You will literally never, and I mean never, get a muscle “too big” as a natural, with the EXCEPTION of legs. Cue the picture of the ugly gymcel from YouTube with legs wider than shoulders who fricks his mom
You will literally never, and I mean never, get a muscle “too big” as a natural, with the EXCEPTION of legs. Cue the picture of the ugly gymcel from YouTube with legs wider than shoulders who fricks his mom
https://i.imgur.com/cAYIFWV.jpg
how to avoid getting chest like on left and get chest aesthetics like on right?
I think the difference in the boobs on the left and the pecs on the right is more to do with genetics and exercise selection that with roids and body fat percentage.
I guess bodybuilders in the silver era didn't do much bench press, but instead focused on exercises you could perform with dumbbells, like dumbbell flys
Also regardless of how lean you are, some people's pecs attach differently, giving them that saggy boob look
It's just insertions here, compare where the outer pec attaches to the shoulder. On the left they have massive gaps because of subhuman insertions. All the popular modern bodybuilders like Connor Murphy and Zyzz had wide pec insertions
The look on the left is muscle + 14-16#% bf. The look on the right is muscle + 11-12% bf. Lost fat and you’ll never get the left look. Naturals can barely even get 3d pecs
Nah it's years of drug abuse and stupid high carb diet. It's insane to me that he's considered some sort of fitness guru. He is just a less likeable Derek who throws dodgy studies in your face in substitute of having actual wisdom and knowledge.
Nippard is a top tier grifter. He doesn’t even read half the studies he cites, because many of them actually contradict the point he’s trying to make. But he knows none of his viewers will read them either. They just hear his nasally voice talk about “science-based lifting” and assume he’s some super genius. The truth is, he’s 5’3 and roids like crazy.
Nippard is a top tier grifter. He doesn’t even read half the studies he cites, because many of them actually contradict the point he’s trying to make. But he knows none of his viewers will read them either. They just hear his nasally voice talk about “science-based lifting” and assume he’s some super genius. The truth is, he’s 5’3 and roids like crazy.
None of them read the studies. At best the read the summary or abstract. It's especially bad with Derek as midwits treat him as an authority on peds, so every other influencer parrots shit like "yk11 is a dht derivative" when it's no such thing, and was just from derek misreading a sentence in a study
I disagree. I was obsessed with doing incline 10+ years ago because I thought I had gyno (really i was just fat) and I heard that "spamming" incline fixes it. Well my chest definitely got too big and its still kind of a problem for me but not as much since I legitimately just stopped training chest. I can still bench lmao2pl8 for like 6-8 reps even though I genuinely havent had chest exercises in my routine for the last 3 years or so.
Chest just isnt aestethic imo. A flat chest looks way better.
it is kind of sad that Mike Israel really had to take steroids for years and slave away in the gym whilst getting a degree in the field only to look worse than your average dude his age who doesn't even work out. absolutely abysmal.
Does growth hormones make older men feel much younger or something?
The nose and belly enlargement doesn’t seem worth it if it’s just to get more muscles.
What is it with zoomers and making image macros to be read right to left? I'm noticing this more and more and it's confusing. Are western schools so full of muslims these days you only practice reading with the Quran?
damn, the bald guy is the one I see in a bunch of reels recently, fricking hate fitness advice youtubers they're all like "stop washing your penis", "stop eating tomatoes", "your doing everything wrong", hate those gays good to know they're small midgets who physically cannot be bigger than me therefore cannot give me fitness advice
that blond guy makes me want to kms since I'm only half an i ch taller (5'5.5"). There's no fricking way I look that short. I fricking had the money for the LL surgeries at 25 to be 5'10"-5'11" and would have had enough for my arms too.
FUUUUCK I FRICKED UP
FRICK YOU, GOD
I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU, YOU STUPID SATANIC b***h
FRICK YOU *spits in god's face* *b***h slaps god* FRICK YOU, moron
It’s not god it’s your past karma, written all over your temporary vessel. God is good and true. Your shortcomings (no pun intended ;)) are your own and not his.
False. You don't look like a middle schooler so you didn't get mind fricked by it. That in itself is a plus. Suicide rates are also higher among short males.
Get surgeries to make yourself shorter and you'll see how hellish it is. You'd end up jumping off a bridge.
thanks, It's getting better with treatment but not too long ago I would meet god on the toilet every day. it's a weird feeling.
I was a natty lifter and since I've been on prednisone I've had muscle wastage so my glacial progress has been erased 🙁 but I'm happy not to be lifting with arthritis in my shoulders and knees.
its fun now
False. You don't look like a middle schooler so you didn't get mind fricked by it. That in itself is a plus. Suicide rates are also higher among short males.
Get surgeries to make yourself shorter and you'll see how hellish it is. You'd end up jumping off a bridge.
lol crohns ain't shit compared to being a deformed midget
the point I was trying to articulate was that your pain is 100% self-imposed. I don't want totally discount the way people treat you but unless your 5 foot flat I can't imagine people being overly mean to you. I mean is your spirit smaller than mine?
so why are you so beat up? you still can work, play, enjoy things and build a life. I've lost the last 2 years of my life to an extremely painful and exhausting illness and will be on expensive immuno-suppressant drugs for the rest of my life that make public transportation a risky endeavour but I won't let that stop me.
you gotta love yourself anon, you have a lot to offer the world and more importantly yourself and most importantly god. just because people not giving you the respect that feel you deserve doesn't have to ruin your life.
its almost narcissistic of you. why do you care what some deprecating piece of ass thinks or the way people look at you in the gym? that wasn't a rhetorical question, why.
serving god will help you immensely. I promise. both serving and god will help you immensely.
I hope you heal anon, my body is healing but I feel it made my spirt stronger and for that, I am honestly grateful.
>the point I was trying to articulate was that your pain is 100% self-imposed.
moron alert. Our brains are prewired to be dominant. If your short, your brain tells you "you have trash genes". It's not in your control just as being depressed over say having a kid die is not in your control. You're a complete idiot for thinking your pain is even comparable to mine
Also when your brain acknowledges that your genes are shit, it makes you suicidal hence why short males have higher suicide rates. It's a weak link genetic dead end trait.
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>the point I was trying to articulate was that your pain is 100% self-imposed.
moron alert. Our brains are prewired to be dominant. If your short, your brain tells you "you have trash genes". It's not in your control just as being depressed over say having a kid die is not in your control. You're a complete idiot for thinking your pain is even comparable to mine
you're*
also, prove it. that's literally not how anything works, your brain is not independent of your body and has zero innate concept of genetics. your active consciousness might use your short stature to beat it self up over but I have news for you, its an illusion. if it wasn't height it would be something else. you need therapy or real introspection and healing.
you are just insecure, it's not pain. the pain comes from somewhere else
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>you're
ya, Ik. I didn't feel like correcting it >also, prove it.
Use your head. By your logic psychological torture isn't real LMAO. If someone were to put a grenade in your mother's mouth and made you watch her head explode, the ONLY way you won't feel shit is if you're a full blown sociopath, but by your logic that pain is "self-imposed" because it's not physical. LOL
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also you're downplaying all psychological pain. So for instance if a father loses his son in a car accident or whatever, that mental hell "is all in your head! It's not real!". Fricking moronic LOL
That's like saying you should be thankful if you get cut in half with a chainsaw for being "alive in the first place". Life isn't worth it if it's just non-stop torture, clown. And if I rope what then? I burn for an eternity. Ya, what a nice fricking god LOL
also muscle/power/height isn't vanity, you dumbass. It has literal usage in the real world and asserts dominance against potential threats. That's like saying a gun for self-defense is vanity. You're moronic
Did the devil make us obsessed with vanity? Or is it the natural state of a sexually dimorphous species that only continues to exist due to the pleasure derived from reproduction? Does the devil make a peawiener show off its plumage in its mating dance? Does the devil make humans want to attract a mate?
literally just camera angle bro.
The guys on the right are standing above focal frame, crotch is dead center hwile the guys on the left have the camera at chest level.
Both have slight above lighting, so the lighting reflects the upper portion of their pec equally, but since we are seeing guys on the right from below, the bottom shadowing of their pecs is more prevalent.
The advancement speaks to the increased understanding enabling a person to get to previously unthinkable feats of strength regardless of where they started. They're also not, form what I can tell, body builders of notoriety after having prepped for a competition and practiced their posing.
Bf%.
You will literally never, and I mean never, get a muscle “too big” as a natural, with the EXCEPTION of legs. Cue the picture of the ugly gymcel from YouTube with legs wider than shoulders who fricks his mom
you have point but my question is not about legs or shoulders, it is about chest
He literally gave you the answer. You won't get a muscle that's too big as a natural.
I think the difference in the boobs on the left and the pecs on the right is more to do with genetics and exercise selection that with roids and body fat percentage.
I guess bodybuilders in the silver era didn't do much bench press, but instead focused on exercises you could perform with dumbbells, like dumbbell flys
Also regardless of how lean you are, some people's pecs attach differently, giving them that saggy boob look
It's just insertions here, compare where the outer pec attaches to the shoulder. On the left they have massive gaps because of subhuman insertions. All the popular modern bodybuilders like Connor Murphy and Zyzz had wide pec insertions
The look on the left is muscle + 14-16#% bf. The look on the right is muscle + 11-12% bf. Lost fat and you’ll never get the left look. Naturals can barely even get 3d pecs
Nah it's years of drug abuse and stupid high carb diet. It's insane to me that he's considered some sort of fitness guru. He is just a less likeable Derek who throws dodgy studies in your face in substitute of having actual wisdom and knowledge.
Nippard is a top tier grifter. He doesn’t even read half the studies he cites, because many of them actually contradict the point he’s trying to make. But he knows none of his viewers will read them either. They just hear his nasally voice talk about “science-based lifting” and assume he’s some super genius. The truth is, he’s 5’3 and roids like crazy.
None of them read the studies. At best the read the summary or abstract. It's especially bad with Derek as midwits treat him as an authority on peds, so every other influencer parrots shit like "yk11 is a dht derivative" when it's no such thing, and was just from derek misreading a sentence in a study
are you fricking moronic? Be literally answered that. You need to be spoonfed that much?
>t. 1 plate bencher who doesn’t squat because he doesn’t want his legs to get too “bulky”
I disagree. I was obsessed with doing incline 10+ years ago because I thought I had gyno (really i was just fat) and I heard that "spamming" incline fixes it. Well my chest definitely got too big and its still kind of a problem for me but not as much since I legitimately just stopped training chest. I can still bench lmao2pl8 for like 6-8 reps even though I genuinely havent had chest exercises in my routine for the last 3 years or so.
Chest just isnt aestethic imo. A flat chest looks way better.
don't care homosexual nobody believes your e stating post body or frick off
Verification not required.
it is kind of sad that Mike Israel really had to take steroids for years and slave away in the gym whilst getting a degree in the field only to look worse than your average dude his age who doesn't even work out. absolutely abysmal.
He’s like 5’2 he was doomed regardless
He's 5'6". Still doomed
dat israelite genetics
Does growth hormones make older men feel much younger or something?
The nose and belly enlargement doesn’t seem worth it if it’s just to get more muscles.
They have fricked up joints from all the moronic acience based volume they dom so they kinda have no choice
Genetics. I’m sorry to say, but those hyper aesthetic muscles on the right are 99% genetic.
1. don't be significantly below average height
2. don't roid
3. have decent proportions / insertions
Is it international midge day today?
source on the right pic?
Reg Park and Steve Reeves at the 1950 Mr. Universe
the guys on the left are turbo manlets, literally like 5'5
choose your parents wisely
What is it with zoomers and making image macros to be read right to left? I'm noticing this more and more and it's confusing. Are western schools so full of muslims these days you only practice reading with the Quran?
It's because of manga.
aren't those 2 on the left literal manlets kek?
id take being lanky and tall over short and muscular in every single lifetime
How ever you gotta cope
top fricking zozzle
And despite that he has a cute fiance, he made it
shes ugly as frick, jeff. btw ur not even 5'5 either.
He got literally cucked by the gymshark dude
damn, the bald guy is the one I see in a bunch of reels recently, fricking hate fitness advice youtubers they're all like "stop washing your penis", "stop eating tomatoes", "your doing everything wrong", hate those gays good to know they're small midgets who physically cannot be bigger than me therefore cannot give me fitness advice
Insertions x Size.
Kek
What's funny about what I said?
It was so absurdly American.
How can we breed a race of manlets that are 4 feet tall, have 3 foot long arms, and store 60 lbs of fat in their guts?
And can grow long beards and also hold hammers
People on the right did standing presses(overhead)
People on the left spammed bench press
Lol no. Reeves and Park did a ton of flat benching and ohp was Israetels pet lift for years and he got up to 405lbs or something with it.
that blond guy makes me want to kms since I'm only half an i ch taller (5'5.5"). There's no fricking way I look that short. I fricking had the money for the LL surgeries at 25 to be 5'10"-5'11" and would have had enough for my arms too.
FUUUUCK I FRICKED UP
FRICK YOU, GOD
I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU, YOU STUPID SATANIC b***h
FRICK YOU *spits in god's face* *b***h slaps god* FRICK YOU, moron
It’s not god it’s your past karma, written all over your temporary vessel. God is good and true. Your shortcomings (no pun intended ;)) are your own and not his.
>It’s not god it’s your past karma
Shut the frick up, street shitter
dude calm down i'm 6'2 and it hasn't done me a thing.
its an arbitrary number you use to let the malicious parts of your personality attack you with.
I have fistulizing Crohn's, you don't want to trade places with me.
False. You don't look like a middle schooler so you didn't get mind fricked by it. That in itself is a plus. Suicide rates are also higher among short males.
Get surgeries to make yourself shorter and you'll see how hellish it is. You'd end up jumping off a bridge.
>You'd end up jumping off a bridge.
A sidewalk should be enough
Im sorry anon. All the best with the Crohns.
lol crohns ain't shit compared to being a deformed midget
thanks, It's getting better with treatment but not too long ago I would meet god on the toilet every day. it's a weird feeling.
I was a natty lifter and since I've been on prednisone I've had muscle wastage so my glacial progress has been erased 🙁 but I'm happy not to be lifting with arthritis in my shoulders and knees.
its fun now
the point I was trying to articulate was that your pain is 100% self-imposed. I don't want totally discount the way people treat you but unless your 5 foot flat I can't imagine people being overly mean to you. I mean is your spirit smaller than mine?
so why are you so beat up? you still can work, play, enjoy things and build a life. I've lost the last 2 years of my life to an extremely painful and exhausting illness and will be on expensive immuno-suppressant drugs for the rest of my life that make public transportation a risky endeavour but I won't let that stop me.
you gotta love yourself anon, you have a lot to offer the world and more importantly yourself and most importantly god. just because people not giving you the respect that feel you deserve doesn't have to ruin your life.
its almost narcissistic of you. why do you care what some deprecating piece of ass thinks or the way people look at you in the gym? that wasn't a rhetorical question, why.
serving god will help you immensely. I promise. both serving and god will help you immensely.
I hope you heal anon, my body is healing but I feel it made my spirt stronger and for that, I am honestly grateful.
>the point I was trying to articulate was that your pain is 100% self-imposed.
moron alert. Our brains are prewired to be dominant. If your short, your brain tells you "you have trash genes". It's not in your control just as being depressed over say having a kid die is not in your control. You're a complete idiot for thinking your pain is even comparable to mine
Also when your brain acknowledges that your genes are shit, it makes you suicidal hence why short males have higher suicide rates. It's a weak link genetic dead end trait.
you're*
also, prove it. that's literally not how anything works, your brain is not independent of your body and has zero innate concept of genetics. your active consciousness might use your short stature to beat it self up over but I have news for you, its an illusion. if it wasn't height it would be something else. you need therapy or real introspection and healing.
you are just insecure, it's not pain. the pain comes from somewhere else
>you're
ya, Ik. I didn't feel like correcting it
>also, prove it.
Use your head. By your logic psychological torture isn't real LMAO. If someone were to put a grenade in your mother's mouth and made you watch her head explode, the ONLY way you won't feel shit is if you're a full blown sociopath, but by your logic that pain is "self-imposed" because it's not physical. LOL
also you're downplaying all psychological pain. So for instance if a father loses his son in a car accident or whatever, that mental hell "is all in your head! It's not real!". Fricking moronic LOL
Youre lucky God gave us life at all man, stop being a blasphemous moron. Be mad at satan for convincing us to be so obsessed with vanity
That's like saying you should be thankful if you get cut in half with a chainsaw for being "alive in the first place". Life isn't worth it if it's just non-stop torture, clown. And if I rope what then? I burn for an eternity. Ya, what a nice fricking god LOL
also muscle/power/height isn't vanity, you dumbass. It has literal usage in the real world and asserts dominance against potential threats. That's like saying a gun for self-defense is vanity. You're moronic
hope you get cancer you untermensch israelite
Did the devil make us obsessed with vanity? Or is it the natural state of a sexually dimorphous species that only continues to exist due to the pleasure derived from reproduction? Does the devil make a peawiener show off its plumage in its mating dance? Does the devil make humans want to attract a mate?
>t.christisraelite
literally just camera angle bro.
The guys on the right are standing above focal frame, crotch is dead center hwile the guys on the left have the camera at chest level.
Both have slight above lighting, so the lighting reflects the upper portion of their pec equally, but since we are seeing guys on the right from below, the bottom shadowing of their pecs is more prevalent.
It's genetic.
The advancement speaks to the increased understanding enabling a person to get to previously unthinkable feats of strength regardless of where they started. They're also not, form what I can tell, body builders of notoriety after having prepped for a competition and practiced their posing.
muscle insertions
More flys, less presses
I though the exercise science meme guy was taller than Jeff Nipple
Don't take HGH
Simple. Don't pin test.
reeves was on test tho
With a body like that? I seriously doubt it.