how the fuck do i get more knockout power when lifting and weighted calisthenics don't seem to increase it and just take too much recovery away?

how the fuck do i get more knockout power when lifting and weighted calisthenics don't seem to increase it and just take too much recovery away? it seems like numbers in compound lifts just aren't representative at all of punching and kicks at this point. should i do more specific exercises like (anti)rotational stuff? focus on numbers at all? high rep calisthenics?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Specificity is king

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You trying to make your punches/kicks stronger?
    If so just train them. Learn to transfer bodyweight into moves and you are golden.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      try telling the average fitcel (started lifting 2 weeks ago and is mainly an LULZ user) that the best way of training something is in fact, practicing the activity itself

      no, he NEEDS to acquire the forbidden technique, he KNOWS that we have a method of improving your punches without ever extending an arm and he absolutely WILL NOT stop until he gets it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Punch shit hard 3xfailure 3 days a week.
        Gloves optional but recommended for recovery purposes.

        i obviously already train my martial art 3x a week, i just want to do more.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          see if you train hard enough three times a week your knuckles will be hurting too much to do more, if you're "looking to do more" you're not doing enough to begin with

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Punch shit hard 3xfailure 3 days a week.
    Gloves optional but recommended for recovery purposes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gloves optional but recommended
      bros really fetishize having ass painful callouses on their palms but god forbid they have beautifully toned knuckles from punching

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        punched walls at age 15,
        Absolute beast in fights now

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          do you have knuckle callouses though

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the skin literaly wears off

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's retarded amount of training imo, you don't have to go past red, after which stop for the day and keep knocking on that wall everyday, if you get a sharp & pinching feeling, stop and come back stronger the next day.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              based

              That's retarded amount of training imo, you don't have to go past red, after which stop for the day and keep knocking on that wall everyday, if you get a sharp & pinching feeling, stop and come back stronger the next day.

              unbased

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Self-harm is based.
                > Clever self-harm is not based???

                Back to LULZ gay frog. I can chain punch the wall for hours now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I literally do not give a fuck about health, I just want to develop knuckle callouses and I want this solely because I like how they look

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                just smash your knuckles against sharp rocks then retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and what the fuck do you think I'm doing out here literally hitting each knuckle with a ball peen hammer twice a week for an entire hour?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If your goal is to maximize your power your going to be able to punch way harder with gloves and wraps on.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The average untrained man can punch with 150 psi of force.

    The average amateur boxer can punch with 770 psi.

    You're fiddling around the edges by increasing your strength if all you're doing is punching with your shoulder. A trained boxer has the technique to generate force with the whole of their body.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >googles average punching psi
      >proceeds to copy paste it so he can pretend like he knows his shit
      why even answer a question if you don't know the answer? you don't get updoots here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      my coach says one of my weaknesses is the power in my hands, my kicks are apparently fine. technique also, i spent some time improving my boxing as a muaythai/kickboxer. i just want to be more powerful in general.

      see if you train hard enough three times a week your knuckles will be hurting too much to do more, if you're "looking to do more" you're not doing enough to begin with

      bullshit, my hands are conditioned and don't require specific recovery after hitting pads and bags and people.

      How often do you actually train the rotation of your core muscles?
      Punching power is about how fast you can accelerate your fist before it impacts, that's 90% in you rotating your upper body really fast.

      a lot in training, in spare time not much

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >don't require specific recovery after hitting pads and bags and people
        take off the gloves and hit them more
        also get yourself some heavy ass 20 oz gloves

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hand/arm itself is only a part of the equation.
        Get yourself in a stance that's good for you.
        And remember that the power comes from your feet, legs, hips, core, shoulders and then finally from your arms.
        Turning your hips has to happen fast for a good punch

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How often do you actually train the rotation of your core muscles?
    Punching power is about how fast you can accelerate your fist before it impacts, that's 90% in you rotating your upper body really fast.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not too much. Rotation of the upper body is reliant on footwork. What you're actually doing is moving your feet and legs in a way that opens or closes your hips for the loadup and then the actual throwing of the strike. Your upper body only follows what your hips are doing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        kys retard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you don't box you should shut your fucking mouth.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Land Mine Presses and Kettlebell Swings. Maybe indian clubs if you got hours to spend weighted carido essentially that WILL build grip and striking strength.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nobody has given a good answer yer.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Single shot KO's are pretty much a God-given ability, but you can train the appropriate muscles with exercises like beating a tractor tire with a sledgehammer or throwing a medicine ball against a wall to improve what you've got and avoid snap city. Anecdotally, sprint training is pretty great for power generation and translates well to short explosive movements like punches and kicks
    Also, all the techniquefags itt can be safely disregarded. If you're training to fight at all, it's a fucking given that you're hitting the heavy bag. Strength and power training is a separate thing that every legit fighter does on top of bagwork.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      any point in sprinting if i already do kettlebell swings?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd say it's still worth it for the coordination gains, especially for kicks. The motion of taking off sprinting from a standing start has a lot of similarities to throwing a kick. Kettlebell swings are top-tier though, I meant to mention them.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry for the black pill, but most of the greats including Tyson have said it's something you're born with, or not. My advice is to control what you can control: technique, endurance, and strength, in that order of importance.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      just cause people have varying potentials doesn't mean i've hit mine yet. and i wont be slave to my genetics anyway, especially if they're weak.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm reading Dr. Michael Colgan's "New Power Program" since Firas Zahabi recommends it a lot. He says that you shouldn't be doing more than 5 reps with your lifts because after 5 reps the fast twitch fibers which give you explosive power stop firing, so even if you push out 8 or 9 reps, you're not improving your explosiveness. It will make your muscles bigger, but in this case you don't want that because unnecessarily big muscles will just slow you down and reduce your knockout power. He also says not to do heavy lifts all year long since it will lead to injury and fatigue, and he lays out a program to maximize strength to peak during a certain season.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that guy is fucking retarded and has no understanding of motor unit recruitment

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Firas Zahabi recommends it a lot.
      Firas is a retard. Canadian Edmund before Edmund was even a meme coach.
      > He says that you shouldn't be doing more than 5 reps with your lifts because after 5 reps the fast twitch fibers which give you explosive power stop firing, so even if you push out 8 or 9 reps, you're not improving your explosiveness. It will make your muscles bigger, but in this case you don't want that because unnecessarily big muscles will just slow you down and reduce your knockout power
      Case in point, believing retarded shit.
      Fast twitch fibers don't "stop firing" and for a muscle to become stronger it MUST become bigger, it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for a muscle to become stronger without getting bigger. That so many retards fail to understand a very basic fact of physics and physiology seldom surprises me anymore but never fails to irritate. The only fucking thing muscles do, the ONLY thing they can do, is produce force via muscular contraction. The nervous component is largely genetic and highly specific to the task (which is why the only sensible answer in this thread is to practice punching more, in the actual conditions you would punch in), and thus other than the skill, the only possible area one could increase their power is to make the muscles involved in the work LARGER and capable of exerting MORE FORCE. Incidentally, we have stumbled on the final way you could increase the power of your punch which is to increase your physical mass. That you want to compete in a sport with weight classes makes this last option perhaps less desirable depending on other considerations such as if you would be at a reach disadvantage if you moved up in weight class.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a book by Jack Dempsey called "Championship fighting" where he breaks down the mechanics of punching properly.

    Beyond reading it and understanding it, you need to repeat the movements, prime the motor patterns, and learn to fire them relaxed and untelegraphed, minimizing excess energy consumption and antagonistic muscle resistance. Power is in technique.

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