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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's only true if you don't cut.
    Also, just change 5x5 to a 5x8 and it becomes a hypertrophy program.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's still a shit one because you get like 2-3x lower body volume compared to upper body, so unless you want to look like a gay, it's still a shit program.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You just swap bench with squats. Not that hard to figure out. Literally just swap the focus area with squats so it's done every workout.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/F0NDYnB.jpg

      No shit but if you aggressively cut, you can get an achievable physic like pic related.
      Literally just cut to 10%bf and then start lifting.

      the point is moron anon, a lot of are ignorant and dont know this, they follow these people without knowing most of these physiques they think they can achieve because these other guys did, because they think they can get them naturally.

      Do you guys really think the homosexuals chasing numbers will go on a cut and lose their coveted 2pl8 bench? There is a reason all the homosexuals in /plg/ are 300lb landwhales

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SS is 3×5. 5×5 is SL.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should never do SS as it does nothing. SL is much better because it actually increases strength and is a more energy intense workout.
        As I said before, just swap the 5x5 to a 5x8 and you have a great hypertrophy program.
        Swap your preferred upper body workout with squats, such as bench or ohp, and now the workout is tuned to focus on the upper body more than lower.
        On rest days, you can do isolated exercises for biceps, forearms, and triceps.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's wrong with 3x5 vs 5x5 vs 5x8? Not enough volume? It's a starter program my man

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You should never do SS as it does nothing. SL is much better because it actually increases strength and is a more energy intense workout.
            How fricking stupid can a person possibly be. They're the exact same workout.

            Don't ever post again son.

            A 3x5 won't do shit. Stop being lazy and lift more. Fricking morons.

            3x5 is for fat lazy fricks who won't make it
            5x5 is for strength
            3x8 is for starter hypertrophy
            5x8 is for hypertrophy

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              true but 6x6 mogs everything else

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But you're really small and weak?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You should never do SS as it does nothing. SL is much better because it actually increases strength and is a more energy intense workout.
          How fricking stupid can a person possibly be. They're the exact same workout.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't ever post again son.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The reality is that all these fit guys shilling excercises and routines never tell you that they (and others you're looking up to) got theirs using gear.

    This is why Rich Piana was the best because he never lied or hid it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No shit but if you aggressively cut, you can get an achievable physic like pic related.
      Literally just cut to 10%bf and then start lifting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the point is moron anon, a lot of are ignorant and dont know this, they follow these people without knowing most of these physiques they think they can achieve because these other guys did, because they think they can get them naturally.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cut your calories, then start lifting weights
        wtf bullshit advice is this lol?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you're am absolute beginner you can build muscle on a calorie restriction. This will let you build muscle and lose bodyfat at the same time. Most guys who are skinny fat want to lose fat, so this is a viable option for a dyel skinnyfat to get into shape

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            people don't realize how hard it is to get to 10% they think you can just fast for 2 weeks and boom 10% these are the morons you are talking to on here.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Beginner or otherwise you aren't building meaningful amounts of muscle in a deficit if you're <15% bf. Recomping only works if you're 20ish % bf skinnyfat

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cut as in lose weight, get down to 10% bf. Then you start lifting.
          That's what I meant to say.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you cut to start with while untrained and skinnyfat you'll just end up slightly smaller and still pudgy. Unless you're actually fat you're much better off bulking to start with to build a base.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even skinnyfat can lose bf. Then they can start eating and lifting.
          Lifting on its own while on a cut does nothing but makes you lose weight and muscle.
          Bulking will just make you get fat because you'll lose most of the muscle built when you cut.

          So really, it's better to just cut, get down to your preferred bf and then start lifting while eating slightly above your maintenance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hahahaha look at that pencil neck and baby biceps, to think this is what normies think is "buff"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not buff, it's ripped.
          Buff isn't really possible as a natty unless you bulk, but then you start looking fat. You need gear to look buff.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Starting STRENGTH
    > BASIC BARBELL Training
    > I expected to become a Bodybuilder or Olympic Lifter
    You are a moron who cannot even read.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The reality is that what you look like depends on your genetics. What sort of lifts you do makes very little difference. Your goal is just to add muscle. What you look like muscular is not going to change very much depending on what routine you do.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me, I did gain a lot in strength, my body hasn't changed aesthetically at all, if anything, bigger pecs + fat gave me man boobs. Sometimes I feel you either start skinny or you cope for the rest of your life.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >doing a program with the majority of volume in the lower body and designed to build a strength/mass base for sports
    >expecting anything different
    just do a basic balanced full body in the set rep scheme matching your goals. when the HST progression was popular in the early 2000s, the typical full body program people recommended for it on the forums had bench and ohp in the same workout and alternating squats and deadlifts, which makes much more sense than something so exhaustive as squats and deads in the same workout
    e.g. something like that would be better for 90% of people who do SS.
    A
    >bench
    >row
    >deadlift
    >accessories, e.g. curls, ab wheel
    B
    >squat
    >OHP
    >chinups
    >accessories, e.g. dips, hanging leg raises3x5 is fine, but there's nothing wrong with slightly higher reps. you can even alternate rep and set schemes even as a beginner, e.g. switch from 10 to 5 when you can't linearly progress anymore, or alternate them between workouts

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a program for beginners. It will neither turn you into a powerlifter nor will it make you look 'aesthetic', but you will you hit 1/2/3/4 really fast. You're supposed to run it for 4-6 months and then just move on to something else.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mariusz had great genetics and was on massive amounts of gear. On top of that he had been training seriously for years. If you think any program is going to make you look like that by itself you are an idiot.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what i expected
    every man in the middle is on roids.

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