This dude has good facial exercises. He died in a car crash about a decade ago though so there's no new videos coming out
https://www.youtube.com/@Josh7514/videos
https://i.imgur.com/7EqdCNq.png
>most masculine: highest "enemy" whilst also highest "sex" >less masculine faces lower "sex" but still long term partners
I am once again blackpilled
By a no source chart on an anime and titty appreciation board? C'mon dude. Get a hold of yourself
Women want to be raped but just won't admit it. I would post that screenshot of the women admitting their rapist made them the most wet they've ever been but that's a waste of time.
How old are you? You will lose the baby fat with age. DO NOT HAVE IT REMOVED. YOU WILL REGRET IT. Just take the L right now gay and ride it out till the collagen depletes naturally in your face, starting mid-20s to early 30s. Otherwise you will legit look like an AIDS ridden meth head cancer patient if you remove it by any cosmetic means. It will be 100% more harmonious if it fades naturally with age, than just carved out without any indication as to how it will look like underneath, or how it will drop with age.
Trust me gay, take the L for now and just know you're going to hit peak chadness in your 30-40-50s like most men are supposed to. You're not supposed to lose that shit right now.
the vast majority of men will never have hollow cheeks. at least not in the way they desire. low bf can only do so much. it's about having strong, high and sharp zygos ( cheekbones) which creates depth and shadow on your cheeks. hollow cheeks are noticeable even at higher bf when they are the result of strong bones.
it doesn't matter anyway, to look like gling normie guy next door ( which attracts a lot of women) you don't need any of that
Eh, you're somewhat right, but low bf does help a lot. I have pretty decent hollow cheeks at 10-12% body fat but once I bulk to 15% (like right now), I start looking like a fat baby.
>most masculine: highest "enemy" whilst also highest "sex"
For the majority of evolutionary history, marriage by abduction was, if not the norm, a possibility.
>soi
cence cuck justifying whore behavior
Pls have a nice day low t bitch
you're debating against the truth. it's literally in the OP's morph. increasing facial dimorphism directly increases zygo mass and angularity and a bigger zygomatic arch is linked to prenatal tes exposure. having sharp, pronounced zygos makes you both look more masculine and more beautiful. it's not a zero sum thing
I don't think women are more attracted to masculinity than to beauty btw. it's an age thing. but generally, you need both to slay. kpop singers are mostly desired by teenage girls btw
>muh random morph
Also you literally ignoring that the nose, chin and browridge became stronger too
If there was zygos or not it would have make no difference to his masculinity
What im saying that there is a difference between masculine and beautiful
Obviously you can combine both but its rare, most what people think is masculine is actually feminine
I'm not only basing it on the morph, also on studies done in the womb. zygos are a dimorphic trait, depending on placement and angularity. of course the chin, nose and browridge especially are also dimorphic, I never claimed otherwise
low/mid placed zygos that are wide and apple shaped are fem, high placed zygos that are sharp and angular and create a shadow on the cheeks are masc. that's why buccal fat removal is such a failo procedure for most women, it doesn't suit the placement and shape of their zygos and it looks off
yes, because it depends on the angularity/shape and placement. a girl with wide zygos is still fem if they're low set and apple shaped. that in itself makes it a dimorphic trait
Yeah, the chart explains so much of my dating life. I've always found it weird how I've had difficulty getting one night stands, but chicks always wanted to "husband" me.
Like I can fuck a chick after 3 dates or so, then I end up finding out that that the same girl had been pumped in a club bathroom by a guy who fits the "sex/enemy" category she'd known for like 10 minutes .
Are you me? This was particularly brutal when I got my first gf at 19. I simped so hard for her, and I finally got laid after like 3 weeks of non stop back and forth which felt like absolutely insane labour. Then she ends up fucking some guy in a closet at a house party 1 week after our breakup.
Whatever. Motivated me to start lifting and she literally begged me to nut in her mouth years later when she saw my insta posts. I felt nothing and just blocked her
I had an experience like this too in my bluepilled days. Tried super hard to date this really cute gas station cashier, but after a few weeks and only a few makeouts, I gave up when she said she exclusively wanted long term shit, "we need to hold off" blah blah.
Then my chad buddy asked if he can have a go, so I said sure why not. He got her number from the gym, then literally fucked her in the dirty truck stop bathroom stalls on their first hangout and nutted on her tits. Nothing motivated me to lift harder
I don't consider myself a Chad because that's a meme but my name is Chad and I've fucked virgins on the first date. Is it that unusual, girls like sex.
>I've fucked virgins on the first date
either they were lying or you look like brad pitt >Is it that unusual
yes
ugly people only fuck on a first date if 1. there's massive amounts of alcohol involved or 2. the girl is just a gigantic whore
2 months ago
Anonymous
I mean I'm no quite Brad Pitt but close enough, I've been told I look like a young Brad pitt lol
I've never had to get a girl drunk I just say bullshit and do whatever works
2 months ago
Anonymous
how tall are you
do random girls talk to you at bars/ask for your number
how often do girls touch your arms/chest/hips/belly
2 months ago
Anonymous
Like 5'6
I don't go to bars
All the time
Drinking age is 21 here that's way too old for me lol maybe when I'm 50 or some shit I'll have to fuck old women but nah
2 months ago
Anonymous
>21 >way too old for me
ah so just teenagers doing stupid teenager shit
things will get harder for you when you start having to compete with people over 5'9
you probably have a pretty attractive face, though
Are you me? This was particularly brutal when I got my first gf at 19. I simped so hard for her, and I finally got laid after like 3 weeks of non stop back and forth which felt like absolutely insane labour. Then she ends up fucking some guy in a closet at a house party 1 week after our breakup.
Whatever. Motivated me to start lifting and she literally begged me to nut in her mouth years later when she saw my insta posts. I felt nothing and just blocked her
I had an experience like this too in my bluepilled days. Tried super hard to date this really cute gas station cashier, but after a few weeks and only a few makeouts, I gave up when she said she exclusively wanted long term shit, "we need to hold off" blah blah.
Then my chad buddy asked if he can have a go, so I said sure why not. He got her number from the gym, then literally fucked her in the dirty truck stop bathroom stalls on their first hangout and nutted on her tits. Nothing motivated me to lift harder
I have those "hunter eyes". I look so intimidating when I take pictures of myself. Is this what girls want to see? Sometimes I try make a happier face when I take pictures
depends, small eyes =/= hunter eyes. even if you have legit hunter eyes it only works if the rest of your face is attractive as well. otherwise you will be seen as a tryhard uggo
I look like donte from the DmC remake. Just wondering if I should do the normal le hunter eyes or try be more neutral in my facial expression. Cause girls are hella weird sometimes in what they like.
more definition and sharpness in the zygos, creating a more hollow cheeks effect. they pop slightly more. 2 and 3 are far above average anyway, so the difference is minor
Yeah I guess I can see it now but it's such a minute difference. Also I notice now that the chin on 2 looks more square/protruding like a hoof frontwards as opposed to 3.
But honestly do women even notice these minuscule details? I don't think so. I think basically once you're above 4, and I believe even 4 can make it, you're good to go.
when was the last time you've actually seen someone with such pronounced zygos that they pop irl and create hollow cheeks at normal bf?
such pronounced bone structure is like less than 1% I think. so nope, women would maybe notice a slight difference in masculinity in 2 and 3, but to think that would translate into a meaningful difference in attraction is madness imo. the whole scale is an exercise in futility
I live in an area with a lot of meth heads. Fairly often. For some reason it's always white dudes who are also lanklets (height) and they seem like they could have been chad if they just put on some muscle mass, but they take drugs and cardiomaxx I guess.
At regular body fat though...I mean I saw a football player guy recently that had such strong, like it looked like apples on his cheeks, really round, high up cheeks, he wasn't too lean but in shape. But yeah he looked really chad-ish in face shape. It's that guy.
hakimi has very good bone structure. a lot of mass in his zygos, but they're middle set not high set. in 3/4 view, ideal male cheekbones should have a noticeable ogee curve and sit very high, almost straight under the eye socket. like the 5th/4th picture in the OP and like this but a little higher
in any case, most men will never look like this and that's okay. you don't have to be 99th percentile to score a normal girl, despite what some lookism autists claim
2 months ago
Anonymous
Damn imagine waking up like this and walking around just chilling. Can't even imagine
2 months ago
Anonymous
that dude looks overly cartoonish. not good.
2 months ago
Anonymous
that's big cope brother
2 months ago
Anonymous
no it's not cope. he looks like a korean tried to draw Leon Kennedy from the RE games but overdid it. also he has exceptional eye area and phenomenal hair but his jawline and lips are nothing special.
he is good, but he's no Hernan Drago
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Hernan Drago
that guy is ubermasc and has insane bone mass but is not as aesthetic. I think the prime high class slayer has more elegance in his features. like Alain Delon in his prime and Lachowski. while guys like Drago are more intimidating and masc. but it's a cultural thing as well I think
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I think the prime high class slayer has more elegance in his features. like Alain Delon in his prime and Lachowski. while guys like Drago are more intimidating and masc. but it's a cultural thing as well I think
please refer to the chart
https://i.imgur.com/Sj9XP1s.jpg
how to quickly get out of a food coma? even small meals with 0 carbs make me tired
you think prettyboys are better because you're a man and you're more attracted to soft features naturally. hernan drago is more intimidating but that's why he's the ultimate slayer. no girl would want to marry him because they'd be too insecure, but every girl would love to bear his children
2 months ago
Anonymous
fair point, but the guy in the picture isn't a prettyboy, neither is Delon or O'pry. Lachowksi yes, but even he has more masculine bone development than most men. (The average man is a boneless sack of potatoes, neither masc or fem)
so while they both have aesthetics and masculinity in spades, in the end it comes down to what women value more, in a bigger quantity: masculinity or aesthetics. I think younger women aesthetics, while to 22/23+ y/o women masculinity is more important ( provided you have aesthetics as well of course)
2 months ago
Anonymous
delon is 5/10 on masculinity scale, 11/10 in aesthetics. women estrogen shoot up at 18 btw, take as u will.
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah I agree, but I think Delon is more than average on the masc scale. strong and long ramus, good gonial angle, high and sharp cheekbones,hollow cheeks, low brows. that all screams test, but not in the same way as ubermasc slayers ofc
2 months ago
Anonymous
just bony, not above avg masculinity. dude handsome af tho lmfao
2 months ago
Anonymous
jesus
2 months ago
Anonymous
that shot/scene is too flattering, he looks a lot more boyish and Zac Efron-esque in the rest of the movie
2 months ago
Anonymous
not above average masculinity. >cheekbones wider than jaw >soft skin >blue eyes
2 months ago
Anonymous
skin and eye color mean fuckall. he just isnt very masculine. and nothing wrong with that, like look at the mf
2 months ago
Anonymous
skin and eye color mean fuckall. he just isnt very masculine. and nothing wrong with that, like look at the mf
also i have noticed people think bone mass=masculinity. its rather neoteny thing not masculinity.
2 months ago
Anonymous
big bone mass in some facial features does=masculinity
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah in lower third and brow/eyes obviously but its about relativity. non masculine bone ratio+bone mass is pretty common. jonny depp for example, just as you can have high masculinity with low bone mass+masculine ratio.
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah in lower third and brow/eyes obviously but its about relativity. non masculine bone ratio+bone mass is pretty common. jonny depp for example, just as you can have high masculinity with low bone mass+masculine ratio.
or his ex wife, alot bone mass but really feminine looking.
2 months ago
Anonymous
how many average men have cheekbones that sit so high and prominently that it creates hollow cheeks at normal bf?
2 months ago
Anonymous
cheeks that are just a bit hollow aren't masculine
He look like a feminine cuck
What are you about
you're blind
2 months ago
Anonymous
No
He is just is
you dumb moron, masculinity is a big part of what makes a man beautiful. prenatal test influences the placement and width of the zygomatic arch for example. if it's high and noticeable in daylight you already have above average masculine facial development
Being beautiful is for cucks
Men should strive to be masculine warriors
Not gay models who take it in the ass
But you all low t bitches anyway
Girls want feminine cucks that can get control and dominate
Appealing to them is being a cuck
2 months ago
Anonymous
He look like a feminine cuck
What are you about
2 months ago
Anonymous
because you associate beauty with feminity. the average man is a boneless pudgy fucker with barely any sexual dimorphism
2 months ago
Anonymous
What the fuck are you talking about you mentally ill gay ?
Delon look like a feminine cockhungry cuck
Also men arent supposed to be beautiful
They suppose to be masculine
2 months ago
Anonymous
you dumb moron, masculinity is a big part of what makes a man beautiful. prenatal test influences the placement and width of the zygomatic arch for example. if it's high and noticeable in daylight you already have above average masculine facial development
2 months ago
Anonymous
>muh zygomatics
You confusing beautiful and masculinity
Being masculine looking is about 3 things
The browridge, the nose and the chin
Also the lenght of your face
2 months ago
Anonymous
that's why the morph in the OP zygos become wider, sharper and more pronounced as they increase facial dimorphism?
zygomatic development has been directly linked to prenatal test exposure. so no. bigonial width is indeed also influenced by test exposure in the womb
2 months ago
Anonymous
Zygos help for looking more beautiful, not more masculine
If you have zygos but your nose, chin and browridge are weak/underdeveloped, then you will look feminine
Also you delusional if you think females are attracted to masculinity
If they were, then they wouldnt be attracted to all those femboy kpop singers and prettyboys
2 months ago
Anonymous
you're debating against the truth. it's literally in the OP's morph. increasing facial dimorphism directly increases zygo mass and angularity and a bigger zygomatic arch is linked to prenatal tes exposure. having sharp, pronounced zygos makes you both look more masculine and more beautiful. it's not a zero sum thing
I don't think women are more attracted to masculinity than to beauty btw. it's an age thing. but generally, you need both to slay. kpop singers are mostly desired by teenage girls btw
2 months ago
Anonymous
Not bear his children but they'd love to get railed by him. Breeding with hypermasc is bad for women because they want to hedge their bets on getting a male vs female. If they get a son then breeding with him is good. If they get a daughter now you've got a masculine daughter who has a lower chance of reproducing. That's why we find a mix of masc and feminine traits to be the most attractive
2 months ago
Anonymous
He is edited
In reality he has Brown eyes
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not a woman, but this doesn't look good. No, i really think it's close to looking good, but it looks like ai did a shitty job on making an attractive man's face
I hate you looksmax gays so fucking much. I go out here and there and every guy who gets attention from girls is just really good at social skills, being relaxed but also playful, not thinking about how hollow their cheeks are, just enjoying the company.
I despise you and all the retards who fall for this shit, and I was one of such retards for a while. This thinking robs you of enjoyment in life.
no, but being upper percentile in looks always shifts the balance of power in your favour. in any relationship. romance yes, but even in friendships and family. it's like living life in a different reality. looksmax gays are obsessed with that power, not with scoring bitches
Lookism 'blackpills' are fear of rejection cope. If you want a relationship or sex, you have to learn how to pursue it, like any other goal.
For the actually regular people here, you aren't excluded from romance because you aren't the one in a million. You don't need to be what 80% of women desire. You only need to be what ONE (1) woman desires.
That's cope my friend. Women campaigned online to pay that gling Black criminal jeremy meeks his bail, just because of his face, and then he married a billionaire heiress. the guy was in for some heinous gang related shit aswell
meeks is just one guy tho, thats cherrypicking, but at same time if there were 1000 chads doing as he did, they would get bailed out as easily. saying women like criminals is just bs, they just like handsome guys, good or bad
2 months ago
Anonymous
women are sexually attracted to dark triad behaviour. that has been studied extensively. a lot of guys start to deal drugs not for the money but the pussy
of course being handsome is the most important, that's never in doubt
2 months ago
Anonymous
not sexually at all imo, maybe from primal survival perspective. survival and lust are different things.
2 months ago
Anonymous
maybe so, but they still feel lust, even if it's indirectly. I've been in juvie and did some bad shit when I was younger, and when I tell women oftentimes their eyes light up. it disgusts me because I'm disgusted by my past self. but it's a thing
2 months ago
Anonymous
its ,,lust'' for safety, not for dick. not any different from man wanting to climb powerful position. not saying it doesnt work, just doesnt get them wet there.
2 months ago
Anonymous
maybe so, but they still feel lust, even if it's indirectly. I've been in juvie and did some bad shit when I was younger, and when I tell women oftentimes their eyes light up. it disgusts me because I'm disgusted by my past self. but it's a thing
>Muh women want x, they want Y
Why do you fucking care you idiotic cuck ?
Also appealing to women fantasy is being a matriarchal cuck
You literally contributing to the matriarchy
2 months ago
Anonymous
>saying women like criminals is just bs
most women are not attracted to heinous criminals (murderers, rapists etc) but 99% of women will find a guy hotter if he breaks the law occasionally. they're just wired like that. they're wired to seek the hottest most powerful male, not the most righteous. that's why we're in such a sorry state (same way men are programmed to go after the hottest woman not the most righteous)
2 months ago
Anonymous
not sexually at all imo, maybe from primal survival perspective. survival and lust are different things.
>power
yeah, power is for survival, not for lust
2 months ago
Anonymous
evolutionarily speaking i am attracted to women with large deposits of fat in their buttocks because that gives them higher chances of survival. but i don't look at a nice ass and think "hmmm survival", i think "i wanna fuck the shit out of that ass".
likewise, women don't look at a badboy drug dealer and think "hmmm survival", they think "I want him to fuck the shit out of me"
2 months ago
Anonymous
they may feel like its safety coming from that percieved ,,power''
humans are after sruvival and pleasure. these two arent exactly same.
2 months ago
Anonymous
at this point you're just rationalising and doing mental gymnastics to make sure you always arrive at the conclusion that you already had before the discussion even began.
you're not arguing seriously, you're just trying to make other people accept your point of view
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah obviously im trying to make my point. and how am i rationalizing? pussy and stomach are different things from what i can tell.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>how am i rationalizing
you're supposing that women feel attracted towards bad boys but in an exclusively "survivalist", non-sexual way. and you're not making any arguments, you're just repeating over and over that women are not sexually attracted to dark triad traits, they are just attracted for "safety", for "surivival" and that "only looks provoke lust" - anyone who has ANY experience with sex knows that looks are FAR from being the only component of lust. even the blandest of girls can become hot if she starts talking dirty in your ear. likewise, even the blandest of men can become hot if you find out that he smuggled drugs out of nicaragua in a box of shoes
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah i stand by it still. thats like saying someone hunting huge bear is gonna get pussy wet.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>thats like saying someone hunting huge bear is gonna get pussy wet.
it absolutely does get pussy wet
2 months ago
Anonymous
lmfao
2 months ago
Anonymous
a woman's lust is a lot more psychological and social than you think.
there's a reason why even college dudes who are absolutely incapable of scoring with a 21yo, can score a 17yo high school girl. girls are *sexually* attracted to social status
2 months ago
Anonymous
they are socially attracted to social status.
2 months ago
Anonymous
they are socially attracted to social status.
just as we are btw, we just want to have it ourselves, it works better for us to have it. doesnt get pussy wet, but still helps for exchange.
2 months ago
Anonymous
what's very underrated online is your voice. a low voice is a big +. you can look like a gigachad morph but if you have beckhamesque voice that hurts your raw sexual appeal
2 months ago
Anonymous
maybe it works in famine, but that pussy still gonna need some lubing up
2 months ago
Anonymous
>they may feel like its safety coming from that percieved ,,power''
It’s not that. Women fuck dangerous “sexy” men because it gives them dangerous “sexy sons” who will provide even more children.
2 months ago
Anonymous
based sexy sons hypothesist
2 months ago
Anonymous
>based sexy sons hypothesist
That’s strait out of evolutionary psychology. Sexy dangerous men make sexy dangerous sons, which gives you more sexy dangerous grandchildren.
2 months ago
Anonymous
people don't think that far ahead lmao
we aren't lions and jaguars, we are socially far more like crows and demonstration of social intelligence is far more important than mere physical fitness. in humans that's strongly connected to the media and people you grow up with. you might THINK big butt = SEXO but believe me, centuries ago some culture thought it'd be cool to call big bootied bitches ugly as the norm and to cover that shit up and force men to put on powdered wigs, so biological urges can easily be overriden.
if you think women purely have survivalist interpretations of mating then you've never been with one, they base their entire desired romance narrative off of hallmark movies and YA novels. men really aren't that different, half this generation got bricked up to cartoons and now they yank it to domme mommy hentai games
2 months ago
Anonymous
>they base their entire desired romance narrative off of hallmark movies and YA novels
nah. most of them are biologically programmed to like certain traits. when we talk about the mojarity beauty is objective
2 months ago
Anonymous
beauty is subjective bad use of word. its pillars of beauty that are objective, and lack of them is what makes someone unattractive(not exactly ugly, just not pretty)
2 months ago
Anonymous
Quite frankly you are wrong and need life experience. Beauty is fully subjective, and strongly socially tied, they are sometimes illogically associated with biological factors like youth but it is far far detached from biological function. if you dont want to believe it, good luck with your Chad rhinoplasties I suppose, it won't help you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Lol beauty is really not subjective. Beautiful people are agreed upon by almost everyone that they are beautiful. Ugly people are unanimously ugly. Where does the subjectivity come in? The 5s and 6s who get thrown a pity bone by more attractive people when copious amounts of alcohol is present?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Beauty is fully subjective, and strongly socially tied, they are sometimes illogically associated with biological factors
you don't actually believe this
2 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >power
yeah, power is for survival, not for lust
and whole violence may be percieved power on primal level, but it doesnt make their pussy wet. may make them feel ,,safer''. only looks provoke lust
2 months ago
Anonymous
>only looks provoke lust
This is how men operate. Women can be turned on with words alone.
>But to think that my girl would lust after better looking men makes me seethe
if it makes you sleep better at night, you can rest assured that she is a thousand times more worried about you lusting after hotter chicks than you are worried about her lusting after better looking men
Women value character more than actual looks, if one leaves you, it's because you're a pussy, not because someone had a better looking face lol
I look like second from left. I can confirm the sex/enemy dynamic. Because of my intense looks and behavior I'm deemed a threat. So they either hate me or want to fuck me.
>Even ur wife/ gf biologically hates u lol.
not true. the chart doesn't show the whole history.
according to their menstrual cycle, women fluctuatte between being more attracted to the masculine, dangerous pump and dump oathlete, and being attracted to the less threatening, more reliable provider.
in any case it's better to be a beta male than an ugly girl
10000 incels have 10000 concrete examples of what women AREN'T attracted to. It's not difficult to compare that with seen examples of success and draw up a hypothesis.
>short term mate status
which wouldnt be bad except every time i take a picture of myself i tell myself im an ugly fucking freak. lots of chicks i meet at stores and shit keep acting like im attractive though ill never understand it.
i'm not simping for him but >Being beautiful is for cucks >Men should strive to be masculine warriors >Not gay models who take it in the ass
sounds exactly like the type of shit some 300lb bald ogre with an unibrow would post to make himself feel better about his unattractiveness
especially after you've just said that zygomatic arches related to beauty not to masculinity and that a girl with prominent zygs can still look feminine, essentially implying that masculine-feminine and beautiful-ugly are two unrelated axis
Consume mostly animal fat with some meat. No sugary drinks, no artificial sweeteners. Just water and meat.
If you don't do this, consider your early grave a suicide
>le ebin zero carbohydrate carnivore diet
Do this if you want your SHBG sky high which nukes your free testosterone into the ground despite what your total test might be
Keto/fasting are for losing tons of weight super fast. Dumping your test levels is kinda a concession you have to make on a cut, to build them back up later on a bulk
>“Men with low testosterone find that their emotional reserves are lower,” says Dr Morgentaler. “They have a shorter fuse. In popular culture, people link male anger with high testosterone, but as a rule we see it more in men with low testosterone -- most commonly when levels are dropping. That's when men get cranky.”
2 months ago
Anonymous
yup, getting rattled/upsetti is a position of weakness
Don't eat within a certain time window of lifting.
That's what I do and it works great. If I am going to eat it will be a very small meal with low quantity of carbs.
I’m average looking right? My uncle who is a lookmaxxer told me that I got fat on the upper cheeks. He is like 30% and his face is lean but here I am at 15% fucking fat. I’m keeping the beard but my question is should is it worth to lose the fat? I can post a 9% bf before my bulk. I made neck gains and traps tho so I’m happy
I think my face is close to the left, and I tend to find sex with women easy, in fact an asian girl I was in love with and was sleeping with left me to be in a relationship with a guy that looks like the "average man", one of the reasons she gave for leaving me was because I was sleeping with other girls and wanted to feel "special". So idk, this chart kind of hits me in a different way.
> an asian girl I was in love with and was sleeping with left me to be in a relationship with a guy that looks like the "average man", one of the reasons she gave for leaving me was because I was sleeping with other girls and wanted to feel "special"
that's what you get for being a manwhore
low stomach acid?
Go for a walk immediately after eating. Minimum 15 minutes
>tfw friend but 10 coworkers tried to make me fug them
how can i get a better jawline / sucked in cheeks? even at a lower bf% (visible 4 pack) i still had a round-ish face
This dude has good facial exercises. He died in a car crash about a decade ago though so there's no new videos coming out
https://www.youtube.com/@Josh7514/videos
By a no source chart on an anime and titty appreciation board? C'mon dude. Get a hold of yourself
Women want to be raped but just won't admit it. I would post that screenshot of the women admitting their rapist made them the most wet they've ever been but that's a waste of time.
bro your whole life is a waste of time.
>dude has good facial exercises
Thanks buddy, this goes straight to my report about the origins of looksmaxxing.
How old are you? You will lose the baby fat with age. DO NOT HAVE IT REMOVED. YOU WILL REGRET IT. Just take the L right now gay and ride it out till the collagen depletes naturally in your face, starting mid-20s to early 30s. Otherwise you will legit look like an AIDS ridden meth head cancer patient if you remove it by any cosmetic means. It will be 100% more harmonious if it fades naturally with age, than just carved out without any indication as to how it will look like underneath, or how it will drop with age.
Trust me gay, take the L for now and just know you're going to hit peak chadness in your 30-40-50s like most men are supposed to. You're not supposed to lose that shit right now.
the vast majority of men will never have hollow cheeks. at least not in the way they desire. low bf can only do so much. it's about having strong, high and sharp zygos ( cheekbones) which creates depth and shadow on your cheeks. hollow cheeks are noticeable even at higher bf when they are the result of strong bones.
it doesn't matter anyway, to look like gling normie guy next door ( which attracts a lot of women) you don't need any of that
Eh, you're somewhat right, but low bf does help a lot. I have pretty decent hollow cheeks at 10-12% body fat but once I bulk to 15% (like right now), I start looking like a fat baby.
Make sure you're taking care of your teeth. Bad dental hygiene will give you rounder cheeks due to inflammation.
buccal fat removal
Sure, if you want to look fucked for the rest of your life.
Chin wing osteotomy with donor bone in between to ensure bone grows through the gaps.
Donor bone can be taken from you, from (dead) donor, or a pig.
>most masculine: highest "enemy" whilst also highest "sex"
>less masculine faces lower "sex" but still long term partners
I am once again blackpilled
>most masculine: highest "enemy" whilst also highest "sex"
hate and love are two sides of the same coin.
>most masculine: highest "enemy" whilst also highest "sex"
For the majority of evolutionary history, marriage by abduction was, if not the norm, a possibility.
>soi
cence cuck justifying whore behavior
Pls have a nice day low t bitch
>muh random morph
Also you literally ignoring that the nose, chin and browridge became stronger too
If there was zygos or not it would have make no difference to his masculinity
What im saying that there is a difference between masculine and beautiful
Obviously you can combine both but its rare, most what people think is masculine is actually feminine
I'm not only basing it on the morph, also on studies done in the womb. zygos are a dimorphic trait, depending on placement and angularity. of course the chin, nose and browridge especially are also dimorphic, I never claimed otherwise
low/mid placed zygos that are wide and apple shaped are fem, high placed zygos that are sharp and angular and create a shadow on the cheeks are masc. that's why buccal fat removal is such a failo procedure for most women, it doesn't suit the placement and shape of their zygos and it looks off
Zygos arent that dimorphic
A girl with strong zygos can still look feminine, a girl with a strong nose, chin and browridge cant
yes, because it depends on the angularity/shape and placement. a girl with wide zygos is still fem if they're low set and apple shaped. that in itself makes it a dimorphic trait
Fuck off chud.
Seething projecting cucked chud afraid of the truth
let me guess, you watch Jimmy Kimmel?
just so you know that would make YOU the "chud".
Yeah, the chart explains so much of my dating life. I've always found it weird how I've had difficulty getting one night stands, but chicks always wanted to "husband" me.
Like I can fuck a chick after 3 dates or so, then I end up finding out that that the same girl had been pumped in a club bathroom by a guy who fits the "sex/enemy" category she'd known for like 10 minutes .
Are you me? This was particularly brutal when I got my first gf at 19. I simped so hard for her, and I finally got laid after like 3 weeks of non stop back and forth which felt like absolutely insane labour. Then she ends up fucking some guy in a closet at a house party 1 week after our breakup.
Whatever. Motivated me to start lifting and she literally begged me to nut in her mouth years later when she saw my insta posts. I felt nothing and just blocked her
I had an experience like this too in my bluepilled days. Tried super hard to date this really cute gas station cashier, but after a few weeks and only a few makeouts, I gave up when she said she exclusively wanted long term shit, "we need to hold off" blah blah.
Then my chad buddy asked if he can have a go, so I said sure why not. He got her number from the gym, then literally fucked her in the dirty truck stop bathroom stalls on their first hangout and nutted on her tits. Nothing motivated me to lift harder
this so much although im getting better at fucking on first dates
i'm trying to avoid dates altogether now because i hate alcohol and spending money
3 dates? holy shit anon what are you doing on the first 2, flower viewing?
you'd be amazed at how hard it is for ugly men to get laid without huge amounts of alcohol being involved
non chads don't fuck on first date unless the girl is much uglier than them. if you fuck on first date she's probably a whore with stds
I don't consider myself a Chad because that's a meme but my name is Chad and I've fucked virgins on the first date. Is it that unusual, girls like sex.
>I've fucked virgins on the first date
either they were lying or you look like brad pitt
>Is it that unusual
yes
ugly people only fuck on a first date if 1. there's massive amounts of alcohol involved or 2. the girl is just a gigantic whore
I mean I'm no quite Brad Pitt but close enough, I've been told I look like a young Brad pitt lol
I've never had to get a girl drunk I just say bullshit and do whatever works
how tall are you
do random girls talk to you at bars/ask for your number
how often do girls touch your arms/chest/hips/belly
Like 5'6
I don't go to bars
All the time
Drinking age is 21 here that's way too old for me lol maybe when I'm 50 or some shit I'll have to fuck old women but nah
>21
>way too old for me
ah so just teenagers doing stupid teenager shit
things will get harder for you when you start having to compete with people over 5'9
you probably have a pretty attractive face, though
Absolutely fucking brutal
I want to have sex with my enemies.
fuckin dexter is supposed to be the most masculine face now?
wtf
that explains why I'm khhv but everyone is duper nice with me
Me on the left
>enemy detected
black pill that even the ideal long term partner has markedly above average facial dimorphism
I have those "hunter eyes". I look so intimidating when I take pictures of myself. Is this what girls want to see? Sometimes I try make a happier face when I take pictures
post eyes or your coping
No. Just tell me is that what they really want to see? Sometimes I send topless snaps with that intimidating look and wonder.
depends, small eyes =/= hunter eyes. even if you have legit hunter eyes it only works if the rest of your face is attractive as well. otherwise you will be seen as a tryhard uggo
I look like donte from the DmC remake. Just wondering if I should do the normal le hunter eyes or try be more neutral in my facial expression. Cause girls are hella weird sometimes in what they like.
You are coping
Also stop Caring about what girls want you cuck
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg2XsBSuaao/?hl=el
I disagree with this. Tom Brady looked more chad with less dimorphism.
Am I fucking face blind ? Like wtf is going? what's the difference between 2 and 3? I can't even pick out a single different trait. What the fuck...
more definition and sharpness in the zygos, creating a more hollow cheeks effect. they pop slightly more. 2 and 3 are far above average anyway, so the difference is minor
Yeah I guess I can see it now but it's such a minute difference. Also I notice now that the chin on 2 looks more square/protruding like a hoof frontwards as opposed to 3.
But honestly do women even notice these minuscule details? I don't think so. I think basically once you're above 4, and I believe even 4 can make it, you're good to go.
when was the last time you've actually seen someone with such pronounced zygos that they pop irl and create hollow cheeks at normal bf?
such pronounced bone structure is like less than 1% I think. so nope, women would maybe notice a slight difference in masculinity in 2 and 3, but to think that would translate into a meaningful difference in attraction is madness imo. the whole scale is an exercise in futility
I live in an area with a lot of meth heads. Fairly often. For some reason it's always white dudes who are also lanklets (height) and they seem like they could have been chad if they just put on some muscle mass, but they take drugs and cardiomaxx I guess.
At regular body fat though...I mean I saw a football player guy recently that had such strong, like it looked like apples on his cheeks, really round, high up cheeks, he wasn't too lean but in shape. But yeah he looked really chad-ish in face shape. It's that guy.
hakimi has very good bone structure. a lot of mass in his zygos, but they're middle set not high set. in 3/4 view, ideal male cheekbones should have a noticeable ogee curve and sit very high, almost straight under the eye socket. like the 5th/4th picture in the OP and like this but a little higher
in any case, most men will never look like this and that's okay. you don't have to be 99th percentile to score a normal girl, despite what some lookism autists claim
Damn imagine waking up like this and walking around just chilling. Can't even imagine
that dude looks overly cartoonish. not good.
that's big cope brother
no it's not cope. he looks like a korean tried to draw Leon Kennedy from the RE games but overdid it. also he has exceptional eye area and phenomenal hair but his jawline and lips are nothing special.
he is good, but he's no Hernan Drago
>Hernan Drago
that guy is ubermasc and has insane bone mass but is not as aesthetic. I think the prime high class slayer has more elegance in his features. like Alain Delon in his prime and Lachowski. while guys like Drago are more intimidating and masc. but it's a cultural thing as well I think
>I think the prime high class slayer has more elegance in his features. like Alain Delon in his prime and Lachowski. while guys like Drago are more intimidating and masc. but it's a cultural thing as well I think
please refer to the chart
you think prettyboys are better because you're a man and you're more attracted to soft features naturally. hernan drago is more intimidating but that's why he's the ultimate slayer. no girl would want to marry him because they'd be too insecure, but every girl would love to bear his children
fair point, but the guy in the picture isn't a prettyboy, neither is Delon or O'pry. Lachowksi yes, but even he has more masculine bone development than most men. (The average man is a boneless sack of potatoes, neither masc or fem)
so while they both have aesthetics and masculinity in spades, in the end it comes down to what women value more, in a bigger quantity: masculinity or aesthetics. I think younger women aesthetics, while to 22/23+ y/o women masculinity is more important ( provided you have aesthetics as well of course)
delon is 5/10 on masculinity scale, 11/10 in aesthetics. women estrogen shoot up at 18 btw, take as u will.
yeah I agree, but I think Delon is more than average on the masc scale. strong and long ramus, good gonial angle, high and sharp cheekbones,hollow cheeks, low brows. that all screams test, but not in the same way as ubermasc slayers ofc
just bony, not above avg masculinity. dude handsome af tho lmfao
jesus
that shot/scene is too flattering, he looks a lot more boyish and Zac Efron-esque in the rest of the movie
not above average masculinity.
>cheekbones wider than jaw
>soft skin
>blue eyes
skin and eye color mean fuckall. he just isnt very masculine. and nothing wrong with that, like look at the mf
also i have noticed people think bone mass=masculinity. its rather neoteny thing not masculinity.
big bone mass in some facial features does=masculinity
yeah in lower third and brow/eyes obviously but its about relativity. non masculine bone ratio+bone mass is pretty common. jonny depp for example, just as you can have high masculinity with low bone mass+masculine ratio.
or his ex wife, alot bone mass but really feminine looking.
how many average men have cheekbones that sit so high and prominently that it creates hollow cheeks at normal bf?
cheeks that are just a bit hollow aren't masculine
you're blind
No
He is just is
Being beautiful is for cucks
Men should strive to be masculine warriors
Not gay models who take it in the ass
But you all low t bitches anyway
Girls want feminine cucks that can get control and dominate
Appealing to them is being a cuck
He look like a feminine cuck
What are you about
because you associate beauty with feminity. the average man is a boneless pudgy fucker with barely any sexual dimorphism
What the fuck are you talking about you mentally ill gay ?
Delon look like a feminine cockhungry cuck
Also men arent supposed to be beautiful
They suppose to be masculine
you dumb moron, masculinity is a big part of what makes a man beautiful. prenatal test influences the placement and width of the zygomatic arch for example. if it's high and noticeable in daylight you already have above average masculine facial development
>muh zygomatics
You confusing beautiful and masculinity
Being masculine looking is about 3 things
The browridge, the nose and the chin
Also the lenght of your face
that's why the morph in the OP zygos become wider, sharper and more pronounced as they increase facial dimorphism?
zygomatic development has been directly linked to prenatal test exposure. so no. bigonial width is indeed also influenced by test exposure in the womb
Zygos help for looking more beautiful, not more masculine
If you have zygos but your nose, chin and browridge are weak/underdeveloped, then you will look feminine
Also you delusional if you think females are attracted to masculinity
If they were, then they wouldnt be attracted to all those femboy kpop singers and prettyboys
you're debating against the truth. it's literally in the OP's morph. increasing facial dimorphism directly increases zygo mass and angularity and a bigger zygomatic arch is linked to prenatal tes exposure. having sharp, pronounced zygos makes you both look more masculine and more beautiful. it's not a zero sum thing
I don't think women are more attracted to masculinity than to beauty btw. it's an age thing. but generally, you need both to slay. kpop singers are mostly desired by teenage girls btw
Not bear his children but they'd love to get railed by him. Breeding with hypermasc is bad for women because they want to hedge their bets on getting a male vs female. If they get a son then breeding with him is good. If they get a daughter now you've got a masculine daughter who has a lower chance of reproducing. That's why we find a mix of masc and feminine traits to be the most attractive
He is edited
In reality he has Brown eyes
I'm not a woman, but this doesn't look good. No, i really think it's close to looking good, but it looks like ai did a shitty job on making an attractive man's face
it is literally faceapp, thats tyson ballou
Prey eyes
I hate you looksmax gays so fucking much. I go out here and there and every guy who gets attention from girls is just really good at social skills, being relaxed but also playful, not thinking about how hollow their cheeks are, just enjoying the company.
I despise you and all the retards who fall for this shit, and I was one of such retards for a while. This thinking robs you of enjoyment in life.
it's literal propaganda dude
it's always a basic fitness related question and a culture war bait image
no, but being upper percentile in looks always shifts the balance of power in your favour. in any relationship. romance yes, but even in friendships and family. it's like living life in a different reality. looksmax gays are obsessed with that power, not with scoring bitches
>not thinking about how hollow their cheeks are
people who are attractive don't concern themselves with how attractive they are, woah
any other anons >enemymaxing?
>food coma
PUFA
This.
High PUFA goyslop, especially deep fried shit, is what gives me food coma.
Lookism 'blackpills' are fear of rejection cope. If you want a relationship or sex, you have to learn how to pursue it, like any other goal.
For the actually regular people here, you aren't excluded from romance because you aren't the one in a million. You don't need to be what 80% of women desire. You only need to be what ONE (1) woman desires.
Good shit. But to think that my girl would lust after better looking men makes me seethe
Women value character more than actual looks, if one leaves you, it's because you're a pussy, not because someone had a better looking face lol
That's cope my friend. Women campaigned online to pay that gling Black criminal jeremy meeks his bail, just because of his face, and then he married a billionaire heiress. the guy was in for some heinous gang related shit aswell
i love Meeks, he's partly responisble for normies being more blackpilled. his story is just so wild that it obliterates bluepill delusions
meeks is just one guy tho, thats cherrypicking, but at same time if there were 1000 chads doing as he did, they would get bailed out as easily. saying women like criminals is just bs, they just like handsome guys, good or bad
women are sexually attracted to dark triad behaviour. that has been studied extensively. a lot of guys start to deal drugs not for the money but the pussy
of course being handsome is the most important, that's never in doubt
not sexually at all imo, maybe from primal survival perspective. survival and lust are different things.
maybe so, but they still feel lust, even if it's indirectly. I've been in juvie and did some bad shit when I was younger, and when I tell women oftentimes their eyes light up. it disgusts me because I'm disgusted by my past self. but it's a thing
its ,,lust'' for safety, not for dick. not any different from man wanting to climb powerful position. not saying it doesnt work, just doesnt get them wet there.
>Muh women want x, they want Y
Why do you fucking care you idiotic cuck ?
Also appealing to women fantasy is being a matriarchal cuck
You literally contributing to the matriarchy
>saying women like criminals is just bs
most women are not attracted to heinous criminals (murderers, rapists etc) but 99% of women will find a guy hotter if he breaks the law occasionally. they're just wired like that. they're wired to seek the hottest most powerful male, not the most righteous. that's why we're in such a sorry state (same way men are programmed to go after the hottest woman not the most righteous)
>power
yeah, power is for survival, not for lust
evolutionarily speaking i am attracted to women with large deposits of fat in their buttocks because that gives them higher chances of survival. but i don't look at a nice ass and think "hmmm survival", i think "i wanna fuck the shit out of that ass".
likewise, women don't look at a badboy drug dealer and think "hmmm survival", they think "I want him to fuck the shit out of me"
they may feel like its safety coming from that percieved ,,power''
humans are after sruvival and pleasure. these two arent exactly same.
at this point you're just rationalising and doing mental gymnastics to make sure you always arrive at the conclusion that you already had before the discussion even began.
you're not arguing seriously, you're just trying to make other people accept your point of view
yeah obviously im trying to make my point. and how am i rationalizing? pussy and stomach are different things from what i can tell.
>how am i rationalizing
you're supposing that women feel attracted towards bad boys but in an exclusively "survivalist", non-sexual way. and you're not making any arguments, you're just repeating over and over that women are not sexually attracted to dark triad traits, they are just attracted for "safety", for "surivival" and that "only looks provoke lust" - anyone who has ANY experience with sex knows that looks are FAR from being the only component of lust. even the blandest of girls can become hot if she starts talking dirty in your ear. likewise, even the blandest of men can become hot if you find out that he smuggled drugs out of nicaragua in a box of shoes
yeah i stand by it still. thats like saying someone hunting huge bear is gonna get pussy wet.
>thats like saying someone hunting huge bear is gonna get pussy wet.
it absolutely does get pussy wet
lmfao
a woman's lust is a lot more psychological and social than you think.
there's a reason why even college dudes who are absolutely incapable of scoring with a 21yo, can score a 17yo high school girl. girls are *sexually* attracted to social status
they are socially attracted to social status.
just as we are btw, we just want to have it ourselves, it works better for us to have it. doesnt get pussy wet, but still helps for exchange.
what's very underrated online is your voice. a low voice is a big +. you can look like a gigachad morph but if you have beckhamesque voice that hurts your raw sexual appeal
maybe it works in famine, but that pussy still gonna need some lubing up
>they may feel like its safety coming from that percieved ,,power''
It’s not that. Women fuck dangerous “sexy” men because it gives them dangerous “sexy sons” who will provide even more children.
based sexy sons hypothesist
>based sexy sons hypothesist
That’s strait out of evolutionary psychology. Sexy dangerous men make sexy dangerous sons, which gives you more sexy dangerous grandchildren.
people don't think that far ahead lmao
we aren't lions and jaguars, we are socially far more like crows and demonstration of social intelligence is far more important than mere physical fitness. in humans that's strongly connected to the media and people you grow up with. you might THINK big butt = SEXO but believe me, centuries ago some culture thought it'd be cool to call big bootied bitches ugly as the norm and to cover that shit up and force men to put on powdered wigs, so biological urges can easily be overriden.
if you think women purely have survivalist interpretations of mating then you've never been with one, they base their entire desired romance narrative off of hallmark movies and YA novels. men really aren't that different, half this generation got bricked up to cartoons and now they yank it to domme mommy hentai games
>they base their entire desired romance narrative off of hallmark movies and YA novels
nah. most of them are biologically programmed to like certain traits. when we talk about the mojarity beauty is objective
beauty is subjective bad use of word. its pillars of beauty that are objective, and lack of them is what makes someone unattractive(not exactly ugly, just not pretty)
Quite frankly you are wrong and need life experience. Beauty is fully subjective, and strongly socially tied, they are sometimes illogically associated with biological factors like youth but it is far far detached from biological function. if you dont want to believe it, good luck with your Chad rhinoplasties I suppose, it won't help you.
Lol beauty is really not subjective. Beautiful people are agreed upon by almost everyone that they are beautiful. Ugly people are unanimously ugly. Where does the subjectivity come in? The 5s and 6s who get thrown a pity bone by more attractive people when copious amounts of alcohol is present?
>Beauty is fully subjective, and strongly socially tied, they are sometimes illogically associated with biological factors
you don't actually believe this
and whole violence may be percieved power on primal level, but it doesnt make their pussy wet. may make them feel ,,safer''. only looks provoke lust
>only looks provoke lust
This is how men operate. Women can be turned on with words alone.
>Women value character more than actual looks
lol cmon man. good>bad but still
>But to think that my girl would lust after better looking men makes me seethe
if it makes you sleep better at night, you can rest assured that she is a thousand times more worried about you lusting after hotter chicks than you are worried about her lusting after better looking men
mostly yes, but sometimes she's just a hoe
me on the far right (as always)
grow a mustache and beard
I’m on it chief wagmi
I look like second from left. I can confirm the sex/enemy dynamic. Because of my intense looks and behavior I'm deemed a threat. So they either hate me or want to fuck me.
>caring what women think
try again
Holy fuck. I need to cut.
>no source
>no sample size
>neither axis is labeled or numbered
You gullible fucktards will fall for anything
Even disregarding the actual scale, the principal is true.
>Enemy and Sex partner are the same thing to women
I give up at this point.
Life’s fked for a beta male. Even ur wife/ gf biologically hates u lol.
>Even ur wife/ gf biologically hates u lol.
not true. the chart doesn't show the whole history.
according to their menstrual cycle, women fluctuatte between being more attracted to the masculine, dangerous pump and dump oathlete, and being attracted to the less threatening, more reliable provider.
in any case it's better to be a beta male than an ugly girl
majority of wives don't hate betas they just don't respect them
This isn’t real you fucking moron just forget evo psych and you’ll stop being a black pilled idiot
Wake up babe new male body dysmorphia diagram just dropped
Unironically OMAD possibly paired with keto to avoid hypoglycemia. Or just keep eating bread throughout the day.
my maintenance is 3000 and my stomach is small so I can't eat it in one meal or even two meals that are 2 h apart
it ain't that serious. example: 3 boiled eggs will make me a bit tired but only for 20 min
Me on the right
>even small meals with 0 carbs make me tired
Have you tested your for coeliac disease?
Also what is a short/long term male?
eat foods high in glycine
carbs only make you feel "sleepy" by lowering your blood pressure
Enemy?
Now that makes sense
* works sited *
Lookism incels are like DYELs arguing about aesthetics without touching a weight, and then telling you how to workout
10000 incels have 10000 concrete examples of what women AREN'T attracted to. It's not difficult to compare that with seen examples of success and draw up a hypothesis.
Me on the right
>short term mate status
which wouldnt be bad except every time i take a picture of myself i tell myself im an ugly fucking freak. lots of chicks i meet at stores and shit keep acting like im attractive though ill never understand it.
i cant tell a difference between any of these faces except the extreme outer limits. am i retarded?
Look at the eyes, jaw and cheeks.
it's over for manlets
Take a nap. Literally all your gains come when you're asleep
Holy sissy cope
i guarantee you i look more masculine than delon, so no worries there
i just don't agree with your spergout
OK but why do you simp for him ?
>spergout
Im tired of all those cucks whorsiping those sissy gay ass models
i'm not simping for him but
>Being beautiful is for cucks
>Men should strive to be masculine warriors
>Not gay models who take it in the ass
sounds exactly like the type of shit some 300lb bald ogre with an unibrow would post to make himself feel better about his unattractiveness
especially after you've just said that zygomatic arches related to beauty not to masculinity and that a girl with prominent zygs can still look feminine, essentially implying that masculine-feminine and beautiful-ugly are two unrelated axis
to clarify: my problem with you is that you're being contradictory.
also prominent cheekbones are definitely masculine and OP's pic shows it
Not even
I have an NW0 hairline and normal eyebrows
I kinda look like a caveman tho
It depends of the cheekbones
>NW0 hairline
New World 0rder hairline?
you mean like klaus?
I literally look like this
Is it over?
nah you're good
lookism is cope for dudes who don't want to get a job
Thats just Brandon Frasier. You're good
that's normal look in eastern europe
rip
STOP EATING PLANTS!!!
Consume mostly animal fat with some meat. No sugary drinks, no artificial sweeteners. Just water and meat.
If you don't do this, consider your early grave a suicide
>le ebin zero carbohydrate carnivore diet
Do this if you want your SHBG sky high which nukes your free testosterone into the ground despite what your total test might be
HIGH FAT, RETARD!!
Is your post meant to make a point or change what I said? Because it doesn't.
CONSUMING FAT LOWERS SHBG YOU FUCKING RETARD KYS
cope harder https://youtu.be/al3XL7eZyc0
Keto/fasting are for losing tons of weight super fast. Dumping your test levels is kinda a concession you have to make on a cut, to build them back up later on a bulk
>“Men with low testosterone find that their emotional reserves are lower,” says Dr Morgentaler. “They have a shorter fuse. In popular culture, people link male anger with high testosterone, but as a rule we see it more in men with low testosterone -- most commonly when levels are dropping. That's when men get cranky.”
yup, getting rattled/upsetti is a position of weakness
kitoschizo again
If I dropped another 25 pounds I’d be second from the left, thanks for the motivation
Don't eat within a certain time window of lifting.
That's what I do and it works great. If I am going to eat it will be a very small meal with low quantity of carbs.
>maxed out "sex"
>maxed out "enemy"
what happens here?
I’m average looking right? My uncle who is a lookmaxxer told me that I got fat on the upper cheeks. He is like 30% and his face is lean but here I am at 15% fucking fat. I’m keeping the beard but my question is should is it worth to lose the fat? I can post a 9% bf before my bulk. I made neck gains and traps tho so I’m happy
fat on the upper cheeks is fine, it's fat on the actual cheeks that makes your face look round and soft
The person to the furthest right is literally me. Hell yeah everyone wants to be my friend
Holy fuck I’m fat
And non white
stop fishing for compliments, you sound like a narcissist
Nah just need a redpill anyway fuck it I’m stating a cut tommoriw anyway thanks tho
i don't think you know what a redpill is
>schmedium tee and a soi beard
kys gay
I think my face is close to the left, and I tend to find sex with women easy, in fact an asian girl I was in love with and was sleeping with left me to be in a relationship with a guy that looks like the "average man", one of the reasons she gave for leaving me was because I was sleeping with other girls and wanted to feel "special". So idk, this chart kind of hits me in a different way.
Jesus, is that actually your face? Mirin hard
> an asian girl I was in love with and was sleeping with left me to be in a relationship with a guy that looks like the "average man", one of the reasons she gave for leaving me was because I was sleeping with other girls and wanted to feel "special"
that's what you get for being a manwhore
you look like what Michael Jackson wanted to look like