How. Legitimately HOW does my face look this fricking bad from a low angle. I cant even conceptualize it in my head.
What surgery can I get to fix this? Will being leaner even help? 127lb 5'10
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How. Legitimately HOW does my face look this fucking bad from a low angle. I cant even conceptualize it in my head.
Nobody looks good at every angle.
You look fine on the right, decent jaw.
Don't mutilate yourself.
127lbs is too light, bulk up please
80% of people I talk to see me from below. If I bulk up my face will get fatter. I know there's not such thing as spot reduction, but will gaining more muscle cause me to lose fat in my neck area? Or should I just consider surgery?
You can tone your neck muscles, that might help, but EVERYONE looks weird from below when eye contact is maintained.
Spot reduction isnt totally bullshit imo, but when I say bulk up I mean 'gain muscle' because, holy shit 127lbs is skeletal.
Dont obsess over these minor things
stop considering surgery insecure homosexual
>80% of people I talk to see me from below.
Hello there Mr. Weinstein.
Are you moronic, bro? They're not standing 2 inches away from you.
When a girl sucks my dick i have to cover her eyes.
>80% of people I talk to see me from below
Are you Warwick Davis' PA or something
>considering surgery
>due to looking unflattering from a low angle no one sees him from
What if my low angle is disgusting, and i'm 6'5 so everyone sees me that way?
Tough shit, maybe crouch more often
wheelchair
When a girl sucks his dick she will see it and leave him
i went through this same fricking bullshit when i was like 23, i started taking pics of myself from the side and was like "jesus fricking christ i look moronic why do i look like this how do i fix it"
and then i had sex with like 20 different women and nearly all of them said they liked how i looked and complimented me on parts of me i was insecure about
I get plenty of positive attention from women but im still a fricking b***h about this. I REALLY fricking hate what it looks like. Like mental illness tier hatred
>All of them said they liked how i looked and complimented me on parts of me i was insecure about
That boosts my ego for a little bit but then I go back to being an insecure b***h after a month of no pussy.
Wow, how great for you. I never had self image issues and didn't mind that my facial structure is too bad until i got mocked and bullied because of it. Then i tried going under 12% bodyfat, still fricked up, my face bones are just ugly. Unlike you my insecurity comes from others berating me, getting rejected because of my face. Never got a compliment. Oh but now you will reply "hrm imagine caring what otherd think" when you yourself said that your insecurities were only fixed when other people comllimented you and gave you positive interactions. So much for being the "stoic sigma self improver", you just needed to get laid. If i got laid and had people complimenting me i wouldn't be insecure either.
I will have sex with you and compliment you :3
I am not gay thoughever
Me neither but you sound like you need a win
There's no improvement for you because your soul has been poisoned by the mistreatment.
I'm sorry anon.
all that matters is body fat%. The only reason I'm not 300 pounds is because it's impossible to maintain a good body fat% at that weight. You are 18-21% body fat and you are too low weight to simply be able to lose weight to lower your body fat meaning you need to gain muscle. This will help you tighten your face, you won't look like a bodybuilder because you wont be on roids.
Thank you, anon.
I posted in another thread but here's my body. I haven't been eating for 2 months due to extreme illness
Eating or lifting****
If you can drink, drink protein powder stuff and sweetened milks eg chocolate milk.
You NEED MORE PROTEIN AND CALORIES.
Also brush your teeth twice a day, especially before you go to sleep
What's the point if I can't lift right now? I have like no muscle anyways
The point is to maintain what muscle you have and stop you wasting away.
You NEED protein
Also having more muscle gives you more of an ability to lose fat due to the passive/active energy demands of muscle.
So dont avoid building muscle.
I'm not. I really don't like being this small and fat.
Same
I don't have an overbite, my neck is just really fricking fat.
>I really don't like being this small and fat
You are NOT fat, but you do need more muscle and the nutrients to support that
I'm skinnyfat. I'm hoping the fat will go away quickly once I gain muscle. I used to weigh 165 last year, it dropped off pretty easily but plateau'd. I'm assuming it's due to how little muscle I have.
>but plateau'd. I'm assuming it's due to how little muscle I have.
It is
Someone like you should do cardio for fat loss, not dieting, as its small defecit will lose only fat and its non-diet approach will let you get more protein etc.
How about lifting with a protein heavy caloric deficit? Or should I just lift cardio and eat a lot?
Your bodytype wont suit any major diet-based calorie defecit.
My reccomendation is to eat for your body and exercise needs, which means plenty of protein.
And if you want to cut fat, do cardio without altering your maintenance/gaining diet, to create a non-nutrient calorie defecit.
Best cardio will be the type that wont require recovery or cause metabolic adaptation, ie LISS (low intensity, steady state). Eg: walking, cycling and plenty of it
It will. But LIFT
You have aesthetic twunk potential.
Thanks, that's my goal, or ottermode. I'm just gonna lift and see what happens, focusing more on arms shoulders and lats
You look exactly like someone I knew, even the hair. But he died, so I guess it's not you.
Yeah I've never died before
Holy fricking shit what the hell
Dude why the frick do you have my exact phenotype except maybe like a year older
Hell the natural body structure isn't too far off other than not having pretty bad pectus
Post it
>127lbs
That is honestly a more concerning issue. And I am not even a 'if you're not 200lbs you're not a man' powershitter.
you have a child's mandible and a severe overbite from the looks of it(consult an orthodontist for this shit), check with a surgeon specializing in chin advancements like genio, or fixing jaw recessions like bimax, dependant on your specific case they'll suit you with the best options
You must be american lol, trying to push surgery on the insecure and the under-informed.
>"guys I have a problem"
>*proposes an actual solution that achieves the desired results*
>omg what is wrong with you are you insane noooooo you can't do this he just needs skin caaaare
I hate homosexuals like you two and I wish you nothing but utter death
>proposes an actual solution
No no, you proposed invasive surgery without any analysis beforehand.
You fool.
All surgeries are invasive moron, it doesn't make them any worse, I don't see what's the problem with someone fixing a fundamental problem with their face and that being the bone structure I.e: the most important aspect of it. you ever see a homosexual getting a surgery to fix his heart and you react by saying he needs cardio instead? he has a recessed chin and a weak short mandible a.k.a signs of a recessed jaw
>without analysis
exactly the reason I told him to consult an orthodontist and a surgeon not some homosexuals on IST denying reality
>"guys I have a problem"
His real problem is his self-image. Not the bone structure of his face.
That's the analysis you lacked.
Everyone's real problem is self image If they have defective characteristics, fatties are actually fat, dyels are actually dyel and he is really recessed. it's gaslighting morons like yourself convincing people that beauty is on the inside like a brainwashed dog of zog same as the rest of coping subhuman cattle.
I respect people who try fixing their problem instead of blaming genetics and women or gaslighting themselves to the lie that looks aren't life.
But what you advocate is mutilation if it is not medically neccesary
>not medically necessary
there is a whole slew of medical complications a recessed jaw can cause actually, including sleep apnea and difficulty chewing food. and I've told him to consult a frickin surgeon not to waltz into a clinic and hold the doctor at gun point. there is an eligibility factor to these cases and he may not be deemed fit for surgery afrer all, but if he has a flaw he should fix it instead of letting it consume him
Again, if its NOT medically neccesary, it IS mutilation.
>You have sleep apnea and difficulty chewing because I said so
OP never complained about any of those things in this thread
Now that I can compare them side by side we're actually pretty far apart geg
oh well
If you're fricking qts without paying for it then you're genetically blessed IMO.
I'm not trying to gaslight this homie into thinking that beauty is entirely subjective or about self-image. I agree with you there. That kind of "body positivity" is moronic and zogged to frick.
Some people are genetic dead-ends without the help. I'm cool with telling those people to get whatever surgery they need in order to get ahead in life.
"Body positivity" is ZOG, but don't you think that never ending plastic is just as degenerate and ZOG? Just look at the extremes celebs and South Koreans go to.
homie I swear on the life of my living mother That I've told him to consult a surgeon, for the love of Todd Howard and Larry fink and Donald trump and franchisko lachowsku the 4 most posted frickers on IST; I told him to consult a surgeon and an orthodontist for fixing any dental problems that may exist, he may not be recessed, he may simply have a weird fricked up way of taking pics way too close to the face, he may have been a descendant of bears for all I frickin care.
and yes I agree with you, if you already have bones then surgery will 95% botch you and 5% make no difference hence the reason I've told him to do a consultation first, Hemsworth tried doing it and he's not getting any jobs because of it, too much shit in your face can create a noticeable tear on the skin and too much volume in one area that doesn't harmonize with the rest of the skull, hence why a dutifully recommend to check an orthodentist first for any malocclusions.
You dumb c**t, if the surgeon has a financial motive they are prone to mutilate.
Your autistic walls of text are a poor substitute for your lack of meaningful arguments.
Doctor Finkberg, I have a weak jaw and I'm self conscious about it. What can I do?
>Oh, Anon! we can fix that right up and give you the chiseled Jaw of your dreams. Women will swoon from the mere sight of you.
>That will be $30,000, plus tip.
>don't fix your dental problems homosexual
>remain unwanted and undesired it's le women's fault they don't love you
>don't fix your dental problems homosexual
>remain unwanted
Lel.
not what we are saying moron
You are the cattle. You try to achieve standards of beauty set by others outside yourself. You're a slave to them.
Also the "surgery" is extremely invasive with months of recovery time and a non negligible chance of things going wrong
>"guys I have a problem"
>*proposes an actual solution that achieves the desired results*
>Reality: There is no problem, but there's an opportunity to squeeze some money out of the weak and helpless
So American.
It is common for peddlers of false hope such as yourself to demonize those who promote solutions as greedy since you homosexuals would no longer find an audience to your pseudoscience
>people disagree on the most trivial of opinions
>become extremely emotional
>"yep, they deserve to die"
you seem very self secure and confident anon, I will definitely take your advice seriously
Suggesting he goes under the knife when he's a tall white guy already getting laid constantly? Sounds moronic.
You Black folk need philosophy
>fitness
At least it has something to do with fat reduction, unlike the 20 baby monkey torture threads on the board tonight
At least it's not another monke snuff thread
Stop being dyel. I stopped lifting and got skinny. But my face still looks fat. Your face has some muscles. You know that feel when you deadlift super heavy. Your face feels like it's getting pulled. You need that to look chiseled
Holy shit, you body dysmorphia gym monkeys are so fricking moronic.
>fitness
why would u care about that angle? are you trying to rizz up midgets?
If you weren't 5'4 you'd understand
U cant get any leaner
I can, I have fat deposits on my body and chin. My lack of muscle is the issue
Then lift, homie
>127lb 5'10
>1
Smile! Keep your face muscles relaxed! A good vibe is the first step
>2
You look fine, maybe a touch of overbite but with a decent jaw - neither good nor bad
>3
Either strive to stay clean shaven year round or commit to a tactically placed beard to make your face pop
>4
You are actually leaning back your neck in the left picture. While these days many of us have shrimp necks, we naturally have them at a slightly forward facing angle - seems the case in the right pic. Try and catch yourself in some reflective surface when you are just walking around, you'll see it's true, we straighten it often while taking pics etc, but that's not how you look just hanging around. With proprer posture, the problem is mitigated.
>5
Lift. If I remember from last thread you had already started. Over time, your face will get better due to hormones and other shit.
>6
Keep your hair long, it ties up your face.
>7
Try and hold your tongue on you palate when resting, like mewing. Over time it can suck in a bit of that underface skin - nothing as drastic as some anons claim tho
Keep these 7 points in mind and you'll get the best jaw you can. Keep in mind: it isn't a problem right now, just not a strong point. 0 isn't -1. You can make it better, but don't stress over it, and definitely don't get surgery, only do it for actual problems like gyno.
Oh also eat a bit more and don't worry about fat, once you actually start being active it's stored more harmoniously and comes off quicker
Sweet
OP you need to just get off this site for a couple of days
>this is the person calling you a dyel
many such cases
You sound like a teenage girl worrying about her boobs.
Grow.
>127lb 5'10
Start lifting DYEL homosexual
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Stop being a necklette. Look at hubermans neck. His neck girth alone makes women wet
>kisses
You're so fricking gay for caring about this you're a frickint homosexual. This level of insecurity is your real problem. No one gives a shit. No one cares. You are probably a decent average looking dude autistically worrying someone is going to be looking at you directly from below. You reek of the insecurity and everyone can fricking tell and there is nothing that is more unattractive than insecurity
I am attractive but I want to improve myself as much as I can. You reek of insecurity because of how angry this is making you. If you wanted to be the best possible version of yourself you'd understand
i think you'll regret spending so much time/effort/ work/money trying to engineer a "better" version of yourself.
it's a goal which can never be satisfied, and no matter how hard you work, it's always going to be PURELY temporary. i think it's better to focus on things which provide a sense of fulfillment despite your inevitable death, or which will outlast you in some way.
the difference with fitness is that it provides strength and well-being, which is worth more than the time you spend on it, and which can be used as a means for other more important things.
if "improving" yourself in this way is self-evidently worthwhile to you, do it, and don't listen to anyone, but be sure you're not doing it out of impulse & that you're truly the one making the decision
I understand. This isn't my only goal in life. I do this for myself though, I really don't give a frick about what other people think of me. I want to be attractive to myself and if there is something I can change about myself that I want, I'll do it.
Shave and tan