots webm in the other thread “fighting” by going in head first hands down line alpha macho idiot.
Keep your hands up, use them to maintain distance. Hands on your chest, hands directing as you talk, hand stroking your chin. One week of boxing and youll understand why hands need to stay up. If you fight someone and they blade their body and subtly keep their hands up, youre gonna get fricked up. If the other guy has his hands at his waist and moving his head in and out to “intimidate” you then you can tell hes a moron
it's kind of moronic to do in isolation but watching mma/kickboxing will help your learning process out quite a bit if you're limited in how much time you can spend in the gym
unironically to fix the mindset thing, when i go on a night out and shit hits the fan i go "Diaz-mode" and literally just pretend im Nick Diaz and then throw a lead-slap right-cross and hope i hurt them enough to back off
anyway you can probably learn to punch if you just hang up a bag in your room and watch yt tutorials, you wont be a good fighter but at least you will have a vague idea on how to punch
Join a MMA or Box or Muay Thai or Wrestling gym
IS THAT FRICKING EASY.
Fighting on the streets is fricking moronic btw. Save yourself the trouble, walk away. Only americans fight on the streets and they are morons
The kind of person you are reveals itself when it gets punched in the face. For your description, doesnt matter how strong you are, you dont have the attitude and that primal instinct to attack someone who is attacking you. All im saying you literally dont have any confidence, work on that first and of course join an MMA gym. That and AVOID FIGHTING AT ALL COSTS moron.
I was always scared of fighting but when I got hit first it all went away and went ham. It also helps not to have a glass chin since in my first street fight I had to fight a 6'5 dude twice my weight and his hooks felt like sledgehammers. Keep your guard up and you'll be fine
Go train MMA. Focus on boxing and wrestling and how to mix them and you're very proper 1v1 fighter
someone post that webm of that dude knocking out like 8 people in a club because someone bumped into him
My barber is a classic tough guy, acts tough, is a Manlet, makes up stories that are fake but not gay, etc. He wanted to be a firefighter and potentially a fish and game warden but got in a stupid fight (he makes up a bunch of shit but I believe this story) and so now he’s a barber. He added some fluff to it saying that he got charged with assault with a deadly weapon being his fists since he’s a black belt in multiple disciplines (OKAY). But this is the risk you take when fighting. It’s just not worth it. Run away. Do all in your power to run. Let everyone point and laugh at what a pussy you are. All of this is preferable to being a convicted felon in Western society. Do not get into unironic fights
Your barber sounds like a homosexual. people who actually fight dont brag or talk like that. most pro fighters even back off fights (except ppl like bj penn and diaz and conor lol hot headed)
>Beat other guy
>he dies
>you go prison
>other guy beats you
>you die
>dead
Just walk away. If you owned a pistol would you just go around shooting any drunk idiot that looks at you funny
The main thing is having some really basic stuff becoming muscle memory, like pivoting your whole body into a punch. In fact that's really the main thing, just learning to hit with your whole body, not just your arm. Beyond that all that matters 90 percent of the time is strength, which you have,
Literally just classes. I know the basic muscle memory stuff I do from kickboxing as a teenager. Boxing, kickboxing, or thai boxing(just kickboxing with knees and elbows.) Just practicing the movements so you know how to turn strength into impact force.
Find a martial arts club at your college, there's bound to be one. Boxing is out of fashion because it's associated with the lower classes but karate or something similar will be accessible.
What happened to you is normal but you need to get used to being hit and hitting others to overcome it. You'll also go through a phase of shaking in a verbal confrontation because you have an instinct to fight back but are still reluctant to make the first move (often correctly, but it doesn't feel good).
Being taught that fighting is wrong under any circumstances is one of the worst things in modern society. I grew up getting bullied/ physically abused in a society where it was tolerated and I had to learn the hard way. I was shocked when I came to the US and found how frightened upon any physical conflict was, it's basically an all you can eat buffet for aggressive people and turns everyone else into professional victims.
Fighting is good for you. Like you shouldn't seek it but if it finds you you should be ready for it. I've been beaten up on several occasions (sometimes severely) but guess what, if you run into one of those people again they do not want a second round. And there is nothing as satisfying as punching someone who started shit with you and wasn't expecting you to retaliate. The look of fear on a bully's face is extremely rewarding.