15 per set is the absolute minimum imo. If you can get to 18 per set then increase.
I like doing 20 + resting 10s + amrap + repeat until you cannot do a rep on the amrap. I do these with 17.5kg though, I don't know if it's good but I like doing it this way.
Damn 17.5 kg is pretty heavy. I think you're on to something with traing shoulders with high intensity. Probably most arm isolations. Do anything else for shoulders?
ohp with the bar until my gym decided to frick it up for me, now i do seated db ohp. Also facepulls and upright row.
DB OHP fricks me up if i go near failure, so i do it 3 RIR, facepulls same as raises. Upright row from what i've seen depends on the person, I like it wide grip and go all the way up and go down as slow as an rdl.
I just my own Black person version that requires a chain. I developed mild tennis elbow from the regular version with db's because of the shitty long leverage. chain is close to my elbow so there is almost no force on the elbow. same delt burn but much better on the elbow. requires me to do them one delt at a time tho but its fine.
>weakness
I can strictly ohp 70kg for reps (bw 78kg), no push pressing. You cant tell me I have weak shoulders. I have seen what you guys press on average. You are literally just making things up here without even knowing what I can do or how I look like like. lol
Bro chill hes trying to help you. There's a lot of shit in the shoulder that ohp and lat raises dont train. Rotator etc that you do more physio style exercises for
You are a stupid newbie if you think you're gonna get big delts from OHP. But you do you, don't cry like a b***h when you're gonna be still narrow like a woman, even after 5 years of lifting.
I've done an experiment doing them at least 4-5 times a week for 8 weeks using relatively light weight, just 3 sets of 12-20 and just accumlated the volume over time and results were great. Only issue was that I developed a pretty bad pain where some of the forearm muscles attach to the elbow, so I gave up on that again.
>Only issue was that I developed a pretty bad pain where some of the forearm muscles attach to the elbow, so I gave up on that again.
well that was my problem aswell, I am the guy here.
https://i.imgur.com/tk7OegJ.jpg
I just my own Black person version that requires a chain. I developed mild tennis elbow from the regular version with db's because of the shitty long leverage. chain is close to my elbow so there is almost no force on the elbow. same delt burn but much better on the elbow. requires me to do them one delt at a time tho but its fine.
apparently you also have a """""weakness and query instability in the shoulder and shoulder girdle""""""
at least twice a week. 10 sets is enough
these things never feel right
I just mostly feel my traps
Lower weight, bend slightly.
Sit down and use plates instead of dumbbells .
Try them on cables, feels a lot more natural than dumbells to me
choke up a little on the weights and bend your elbows a little bit
Love them, should I increase the weight if I can do 15 reps for 3 sets?
Currently I can do those with 14 kg
15 per set is the absolute minimum imo. If you can get to 18 per set then increase.
Will do
>Doing 12+ reps ever
Absolute waste of strength that could be utilised in other shoulder exercises.
You're meant to do them as a closer set after youve done main lifts like shoulderpress/OHP
>I can do those with 14 kg
/fit/gays will have absolute meltdown. Anything above 12kg for Laterals is insane for DYELS here.
You won't get mires until you're doing these with 40s or 50s
I like doing 20 + resting 10s + amrap + repeat until you cannot do a rep on the amrap. I do these with 17.5kg though, I don't know if it's good but I like doing it this way.
Damn 17.5 kg is pretty heavy. I think you're on to something with traing shoulders with high intensity. Probably most arm isolations. Do anything else for shoulders?
ohp with the bar until my gym decided to frick it up for me, now i do seated db ohp. Also facepulls and upright row.
DB OHP fricks me up if i go near failure, so i do it 3 RIR, facepulls same as raises. Upright row from what i've seen depends on the person, I like it wide grip and go all the way up and go down as slow as an rdl.
I do these 3x a week
Who Heavy n Light combo here?
I do:
3x6-8 of Heavy Laterals with shittier form
3x15-18 Light Laterals with good form
The burn is insane.
I just my own Black person version that requires a chain. I developed mild tennis elbow from the regular version with db's because of the shitty long leverage. chain is close to my elbow so there is almost no force on the elbow. same delt burn but much better on the elbow. requires me to do them one delt at a time tho but its fine.
you have tennis elbow because of weakness and query instability in the shoulder and shoulder girdle
>weakness
I can strictly ohp 70kg for reps (bw 78kg), no push pressing. You cant tell me I have weak shoulders. I have seen what you guys press on average. You are literally just making things up here without even knowing what I can do or how I look like like. lol
Bro chill hes trying to help you. There's a lot of shit in the shoulder that ohp and lat raises dont train. Rotator etc that you do more physio style exercises for
OHP is shit for Shoulder Developement, when will you morons fricking learn.
this is the most popular dyel take on fit
OHP only works your front delts and triceps.
You are a stupid newbie if you think you're gonna get big delts from OHP. But you do you, don't cry like a b***h when you're gonna be still narrow like a woman, even after 5 years of lifting.
Once a week one set to failure
Alle Mentzer gays should be forced to post their bodies.
I've done an experiment doing them at least 4-5 times a week for 8 weeks using relatively light weight, just 3 sets of 12-20 and just accumlated the volume over time and results were great. Only issue was that I developed a pretty bad pain where some of the forearm muscles attach to the elbow, so I gave up on that again.
>Only issue was that I developed a pretty bad pain where some of the forearm muscles attach to the elbow, so I gave up on that again.
well that was my problem aswell, I am the guy here.
apparently you also have a """""weakness and query instability in the shoulder and shoulder girdle""""""