1. Do it for yourself don't do it for them.
2. Fix whatever issues you have in your life that make you an butthole or otherwise insufferable person.
3. Find better people.
You can do it anon. I'm 1 month 17 days off booze and it's been great. Mental health gains alone are phenomenal.
>Notice that people who actually like you, also like you sober.
that's the problem. I'm extremely unlikeable sober but everyone loves me drunk. it honestly feels like if I could just go through life buzzed everything would be better.
You have no evidence "everyone loves you drunk". It sounds like what you have is a case of being an introvert, and the lowered inhibitions allow you to be yourself.
Instead of medicating yourself with poison to please other people (never fricking please other people at your own expense) figure out what makes you likeable when you drink and then do that sober. Assuming you're not a total prick and a sociopath without booze, you probably just aren't very social.
Again all of this is fixed by finding new friends who accept you for who you are. A good place to find them is a hobby. If you're so unlikeable not even trying to be your drunk self sober fixes it, honestly consider therapy. You will do a ton of damage to yourself. I know, I was once that guy too (in my early 20s). A lot of "drunk friends" and no one was around when I needed them. Don't do that.
>You have no evidence "everyone loves you drunk"
i mean what am i supposed to do write a research paper on it? my parents like me more, girls like me more, my friends have a better time around me when I'm drunk, unironically every part of my life is better when I'm drunk me vs sober me
>Become drunk without drinking alcohol
how though?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Be brave
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then it doesn't sound like you're an insufferable butthole you're just anti-social/introverted. I was (and still am). I got better by actively trying to be social and fricking up a bunch, taking note of the feedback I get when I try, and learning how to be more open/extroverted within my own limits. You have a block in your mind preventing you from realizing this. Before you hit the bottle again start taking notes of how you act and begin to emulate yourself. You'll learn if you put in the work. Believe me, being liked sober is a lot better than being liked drunk.
I don't think I have the courage
2 years ago
Anonymous
One step at a time anon. Fixing maladaptive behavior takes a lot of time. You certainly have the courage to try. You're on IST. How many times did you have the courage to try for a PR and fail? It's the same thing, but instead of lifting weights you're putting in mental health reps. Start slow, pay attention to how people act, and take notes (maybe not literally lol). Don't be afraid to reach for help or even ask your friends how you can improve yourself. All you have to do is want it, set your mind to it, and build a habit. No different than the gym.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can you do it without anyone watching?
2 years ago
Anonymous
no, I don't think so
2 years ago
Anonymous
Try it, pretend you're the drunk you that people like right now while you do stuff, I am assuming you are sitting alone in a room with your computer
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I am assuming you are sitting alone in a room with your computer
right now I am yeah, I'm pretty drunk. I woke up at 10am and got drunk, and came up with a bunch of good fathers day gift ideas, bought em all while driving around drinking, then felt good enough to spent all day with my parents drinking the entire time, they loved it having me be sociable and hanging out with them and they kind of just overlook my alcoholism. i got so drunk i ate nothing and passed out for like 5 hours, and they kind of just try to brush it off like "well you think you had enough seltzers today haha" but I know they're really concerned about my not being able to hold down a job or finish college. I think I'll make it to my friend's wedding this october and then probably drive out into the desert and kill myself in my car.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well you can try it when you're sober. The first day or few days may be shit in general if you been day drinking a while now, so don't give up immediately.
It's easier if you get some exercise
I have strongly thought about drukmaxxing myself and maintaining a 0.05 BAC and even started doing it once or twice. However, I've come to realize that I'm really just after the effects, so if I could get good at emulating the effects then I can skip the negative effects of alcohol.
It sounds like your family is invested in you anon. That is a very valuable thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah my family is awesome it's just me that's not. i'm the only member of my entire extended family to never finish college. i'm honestly an embarrassment which is ironic considering in day to day life i'm a chad in basically every other way that isn't being a productive member of society
2 years ago
Anonymous
I feel you man. I haven't finished college either and I should've graduated by now (I'm 22). I used to enjoy excelling in school but now I struggle to find meaning in anything "productive." So I don't have any answers for that. Though, I find I do the best when I accept the truth in these old words: >So, do live and be happy, children dear to my heart, and never forget that, until the day when God deigns to unveil the future to mankin, all known wisdom is contained in these two words: 'wait and 'hope'.
Look anon it's your life. But either you humble yourself now, get your mental health in check, and dump this toxic waste attached to you or a doctor will deliver the bad news to you and you'll be with a bum liver and no friends (because you never found friends you could be sober around). Don't fricking do that.
>> girls like me more > >and then when you sober up they hate. > >> parents like me more > >and then when you sober up they hate you > >> friends like me more > >and then when you sober up they hate you
no that's the problem, they still like me when I'm sober but I have a hard time connecting with people sober and feeling good, it's just, they like me more when I'm drunk
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then it doesn't sound like you're an insufferable butthole you're just anti-social/introverted. I was (and still am). I got better by actively trying to be social and fricking up a bunch, taking note of the feedback I get when I try, and learning how to be more open/extroverted within my own limits. You have a block in your mind preventing you from realizing this. Before you hit the bottle again start taking notes of how you act and begin to emulate yourself. You'll learn if you put in the work. Believe me, being liked sober is a lot better than being liked drunk.
Adding to my own post for one last bit of advice. Dump your friends. Do not let them down slowly. People who tell you these things are actively harming you. Simply tell them something like "you guys only enjoy me when I'm drunk and to maximize my health and fitness we can't be friends anymore". You DO NOT need these people in your life. Get rid of them ASAP.
I have been going to therapy for 10 months. I've been taking zoloft and wellbutrin the entire time. There is nothing I enjoy anymore so I get drunk to minimize the time I am concisous. I am fundamentally broken and have nothing in common with other humans. I just want to die. I want to go home so I can shoot myself in the head
I felt like you for a long time. Complete alienation. It’s pain beyond pain, because you know it’s not meant to be like this.
What finally got me on the right track was joining the Catholic Church, which is also full of extremely broken people, many of whom are annoying on the internet (not excluding myself, here). But here’s the thing: through Jesus, I have started becoming more normal. Not normal as in “like everyone else”, but rather that it feels like life is supposed to be this way. I’ve met so many people who I never would have thought I had anything in common with. My friend group looks like a diversity advert, with rich and poor, black and white, old and young, virgin and chad, immigrant and native, left and right — there’s even a chaste, lesbian couple. We are people who, society says, have nothing in common at all, but through Jesus, we do, and we are friends.
It’s not like I have no problems and life is perfect, and anyway, you may not care and this may not be a path you are interested in. But the root of the word “religion” is “religio,” which means “to bind,” and it turns out that in this world, we’re just not enough for each other, so we need a fragment of eternity to hold us together.
Hope and love for you. I know your pain, and it shouldn’t be like this.
>I've been binge drinking everyday for the last 6 months.
i know that feel. for atleast a month now I've been drunk every single day. start my day at like 10 am drinking seltzers. I have no job I live with my parents I'm 27
Drink with friends. Never drink alone.
1. Do it for yourself don't do it for them.
2. Fix whatever issues you have in your life that make you an butthole or otherwise insufferable person.
3. Find better people.
You can do it anon. I'm 1 month 17 days off booze and it's been great. Mental health gains alone are phenomenal.
1. Get better friends
2. Stop drinking with new friends
3. Notice that people who actually like you, also like you sober.
>Notice that people who actually like you, also like you sober.
that's the problem. I'm extremely unlikeable sober but everyone loves me drunk. it honestly feels like if I could just go through life buzzed everything would be better.
You have no evidence "everyone loves you drunk". It sounds like what you have is a case of being an introvert, and the lowered inhibitions allow you to be yourself.
Instead of medicating yourself with poison to please other people (never fricking please other people at your own expense) figure out what makes you likeable when you drink and then do that sober. Assuming you're not a total prick and a sociopath without booze, you probably just aren't very social.
Again all of this is fixed by finding new friends who accept you for who you are. A good place to find them is a hobby. If you're so unlikeable not even trying to be your drunk self sober fixes it, honestly consider therapy. You will do a ton of damage to yourself. I know, I was once that guy too (in my early 20s). A lot of "drunk friends" and no one was around when I needed them. Don't do that.
>You have no evidence "everyone loves you drunk"
i mean what am i supposed to do write a research paper on it? my parents like me more, girls like me more, my friends have a better time around me when I'm drunk, unironically every part of my life is better when I'm drunk me vs sober me
Become drunk without drinking alcohol
>Become drunk without drinking alcohol
how though?
Be brave
I don't think I have the courage
One step at a time anon. Fixing maladaptive behavior takes a lot of time. You certainly have the courage to try. You're on IST. How many times did you have the courage to try for a PR and fail? It's the same thing, but instead of lifting weights you're putting in mental health reps. Start slow, pay attention to how people act, and take notes (maybe not literally lol). Don't be afraid to reach for help or even ask your friends how you can improve yourself. All you have to do is want it, set your mind to it, and build a habit. No different than the gym.
Can you do it without anyone watching?
no, I don't think so
Try it, pretend you're the drunk you that people like right now while you do stuff, I am assuming you are sitting alone in a room with your computer
>I am assuming you are sitting alone in a room with your computer
right now I am yeah, I'm pretty drunk. I woke up at 10am and got drunk, and came up with a bunch of good fathers day gift ideas, bought em all while driving around drinking, then felt good enough to spent all day with my parents drinking the entire time, they loved it having me be sociable and hanging out with them and they kind of just overlook my alcoholism. i got so drunk i ate nothing and passed out for like 5 hours, and they kind of just try to brush it off like "well you think you had enough seltzers today haha" but I know they're really concerned about my not being able to hold down a job or finish college. I think I'll make it to my friend's wedding this october and then probably drive out into the desert and kill myself in my car.
Well you can try it when you're sober. The first day or few days may be shit in general if you been day drinking a while now, so don't give up immediately.
It's easier if you get some exercise
I have strongly thought about drukmaxxing myself and maintaining a 0.05 BAC and even started doing it once or twice. However, I've come to realize that I'm really just after the effects, so if I could get good at emulating the effects then I can skip the negative effects of alcohol.
It sounds like your family is invested in you anon. That is a very valuable thing.
yeah my family is awesome it's just me that's not. i'm the only member of my entire extended family to never finish college. i'm honestly an embarrassment which is ironic considering in day to day life i'm a chad in basically every other way that isn't being a productive member of society
I feel you man. I haven't finished college either and I should've graduated by now (I'm 22). I used to enjoy excelling in school but now I struggle to find meaning in anything "productive." So I don't have any answers for that. Though, I find I do the best when I accept the truth in these old words:
>So, do live and be happy, children dear to my heart, and never forget that, until the day when God deigns to unveil the future to mankin, all known wisdom is contained in these two words: 'wait and 'hope'.
> girls like me more
and then when you sober up they hate.
> parents like me more
and then when you sober up they hate you
> friends like me more
and then when you sober up they hate you
Look anon it's your life. But either you humble yourself now, get your mental health in check, and dump this toxic waste attached to you or a doctor will deliver the bad news to you and you'll be with a bum liver and no friends (because you never found friends you could be sober around). Don't fricking do that.
>> girls like me more
>
>and then when you sober up they hate.
>
>> parents like me more
>
>and then when you sober up they hate you
>
>> friends like me more
>
>and then when you sober up they hate you
no that's the problem, they still like me when I'm sober but I have a hard time connecting with people sober and feeling good, it's just, they like me more when I'm drunk
Then it doesn't sound like you're an insufferable butthole you're just anti-social/introverted. I was (and still am). I got better by actively trying to be social and fricking up a bunch, taking note of the feedback I get when I try, and learning how to be more open/extroverted within my own limits. You have a block in your mind preventing you from realizing this. Before you hit the bottle again start taking notes of how you act and begin to emulate yourself. You'll learn if you put in the work. Believe me, being liked sober is a lot better than being liked drunk.
Adding to my own post for one last bit of advice. Dump your friends. Do not let them down slowly. People who tell you these things are actively harming you. Simply tell them something like "you guys only enjoy me when I'm drunk and to maximize my health and fitness we can't be friends anymore". You DO NOT need these people in your life. Get rid of them ASAP.
I have been going to therapy for 10 months. I've been taking zoloft and wellbutrin the entire time. There is nothing I enjoy anymore so I get drunk to minimize the time I am concisous. I am fundamentally broken and have nothing in common with other humans. I just want to die. I want to go home so I can shoot myself in the head
I felt like you for a long time. Complete alienation. It’s pain beyond pain, because you know it’s not meant to be like this.
What finally got me on the right track was joining the Catholic Church, which is also full of extremely broken people, many of whom are annoying on the internet (not excluding myself, here). But here’s the thing: through Jesus, I have started becoming more normal. Not normal as in “like everyone else”, but rather that it feels like life is supposed to be this way. I’ve met so many people who I never would have thought I had anything in common with. My friend group looks like a diversity advert, with rich and poor, black and white, old and young, virgin and chad, immigrant and native, left and right — there’s even a chaste, lesbian couple. We are people who, society says, have nothing in common at all, but through Jesus, we do, and we are friends.
It’s not like I have no problems and life is perfect, and anyway, you may not care and this may not be a path you are interested in. But the root of the word “religion” is “religio,” which means “to bind,” and it turns out that in this world, we’re just not enough for each other, so we need a fragment of eternity to hold us together.
Hope and love for you. I know your pain, and it shouldn’t be like this.
I only drink alone. I've been binge drinking everyday for the last 6 months.
I just want to die now
>I've been binge drinking everyday for the last 6 months.
i know that feel. for atleast a month now I've been drunk every single day. start my day at like 10 am drinking seltzers. I have no job I live with my parents I'm 27
Yeah man. I got stationed in Japan and I just get drunk off Soju and Strongs the moment I get off work
atleast you wait til you get off work. I just work out in my backyard in the morning and start drinking. why not, you know?
>run 18K
>get drunk
WHAT A LIFE
You realize that they hate you just as much when you're drunk, you just can't tell
Start doing phenibut instead. You will still be a drug addict, but at least it won't kill your gains
how do I stop drinking when the only time I like people is when I'm drunk?
if you live in europe you can just get gbl and convert it into ghb with naoh and learn to use it responsibly it's god tier