I am afraid of never becoming good looking

Hello bros. I used to go on lookism. I still go to other websites. I am ugly. I know my flaws and solutions (surgeries) for it. I dont have unfixable flaws. I am still afraid of never becoming good looking, never being the dream man of a girl, never making a girl wet.

Only thing that keeps me away from roping is my height. I am 6'3.
>inb4 fake
height means jackshit if you are ugly.

i missed out soo much in life. i never texted with a girl in a flirty way. i go soo crazy when i realise i wont ever live my teen years again. i will never ever have a teen love.

i dont even know why do i make this thread but i feel soo tired bros.

I wish i had a normal life like everyone did...

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    QQ incel
    Your on a board full of people who have had the same experience
    I’m sure plenty of them will join your pity party, but don’t act like you’re special

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this and also

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dont think lifting is going to help you cope

    you should try talking to a therapist

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never experienced teen love aswell
    Had my first kiss and eventually lost my virginity at 22

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I never experienced teen love
      Kek, you guys missed out and you'll never experience what the rest of us did. It makes me sad how pathetic that is.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this but unironically.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s amazing how much it damages people not to experience it, but how little significance it is to people who experience it. I don’t think back to that period at all, normally if I reminisce it’s about girls more recent.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > “Pleasure is never as pleasant as we expected it to be and pain is always more painful. The pain in the world always outweighs the pleasure. If you don't believe it, compare the respective feelings of two animals, one of which is eating the other.”

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            True but Shoppenhower was a bitch imo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am still a virgin at age 18 how do I get laid

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          1- talk with girl u like
          2 - "hey, want to have sex?"
          3 - if no, repeat 1

          ur welcome 🙂

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            or step 4. just go caveman mode and capture girls and bring them back to your cave and feed them animals that you captured until they like you

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would say wear boots + lifts to bump your height up to 6'5. Girls will genuinely give ugly ogres a chance if you're freakishly tall

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lookism is absolutely retarded, anon. You need to deprogram yourself from that demoralizing poison.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man doesn't need to be beautiful. Beauty is a feminine trait. There are ugly bastards who Fuck a lot. Woman get wet for strength most of all, mental and physical strength. But you gotta surmount your insecurities and put yourself out there to build that strength, because it isn't something you can fake.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its not like what do you think. most people think about the nose when i say that i am ugly. i almost have zero jawline.

      Get the fuck over it anon.

      Want to base your entire sense of self on comparison? This is a recipe for a miserable life but let's give it a shot.

      >Born in the top five percentile for height at least
      >Introspective enough to identify your problems (most people do not)
      >Access to more information for self improvement and the universe than 99% of humans in history and like 50% of humans now (you are on the internet)

      Fuck typical experiences and fuck what everyone thinks. Identify your values and live according to them. Go talk to people. Work out. And you know what? Ironically, if you really stop living in comparison, you stack up better and people like you more.

      No one gives a shit if you're ugly. They will subconsciously treat you less politely. But fuck what people think? Why does it matter?

      well only uplifting reply so far but you cant just say "i dont give a fuck if any woman doesnt find me attractive". i am a healthy human. i need to have lover that i have sex.

      What's your bofyfat percentage op?
      If it's not between 10-15% I will smack you.
      Also bf% cause the face to bloat making you unattractive

      %13. i am recessed so i still look bloated.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I need to have a lover.
        >I need to have sex.

        No, you really don't. It's not completely the same but that's almost like saying you NEED to have junk food, or you NEED to not eat at a deficit. It's something your biology is steering you towards. Not being with a woman will not kill you, and the sooner you stop attaching an iota of self worth to outcomes with women, the sooner you will feel better and, ironically, probably be more successful with women.

        The ugly fuckers who get laid partially do so by not being super in their own heads and attached to outcomes.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No, you really don't. It's not completely the same but that's almost like saying you NEED to have junk food, or you NEED to not eat at a deficit. It's something your biology is steering you towards. Not being with a woman will not kill you, and the sooner you stop attaching an iota of self worth to outcomes with women, the sooner you will feel better and, ironically, probably be more successful with women.
          i bet you have sex

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Currently in a 4 month dry spell actually. Bad on me for even counting.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              oh poor dude. he did not have sex for 4 month. i can totally releate bro.

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              Oh, and based on your posts, I do not agree that you are "a healthy human." Not a knock against you, but you've got some mental health work to do.

              well lets say a human with a functioning hormonal system.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just trying to help bro.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I need to have a lover.
        >I need to have sex.

        No, you really don't. It's not completely the same but that's almost like saying you NEED to have junk food, or you NEED to not eat at a deficit. It's something your biology is steering you towards. Not being with a woman will not kill you, and the sooner you stop attaching an iota of self worth to outcomes with women, the sooner you will feel better and, ironically, probably be more successful with women.

        The ugly fuckers who get laid partially do so by not being super in their own heads and attached to outcomes.

        Oh, and based on your posts, I do not agree that you are "a healthy human." Not a knock against you, but you've got some mental health work to do.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody cares about your jaw. Your writing reeks of mental weakness and you probably reek of it in person in the way you handle yourself and the way you talk. A real man is strong and kind and use his strength and kindness to lead and help the people around him. And a real man is always attractive to women no matter what he looks like. Right now you are weak and narcissistically centered on yourself and your apparence and you got to get out of that.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >And a real man is always attractive to women no matter what he looks like.
          like seriously? you think i am an average freak that thinks he is ugly?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What I wrote applies whether your nose is a little crooked or you have no jaw or your face was blown out in a trench in WW1 or your face melted in a fire and you somehow survived.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get the fuck over it anon.

    Want to base your entire sense of self on comparison? This is a recipe for a miserable life but let's give it a shot.

    >Born in the top five percentile for height at least
    >Introspective enough to identify your problems (most people do not)
    >Access to more information for self improvement and the universe than 99% of humans in history and like 50% of humans now (you are on the internet)

    Fuck typical experiences and fuck what everyone thinks. Identify your values and live according to them. Go talk to people. Work out. And you know what? Ironically, if you really stop living in comparison, you stack up better and people like you more.

    No one gives a shit if you're ugly. They will subconsciously treat you less politely. But fuck what people think? Why does it matter?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's your bofyfat percentage op?
    If it's not between 10-15% I will smack you.
    Also bf% cause the face to bloat making you unattractive

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I encourage you to improve yourself as much as possible. If you think that plastic surgery can make you more confident and it’s a safe procedure, then go for it.

    But also realize that attractiveness is also heavily based on the way your carry yourself. Guys like Ryan Gosling and Jake Gyllenhaal have unsymmetrical faces but they are considered very attractive by girls.

    Also, stop thinking about the past. Just think about what you what you want today and go for it. “Oh, I didn’t text a girl when I was 17.” Just meet one and text with her now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Guys like Ryan Gosling and Jake Gyllenhaal have unsymmetrical faces but they are considered very attractive by girls.
      Well symmetry is not a requirement but the icing on the cake. they have one thing in common, good jaw. i am %100 sure a jaw implant going to make look better but i cant imagine myself more attractive.
      >Also, stop thinking about the past. Just think about what you what you want today and go for it. “Oh, I didn’t text a girl when I was 17.” Just meet one and text with her now.
      I wish i could. thank you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dude. Are you mentally ill? Quit thinking about your fucking jawline. If it really bothers you that much, cut some weight and grow a bigger neck and traps. It's really not that fucking complicated. You do not need to go get some fruity-ass surgery for your jaw. Do you really think qts in public look at you and think: "oh that guy would be so much better if he had a sharp jawline." No, they don't. They look and think: "oh why is that guy hunched over and averting his eyes? jeez is he okay?"

        If you want to find the negatives in life, you do not have to look far. It takes a truly mentally strong individual to recognize one's shortcomings and work on them if they can be altered. If they cannot be altered, then man the fuck up and quit caring. Treat yourself the way you would like to be treated. Puff your chest out. Quit bitching. Best of luck anon.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am 28 years old and I never even kissed a girl

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sorry for that too brother. you can try looksmaxxing. like i do.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, cool, lots of people got shit cards dealt
    you can keep crying and imagining things or acknowledge where you are
    where you go from here is a choice
    moron.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based uplifting answer.

      It’s amazing how much it damages people not to experience it, but how little significance it is to people who experience it. I don’t think back to that period at all, normally if I reminisce it’s about girls more recent.

      this

      >6'3
      You were in tutorial mode and still fucked up, not even god can fix your stupid ass, get out of here

      used all of my genetic points on height

      Dude. Are you mentally ill? Quit thinking about your fucking jawline. If it really bothers you that much, cut some weight and grow a bigger neck and traps. It's really not that fucking complicated. You do not need to go get some fruity-ass surgery for your jaw. Do you really think qts in public look at you and think: "oh that guy would be so much better if he had a sharp jawline." No, they don't. They look and think: "oh why is that guy hunched over and averting his eyes? jeez is he okay?"

      If you want to find the negatives in life, you do not have to look far. It takes a truly mentally strong individual to recognize one's shortcomings and work on them if they can be altered. If they cannot be altered, then man the fuck up and quit caring. Treat yourself the way you would like to be treated. Puff your chest out. Quit bitching. Best of luck anon.

      they dont say "wow what a good jawline" but their brain signals them that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they dont say "wow what a good jawline" but their brain signals them that.
        My man, even if that is the case, who the fuck cares? If you were right, then every jawlet on this planet would repel women. As someone who ventures outside of my mommy's basement, I can anecdotally confirm that there are plenty of jawlets who are in happy relationships (and some of them are shorter than you!).

        I truly want you to get this through your thick skull. Being a nihilistic, demoralized shell of a man is 100x less attractive than any physical feature. You lose before you even start.

        I'll give you a more practical example. When I used to play soccer somewhat competitively, there was something that I observed often. When a team got scored on, if they were a disciplined, organized, confident team, then they would be able to bounce back. Particularly their POSTURE would stay good. The players would not start bitching and blaming eachother.

        But teams that were unconfident and undisciplined would immediately begin to complain about something, and their posture would get worse. They would almost always go on to lose.

        My point is: how you carry yourself is far and away more important than anything. Just think about it logically. If being a jawlet was that undesirable, then the human species would have evolved to never have that problem.

        As I said in

        Dude. Are you mentally ill? Quit thinking about your fucking jawline. If it really bothers you that much, cut some weight and grow a bigger neck and traps. It's really not that fucking complicated. You do not need to go get some fruity-ass surgery for your jaw. Do you really think qts in public look at you and think: "oh that guy would be so much better if he had a sharp jawline." No, they don't. They look and think: "oh why is that guy hunched over and averting his eyes? jeez is he okay?"

        If you want to find the negatives in life, you do not have to look far. It takes a truly mentally strong individual to recognize one's shortcomings and work on them if they can be altered. If they cannot be altered, then man the fuck up and quit caring. Treat yourself the way you would like to be treated. Puff your chest out. Quit bitching. Best of luck anon.

        , if it really bothers you that much, cut some fat and grow your neck.

        I promise you, feeling sorry for yourself will achieve nothing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          well you are right about the last sentence. but its not just about being a jawlet. the big picture is worse than that. if the things that i have never experienced is easily achievble by normal people there is something wrong and different with me.
          i am already lean. still no jaw. its about the bone.
          i am a severe jawlet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > the big picture is worse than that. if the things that i have never experienced is easily achievble by normal people there is something wrong and different with me.

            Yes there is something wrong and different with you. It has nothing to do with your jaw. As I mentioned earlier, it is the way you carry yourself:
            > Being a nihilistic, demoralized shell of a man is 100x less attractive than any physical feature.

            Look man, I am not writing this from the perspective of gigachad or some shit. Few people are born without genetic physical flaws. But so fucking what? I honestly want you to stop thinking about your jaw. It is pointless. Don't be a fraud by getting some gayly surgery. Be a bigger man than that. Literally it is as simple as loving yourself and having confidence. I know it sounds gay, but it is completely true.

            Take someone who you think is a chad. If you did a bodyswap with that person, do you still think they would be just as romantically unsuccessful as you are? Since we're on IST lets take Arnold as an example. What do you think would happen if 20yo Arnold swapped with you currently? He would probably be just fine. Quit bitching and go pick some heavy shit up.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              as i see your words, you didnt experience inceldom in your life. when you experience you no longer give a fuck about philosophy or manliness. you just want to become a normal person

              You don't need surgery.

              thanks anon but i need if i want to become average looking.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No you don't.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >as i see your words, you didnt experience inceldom in your life.
                I'm here posting on IST my man. I am an incel as well, but I happen to listen to the people that know what they are talking about and can try to help you.
                >when you experience you no longer give a fuck about philosophy or manliness
                I disagree. My time getting 0 bitches has made me actually more interested in "philosophy and manliness". Being involuntarily celibate does not mean you have to be a blackpilled doomer. It is just your current state.

                outside of bodily issues, i'd say your issues are psychological. You need to stop giving a shit about your looks.. the value of a man is made up of much more.. ladies on the other hand..

                > You need to stop giving a shit about your looks.. the value of a man is made up of much more.. ladies on the other hand..
                Exactly. You are blessed to born a male. Imagine having these issues that you have with your appearance, and you were born a woman. LMAO your life would be fucking horrible. Trust me dude. Improve the things in your life that you can control. That includes your mindset as well. You got it dude. WAGMI.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >6'3
    You were in tutorial mode and still fucked up, not even god can fix your stupid ass, get out of here

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need surgery.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >objectively ugly
    >5'9''
    >started lifting and changed dramatically
    >still ugly, 0.1 likes an hour in tinder even being jacked
    >dont care, have too much to do in life to worry about a face
    life isnt the prologue of an isekai just cope and keep moving

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    outside of bodily issues, i'd say your issues are psychological. You need to stop giving a shit about your looks.. the value of a man is made up of much more.. ladies on the other hand..

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon dropped a truth bomb

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are right about this one but looks is part of the package.

      >as i see your words, you didnt experience inceldom in your life.
      I'm here posting on IST my man. I am an incel as well, but I happen to listen to the people that know what they are talking about and can try to help you.
      >when you experience you no longer give a fuck about philosophy or manliness
      I disagree. My time getting 0 bitches has made me actually more interested in "philosophy and manliness". Being involuntarily celibate does not mean you have to be a blackpilled doomer. It is just your current state.

      [...]
      > You need to stop giving a shit about your looks.. the value of a man is made up of much more.. ladies on the other hand..
      Exactly. You are blessed to born a male. Imagine having these issues that you have with your appearance, and you were born a woman. LMAO your life would be fucking horrible. Trust me dude. Improve the things in your life that you can control. That includes your mindset as well. You got it dude. WAGMI.

      >inb4 fakecel
      i meant being a virgin because of your looks by inceldom

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need therapy, you can't lift your depression away

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im on the same boat as op, tough not as extreme.
    I have begun lifiting, i just pray to god that i make it...
    >t.23 year old gay khhv

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tfw no summer of 69

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: elliot returns

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    im not even attractive and i make my gf very wet

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is she hot?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes and she's a middle eastern girl. for her to lay with a White man is very haram as she says while she's on top of me
        but this should not matter

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        she is 4'8" 327lbs

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop going on those websites. Ugly people get married all the time. Your standards are stupidly high, that's the issue.

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