>humans aren't supposed to eat grains
>red meat is bad
>white meat had no nutrients
>oil is empty calories
>veggies are full of anti nutrients
>fruit is just sugar
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO EAT
>humans aren't supposed to eat grains. >red meat is bad. >white meat had no nutrients
i just eat red meat and fruit and dairy. i think its the best diet. just dont eat seed oils or refined sugar
Are you me? That's my diet too and I feel great.
Gastro just went through my family like a wave, everyone in the house dropped like dominos back to back over 4 days.
I didn't get sick tho and my family doesn't get why.
When my only fibre source is fruit I get watery shits
Explain
Das great
what do you eat for breakfast? just fruit and yogurt?
Why do you believe everything you read?
I bet you are vaxxed too.
Insects
>humans aren't supposed to eat grains
yes
>red meat is bad
no
>white meat had no nutrients
no
>oil is empty calories
Seed oils yes. Animal fats, lard, tallow, schmaltz, butter no.
>veggies are full of anti nutrients
yes
>fruit is just sugar
yes
>WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO EAT
Meat, organs, eggs, dairy, butter
>oil is empty calories
>Seed oils yes. Animal fats, lard, tallow, schmaltz, butter no.
Animal fats aren't oils. Why even post
Its wrong
hands faster than the brain
>gay animals
Opinion discarded
Thinking you're an idiot for not understanding the definition of a word sure is an opinion. So controversial.
> these pure fats derived from plants are bad
> these pure fats derived from animals is good
I bet you also think one political party is good and the other is bad
Wow you must be such a smart person with all the balanced and most pragmatic answers to any problem, fricking moron.
People who say "it's all about eating a balanced diet" are the most oblivious fricking mouthbreathers who don't know a goddamn thing about diet, nutrition, exercise science, biology or endocrinology.
this man has never eaten a vegetable in his life. Imagine the smell
I bet you believed liver king when he said he isn't on steroids
you know that you are making glucose with the majority of the protein you are eating if you aren't eating any carbs at all
The majority of my cells run on ketone esters from fat consumption. My brain makes the glucose it needs from the protein I consume. What about it?
Liver King can suck my nuts, idolatry of these fricking fitness homosexuals disgust me.
>fruits and veggies are bad
Ask me how I know you're American
red meat and eggs
How dumb can you be. Try surviving just eating meat without taking any supplements to gain the vitamins you miss not eating vegetables.
Wild game, wild caught fish, home grown vegetables/fruit, bread/rice, water/wine.
Bugs
Yez Lord Klaus
Yummy yummy buggy in my tummy
I Will be happy?
I feel that. I tried all the fit advice. I was happier when I didn't listen to diet schizos
Ruminant animals are the default human food. All of it, meat fat blood-and bones. Beef based diet is optimal.
>fruit is just sugar
This is nothing but an outrageous troll, even the people saying it don't believe it. Fruit is the healthiest and most natural thing you can possibly ingest.
>Fruit is the healthiest and most natural thing you can possibly ingest.
why?
Because humans are perfectly evolved to eat fruit. We literally co-evolved with fruit as in like a partnership - they would make the good stuff for us, we would go off and do everything. They have so many vitamins, phytonutrients, antioxidants, tons of stuff we don't even know about yet. They are anticarcinogenic.
The danger is that a particular type severely moronic individual will hear this thing about fruit is sugar and take it literally or near-literally, and that's the aggravating thing about it.
You could live indefinitely eating various fruits. They have everything (vitamin b12 can be made by humans or else would have to be made from insects and deposited on the fruits). While if you ate just sugar you would die within a very short period of time.
Humans were never designed or evolved to eat large animals, that is why they cause cancer, artherosclerosis, and other random bullshit like cjd, and get fat, which is why ketards are nearly all fat. No other ape eats meat more than fruit, it is nearly all fruit for other primates.
Furthermore contrary to ketard fantasies, the fruit you eat today, aside from bananas, is about the exact same as the fruits our ancient ancestors ate. They were already selected for throughout millions of years of evolution to be tasty, that's the whole point. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is a fool who doesn't know anything.
>we would go off and do everything.
I mean we would disperse their seeds among other things. Seed dispersal is the general reason why plants create fruits for animals like humans.
Fruit is just sugar and that's the best part about it, don't cuck on sugar and you have nutrition figured out, it took ketolards like Mercola decades to figure out that sugar is essential for cortisol and gluconeogenesis supression.
>gluconeogenesis supression
Its always happening just marginally less if you eat sugar
>your right but
When even post
Gluconeogenesis is literally your body trying to make sugar. If you need sugar, eat a little, stuff that digests slowly ideally, unless you're in a severely depleted state (e.g. competition physique or ultra running). It's not that hard. Lots of protein, a decent amount of fat, and some sugar here and there. Ez. Literally a chimp diet.
how about alot of sugar you anti life sissy b***h
DUUURRRR IT MUST BE BAIT FRUIT IS JUST COCAINE THERES NO REASON ITS TASTY AND AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE AND MULTIPLE SPECIES SUBSIST ON IT
Fruits are not natural lol.
What's natural is fruits being disgustingly fibrous and starchy so that no animal eats them and they can't spread their seed and they die off. Everyone is fricking sick of you anti life moron.
Red meat, eggs, fruit, dairy, honey
Literally all you need
Anything else is cope
egg, fish, fruit. you can get absolutely everything you need from this.
you dont need red meat or vegetable. both basedboys and carnitards are wrong.
Retinol, heme iron, folate, taurine, glycine, creatine, carnitine, zinc
you can get all of that from eggs fish and fruits. go ahead, name something thats missing.
Are you just naming random things or what
I gave up and I’m just fasting for 7 days now
Step 1 is to monitor how much you eat. After that, just eat whatever you want and monitor the 3 following things:
1) Fiber intake
2) Protein intake
3) Red meat intake
b8 but you're supposed to eat everything, it balances out
Grains are slave food. They'll give you nutrient deficiencies and mental illness. If you absolutely must consume grains, eat long-fermented sourdough or maybe some white rice. Red meat is based and great for you; eat it in abundance (grass-fed is ideal). Also, consume organs, especially liver and heart. White meat is fine, but not as good (healthy) as red, and harder to find from animals that eat their natural diet. Oil is processed slop; you should never consume it. Use tallow or ghee instead. Lard and other animal fats are good, too, but again, hard to find from healthy sources. Fruit is sugar + electrolytes and some nutrients. It is mostly for hydration and carb-loading/insulin spiking. Vegetables are optional; if you're going to eat them, cook or ferment them. Sauerkraut is great for healing a damaged gut. Other fermented foods like kefir are great for this purpose, too.
Chicken heart is actually tasty for anyone else new to organ meat. Liver can be rough in the beginning for most peoples pussified taste, happened to me too.
>ferment
Lmao, I thought you were against goyslop
Plants. Ignore ketoschizos. Go press them for health outcome data showing the more meat and fat you eat the healthier you get. They will be silent or try to divert attention elsewhere because there is none and they know there is none. They are all anti-human liars out there to kill you.
I know you want to destroy your body by pretending that humans in all of their 200,000 year history didn't eat animals but please, keep your moronic beliefs to yourself.
>$.12 have been deposited to your ID chip
You should eat all of these things, just don't fall for diet tips from IST
Consider the following:
- humans are apex predators
- the people who tell you to eat plant-based high-carb low-fat are the same people who told you to wear a mask and get injected with pfizer product
/misc/ is out there schizo
>remember if you eat eggs to throw away the yolk
>better yet don't eat eggs at all just eat cattle feed (grain)
>- humans are apex predators
sorry, according to vegans, humans were apex foragers. Our fat reserves and evolutionary advantages pertaining to metabolism and heat distribution were for humans to quickly be the first to reach for berries and selectively bred fruit as they ripened thousands and thousands of years ago.
Pure Vril energy (meth)
whatever you want to eat and then also exercise and eat more than just two different things
Just go strict carnivore: High-protein, high-fat, zero-carb. Only eat non-processed meat, eggs, and butter/lard/tallow/ghee, only drink water, and never cheat. Plants, grains, and fruits are literally poison and toxify you, and you are slowly killing yourself and shortening your potential lifespan by decades by eating them.
The smartest people throughout all of history had primarily grain based diets.
Number of carnivore philosphers who shaped western civilisation? Zero.
>Plants, grains, and fruits are literally poison and toxify you, and you are slowly killing yourself and shortening your potential lifespan by decades by eating them
>shortening your potential lifespan by decades by eating them
People with plant based diets live longer than carnivore larpers.
>The smartest people throughout all of history had primarily grain based diets.
They would have been even smarter if they only ate meat. Think of all the brain-gains they missed out on. What a shame.
>Number of carnivore philosphers who shaped western civilisation? Zero.
Philosophy is for pretentious pseudo-intellectuals. A degree in philosophy is basically a participation trophy and the equivalent of letting the moronic kid play with you, even though he's worthless and contributes nothing. So, it's not really anything to brag about. Besides, I could kill all your homosexual philosophers with a single punch and they couldn't do shit about it, so suck it, gay.
>People with plant based diets live longer than carnivore larpers.
No, they specifically only live longer than people who gorge themselves on goyslop their whole life. It's not a fair comparison, since it's not comparing a wholefood meat-based diet vs. a wholefood plant-based diet. Stop being disingenuous. If we're comparing a wholefood meat-based diet vs. a wholefood plant-based diet, carnivores effortlessly live for 100-120+ years, whereas plant-based eaters only live into their 70s if they're lucky. Basically, you're effectively shortening your lifespan by 30-50 years by eating plants.
>zero citations
Only homosexuals ask for citations. You're not smart.
>the two most carnivorous groups of people on the planet still eat plants.
The Masai literally only eat meat, dairy, and blood. Sorry, but you're just straight up wrong. Not to mention their neighbouring tribe only eats plants and they're on average 5 inches shorter, live shorter lives, have less muscle mass, and have many health issues.
>inb4 someone says that native alaskan garbage myth
>they eat a lot of berries and roots, which are plants.
No, they only come across berries once a year and only eat very little of them. So little, in fact, that it's also not enough to be significant to their diet to any degree, so it's a moot point.
The Masai diet involves regular consumption of herbal plants that they add to their soup meats.
They also eat berries.
Nice try homosexual.
Alaskan natives are able to eat roots all year anon, they literally are under the snow lol god damn you're moronic.
>Philosophy is for pretentious pseudo-intellectuals
It was the foundation of all science in the bronze ages...
>carnivores effortlessly live for 100-120+ years, whereas plant-based eaters only live into their 70s if they're lucky
Post a single carnivore who has lived past 80.
>The smartest people throughout all of history had primarily grain based diets.
lmao, lol even
Half the things on that list aren't even essential
>strict carnivore
zero citations
the two most carnivorous groups of people on the planet still eat plants.
>inb4 someone says that native alaskan garbage myth
they eat a lot of berries and roots, which are plants.
In reality the guy on the left is morbidly obese. Guy on the right is pretty accurate though.
I can literally FEEL myself getting dumber when I read these threads. It’s remarkable.
>ftm troony wants me to come frick her
She still just looks like a girl but I dunno
>>ftm troony wants me to come frick her
Ketogays, everyone.
There's soooo much marketing snake oil and bro science BS that I had to turn to one of the top schools in the country. They sell publications with loads more info of "whys" and etc, but tl;dr version of the books: just follow pic-rel as close as possible.
More info:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/
inb4
>seed oil
You do you bro. honestly I agree with avoiding most seed oils, except seeds that are naturally fatty like peanut or sunflower. Otherwise I find Harvard's guidelines the gold standard.
How are isolated nutrient devoid oils more important than fish and nuts. What a crock
lolol it does make it seem like one should be downing it straight up or some shit. I imagine someone chugging a cooking oil bottle like water while at the gym or something haha
There's literature that describes everything on the pyramid. iirc it probably means to get fats from healthy sources, like olives, avocado, etc
>it probably means
The picture is literally isolated processed oils.
I think it's a reminder to not get low fat or fat free versions of things. Kinda a poor way of doing it now that you point it out like that
This is what comes up when going to the part about oils in the food pyramid:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/
>Foods high in good fats include vegetable oils (such as olive, canola, sunflower, onions, and corn)
Yeah no
Vastly oversimplified to the point of falsehood. Diet is not a static set of ratios, and these ones aren't even ideal. Unfortunately, these ratios aren't even near a decent baseline: the protein recommendations here are essentially half of what you need to maintain healthy muscle mass and organ function in the long term given regular exercise. Should be more dairy in the base than as a supplement considering digestibility, and shit like PB is still sugary. More fat relative to grains but less overall. Salt isn't bad but the problem is people eat junk that has a ton in it, you need electrolyte replenishment with exercise, and that includes potassium. Extreme exercise would need calcium and magnesium as well.
Frick's sake this shilled diet disgusts me, still a paid interest behind it.
>PB is still sugary
Real peanut isn't sugary. Stop eating that Jiff and Skippy slop
>Extreme exercise
good thing this is for average joe and not some extremist
>Frick's sake this shilled diet disgusts me, still a paid interest behind it.
stay with your bro science idc
yes that's right, toss out the whole thing because there's one thing in it you don't wanna eat
>yes that's right, toss out the whole thing because there's one thing in it you don't wanna eat
Things I didn't say for 500 alex
>good thing this is for average joe
>not addressing the bulk of the post
you also do realize the average joe doesn't read shit, right? They just buy what's cheap or looks good and if they're going by that pic, they're definitely gonna spam peanut butter as their "nuts", and it's probably gonna be Skippy, dumbass. Bro science works to an extent, mostly because nutritional science is still young and not quite up to speed on the details of physiology. It doesn't help that many nutritional studies, much like most scientific fields, are funded by paid interests to fudge the results.
But you seem pretty disingenuous, so I'm going to assume you're a bitter DYEL gay and move on with my life. Enjoy looking like a twig and pulling Porkie Pig dude.
>not addressing the bulk of the post
If you read more the material provided in the link then you'd understand that most of the stuff you're talking about has been addressed
If you read my post you'd understand that the average joe doesn't fricking read, dumbass.
just like you didn't read the link?
You have to stop letting random people have so much authority over your mind. It is rare that someone is just giving you advice out of goodwill, many have some sort of agenda to push. Here is an idea to consider, to evaluate for yourself in your own mind. Not some sort of religious dogma:
Traditional diets.
Before the industrial revolution, people depended on traditional diets that were formed by humans naturally seeking out their necessary nutrients from the environment around them.
Everyone has roots and culture, ancestry from pre-industrial times and even pre-historic times. The way people lived in these times is your cultural inheritance, including their diet or foodways as it is often called. It is a wealth of knowledge and vital, human culture that belongs to you. You can claim it and preserve it for generations, that's the only way it has survived.
Traditional diets are healthy and tasty. Eating healthy doesn't mean punishing yourself in some masochistic manner. For example, my ancestors were Germanic. We drank lots of milk, ate lots of cheese, oats, wheat, barley, beef, fish, and so on. I have some family by marriage that is Mexican as well, I grew up eating tamales (homemade), enchiladas, tomato rice and refried pinto beans, tortillas, and so on.
All of these make for balanced, tasty meals if you don't overeat and remember to exercise. I have these big bags of oats that I eat for breakfast, it is a good base to mix with other foods like milk, sugar, fruits, cinnamon, and so on.
Try and connect with your roots, there is a lot of vital knowledge there that becomes you. Traditional diets are inexpensive, healthy, and taste better than the choicest of mass manufactured foods. Though it's not some sort of cardinal sin to eat fast food or processed foods now and then, it's just not healthy to depend on these foods completely.
Also, remember to drink lots of water and stay hydrated.
Especially in these colder months. It's easy to neglect hydration during colder temperatures when you aren't sweating or "feeling thirsty" but it is still just as important.
Chicken and rice, son. Chicken and rice and broccoli, forever.
Also all that talk is bullshit from fat 17yo kids that are obese from eating doritos and drinking pepsi all day
>Chicken and rice, son
beef and potatoes is far better
>meat (pork, beef, chicken, fish)
>dairy (milk, cheese)
>fruit (in low amounts)
That's basically all you need. Don't use sneed oils, cook everything in animal fat and ghee. Don't use man-made vegetables full of staches and high glycemic indices. Corn, grains (bread), potatoes are the devil. Eat onions and garlic daily.
If you were to find yourself in the wild before the agricultural revolution and man-made vegetables, you wouldn't find an abundance of readily-available carbs, especially not during winter. That's why many modern-day disease stem from a bad diet, mainly too much carbs. There's nothing wrong with carbs, it becomes a problem when 80% of a meal is carbs, especially refined sugar.
You vil eat nothing, and you vil be happy.
If you want to have a healthy diet just eat mostly whole foods and avoid processed junk a majority of the time.
Don't listen to elimination diet shills, they'll go back to eating the food group they currently think is literal poison in a year or two after the deficiencies kick in.
>t. Former vegan
And no carnivore is not better.
EAT A BALANCED DIET WITH VERY LITTLE JUNK. it's literally so simple.