brother, do NOT try oly lifting just from watching guides and shit. oly lifting is snap city 100% guaranteed if you frick up a little.
yes i know these hot girls with big breasts are doing it here but >they've been trained >lmao 1pl8
dude professionals regularly frick themselves up doing this, a lifetime of spine and shoulder damage isn't worth a couple hundred saved on a trainer.
they are a wast of time too, just don't do them lol
Literally just watch videos, try to model yourself off someone like Torokhtiy, Kuo or Sincraian and implement the technique. Doing lots of variations, especially hang and power versions will be helpful. Try to make sure you understand the purpose of everything you're doing.
There's a good chance you'll need to build up your mobility in the process.
Also, don't listen to this crab
He's completely clueless, and just spouting shit because he's too moronic to learn himself.
Bullshit, you have no idea what you're talking about. I have fricked up bigly in the snatch, clean and jerk so many times, and have never sustained an injury.
I’ve definitely fricked up big time Olympic lifting. I lost my balance reracking a 120kg jerk double, I fell backwards with the bar landing into a floor press position. Took me about 8 months to get the mobility back to snatch after the double scaphoid fracture. I just did the smolov programme with casts on my hand.
I’ve also failed a few cleans with straps that messed up my wrists (distal instability).
Something is always hurting. Right now my shoulder hurts in a really weird way, but once I’m warmed up I just ignore it. Occasionally knees hurt.
You absolutely can get seriously injured, you can just loose your balance or fail to lock out at the wrong moment and the bar will fall on you.
Sounds like you got injured from reracking the bar. You know what other types of exercises require one to rerack the bar?
Also >Cleans with straps
You're just asking for it.
There's vids of people paralyzing themselves when doing snatches.
Oly is just a step below crossfit in terms of how fricking stupid and counter productive it is to perform for the average person.
With the exception of elite athletes, if you learn how to do the lifts properly and how to bail properly, and as longs as you're not moronic, that won't happen.
My point still stands.
> Sounds like you got injured from reracking the bar.
Yeah but being able to reracking is kinda useful. I just pushed myself too far. I don’t rerack things above 90% now. > cleans with straps
I was asking for it.
>With the exception of elite athletes, if you learn how to do the lifts properly and how to bail properly, and as longs as you're not moronic, that won't happen.
You can literally say the same about crossfit, dummy.
Oly and crossfit, except at the elite level, are just dyel activities with high risk and low reward.
There's vids of people paralyzing themselves when doing snatches.
Oly is just a step below crossfit in terms of how fricking stupid and counter productive it is to perform for the average person.
>paralyzing themselves when doing snatches
https://abcnews.go.com/US/crossfit-athletes-paralyzing-injury-renews-concerns-popular-sport/story?id=21555690
Guy passed through the bar of a 100kg snatch, then fell backwards on the bar breaking his back. Gypsy curse level of freak accident to be honest.
> Oly is for dyels.
Why do people think this? At normal gyms people think I’m some sort of lifting god snatching 120kg (despite it being firmly intermediate).
First of all, ignore this moron . Second, there are classes for this?
How I learned it: Watch some videos and try. I already knew the technique, but I recently tried Torokhtiys 13 Week program and stayed with it for around 6-7 weeks. Was fun and it is great for beginners. Other than that, start out with powerclean, powersnatch/musclesnatch, jerk and frontsquats. The rest will come along.
Start with the bar. Go as heavy as you can to where you keep good technique.
An empty bar can be used for snatch, for the rest it is just not a good idea. A loaded bar can get you in positions you werent able to reach before. And you CANNOT clean an empty bar.
https://i.imgur.com/hQSTxgY.jpg
Olympic lifters keep oly lifting classes gyms with weightlifting platforms. Much cheaper than private coaching. IMO you can milk 70% of benefits from snatch and clean and press with kettlebell variation with minimal risk of injury.
Those are also good fundamentals. KB swings is good in understanding the hip drive in the clean.
Oly is for dyels.
This.
Klokov has a permanently fricked hip from oly.
[...] >posts a roidtroony
So you compare yourself to Klokov? Post body, lol.
t. implementing OLY lifts into my workout routine for 10years
An empty bar can absolutely be used for jerks. Also, it's helpful to use an empty bar to see what the positions feel like. Plenty of olympians start their warm up for cleans with the bar.
unironically real, if you get actually strong catching 4plmao at the bottom of a clean can absolutely destroy the ligaments in your knees.
I do like power snatches tho
Olympic lifters keep oly lifting classes gyms with weightlifting platforms. Much cheaper than private coaching. IMO you can milk 70% of benefits from snatch and clean and press with kettlebell variation with minimal risk of injury.
>How to learn oly lifting?
but anon, why? u do realize oly-lifting is strongman type gimmicks that wound up into lolympics because reasons
there is nothing, and i mean it seriously, NOTHING u can do with straight bar that ain't wrong from anatomical standpoint? maybe landmine row or one handed press of sort, but if u grab it like it's made the only reasonable thing to do is to drop it
right bot? that bot that gives only really bad advice, that bot that makes this subreddit, am i right or am i genious?
>how to learn olympic lifting
ok if you really want to learn it without paying, here's the drill: >Start doing overhead press. Once you're confident doing this for 40 or so KG, learn how to do a push press. Spend a lot of time just perfecting this. Focus on quick extension, and throwing/catching the bar. Don't throw it from the fingers under the bar position, that's a moronic thing to do and how rookies snap themselves. Just take a proper grip and relax your hands a tiny bit. >Whenever you OHP and gas out, do push press until you gas out, except do the full negative.
In the mean time, work on your ankle and wrist mobility. Keep doing drills and stretches until you're confident doing front squats with the bar in a racked position. Just focus on lifting your elbows up as high as you can.
When you feel like a master of these, try to put the pieces together. Front squat into push press.
Every single thing you do, you should be able to do it just as perfectly with a 5kg training bar as you can with a loaded barbell.
Once you feel like these are perfect, then start doing long pull cleans, and gradually transition into regular cleans.
You can do all of this in snatch grip as well to learn that too. Just remember you should externally rotate your shoulders. You're not using your muscles to lift this weight. You're using your muscles to create a load-bearing structure out of your skeleton, and that bears weight.
Really, the big one is just be patient. Record your lifts. Watch lots of videos of other athletes doing them, and watch for what do they right/wrong.
first completely forget how to deadlift. One you start oly lifting you will never do another deadlift in your life. The most important thing in Olympic lifting is the start position, it looks like a deadlift but it isn’t.
I love how nobody even bothers to even go over there since it's probably such a frequent occurrence at a crossfit gym. I think the guy also got paralyzed from his or something.
brother, do NOT try oly lifting just from watching guides and shit. oly lifting is snap city 100% guaranteed if you frick up a little.
yes i know these hot girls with big breasts are doing it here but
>they've been trained
>lmao 1pl8
dude professionals regularly frick themselves up doing this, a lifetime of spine and shoulder damage isn't worth a couple hundred saved on a trainer.
they are a wast of time too, just don't do them lol
Literally just watch videos, try to model yourself off someone like Torokhtiy, Kuo or Sincraian and implement the technique. Doing lots of variations, especially hang and power versions will be helpful. Try to make sure you understand the purpose of everything you're doing.
There's a good chance you'll need to build up your mobility in the process.
Also, don't listen to this crab
He's completely clueless, and just spouting shit because he's too moronic to learn himself.
How light show I go when do that?
Bar only
Start with the bar. Go as heavy as you can to where you keep good technique.
Okay, thank you
>oly lifting is snap city 100% guaranteed if you frick up a little.
Bullshit. You can muscle through these movements.
Bullshit, you have no idea what you're talking about. I have fricked up bigly in the snatch, clean and jerk so many times, and have never sustained an injury.
I’ve definitely fricked up big time Olympic lifting. I lost my balance reracking a 120kg jerk double, I fell backwards with the bar landing into a floor press position. Took me about 8 months to get the mobility back to snatch after the double scaphoid fracture. I just did the smolov programme with casts on my hand.
I’ve also failed a few cleans with straps that messed up my wrists (distal instability).
Something is always hurting. Right now my shoulder hurts in a really weird way, but once I’m warmed up I just ignore it. Occasionally knees hurt.
You absolutely can get seriously injured, you can just loose your balance or fail to lock out at the wrong moment and the bar will fall on you.
Sounds like you got injured from reracking the bar. You know what other types of exercises require one to rerack the bar?
Also
>Cleans with straps
You're just asking for it.
With the exception of elite athletes, if you learn how to do the lifts properly and how to bail properly, and as longs as you're not moronic, that won't happen.
My point still stands.
> Sounds like you got injured from reracking the bar.
Yeah but being able to reracking is kinda useful. I just pushed myself too far. I don’t rerack things above 90% now.
> cleans with straps
I was asking for it.
>With the exception of elite athletes, if you learn how to do the lifts properly and how to bail properly, and as longs as you're not moronic, that won't happen.
You can literally say the same about crossfit, dummy.
Oly and crossfit, except at the elite level, are just dyel activities with high risk and low reward.
>Weightlifting is a dyel activity
Post body
pic rel is the average oly body
>Talks shit
>Doesn't post body
Every time lmao
There's vids of people paralyzing themselves when doing snatches.
Oly is just a step below crossfit in terms of how fricking stupid and counter productive it is to perform for the average person.
>paralyzing themselves when doing snatches
https://abcnews.go.com/US/crossfit-athletes-paralyzing-injury-renews-concerns-popular-sport/story?id=21555690
Guy passed through the bar of a 100kg snatch, then fell backwards on the bar breaking his back. Gypsy curse level of freak accident to be honest.
Oly is for dyels.
This.
Klokov has a permanently fricked hip from oly.
>posts a roidtroony
> Oly is for dyels.
Why do people think this? At normal gyms people think I’m some sort of lifting god snatching 120kg (despite it being firmly intermediate).
>Why do people think this?
Because you look dyel.
>Paul Anderson
>roidtroony
Cope
>thinks thats not a roidtroony
you have watched enough russia-loving propaganda
>Paul Anderson
>russia-loving propaganda
Okay this is just bait
>olympic athlete
>not a roidtroon
Go eat more crayons
First of all, ignore this moron . Second, there are classes for this?
How I learned it: Watch some videos and try. I already knew the technique, but I recently tried Torokhtiys 13 Week program and stayed with it for around 6-7 weeks. Was fun and it is great for beginners. Other than that, start out with powerclean, powersnatch/musclesnatch, jerk and frontsquats. The rest will come along.
An empty bar can be used for snatch, for the rest it is just not a good idea. A loaded bar can get you in positions you werent able to reach before. And you CANNOT clean an empty bar.
Those are also good fundamentals. KB swings is good in understanding the hip drive in the clean.
So you compare yourself to Klokov? Post body, lol.
t. implementing OLY lifts into my workout routine for 10years
>(me): Klokov has a permanently fricked hip from oly
>this moron: So you compare yourself to Klokov?
Lmao learn to read Black person.
An empty bar can absolutely be used for jerks. Also, it's helpful to use an empty bar to see what the positions feel like. Plenty of olympians start their warm up for cleans with the bar.
unironically real, if you get actually strong catching 4plmao at the bottom of a clean can absolutely destroy the ligaments in your knees.
I do like power snatches tho
Wrong Giulia
bogged to the extent where it looks like an AI rendering, impressive
You gays have the wrong Giulia.
Washed up fraud
who's the bimbo on the left
Her girlfriend who groomed her to become this creature.
frick thats hot
Olympic lifters keep oly lifting classes gyms with weightlifting platforms. Much cheaper than private coaching. IMO you can milk 70% of benefits from snatch and clean and press with kettlebell variation with minimal risk of injury.
Kbs are homosexual
>How to learn oly lifting?
but anon, why? u do realize oly-lifting is strongman type gimmicks that wound up into lolympics because reasons
there is nothing, and i mean it seriously, NOTHING u can do with straight bar that ain't wrong from anatomical standpoint? maybe landmine row or one handed press of sort, but if u grab it like it's made the only reasonable thing to do is to drop it
right bot? that bot that gives only really bad advice, that bot that makes this subreddit, am i right or am i genious?
>how to learn olympic lifting
ok if you really want to learn it without paying, here's the drill:
>Start doing overhead press. Once you're confident doing this for 40 or so KG, learn how to do a push press. Spend a lot of time just perfecting this. Focus on quick extension, and throwing/catching the bar. Don't throw it from the fingers under the bar position, that's a moronic thing to do and how rookies snap themselves. Just take a proper grip and relax your hands a tiny bit.
>Whenever you OHP and gas out, do push press until you gas out, except do the full negative.
In the mean time, work on your ankle and wrist mobility. Keep doing drills and stretches until you're confident doing front squats with the bar in a racked position. Just focus on lifting your elbows up as high as you can.
When you feel like a master of these, try to put the pieces together. Front squat into push press.
Every single thing you do, you should be able to do it just as perfectly with a 5kg training bar as you can with a loaded barbell.
Once you feel like these are perfect, then start doing long pull cleans, and gradually transition into regular cleans.
You can do all of this in snatch grip as well to learn that too. Just remember you should externally rotate your shoulders. You're not using your muscles to lift this weight. You're using your muscles to create a load-bearing structure out of your skeleton, and that bears weight.
Really, the big one is just be patient. Record your lifts. Watch lots of videos of other athletes doing them, and watch for what do they right/wrong.
> externally rotate your shoulders
Except olycells, no one on this board will have any idea what this means.
People don’t even know how to squat right and this anon want to learn oly technique. Well good luck to you I guess.
>t. Someone who trained at an oly lifting gym for 4 years
It is a shame really, thankfully I know how to squat, and deadlift. And I do them as completely separate motions because I am not a moron
first completely forget how to deadlift. One you start oly lifting you will never do another deadlift in your life. The most important thing in Olympic lifting is the start position, it looks like a deadlift but it isn’t.
I wouldn't try oly lifting. Suboptimal for gainz.
why do all crossfit bros have the exact same shitty technique? It's not that it's just bad, they're all bad in the same way
I love how nobody even bothers to even go over there since it's probably such a frequent occurrence at a crossfit gym. I think the guy also got paralyzed from his or something.