How would you program a non-specialized program?

Something that incorporates powerlifting, weightlifting, bodybuilding, calisthenics, cardio etc? We shouldn't focus too much on any one aspect of lifting

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ideally you would be doing calisthenics already in a regular routine. Dips, pullups/chinups, pushups as accessory exercises. Cardio is hard to fit in for me, ideally you would have a treadmill or go for runs in the morning. When you're natural,
    bodybuilding and powerlifting are much closer than you would think. Weightlifing is just an umbrella term for those 2 things,

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, weightlifting is olympic weightlifting
      There's also strongman you have to think about

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weighlifters kinda do this, they have different training phases throughout the year. They're always doing calisthenics and some bodybuilding but during a strength phase they might be doing a more powerlifting oriented routine as opposed to a competition prep block where they're going hard on the main lifts.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No weightlifters train like powerlifters

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not entirely but it may be something akin to what a powerlifter might do but my understanding is limited.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys how do I chase 5 birds at once and catch none?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not possible to be elite at everything, but you can be good
      Look up Alex Enkiri

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I’ve seen his stuff. I like his attittude and his emphasis on the basics. Too much focus on doing silly lifts for views though imo.

        There’s a growing sub group of Instagram lifters who are really pushing these old school movements that are wildly dangerous while talking bout
        >muh functionality
        >the body is resilient bro, so do this one arm barbell behind the back snatch bro

        And I just think it’s fucking dumb. He’s not too bad for doing that stuff but he does dabble in some needlessly wacky shit. But at the same time I firmly believe that you need to have fun with your training so be consistent, abs consistently is king. So whatever makes him happy.

        Off topic a bit but yeah, it is possible to be good at a lot of different shit. But you still need some sense of focus to drive progressive overload. I doubt he got good at everything all at once.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Too much focus on doing silly lifts for views though imo.
          He likes it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Someone can’t read more than 2 paragraphs.

            If he likes it that’s dope. I do lifts that may not be optimal but I enjoy them and they allow me to be consistent in the gym. So that’s great.

            He’s been lifting for years and has built up his strength and physique and now he can do whatever the duck he wants.

            A true beginner or intermediate should not be copying his style though, they haven’t put in the time to build up like he has. Would be much better served focusing on specific movements and progressively overloading for a few YEARS.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >A true beginner or intermediate should not be copying his style though
              You have evidence for this statement?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah bro right here in the scientific journal of Ligma by authors Balls, Nutsack et al.

                Like obviously it depends on what one’s goals are but if you wanna get big or strong the answer is progressive overload which only occurs when you do a movement repeatedly. You won’t get that training like Enkiri doing 200 different OHP variations and injuring yourself trying to copy his more advanced movements that he is only able to perform because again, he’s been doing this shit for years and has built up a massively strong foundation of the basics.

                >child learning to swim but can’t stay afloat by himself
                >wdym I shouldn’t have my kid doing triple somersault backflip 360s off the high diving board?DO YOU HAVE EGIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE NOTION THAT HE SHOILDNT???

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You won’t get that training like Enkiri doing 200 different OHP variations
                Nobody said anything about that
                >and injuring yourself trying to copy his more advanced movements
                advanced movements? like... ssb squat? z press?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Were talking about training like enkiri and if it’s beneficial to beginners or intermediates. I follow Enkiri. He does like 10 different OHP variants. Wildly unnecessary for any beginner or intermediate.

                He’s doing 1 arm fucking snatches these days, Olympic lifts, WEIGHTED BOX JUMPS (next time you step into a commercial gym and really look at the fucking tiny ass 130lb beginners please come back here and tell me that those fucking children should be doing any oly lifts or putting weights around themselves and trying to jump onto waist high boxes, or be doing zercher- or zombie- ANYTHING, no FUCK NO)

                This is my last reply cause you seem like the kinda internet nerd who just likes to debate. Doesn’t actually provide any valuable input just wants to disagree to provoke more responses.

                All beginners and intermediates would be wildly better off eating right, sleeping enough, and progressively overloading on basic movements and a few staple accessories rather than wasting energy and recovery ability doing a shit ton of variation on simple exercises, or doing oly lifts, or doing shit that requires a strong base of strength and size already established, or is a meme variant done for fun or for specific goals like zerchers.

                They don’t have what he has. They need to work up to it.

                If you disagree, I don’t really fucking care. Yes you CAN train like him. Will you get big and strong? Sure, will you get there anywhere near as quickly compared to someone who trains the basics properly? Fuck no.

                Eat right. Sleep right. Train hard. No beginner should be looking any further than this. Your exercise selection is up to you, but if you want a goal, work towards that goal, if you have 8 different goals, and you’re fine being mediocre at all and great at none, then yeah dude go ahead. It’s your life.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>the body is resilient bro, so do this one arm barbell behind the back snatch bro

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically a lot of Rippetoe's programs are structured like that but without the cardio

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why can't i hold all these plates

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Olympic weightlifting is a sport moreso than it is a training tool, I don't think doing full squats and C&J would be productive if your goal is general fitness

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >C&J
      correct
      >full squats
      incorrect

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck I meant to say full snatches

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In that vein, One “functional training” trend has beginners with no clue doing squatting heavy freestanding. Usually only for experienced olympic lifters and powerlifters - outside of that, recipe for major injuries and idiotic.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >freestanding
          So out of the rack?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically everyone should have power snatches in their general fitness routine.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh if you have no particular attachment to barbell programs, kettlebells give you all of the benefits of weight training

  7. 4 weeks ago
    pb_runner

    That's kinda what I do.
    I'm working towards overall strength, mass, endurance, performance and aesthetics.
    So I do power lifts, but also isolated lifts, and a little bit of calisthenics-tier stuff with the steel mace, plus flexbility/cardio with kettlebells and rowing
    Here's my routine:

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  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do crossfit, bro.
    might have to do a little bench on the side, but pushups and ring dips will keep you from having a swimmer chest.

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