Funny, I don't recall the Minnesota Coronary Experiment or the Sydney Diet Heart Study occurring in 1956. But you can bypass refuting him point by point, he's both a cardiologist and an internet muzzie, which means his opinion can safely be discarded.
Easy, what is the effect size? If its small then theres no point to increasing your estrogen levels to reduce the chance of cardiovascular disease by 0.0001%
b-because we need to shovel industrially farmed nutrient-deficient subsidized processed crops down the throats of yourself and the animals you eat. you can't just not hard fry your pufa-engorged chicken in seed oils!
It's a huge waste of money
You want other fats as well, but if you're actually eating enough to be impressive by any metric, avoiding seed oils will waste a fortune
You will listen and hear this instead >Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every CREATURE of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Deceivers will attempt to make you believe that meat here is taking about food in general when it explicitly calls out CREATURES. Guess what trannies, YOUR ONIONS IS NOT A CREATURE! Eat meat. Eat flesh.
sneed oils' only somewhat positive use is to fry things and even then they only make it tasteless and odorless, no wonder fatfricks binge on fried foods like there's no tomorrow. now just compare frying some potatoes with coconut oil, they taste miles better but i always have leftovers when i make them because for some reason i lost appetite after eating like half a portion of those (i usually make around 150g of potatoes) while i can easily binge on ZOGdonald's large fries with no problem
I just ate schnitzels pan fried on olive oi, with fries fried in lard, and a veggie mix with olive oil added for taste. I am at peak health in every aspect. Keep seething libtards.
sperging about diet is fricking stupid.
just keep your cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood sugar under control and bingo bango you are going to outlive the average amerilard.
seems to me seed oil avoiding advice is generally aimed at the morbidly obese who probably consume loads of it through fried food etc
the occasional piece of fried chicken is not going to kill you
Seed oils are in the majority of the grocery store foods, anon, and pretty much all restaurant foods use it as well. Why eat something that's just pure fricking garbage and is bad for you on purpose?
>grocery store foods
I buy whole foods wherever possible, unless you're saying my chicken and brown rice and broccoli have canola injected into them, i always cook with olive oil or occasionally coconut
You're probably right about most restaurant foods though.
I'd say the fruit + vegetables + meat + dairy section is more than half the store, yes. If you add the grains, definitely.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'd say the fruit + vegetables + meat + dairy section is more than half the store, yes
Then you're a dumbass who needs to take a walk around the grocery store. Most grain products also have seed oils in them. 40,000-50,000 products on average in each grocery store. Most of that 50,000 are not veggies, fruit, dairy, and fresh meats.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is a rough layout of the store I used for three years. If you exclude the non-edibles, I'd say the majority is what I said.
1 year ago
Anonymous
bro came in with the drawings *skull emoji*
1 year ago
Anonymous
Skull emoji? Stop being a Black person
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hello my euro friend.
My nearest store has about 12 more rows of packaged stuff then 2 of frozen premade stuff.
In inner city bodegas they might at very best have a six foot section of vegetables, and no meat that isn't processed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's a shame. Meanwhile in any random super market in Poland:
1 year ago
Anonymous
oops forgot pic:
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/3YOwJ8N.jpg
oops forgot pic:
Yeah, nope. I lived in Minneapolis, the nearest food was either bodega or gas station which is all packaged crap with long shelf life, the nearest grocery store with a meat counter was a ways away but that burned down. Glad I'm out of there.
It is a bit sad, people only have bad options, but the bodegas don't stock vegetables because people don't buy them before they go bad
1 year ago
Anonymous
Meat and cheese counter are goat. It's usually cheaper than packaged meat. Now I feel like going and buying few slices of the salami with nuts... it's quite fat but it's an awesome treat
test won't show you when the food you are eating is causing inflammation. Inflammation = potential for cancer to develop. Lots of inflammation and cancers developing, and suddenly your immune system can't handle it, so the cancer keeps spreading
"""cohort studies""" absolute nonsense. multiple highly controlled RCTs have shown either no effect or significantly increased cancer and or all cause mortality
Hating on sneed oils was always a meme.
Just like keto/carnivore is a meme
Just like nofap is a meme
Just like ball icing/tanning is a meme
Just like cold showers are a meme.
No of this shit works, good advice gets discraded because it's too popular and bullshit gets popular out of contrarianism.
It's the same as IST or IST praising some garbage indie movie/game but in terms of IST it directly affects your health. And mind, too, i guess
cold showers are pretty great for hair and skin quality health, good for recovery (ie. bad for muscle growth) and they give you some very limited cold resistance
as an active teenager i had insane pimples and shit cold showers helped me a lot to control it.
dont do them anymore since i care more about gains than recovery.
keto is good for hunger management, energy is just ass and since its a low protein diet gains too are ass.
the hatred on seed oils comes from the way they are manufactured not the types of fat they mostly consist of, you actually think mass produced factory bleached, boiled, burned, denatured, de odorised oil used for mechanical lubrication at one point is fricking healthy for you?
Kek you guys are no different from twitter trannies. Speak against the groupthink and you'll start screeching about muh israelites or whatever. Literal NPCs
>you are literally exactly the same as (thing you dislike) and even though I don't hate those things maybe I can trick you into doing what I want by saying you're (thing you dislike)
every time
live more honestly
It's real fricking simple. Have a diet consisting of things we've eaten for hundreds/thousands of years rather than eating processed goyslop that has only been introduced into our diets in the 20th century. Coincidentally around the exact same time that people started getting fatter and more moronic.
I'm at a point where I can't logically see how the pro seed oil people on IST could be anything besides paid shills or israelites. It's such an obvious thing to cut. You don't even have to read any studies or frick all. Just watch a video of how it's made. There's no way you want to put that shit into your body. It's so incredibly obvious it's fricking trash for you.
>I-it's inflammatory-!
Why >H-here's the studies
And here's the studies that show it's not bad for you >OH MY HECKING SCIENCE israeliteS TRANNIES SHILLS SOIBOYS
Man, ISTcels sure are funny
Just quote one of the likely existent papers that completely contradict it. Food science is moronic and you can probably find a paper for every single diet either curing or causing cancer, raising or lowering testosterone, doing this and doing the opposite thing. Don't forget it's totally compromised by corporate and ideological interests on either side.
Sneed oil bad yes everyone knows this.
You're talking to the wrong crowd.
Although this is probably a bot post
>reduces cardiovascular morality
How does the heart determine what is right or wrong?
instinctively
Funny, I don't recall the Minnesota Coronary Experiment or the Sydney Diet Heart Study occurring in 1956. But you can bypass refuting him point by point, he's both a cardiologist and an internet muzzie, which means his opinion can safely be discarded.
Easy, what is the effect size? If its small then theres no point to increasing your estrogen levels to reduce the chance of cardiovascular disease by 0.0001%
>Mohammed
What's wrong with avoiding seed oils?
b-because we need to shovel industrially farmed nutrient-deficient subsidized processed crops down the throats of yourself and the animals you eat. you can't just not hard fry your pufa-engorged chicken in seed oils!
>b-because
Cringe
It's a huge waste of money
You want other fats as well, but if you're actually eating enough to be impressive by any metric, avoiding seed oils will waste a fortune
Oh, is the liverking worship coming back into mainstream? I thought we were done with that stuff, it's so hard to keep up with diet trends these days.
who?
By hiding your thread
>67 years of data on humans
it's all epidemiological bullshit. there are pretty much no nutritional RCTs on humans.
but muh mechanistic science is worse
There are literwlly RCT on humans using seed oils which all show the same thing.
Epidemiology is not real science and proves nothing.
>stop eating seed oils
>feel much better
All the evidence I need
Same, can't even eat takeout now, it just tastes horrible, never realised how much processed oils there are in everything.
Why is he so upset? It like the vaccine cult.
(heil'd)
Based
That means you aren't doing enough cardio fkn lmaoooooo
remove seed oils from diet
don't feel any worse
feel good
I see no reason to add it back in.
Saturated fats have no double bonds so they are way harder to oxidize.
You could present me the handwritten words of god himself telling me seed oils are good for me and i still wont eat them.
You will listen and hear this instead
>Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every CREATURE of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Deceivers will attempt to make you believe that meat here is taking about food in general when it explicitly calls out CREATURES. Guess what trannies, YOUR ONIONS IS NOT A CREATURE! Eat meat. Eat flesh.
>ze bugs are creatures
ITS OGRE
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I don't have the background to understand this article.
based on some random pig study an anon posted once, seed oils are good if you plan on being morbidly obese at least
>memes and fad diets are BS
Yeah no shit.
Seed oils could make my sick grow and I still would avoid them. Frick off israelite shill
sneed oils' only somewhat positive use is to fry things and even then they only make it tasteless and odorless, no wonder fatfricks binge on fried foods like there's no tomorrow. now just compare frying some potatoes with coconut oil, they taste miles better but i always have leftovers when i make them because for some reason i lost appetite after eating like half a portion of those (i usually make around 150g of potatoes) while i can easily binge on ZOGdonald's large fries with no problem
my homie ray peat loves coconut oil
its a saturated fat, unlike other sneed oils
Coconut isn’t a seed. It’s a fruit oil like avocado oil
>present tense
Too soon bro
ZOGdonalds actually had me laughing out loud
It's MacGoynalds my dudes
What's the best thing to season cast iron, bros? Other than lard, I don't use it enough for it to not go bad.
>X FOOD BAD - Science
>X FOOD GOOD - Also science
Nutrition is basically a scam
fake and gay
I just ate schnitzels pan fried on olive oi, with fries fried in lard, and a veggie mix with olive oil added for taste. I am at peak health in every aspect. Keep seething libtards.
sperging about diet is fricking stupid.
just keep your cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood sugar under control and bingo bango you are going to outlive the average amerilard.
seems to me seed oil avoiding advice is generally aimed at the morbidly obese who probably consume loads of it through fried food etc
the occasional piece of fried chicken is not going to kill you
Seed oils are in the majority of the grocery store foods, anon, and pretty much all restaurant foods use it as well. Why eat something that's just pure fricking garbage and is bad for you on purpose?
>grocery store foods
I buy whole foods wherever possible, unless you're saying my chicken and brown rice and broccoli have canola injected into them, i always cook with olive oil or occasionally coconut
You're probably right about most restaurant foods though.
Going seed oil free is pretty much the same as going on a whole foods diet at this point.
Pork fat is full of seed oil LOL, so is chicken fat. Both those animals are fed seed oil diets basically and their fat is heavily loaded with PUFAS.
Eating lean pork and chicken breast lessens it but neither is close to beef/lamb/ruminants in terms of health and avoiding PUFAs
i dont think this is the same directly ingesting oxidized high PUFAs
Just because your food already ate the PUFAs for you doesn't mean you aren't eating the PUFAs.
lean pork and chicken are already a standard gymrat meal anyways anon, i'd say it's already ten times better than the average fad dieters
They put seed oil in milk? Pork? Apples?
Are you braindead from all those seed oils? Is the majority of the grocery store made up of milk, pork and apples, or is it made up of packaged foods?
I'd say the fruit + vegetables + meat + dairy section is more than half the store, yes. If you add the grains, definitely.
>I'd say the fruit + vegetables + meat + dairy section is more than half the store, yes
Then you're a dumbass who needs to take a walk around the grocery store. Most grain products also have seed oils in them. 40,000-50,000 products on average in each grocery store. Most of that 50,000 are not veggies, fruit, dairy, and fresh meats.
This is a rough layout of the store I used for three years. If you exclude the non-edibles, I'd say the majority is what I said.
bro came in with the drawings *skull emoji*
Skull emoji? Stop being a Black person
Hello my euro friend.
My nearest store has about 12 more rows of packaged stuff then 2 of frozen premade stuff.
In inner city bodegas they might at very best have a six foot section of vegetables, and no meat that isn't processed.
That's a shame. Meanwhile in any random super market in Poland:
oops forgot pic:
Yeah, nope. I lived in Minneapolis, the nearest food was either bodega or gas station which is all packaged crap with long shelf life, the nearest grocery store with a meat counter was a ways away but that burned down. Glad I'm out of there.
It is a bit sad, people only have bad options, but the bodegas don't stock vegetables because people don't buy them before they go bad
Meat and cheese counter are goat. It's usually cheaper than packaged meat. Now I feel like going and buying few slices of the salami with nuts... it's quite fat but it's an awesome treat
>seems to me
That all you see is violence in movies and sex on tv?
test won't show you when the food you are eating is causing inflammation. Inflammation = potential for cancer to develop. Lots of inflammation and cancers developing, and suddenly your immune system can't handle it, so the cancer keeps spreading
thoughts on vinegar?
"""cohort studies""" absolute nonsense. multiple highly controlled RCTs have shown either no effect or significantly increased cancer and or all cause mortality
Hating on sneed oils was always a meme.
Just like keto/carnivore is a meme
Just like nofap is a meme
Just like ball icing/tanning is a meme
Just like cold showers are a meme.
No of this shit works, good advice gets discraded because it's too popular and bullshit gets popular out of contrarianism.
It's the same as IST or IST praising some garbage indie movie/game but in terms of IST it directly affects your health. And mind, too, i guess
How is keto a meme?
Its hip to shit on it for a variety of reasons
>How isn't keto a meme?
IST was always cultish. It always starts with a meme until morons take it seriously and start shilling it
The antichrist wrote this post.
Lift twice as hard today so you have the power to defeat him.
that's right mr IST, everything's a meme
cold showers are pretty great for hair and skin quality health, good for recovery (ie. bad for muscle growth) and they give you some very limited cold resistance
as an active teenager i had insane pimples and shit cold showers helped me a lot to control it.
dont do them anymore since i care more about gains than recovery.
keto is good for hunger management, energy is just ass and since its a low protein diet gains too are ass.
the hatred on seed oils comes from the way they are manufactured not the types of fat they mostly consist of, you actually think mass produced factory bleached, boiled, burned, denatured, de odorised oil used for mechanical lubrication at one point is fricking healthy for you?
They hated him because he spoke the truth
Are you israeli by chance?
Kek you guys are no different from twitter trannies. Speak against the groupthink and you'll start screeching about muh israelites or whatever. Literal NPCs
>you are literally exactly the same as (thing you dislike) and even though I don't hate those things maybe I can trick you into doing what I want by saying you're (thing you dislike)
every time
live more honestly
Strawman too long, didn't read
goyslop-induced adhd
>itt morons chanting magic words they don't understand and screaming in fear at clouds
Nothing is protective. Everything kills you. Some things just kill you quicker.
i'm confused, first he says seed oils are cardioprotective then implies that seed oils are bad. which is it? pls don't yell at me i'm asking seriously
He isn't lying. Cardiovascular morality always decreases with the consumption of sneed oil.
It's real fricking simple. Have a diet consisting of things we've eaten for hundreds/thousands of years rather than eating processed goyslop that has only been introduced into our diets in the 20th century. Coincidentally around the exact same time that people started getting fatter and more moronic.
I'm at a point where I can't logically see how the pro seed oil people on IST could be anything besides paid shills or israelites. It's such an obvious thing to cut. You don't even have to read any studies or frick all. Just watch a video of how it's made. There's no way you want to put that shit into your body. It's so incredibly obvious it's fricking trash for you.
>I-it's inflammatory-!
Why
>H-here's the studies
And here's the studies that show it's not bad for you
>OH MY HECKING SCIENCE israeliteS TRANNIES SHILLS SOIBOYS
Man, ISTcels sure are funny
> Trusting The Science in the year of our lord: {insert date here}
The same way I refute everything they tell me to do, by simply doing the opposite of what they purport and therefore experiencing better outcomes.
Just quote one of the likely existent papers that completely contradict it. Food science is moronic and you can probably find a paper for every single diet either curing or causing cancer, raising or lowering testosterone, doing this and doing the opposite thing. Don't forget it's totally compromised by corporate and ideological interests on either side.