How the hell did they achieve these physiques in 300bc eating nothing but bread, is dieting that important?
How the hell did they achieve these physiques in 300bc eating nothing but bread, is dieting that important?
How the hell did they achieve these physiques in 300bc eating nothing but bread, is dieting that important?
aryans raised cattle
they lived on dairy products and meat
He's got pretty shitty calves for someone who supposedly does calf raises
10/10.
Almost makes up for the constant raypeat and keto bickering done by the resident morons
nice one
Ehheheh
Carlos!
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I don't get it
i am not sure but it seems a reference to the story of the guy who got buff by carrying a calf up and down a hill every day. as the calf grew so did his muscles.
Ancient Greeks were more EEF than modern Greeks and even modern Greeks are 1/3rd steppe AT MOST
By walking, running and training. Now we spent most of our developing years sitting on a chair either listening to a stupid teacher or in front of a screen
Mostly this. People often underestimate the impact of hard work on a child's developing body.
My circle of friends are an excellent example of this. Lots of us were big into martial arts from a very young age; dilligently training 4-5 times a week from age 5ish onwards (DBZ was unironically the reason for the fervor)
Fast forward to our late 20s/early 30s, we're all still fit but with varying degrees of commitment, though we all still train at least once a week. Compared to our normie friends, even the laziest amongst us maintains abs and a six pack with ease. We all have striations and definition that those normies are in awe of, and none of us diet stringently (one of us eats goyslop fairly regularly and will die before he's 50, but he looks great and he's strong)
Anecdotally speaking, sitting in front of a tv or computer during your formative years seems to be the biggest contributor to stunted physical improvement in adulthood. Bread #2.
I wasn't very active as a kid. Outside of normal stuff like riding my bike around town. I didn't start exercise until I was 18 and I'm almost 40 now and in better shape then most people I know.
Statues are made out of composites.
So if the artist was working on the legs he would look for a guy with beefy legs and if he wanted to do the arms he would look for a guy with beefy arms.
Also this.
They also didn't have processed foods.
The water didn't have microplastics or soi so the average test level was basically in the steroid range
This cope exists for homosexuals who want to keep posting Greek statues and bodybuilders in their political memes while having an excuse for why they themselves look like shit
They weren't eating only bread they had meat and fish here and there and more importantly dairy and fruits/veg
Also if someone who looked exactly like this statue posted their body on IST half the people in this thread would call them dyel lol
I look like OP image and you just described my life every time I cbt
The predominant reason for lower test today is greater aromatase because people are fatter now
in those days if you wanted to eat something you had to hunt it or wait til it was ready to farm and then mill and then cook and then bake. nowadays we can get thousands of calories for a few hours of work. that's the difference.
this is literally the fricking answer. people had to fricking kill and then clean animals to eat or they had to farm and tend and then process crops to eat. eating was a fricking chore so people were naturally lean. what the frick don't you people understand about this.
so even with relatively low protein or caloric intake, i can still develop a pretty ok physicque just from excercise alone?
um, of course. the human body is built to survive. we've been on this planet for literally thousands of years and only a very very small fraction of that was with any kind of dietary knowledge. if you have to run after every meal you want, and then you have to kill it and clean it and drain it and butcher it and cook it, you'd be pretty fricking lean too
so i dont have to worry that much about my diet affecting my gains as long as im not eating like an anorexic highschool girl or like fat pig eating nothing but gigaprocessed goyslop daily
Just eat more meat and less goyslop, unless you want to be the biggest guy around it's really that simple.
les goyslop more meat, would i need to eat meat every day, its getting kind of expensive, how much meat would you recomend for a dyel 175lb
Height?
If you can afford it yes, I eat around 500g daily, more if I want to cut. Pork is very cheap here, maybe it's the same where you live but you'd have to check, I would still rather cut costs elsewhere and buy beef if I couldn't afford it.
Eggs are pretty cheap and a good source of protein, soft white cheeses/yoghurts are also pretty good, I like skyr. Whey protein is getting expensive but I'm pretty sure it's still the cheapest option.
>Height?
5'11, i think i can afford it, but only in reasonable amounts, im not going to be eating a mountain of steak every day.
That's ok, just make sure you also consume a lot of milk, yoghurt (not the sugary goyslop kind), cheese and eggs.
Also legumes, animal protein is better but some legumes are delicious and a good source of macros (for a plant)
>a lot of milk
unironically down lke 4 cups a day kek
historically most people couldnt afford meat every day either. I think lamb was very popular in Greece though.
This is half true. Fish was dirt cheap but poor people weren't eating steaks daily.
combat training is nothing but compound exercises, you use the entire body for just about any strike and you had to be able to run to both reposition and if you didnt want to die in a rout.
this wasnt true in 1970 when obesity was very low across the western world. doesnt hold up. now lets hear the cope
that's also when high fructose corn syrup replaced sugar and when it became very, very cheap to produce sweet and addictive foods
broadly speaking Greek society thought manual labour was beneath them and had slaves do all the menial work for them. Aristotle famously wrote about some grave misconceptions about the phyicality of life and work because he was so disconnected from it all, lol.
Greek warriors spent a lot of time training and greek citizens were expected to be ready for war. They would also have ready access to meat and hunt for training. They just lived a hard lifestyle with plenty of physical exercise because not doing so meant your city state could get wiped from the map.
>300bc
>meds living as hunter gatherers
Take a history lesson
Dude, it's 300bc, not 30000bc
If you needed something you went and bought it, people weren't running around hunting you absolute moron
Literally just physical activity. Before I hit 18 I had muscles and looked ottermode simply from playing soccer and doing pushups and situps in practice.
fasting is important
>nothing but bread
They had meat, fish and dairy yknow...
famously, it was the Egyptians who ate a ton of bread and there's some of the oldest statues of fat people in the world found in Egypt. I think today IST will still classify that more as skinnyfat since they were still far away from obese.
that wiener makes me feel better about myself 🙂
>t. moron who thinks his "chub" is his flaccid penis size
Idk what that means but seethr harder I guess
Consistent work. Most people don't do much physical these days
no microplastics
clean water
no goyslop
this
also every day they were doing physical activity pretty much all day, not 1 hour 3 days a week.
They were 5 foot tall
>low bodyfat and consistent exercise
thats all you need, diet is unironically a meme unless you want to be a bodybuilder
I go to the gym 5 days a week for at least an hour and a half and i work out various muscle groups+cardio, i just started doing that and im 18, should i be fine doing just that without worrying about diet too much, so long as i dont too much goyfeed.
These homies probably had 1k test at a minimum, the upper classes with the best diets anyway
https://smarthistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mars-870x1207.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Ludovisi_Gaul_Altemps_Inv8608.jpg
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/936a30_cb9600a2cb4446d599ca5f8e367ca94f~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_560,h_422,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/IMG_3069.jpg
These statues plus the Riace Bronzes are lifefuel to me. The heracles statues draws all the fit adoration, but these realistic depictions of ancient warriors are attainable for healthy men. Roiding to look like the farnese hercules is quite literally ὕβρις, hubris, an outrageous overreach against the natural order which of course is met with an unavoidable punishment from the gods in the form of an inglorious early death.
for me, it's OP's set of statues, as well as this
Based classical body appreciator. These are also my body goals.
I'm trying to get there by being an all rounder. Calisthenics, weights, kettlebell, running and hiking. I'm thinking of starting boxing soon to pankrationmaxx
This physique was the body of a God. The ideal. It was to portray the near impossible but those demigods of men. Also it doesnt look nearly as good when painted.
did the demigods look like that
there is some funny irony in that people taking photos of these aesthetic statues are lighting-maxxing and angle-maxxing just as much as bodybuilders taking pics of our own bodies.
We have detailed info about their diet (athletes and warriors diet in Athen). They ate cheese, eggs, meat, and also bread, fruit, every day.
They didn't just eat wheat products, they got their protein
can someone tell me the appeal of putting little shrimp dicks on statues like that? it's by far the least redeeming quality of them
the TLDR is that having a small penis is a sign of having good selfcontrol, discipline, not letting lust consume you, while having a big penis is the opposite - you're a brute consumed by lust and debauchery without discipline.
yikes
Sounds like small dick cope. Even the ancients were insecure about wiener size so much that they had to make whole ideologies around it.
Small dick is more aesthetic
>I d-don't have a small penis, I'm just.... CULTURED!!!
kek
Are you gay?
>sees statue
>immediately notices dick size
Average ISTizen
>Modern human flabbergasted at the concept of a society where man was judged by more than his dick size
I can’t rightly blame you, “muh dick” is a pretty pervasive mind virus, nobody’s safe from exposure and few are immune.
Maybe they were truly cultured and didn't focus so much on irrelevant details. Also, they had Black slaves, not Black idols like Americans of today.
>artists and craftsmen never idealized the human form before the internet
THREE HUNDRED BBC?
1. most people didn't achieve these physiques
2. anyone who did achieve this physique was rich and not a common laborer or farmer
3. if you were rich you had lots of access to meat and protein
>bread
Ayo? They was blacks n'shit? We wuz greeks fosho
uncut dick strength
a whole time working out
they didn't eat bread a lot.
they mainly ate raw meat and drank raw milk.
meme
>According to ancient sources, Milo of Croton's diet consisted of a whopping twenty pounds of bread, another twenty pounds of meat, and eighteen pints of wine a day. One ancient story about the athlete says that he once carried a bull around the stadium at Olympia, killed it with a single punch, and then ate it.
No sugar. Simple
you people all failed history
Carbs and lots of cardio through manual labor keeps your body fat low.
That might be true but this is not a depiction of a manual labourer.
What would be really interesting to see is a statue of a greek sailor who was actually on the oars
>nothing but bread
So...youve never read a page of homer
>virtually no avenues of convenience in life, work from when you wake up to shortly before you slept
>sleeping/waking with natural circadian rhythms
>no goyslop, no ultra-refined seed oils, sugar is a luxury if it isn't naturally in foods, no artificial substitutes/fillers, etc.
also
>implying everyone had this physique
there were probably more people malnourished than sculpted like this. we've traded malnourishment for obesity and it's the same trap with different bait
they did not have refined sugar period. all sugar that they had was natural, eg in fruits which has the adequate fiber to let the sugar be processed
youre also right about how people looked. in the rural balkans for example people still follow a similar albeit worse diet with more processed food, but either way they are all healthy even if occasionally malnourished looking
>eating nothing but bread
Lol, lmao.
Aristocratic grekks trained nude in gymnasiums, you don't think they had access to an assortment of meats at will? Delusional.
Also, statues like this were made because this is what they thought GODS looked like. This doesn't represent the average 300bc greek slave.
Bread was poverty slave food back then, people ate animals and animal products.
> eating nothing but bread
stfu moron, farmers werent braindead
dairy, meat and fish was normal
I feel like people put all of their brainpower towards their diet and just stick to whatever physical program they get recommended. The average ancient people's lives were physically strenuous on the regular so their bodies had to adapt.
Why do you assume art is a 1:1 representation of reality? Is this one of those situations where sub 90 IQ Black folk cannot understand hypotheticals?
>nothing but bread
???
Also shitton of meat, milk, dairy products, olives and olive oil, absurd amounts of fish
All the things you need
I'm well aware that everyone in this thread is trolling, but the exaggerated iliac furrows on these statues or castings were apparently in vogue for that period.
If some fitizen posted a cbt pic like this today most people here would probably be asking about his hip tumors and skipping leg day.
EREKA!! IVE GOT IT.
If smal miccritears nake msyckes greo stringer then big teRs must make them lot strihger
They didn't have chemtrails back then lowering the testosterone of the population
They were all 5'3. Gains showed more easily
When we were cavemen do you think our wieners slapping around when we ran gave our position away?
I thought it was corn. They're always going on about how to get corn
Corn is a new world crop
I'm pretty f*ing sure that in Livy or Caesar's writings they were always talking about corn
corn is the latin word for grain
What you americans call "corn" is really maize. Corn refers to any grain.
No, they were writing about wheat.
Oh yay, a revisionist history thread circa 1960's.
What the frick? That's not bigger than mine. Is BBC a myth?
How the hell did they achieve these physiques in 1965 with nothing but burgers, is dieting that important?
What's your point? They conquered the greeks because they were more numerous and had better logistics and commanders, not because the Roman soldier had an ideal physique that we should aspire to. They were mogged one on one by barbarians, greeks and probably the mercs working for carthage. Their own auxilia probably mogged them.
It's like how 10 beautiful gravettian hunter gatherers were defeated by 150 pygymy farmBlack folk, which is analagous to rome vs greeks, as well as to ww2. Just the same old story.
I'd rather live free and die than be enslaved by globoromo 1.0
They were 4'11 100lbs