Assisted machine is a mee-mee
If you can't do 5 right now gain lat strength some other way and also lose fat
Once you can do 5 or more, just grind them. Form doesn't have to be perfect, just get up there.
im scrawny so weight isn’t an issue, and is continuing to do barbell rows enough to gain that lat strength? been doing assisted pullups directly after the row sets and all i ever feel is trap pain and bicep exhaustion from either of them, some days i cant even turn my neck right because of it
I could only do 1 pull ups 3 months ago, just stop assisted pull ups altogether and do regular pull ups. Your numbers will go up quicker than you'd think, I'm able to do 8 now
If you're doing the rows with good form then your lats are fatigued so chins will be tougher (just because you can't feel lat activation doesn't mean they're not being g used, just that you haven't fully activated that mind-muscle connection yet)
Sounds like you're doing SL5X5 which is what I started with, just gain back strength with rows and deadlifts and check in on the pull ups every so often. I went from not being able to complete one to suddenly being to knock out like 6. But I was fat when I started.
(I also personally think barbell rows are more trouble than they're worth and dumbbells are far superior but ymmv)
scap pullups for 10-15x4 and over time you add pullups into the set, say you can manage two pullups, you do those then do scap pullups for the remaining reps. when youre at 5 pullups you do that for 4 sets and if you manage say 3 on the last set you finish with scap pullups. worked a charm for me. assisted machine pullups didnt help for shit
Am I the only one whose bored of pull ups? I was doing them unweighted in the gym and by the time I got to 15, I didn't even want to keep going anymore, so I just jumped off. Going to failure just seems so boring now when it takes 20 reps just to get to that point
Yeah I usually do. Still boring though. I find myself doing them just because its a good calisthenics exercise for maintaining strength, but the gains do cap out. Sure I could always lift more, but it doesn't translate into anything. The holy trinity of lever/handstand/planche doesn't need pull ups, outside of having a base foundation. I guess muscle ups use pull up strength? Not really though.
Really? Is front or back lever the more impressive one. I always forget. I've never tried doing either as I'm training other things. Front lever does seem really easy when you look at it fundamentally.
Assisted machine is a mee-mee
If you can't do 5 right now gain lat strength some other way and also lose fat
Once you can do 5 or more, just grind them. Form doesn't have to be perfect, just get up there.
im scrawny so weight isn’t an issue, and is continuing to do barbell rows enough to gain that lat strength? been doing assisted pullups directly after the row sets and all i ever feel is trap pain and bicep exhaustion from either of them, some days i cant even turn my neck right because of it
I could only do 1 pull ups 3 months ago, just stop assisted pull ups altogether and do regular pull ups. Your numbers will go up quicker than you'd think, I'm able to do 8 now
i cant even do partial pullups anon, it’s bad. do i just switch to a resistance band setup to boost my stabilisers like
suggests, and add in some deadhangs like
says?
do negatives
either jump up from the ground or use a stool, and try to lower yourself from the top down as slow as you can
If you're doing the rows with good form then your lats are fatigued so chins will be tougher (just because you can't feel lat activation doesn't mean they're not being g used, just that you haven't fully activated that mind-muscle connection yet)
Sounds like you're doing SL5X5 which is what I started with, just gain back strength with rows and deadlifts and check in on the pull ups every so often. I went from not being able to complete one to suddenly being to knock out like 6. But I was fat when I started.
(I also personally think barbell rows are more trouble than they're worth and dumbbells are far superior but ymmv)
Do pull ups everyday B
assisted machine sucks dick
it complete removes every single relevant muscle from the equation
Also OP, do dead hangs. They'll help your grip strength
Just keep doing them. If you can't do them just try to do them a solid 10 minutes a day 5 days a week and you will get there pretty quickly.
Do the opposite. Incorporate weighted pullups into the set. Do amrap, and then spam negatives
I progressed to pullups with lat pulldowns untill I could do them 5x BW+5kg.
Worked welll!
scap pullups for 10-15x4 and over time you add pullups into the set, say you can manage two pullups, you do those then do scap pullups for the remaining reps. when youre at 5 pullups you do that for 4 sets and if you manage say 3 on the last set you finish with scap pullups. worked a charm for me. assisted machine pullups didnt help for shit
Getting to pullups by only doing scapular pulls seems wild to me
Am I the only one whose bored of pull ups? I was doing them unweighted in the gym and by the time I got to 15, I didn't even want to keep going anymore, so I just jumped off. Going to failure just seems so boring now when it takes 20 reps just to get to that point
add weight and keep the reps low?
Yeah I usually do. Still boring though. I find myself doing them just because its a good calisthenics exercise for maintaining strength, but the gains do cap out. Sure I could always lift more, but it doesn't translate into anything. The holy trinity of lever/handstand/planche doesn't need pull ups, outside of having a base foundation. I guess muscle ups use pull up strength? Not really though.
Weighted pullups alone can give you a front lever
Really? Is front or back lever the more impressive one. I always forget. I've never tried doing either as I'm training other things. Front lever does seem really easy when you look at it fundamentally.
try doing weighted pull ups with lower reps til failure. I was feeling the same way until I started doing those
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