How much gains am I leaving on the table by not taking creatine or preworkout?
I'm avoiding all that shit since I don't want to take a chance at it affecting my hair, I'm already on fin and min (and making gains) and I don't want to frick with that
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I started taking creatine 3 months ago and I fricking love it. My lifts shot up by like 20%. I have never had balding issues so that doesn´t concern me.
>I have never had balding issues so that doesn´t concern me.
Famous last words
I DONT TAKE IT,
IT IS PROVEN BY "SCIENCE" TO HELP,
I NEVER FELT ANY BETTEE BY TAKING IT,
JUST ANOTHER PILL TO SELL BY THE JUDEN
maybe that's why you have dyel SBD numbers at 30% bodyfat, you should try any help you can get for these shitty genes
I took it for like a month and my lifts and mood increased by a lot, I reccomend
Creatine? Must have the opposite effect on me I’m irritable as frick on it
A decent chunk, from creatine you're mostly missing some muscle fullness. I haven't noticed other effects. Caffeine is essential. Preworkouts are not that big of a deal, just get a caffeine dose before the gym and ideally stop using caffeine except for this purpose. You'll figure out good ranges. I notice no difference between pre blends and straight up caffeine pills. Some blends make you itchy, adds nothing to the workout btw.
The difference could be missing an extra rep, a set, a whole exercise. It's worth doing
It also gives you a reason to work out if you're not feeling it because being idle on preworkout feels like shit.
>baldness
Such a meme. I'm pretty sure this stems from guys using gear and saying it's "just creatine bro" thus generating a false connection between creatine and hair loss. Many such cases in this business
remember to do some blood work and check you urea levels
Probably none
I'm 34, been taking creatine and preworkouts for a decade and have the thickest long curly zoomer hair you could imagine. I've even done a small cycle for 3 months.
But it sounds like your hair genetics are fricked and you are predisposed to DHT hairloss so yeah sucks sorry man.
that poor, poor spine
That the least of her worries
Context on pic
she dood?
Pretty sure she ded. idk anything else, OP’s pic made me remember I saw it on some other board
what a terrible shame... is the inside of the body still warm?
holy frick that's crazy
context? that can't be from some depraved porn can it? it's just plain old murder
he was a streamer and his viewers dared him to
I know it's bad form to ask for spoonfeeding but I can't find anything about it, can you tell me a name or something?
Never attribute to true crime that which can be attributed to some weird bespoke porn
what the frick
>chanIST.com
Had to look this shit up, found out its fake, fewwww.
Turns out there's a fetish for burying women in snow. There really is a fetish for everything.
Don't need creatine; just eat meat
Don't need preworkout at all.
I've always asked myself why even take creatine unless you are going to take a test or before the summer.
What's the point of artificially boosting your lifts; if your goal is building muscles you are only moving the posts 10% further, your body only cares about progressive overload, doesnt care if you went from 100 to 110 or 110 to 121
Supposely aside from water content creatine affects atp in such a way that it allows more volume or intensity per session and thus more gains.
Personally I've never used it. Might in the distant future if I ever start taking lifting very seriously or hit some plateau.
No preworkout either, or even coffee/caffeine. Frick 'requiring' all sorts of meme supplements just to hit the gym.
Creatine might have a slight advantage for what it's advertised as but PWK is a blatant fricking meme and nobody needs it for day to day exercise. If you're feeling sluggish, just get more sleep and work out after your morning cuppa
ok so i want to take creatine. which brand do u guys suggest? optimum nutrition? also pill or powder form? i’m leaning more pill for convenience.
Considering it's the only natrual suppliment that does anything demonstrable. Probably most of them if you're over 25.
none
taking creatine roughly translates to 30% faster gains on average. non responders getting worse and high responders getting more.
https://www.strongerbyscience.com/creatine-effect-size/
tl;dr
>In this case, the math is pretty simple. The average standardized mean difference for within-group hypertrophy outcomes is 0.34 in exercise science research. So, measures of muscle size generally increase by about 0.34 standard deviations following a training intervention. This meta-analysis suggests that creatine has an additive effect on hypertrophy, associated with a standardized mean difference of 0.11. So, when people take creatine, their muscle size increases by an additional 0.11 standard deviations. That means, in real terms, this meta-analysis suggests that creatine will help you build muscle about 1/3rd faster than you otherwise would have.
>I personally don’t view that as a trivial effect. If I could choose between building 3 pounds of muscle or 4 pounds of muscle, I’m probably going to choose 4 pounds of muscle. That’s not a night-and-day difference, but it’s certainly a notable difference.
>I’ll also note that I checked the within-group effect sizes in the present creatine meta-analysis to make sure they tracked with the rest of the literature. The average within-group effect size in the placebo groups: 0.33. In other words, these studies dovetail nicely with the rest of the hypertrophy literature, bolstering the takeaway that creatine increases your rate of muscle growth by approximately 1/3rd.
What's preworkout anyway? Just cofeine?
mostly its just caffeine but theres also methylliberine, yohimbe, halocstachine, and octopamine supplements which are all various kinds of stimulants similar to ephedrine or caffeine
Theres also turkesterone products which supposedly increase testosterone.
I've never tried any of these but im curious to hear what the effects are like from anyone who has tried them, I imagine the massive amount of caffeine mixed with these weird supplements usually just makes them feel like aggressive caffeine, but please anyone let me know if you have any actual experiences
Creatine? A lot. At 280lbs bw and above 35% bf, I had bicep veins. Once I stopped taking creatine, the bicep veins were GONE.
Still training without it and I was able to recover the strength and forearm veins but bicep veins? Only if I lose weight.
Put creatine in your protein shakes do not put that shit in plain water it's disgusting
Creatine is a big maybe for a lot of guys. It *will* increase your size, and quite noticeably too... But, it's all water weight. To that end, I think it also makes you look kind of "soft," if that makes sense... Almost like you are a few body fat % points higher. It also makes you thirsty as frick, and run the risk of balding. Do with that info what you will-- the real reason guys take it is because it will help you load more pounds on the bar, which can help you progress quickly if you know what you're doing. Personally, I don't take it, because I don't want to strain my kidneys.
Preworkout, on the other hand, is 100% worth it IMHO depending on what you're taking. You probably don't need/ want the really hardcore stuff (DMAA/ DMHA, etc...) but L-Theanine and Beta Alanine have been absolute gamechangers for me, in addition to everything else I am consistently taking. I could work out for hours at a time before, but now I am able to do so much more effectively and hit bigger sets because of the Beta Alanine. Find a pre that has everything you want and nothing you don't, in the correct dosages.