hey bros, has anyone else here had hyperthyroidism? a few years ago i got really sick with this. moron doctors didnt help so after reading several medical textbooks and tons of papers i 'cured' myself with lugols iodine
most of my symptoms are gone/much better. my hair grew back, gained back to a normal weight etc, but i still have some nagging issues. exercise is hard and i dont tend to gain muscle, im still fatigued and cold most of the time, and if dont eat AT LEAST 2500-3000 calories a day i get really fricked up after a few days (note: im a 5'11 155lb lanklet)
just wondering if anyone else has had this and has any tips for maintaining consistent health and fitness. also if anyone has thyroid questions i spent months reading medical textbooks and papers about the thyroid so maybe i can help with quesitions
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yes my levels were horrible. doctor said no need to do anything lets get another check up like half a year later. did that, they were back to normal. didnt change anything,
life happens. sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some.
I got diagnosed with "mild" hyperthyroidism when I was a kid and my doctor said we should just wait and see and as long as it does not get much worse we wouldn't need to do anything about it. I was 130lbs at 6'0 when I started lifting and trying to gain weight. Got up to 140 with some effort and plateaued there for a while. As I got older (late twenties) my metabolism did slow down a little bit and I got up to 165 and I sit around there quite comfortably but it would take an insane bulk to bring my weight further up from here. My tips would depend on what your goals are. If you are concerned about health then you probably shouldn't even bother gaining weight. Personally, I avoid anything that restricts my appetite, I keep my activity level very low throughout the day, exceptions are around 30 minutes of cardio and lifting on the training days.
>I keep my activity level very low throughout the day, exceptions are around 30 minutes of cardio and lifting on the training days.
ya this is what i usually have to do unfortunately but id rather be alot more active. i can go hard for a week or so but then i crash hard and end up back where i started.
do you need to eat alot to feel normal too? 3000 calories is my magic number i wont gain weight and feel good, but thats way more calories than i 'should' need and its annoying to try to get it every day
what were your numbers? hypo or hyper? do you have any symptoms of thyroid issues like always cold/hot, hair falling out, fricked up skin/fingernails/toenails?
I have hypo, I discovered I have Hashimoto's by chance because the only symptom I experienced was hair loss. I hope my hair grows back too.
are you taking thyroxine or anything like that? hashimotos is an autoimmune condition, for some people cleaning up diet can really help especially things like eliminating potential allergens like wheat/gluten, dairy, or eggs
I've been taking it for a few weeks now, I was a little bummed out when I found out I might have to take it for the rest of my life but I got used to it.
well you might have to. you could try supplementing iodine (lugols iodine or potassium iodide ONLY...DO NOT take kelp supplements). about 1/3 hypothyroid people who take it end up going off thyroxine, and about another 1/3 end up lowering their dose
also if the thyroxine isnt working properly consider armor thyroid or another 'natural dessicated thyroid supplement'. they also contain t3 and are often more effective for people than thyroxine
What's wrong with kelp supplements and how much lugol's solution do you recommend?
kelp supplements are sporadic in iodine content, high in bromine which competes with iodine for uptake in the thyroid, and they are generally in submilligram doses which can be antagonistic to people with thyroid issues
op here btw, and checked
They chopped mine out so I take pills for life.
Wake up babe, new Lainey just dropped
Had a very extreme case of hyper(graves), did a couple of radioactive iodine treatments and now my values are great and have been that way for a few years. But i didn't feel great for quite a while.
>exercise is hard and i dont tend to gain muscle im still fatigued and cold most of the time, and if dont eat AT LEAST 2500-3000 calories a day i get really fricked up after a few days
I can relate to all of this after the treatment. Going to the gym would fatigue me quickly and I'd have a hard time putting on any muscles apart from the initial bounce back from being extremely underweight. Fast forward about 1.5 years after the treatment and I suddenly started to gain a pretty ridiculous amount of muscles without doing any real workout or any other lifestyle changes. The fatigue started to disappear and i stopped feeling too cold while sedentary and too hot while active. I still need to eat far more than normal to keep my weight and I still get these kind of emergency hunger feelings but it has gotten a bit better. I don't know why it happened, maybe it was just a amtter of time or maybe its because my TSH values became measurable for the first time around the time i noticed these improvements.
Hyperthyroid/Graves is an interesting thing to me. Like your T4/T3 is very high, which should result in lots of energy, strength and positive effects, but it doesn't. I've heard that just because you have lots of thyroid hormones floating around in your blood doesn't mean that you're actually using them. My theory is that people with hyperthyroid aren't actually using the thyroid hormones they produce, so they just build up and float around the blood, signally the pituitary gland to stop producing TSH, so no more T4/T3 is being made but the counts are still high because your body isn't actually burning those up.
I have a very narrow and limited understanding of this but even the fricking endocrinologists don't explain what's going on, just "well your TSH is low so we're going to try to shut down your thyroid gland cause it's making too much"
I think there's still a ton that they don't know
I'm no expert but I like to compare it to a CPU. More energy gives more power and makes it better until a certain point but eventually you won't be able to cool it enough and it'll start to throttle and slow down or maybe even break. I think its the same for the body, the energy must go somewhere but the body isn't capable of utilizing it in a good way resulting in all the drawbacks instead.
My case was pretty severe so I got a really wild experience. I got so warm that I would go out in my summer clothes when it was -15 and still be warm. My body was constantly shaking to rid itself of the extra energy. My pulse was so high that my phones pulse sensor couldn't measure it, it got even worse when i would start to move and I became unable to breathe. Lots of nasty stuff but I think the hormonal production in the brain were amplified as well. Despite my body deteriorating I felt great mentally and the sleep was amazing.
>I think there's still a ton that they don't know
Ye they have no fricking clue. They just do whatever the book says you should do when you have x value and then they're satisfied. My endocrinologist and a few other doctors seriously used the word "impossible" in my case. Turns out it wasn't impossible and they had no clue nor explanation.
fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing. you're the same one who got the radioactive iodine? I was under the impression that destroys the thyroid and leaves you dependent on exogenous thyroid hormone.
notice how these are all just high cortisol symptoms and the docs used some alien death ray on your thyroid for no reason
Well, it worked and having been exposed to a death ray sounds kinda cool!
I'm not cortisol pilled, care to share why you think that's the answer?
>high cortisol symptoms
That's odd, I've had hyper active thyroid symptoms start exactly when I switched to a job that had a big impact on my cortisol. I went from working inside on a computer all day, to being outside all day carrying weight.
that's great bro, did you have to take a weird pill that came up through the floor and hide in a room for 3 days? its way better than having them rip out your thyroid lol
its hilarious living in a world of fatties and having the problem of not eating enough. have any tips for getting enough calories all the time? i make alot of big stews and stuff to eat a couple times a day on top of meals
>did you have to take a weird pill that came up through the floor and hide in a room for 3 days
sounds like some manga shit, is that actually how it's administered? I did some work on a lab where they created radioactive medicines and the whole place was very fortified and secure... I wonder if that's the kind of shit they make
years ago it always was, but i believe they just walk in wearing a hazmat suit and give it to you now. for a few days after you need to stay alone in a room, and youre not even supposed to use the same toilet as others because youre so radioactive. its rather drastic lol
not radioactive man btw, im op but ive read extensively about it and my aunt had it done. fun fact, thyroid issues in your family exponentially increase your likelihood of having problems yourself
It runs more in women though. I got it and the wen in my family had it. I'm a male. 10 times more likely in women.
ya but I've never found issues with it
I hope I’m not being a hassle here, but could you give a list of symptoms you’ve been experiencing? I’ve been dealing with something similar and have been going to doctor’s and exam appointments for a year and a half and still have no diagnosis.
for me it was quick weight loss (was already skinny and lost 30 lbs in a month), freezing cold 24/7, i had diarrhea every time i ate...usually after like 2 bites of food. i was also super nervous and shaky all the time, it honestly felt like a bad acid trip
over time my hair started to fall out in big clumps in the shower and if i did anything physical id get so exhausted id feel like i could just lay down and die
Does ashwagandha cause hyperthyroidism ? My TSH is at 2 but i'm affraid of fricking my thyroid.
ive never read/seen anything suggesting that but cant say for sure. tsh of 2 is fine, but the numbers arent everything. why are you worried about your thyroid? do you have symptoms?
My father had his thyroid removed because of a goitre, also I read many thread on reddit of people claiming that ashwagandha caused them to develop hyperthyroidism. I just dont want to take any risk.
well that means you likely have a genetic predisposition so you should definitely be careful. the genetic aspect is much stronger if its on the mothers side btw
do you live in the area known as the 'goiter belt'? around the great lakes? either way if your dad had a goiter he was likely iodine deficient so you might want to consider supplementation. use lugols iodine or potassium iodide ONLY, DO NOT take kelp supplements
for anyone here who wants to know more about iodine supplementation, read the book 'Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It' by dr brownstein. it gives a great overview of why to take iodine, how much etc
Whats wrong with kelp supplements?
>T. Been taking kelp regularly for the past year
>kelp supplements are sporadic in iodine content, high in bromine which competes with iodine for uptake in the thyroid, and they are generally in submilligram doses which can be antagonistic to people with thyroid issues
its was actually taking a kelp supplement that started my problems, and higher doses of iodine (5mg+) that fixed it
hyperPARAthyroid is the sneaky shit that really fricks you up over decades
basically you have four tiny glands on the inside of your thyroid that regulate calcium in your blood. When they get benign tumors they start making too much calcium releasing hormone and it starts to rot your bones and frick up all your organs
ya i read a bit about parathyroidism but none of the symptoms etc applied to me. i know on a couple of my blood tests there were parathyroid tests on there but they might be misleading like thyroid numbers can be
do you have parathyroid problems?
i have every symptom of it, but my PTH and calcium are actually low/normal. I had one high blood calcium but certain supplements can cause bad readings, like biotin in multivitamins.
The best thing to do is take matters in to your own hands and buy your own blood tests.
that sucks bro. keep in mind calcium is balanced in relation to other electrolytes too so supplementing magnesium or potassium might help