He's replying to a different guy who asked the "are you natural" question though. The crustycabellero guy probably said something like "yeah he's instagram natural", as a joke. Then the roidtroony went into seethe mode and had to defend himself against the joke
>Tongue in cheek
I read it that way at first, reading through a second time, he's just being defensive while trying to laugh off being called 'instagram natural'
>Twitter screencap thread
What was the point of this thread? Yes of course roidtroons lie all the time on the internet despite being much much bigger than actual top natural bodybuilders
he's 100% serious about being natural. he's also brought up, unprompted, the fact that despite taking part in "natural" competitions he has never been tested. this is very interesting because for a fake natty the obvious course of action would have been to let people think he was tested. it's what people already assumed so he's dismissing an EASY line of defense for no gain, other than it's just the truth. a tendency to tell the truth when you don't have to and it effectively makes you look worse? that's the last thing a fake natty usually does. also the way he speaks about bodybuilding in general does not fit the fake natty patterns at all. he never shills ANYTHING except some ebooks (his own). no sponsors, no supplements, no creatine, no protein powder.
I'm leaning towards natty. there are only two muscle groups on joel kellett that set of my roidar, the chest and the triceps. given the fact that you can make gains in both of those with overlapping exercises makes that argument shrink down to effectively one muscle group that looks "too big". it's plausible that he has good genetics and religiously trains these specific muscles. really look at the rest of his body and ask yourself, is this specific muscle group unattainable? the lats, the delts, the forearms, any other muscle group? I don't think you'll find one. it really is just chest and maybe triceps.
I appreciate the analysis but once you’ve used you know. His arms are cartoonish for a natty and chest is just not possible. But it’s the entire abdomen that’s the real tell. It just has that enhanced look that’s immediately recognizable to anyone whos experienced with gear. It’s not that there aren’t natties with amazing abs, their certainly are, but he just has the undeniable 100% certainty enhanced look
not the other anon, but surely its not a reach to say that some people online are more genuine than others, and that saying someone is more genuine than another isnt just because youve formed a parasocial relationship
anon is totally ok to say that someone is more genuine than someone else i think
Steroids make men more manly, but what isn't talked about enough is estrogen, progesterone, and perhaps even prolactin make women more feminine. I see girls commenting on these hot busty, big booty models stuff all the time asking them what their gym routine is. Copying their gym routine isn't going to give them big breasts and a juicy ass (it will just give them a gross solid muscle butt). Just like copying a roidtroony's gym routine won't make you look like them. They need the hormones. Dosing estrogen and progesterone would make women grow bigger breasts and asses and they're totally clueless about it. I know an intersex girl who did just that, she was born between genders as far as genitalia goes, but had XY (male) chromosomes thus produced more testosterone than estrogen. She's been on estrogen therapy her whole life and I swear to you this is the hottest big titty b***h you'll ever see. Spitting image of Jennifer Connelly in Career Opportunities (yes I fricked her). We need to get women on estrogen so they can grow bigger breasts so we can play with them. Seeing the lengths they go with exercise and plastic surgery, I bet a lot would do that if they knew the secret.
I absolutely did and I've absolutely fricked actual trannies and would do it again. If it's hot and feminine, I'm going bi for it. Intersex girl was one of the best fricks of my life, like top 5 out of nearly a hundred bawds I've banged. Her pussy was tight as frick because it only half formed. A dick half formed as well so she basically just had a big clit they snipped off. She could've either been a dude with a micropenis and pussy under it so would never really be considered a man, or a woman. Make fun of trannies all you want but this person was actually born this way and had to go that route for the most normal life possible at that point. The results were fricking great though, God bless science and we need more monster breasts in the world.
Because they don't do it! It hasn't been established that it works yet but it obviously absolutely does. Taking birth control pills is literally taking estrogen and girls breasts grow from it. However, there's obvious risks just like with man roids. They risk infertility and overall weight gain I believe. It would be something to do low dose, preferably during development, just to give that edge of growing huge honkers and nice hips/ass.
One thing guys don't know about yet is you can totally get filler injections in your dick to make it fricking joocy. You won't find much online about it because it's just not something people do or know about yet.
Actually I got PMMA fillers in my dick. Do recommend. Everyone I know is intrigued but ultimately too scared to do it. Two sessions of 10 shots in your wiener and you're carrying around significantly more girth.
I sucked a troony wiener that had this and holy shit it was a frickin monster (you're on IST, yes some of us are actual gays). You could feel it was off though, like the actual dick was floating around inside the filler so "she" definitely overdid it. But I'm considering a small amount to cover up some curvature and make my dick more aesthetic. I don't want to do Xiaflex to correct the curvature because of the risks & it's relatively new so unknown long term effects.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I want to go the other way with it get beads or something put in a texture thing but all the body mods I've seen of that look nasty and irregular.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Did you have side effects from the PMMA? I've seen people develop sores or rash looking spots.
i've seen before that they do this in japan. some women there with insanely large anime breasts were obsessed with every way to get themselves there without surgery.
Of course there's risk, same with dosing testosterone. Some women implant balloons into their chests for bigger breasts and spend years in the gym for a bigger ass. Don't they realize there's other means that can yield better results?
Is the guy in OP's pic on progesterone because his breasts are huge. Is that what you're into, huge roidtroon man breasts like the one you posted?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lol no. I actually prefer bronze era look to the silver era bench tiddie look. But it's better to have a gym bro physique than no physique at all. If that's what makes some people lift then cool.
homie intersex is just a boy born immune to his own testosterone. They only started trooning them out a century and a half ago in the West. Jesus called them men born eunuchs. You fricked a troony my guy. You are gay.
You have no idea what intersex is. You're talking about Klinefelter syndrome. Intersex is when the genitals start developing in the womb as one thing, the at some point begin developing as another thing. They have a half dick and half pussy, literally in between sexes. Their chromosomes can be XX, XY, XXY, or very rarely XYY.
They're not eunuchs, your genitals formed in the womb the way that they did simply because the womb was either testosterone dominant or estrogen dominant. This is why high estrogen women typically have all girls and coalburning psycho c**ts are typically single mothers to boys. Intersex is when neither fully happened and the baby ends up with something in between. You had all the blueprints necessary to be a girl, even your gonads had to decide whether or not to become testes or ovaries, and it's all done by hormones while in the womb. Technically you still have everything needed which is why you can still grow breasts and why trannies have that line leading from their ass to their balls, it's a pussy trying to form but having really no way to do so because they're already past that point in development.
Most likely Swyer syndrome. Their ovaries never develop so they're like a man with no balls, they won't produce estrogen and have to be injected for treatment. They can have any level of wiener/ball development that would typically be surgically removed.
I wonder how these people got along before modern science. Probably just a lot of trooned out dudes walking around, there's probably a lot of undiagnosed cases too, all those butch chicks built like fridges are probably undiagnosed intersexes that just didn't have much of the obvious genital maldevelopment.
That "vegana" is just an unsealed scrotum. I do not care how you and doctors cope.
Hormones develop your genitals, they don't determine them. Women have their urethra below their clit, men have it on their dick, balls are not ovaries and no matter how much test you give a girl her vegana won't seal up.
Most likely Swyer syndrome. Their ovaries never develop so they're like a man with no balls, they won't produce estrogen and have to be injected for treatment. They can have any level of wiener/ball development that would typically be surgically removed.
I wonder how these people got along before modern science. Probably just a lot of trooned out dudes walking around, there's probably a lot of undiagnosed cases too, all those butch chicks built like fridges are probably undiagnosed intersexes that just didn't have much of the obvious genital maldevelopment.
>they don't determine them
They literally do in the womb. Every girl you've fricked was just a man doused in estrogen you homosexual. We all have the same initial blueprint as fetuses until hormone presence determines what the fetus will develop into once the sex organs begin their development process. You've literally fricked inverted penises IF you've even had sex, incel.
I just explained how they're not determined by hormones yet you made no attempt to refute or address this, simply reiterating your position. Anyways, you seem mad and coping about fricking dudes.
5 months ago
Anonymous
All fetuses start off female moron
You're gonna have to learn about how fetuses form on your own I'm not your fricking science teacher. There is no male sperm and female sperm, male egg and female egg. The fetus at some point goes down one path and becomes male or another and becomes female, or something goes wrong and they end up in between. There are 30 different types of intersex disorders and you thought there were only eunuchs. You're a fricking moron and you're wrong.
Not only that but you're completely diverted from the topic I brought up, which is genetically bimbofying all young females to look like webm related. I will continue in my research and social influence towards this goal.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You got it the wrong way around homosexual.
All vertebrate embryos begin developing as female - hence male nipples and androgen insensitivity syndrome.
A penis is a giant fused clitoris-urethra.
Nope, no matter how much test you give a female xx their vegana will never close up. The urethra's in a completely different place, also. You can't address these points because you can't argue against them. I don't give a shit what some lib teacher thinks, they probably say say trannies are "valid". Have fun being a homosexual who thinks they make up for by having a bimbo fetish and accusing normal married straight men who argue about sex disorders on IST incels. I've got better things to do...
5 months ago
Anonymous
Read a book you degenerate Black person troonyfricker https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/#:~:text=All%20human%20individuals—whether%20they,same%20and%20are%20phenotypically%20female.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That girl has a 10/10 body in my honest opinion.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Arguably the perfect female form. All I wanted to do was talk about bimbos and some narcissist has to come argue to make it about himself.
Note something about this girl. Mom is estrogen dominant. Brother looks like he has Klinefelters (due to mom's high estrogen). She has amazing curves (due to mom's high estrogen). She had a little brother growing up and likely heard babies crying during her development (causes to progesterone and prolactin stimulation, girls with younger siblings usually have big breasts due to hearing crying growing up). It's all just hormones bros. We can bimbofy them all.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nah you're just a gay.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You’re wasting your time arguing with anons on IST.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Gets proven wrong several times >You're npd, you're narcissist!
Woman behavior, which you will still never be.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Starting an argument where there isn't one, then continually changing the details of the topic you're arguing because you lost, then continuing to lose on the subtopics you yourself chose, then declaring victory anyway... Is that man behavior? It's literally written right above us how moronic you're being. Nobody likes people like you and yes it's a specifically defined psychological problem.
Love bimbos, simple as.
5 months ago
Anonymous
As if bimbos are on topic lol
5 months ago
Anonymous
they always have to do a spin to show off the ass. I hate women so much
5 months ago
Anonymous
Dude you literally probably flex at the gym and do that thing where you walk in tint circles doing poses.
Then why is the urethra in a different place on xy and xx?
5 months ago
Anonymous
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Nope, no matter how much test you give a female xx their vegana will never close up. The urethra's in a completely different place, also. You can't address these points because you can't argue against them. I don't give a shit what some lib teacher thinks, they probably say say trannies are "valid". Have fun being a homosexual who thinks they make up for by having a bimbo fetish and accusing normal married straight men who argue about sex disorders on IST incels. I've got better things to do...
It's in a different place because it had to grow to accomodate the penis.
Hence a woman's urethra is small while a man's extends out into the entire penis.
Next cope?
Bonus for you, nipples stay on men because the hormone to decide whether it stays as a woman or turn into a man comesbin the middle of the nipple development which is why men can't produce milk normally.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The urethra starts out in a different place. I posted photos. If you were right a man with androgen insensitivity would have a normal vegana, but instead it's a tiny dick with an open scrote.
Idk why men have nipples. Maybe to indicate wether or not they have a hormone imbalance? Maybe for aesthetics.
In any case I've posted photos proving I'm right, I genuinely don't know why you and others are so adamant we all start as female, even though the y chromosome clearly causes the formation of structures independently of test. Kinda weird.
You got it the wrong way around homosexual.
All vertebrate embryos begin developing as female - hence male nipples and androgen insensitivity syndrome.
A penis is a giant fused clitoris-urethra.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>All vertebrate embryos begin developing as female
Holy shit this has to be the most moronic board, let me finish your fricking sentence: >and then at some point either continue developing as female or shift to male, but if something goes wrong they end up intersex.
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Nope, no matter how much test you give a female xx their vegana will never close up. The urethra's in a completely different place, also. You can't address these points because you can't argue against them. I don't give a shit what some lib teacher thinks, they probably say say trannies are "valid". Have fun being a homosexual who thinks they make up for by having a bimbo fetish and accusing normal married straight men who argue about sex disorders on IST incels. I've got better things to do...
>no matter how much test you give a female xx their vegana will never close up.
Yes but their clit will grow into a dick. Point argued, you're moronic. Intersex =/= mentally ill trannies. This is a legitimate medical condition with plenty of research you can read about, don't let troony propaganda poison the waters and make you immediately write it off as invalid.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes but their clit will grow into a dick.
No it won't, it won't have a urethra on the glans unless moved by surgery. AND their vegana will still be open.
Again, the Lord defined these men as being born eunuchs, not women. Ancient people can tell the difference, we just pretend it doesn't matter now for propaganda reasons.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Explain Swyer syndrome and Jacobs syndrome mister suddenly a well versed scientist in this exact field we're talking about. You really don't think these things exist? Am I going to have to resort to posting real photos of the genitals for you to see they're actual medical disorders?
5 months ago
Anonymous
These are stages of genital formation in the womb. Top KS whatever the frick frog looking shit we all start out with, then it either becomes a dick or a pussy. At one point, your dick was split open like a pussy and a girl's pussy was long and sticking out like a dick. This is the easiest way to understand intersex disorders, hormonal imbalance messes with the chromosome designation and formation of the genitals, they end up with something in between and with hormone secretion somewhere in between.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nice drawing! I like mine better because it's more accurate.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'll do you one better! Here's photographs 🙂 now will you believe or keep on persisting in your homosexualry? God made Male and female. Male and female He created them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
that's a dog, not a human.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Unethical to do this to a human.
Starting an argument where there isn't one, then continually changing the details of the topic you're arguing because you lost, then continuing to lose on the subtopics you yourself chose, then declaring victory anyway... Is that man behavior? It's literally written right above us how moronic you're being. Nobody likes people like you and yes it's a specifically defined psychological problem.
Love bimbos, simple as.
homie I don't care, you said genitals are determined by hormones, I wanted to correct that misconception. Eventually I had to post photographic proof you're wrong. You're the one who's getting butthurt. Advocate women to take e all you want but stop spreading lies about the reality of human sexual development like a troony.
5 months ago
Anonymous
LOL@ you thinking that pic refutes me; it only supports what I said. Namely, that they have to surgically move the urethra and stitch up the vegana. As your pic shows, test can only make a very phallic vegana, it can't make a vegana into a penis. Conversely, e can't make a penis into a vegana, just keep it very small and keep the scrotum from closing. Genuinely don't know why you still don't get this. >Swyer syndrome
Already know about that. This guy
https://i.imgur.com/8BRkZ6e.jpg
homie intersex is just a boy born immune to his own testosterone. They only started trooning them out a century and a half ago in the West. Jesus called them men born eunuchs. You fricked a troony my guy. You are gay.
has swyer syndrome, and clearly looks like a guy even after a lifetime of treatment. They're men with a malfunctioning y chromosome which creates "streak genitalia". Some professionals claim that they can get pregnant, but as far as I can tell this can only happen with a chimera female who has some parts of her Swyer Syndrome brother in her ovary. >Jacob's syndrome
That's xyy. That just means they're an overly masculinized male. Do YOU know what you're talking about?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it can't make a vegana into a penis. Conversely, e can't make a penis into a vegana
No one claimed such moron. You're pulling arguments out of your malformed cooch because you have NPD and want to sound smart. I even said the gooch line trannies get can never form into a vegana. Those things have to happen at a certain stage in development within the womb. The setting of the urethra position stage you're so obsessed with also happens in the womb and can't be fricked with through hormone treatment.
5 months ago
Anonymous
look, if you were the guy posting this
https://i.imgur.com/FmQ2EpT.jpg
These are stages of genital formation in the womb. Top KS whatever the frick frog looking shit we all start out with, then it either becomes a dick or a pussy. At one point, your dick was split open like a pussy and a girl's pussy was long and sticking out like a dick. This is the easiest way to understand intersex disorders, hormonal imbalance messes with the chromosome designation and formation of the genitals, they end up with something in between and with hormone secretion somewhere in between.
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You're gonna have to learn about how fetuses form on your own I'm not your fricking science teacher. There is no male sperm and female sperm, male egg and female egg. The fetus at some point goes down one path and becomes male or another and becomes female, or something goes wrong and they end up in between. There are 30 different types of intersex disorders and you thought there were only eunuchs. You're a fricking moron and you're wrong.
Not only that but you're completely diverted from the topic I brought up, which is genetically bimbofying all young females to look like webm related. I will continue in my research and social influence towards this goal.
All fetuses start off female moron
>they don't determine them
They literally do in the womb. Every girl you've fricked was just a man doused in estrogen you homosexual. We all have the same initial blueprint as fetuses until hormone presence determines what the fetus will develop into once the sex organs begin their development process. You've literally fricked inverted penises IF you've even had sex, incel.
you're wrong. we don't all start as female, female embryos start female and male embryos start male, that cartoon is just a drawing. otherwise you're butting into our conversation Black person.
>Copying their gym routine isn't going to give them big breasts and a juicy ass (it will just give them a gross solid muscle butt).
New body trend of the big as is just eating above maintenance and do a hell of lower body training, what are you talking about? I see PAWGs the whole time at my gym and I can tell easily those women ain’t getting any substance.
Yet they all have small atrophied breasts and their ass is all muscle and feels gross. I'm not talking about making women appear more feminine by giving them man gymbutt, I'm talking about making actual hyperfeminine superbimbos.
>Steroids make men more manly
It's not manly to have shrinked balls and premature baldness. Ruining your long term health for short term social approval is in fact very feminine.
That "vegana" is just an unsealed scrotum. I do not care how you and doctors cope.
Hormones develop your genitals, they don't determine them. Women have their urethra below their clit, men have it on their dick, balls are not ovaries and no matter how much test you give a girl her vegana won't seal up.
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He explicitly said he was xy
I like how every time he answers this question it’s never a direct yes or no. He always dances around it and uses word play. Like not trying to outright lie but fluff it up in a way where he’s technically the truth.
Roidtrannies don't want others to know they're doing roids because they don't want competition, and because women are incredibly stupid and don't know he's on roids and he doesn't want a woman to not be attracted to him because he's an insecure fraud and a troony.
Everyone knows they're doing roids you have either be incredibly stupid or willing denial of their steroid usage. Then you get asked by some kid every day on everything you post "are you on steroids?". It's the equivalent of a child tugging on your sleeve and asking you if santa is real. You can either be mean (not gonna fly on social media not that i expect you to understand) or have a little fun with it.
u can see clearly this dude benches - massive breasts, trike is there, delts literally malformed, in state of agony - anterior constantly overworked rear sad and resigned, as if some muscle wasting procedure was performed on them
the clavicle and sternum chest area looks natty xD
its so weird to me why some people just throw all their principles out the window and just decide to believe person x. like they would literally never believe that physique is natty but because its the people they just decided to like and believe then all of that gets countered by it. Natural Hypertrophy for example just believes this and then GVS and who else are natural for ?????????????????? and then they call out others with significantly worse physiques to be on roids despite the actual proof being the same (not verified).
I find it bizarre these guys can lie so zealously. Logan Paul comes to mind. Anyone who does that is a sociopath in my mind. Sure the rock lies about gear but he mostly just avoids answering or changes the topic. He never says shit like “IVE BEEN TESTED MULTIPLE TIMES” or swear on his children’s lives. That mattdoesfitness guy pulls the same shit.
Meh fake natty or not I like his aesthetic even down to the late 70s clothing/photo style.
I usually think most roids deniers are in fact roids trannies but I tend to believe this guy tbh - his chest is huge but the legs and traps aren't so yeah 50/50
Thats what someone using PEDs would say, and this guy probably is, but theoretically that physique would be possible if you had really, really good genetics
his reply reads as tongue-in-cheek to me
are you taking his words at face value, OP?
what do you think "instagram natural" means?
He's replying to a different guy who asked the "are you natural" question though. The crustycabellero guy probably said something like "yeah he's instagram natural", as a joke. Then the roidtroony went into seethe mode and had to defend himself against the joke
ah I see
>Tongue in cheek
I read it that way at first, reading through a second time, he's just being defensive while trying to laugh off being called 'instagram natural'
Most people attach their own emotions to text these days.
>Twitter screencap thread
What was the point of this thread? Yes of course roidtroons lie all the time on the internet despite being much much bigger than actual top natural bodybuilders
Yea that's twitter moron. He seems more genuine the other roidcels just surprised he'd blatantly gaslight us.
Twitter Instagram it’s all the same garbage, it doesn’t belong here and you should kys now
U must be fun at parties
Kys
he's 100% serious about being natural. he's also brought up, unprompted, the fact that despite taking part in "natural" competitions he has never been tested. this is very interesting because for a fake natty the obvious course of action would have been to let people think he was tested. it's what people already assumed so he's dismissing an EASY line of defense for no gain, other than it's just the truth. a tendency to tell the truth when you don't have to and it effectively makes you look worse? that's the last thing a fake natty usually does. also the way he speaks about bodybuilding in general does not fit the fake natty patterns at all. he never shills ANYTHING except some ebooks (his own). no sponsors, no supplements, no creatine, no protein powder.
I'm leaning towards natty. there are only two muscle groups on joel kellett that set of my roidar, the chest and the triceps. given the fact that you can make gains in both of those with overlapping exercises makes that argument shrink down to effectively one muscle group that looks "too big". it's plausible that he has good genetics and religiously trains these specific muscles. really look at the rest of his body and ask yourself, is this specific muscle group unattainable? the lats, the delts, the forearms, any other muscle group? I don't think you'll find one. it really is just chest and maybe triceps.
I appreciate the analysis but once you’ve used you know. His arms are cartoonish for a natty and chest is just not possible. But it’s the entire abdomen that’s the real tell. It just has that enhanced look that’s immediately recognizable to anyone whos experienced with gear. It’s not that there aren’t natties with amazing abs, their certainly are, but he just has the undeniable 100% certainty enhanced look
I want to believe lol
The rest of his body may be a lot smaller than his chest and tris/bis but he's just so lean in all his photos.
>genuine
parasocial idiot
not the other anon, but surely its not a reach to say that some people online are more genuine than others, and that saying someone is more genuine than another isnt just because youve formed a parasocial relationship
anon is totally ok to say that someone is more genuine than someone else i think
Lmao, isn't it time for bed grandpa? Surprised you even have internet access
Is that the best you can come up with zoomBlack person?
He has a legitimate point though. IST has always been shit but lazy social media reposting has eroded the quality drastically these past few years
> he didn't know Instagram
You are pure. Don't go to IST tomorrow.
I'll find him and politely ask him for a pee sample.
Just for testing, right?
I believe him honestly.
As least my bulge is bigger
Steroids make men more manly, but what isn't talked about enough is estrogen, progesterone, and perhaps even prolactin make women more feminine. I see girls commenting on these hot busty, big booty models stuff all the time asking them what their gym routine is. Copying their gym routine isn't going to give them big breasts and a juicy ass (it will just give them a gross solid muscle butt). Just like copying a roidtroony's gym routine won't make you look like them. They need the hormones. Dosing estrogen and progesterone would make women grow bigger breasts and asses and they're totally clueless about it. I know an intersex girl who did just that, she was born between genders as far as genitalia goes, but had XY (male) chromosomes thus produced more testosterone than estrogen. She's been on estrogen therapy her whole life and I swear to you this is the hottest big titty b***h you'll ever see. Spitting image of Jennifer Connelly in Career Opportunities (yes I fricked her). We need to get women on estrogen so they can grow bigger breasts so we can play with them. Seeing the lengths they go with exercise and plastic surgery, I bet a lot would do that if they knew the secret.
So you fricked a troony? Nice.
I absolutely did and I've absolutely fricked actual trannies and would do it again. If it's hot and feminine, I'm going bi for it. Intersex girl was one of the best fricks of my life, like top 5 out of nearly a hundred bawds I've banged. Her pussy was tight as frick because it only half formed. A dick half formed as well so she basically just had a big clit they snipped off. She could've either been a dude with a micropenis and pussy under it so would never really be considered a man, or a woman. Make fun of trannies all you want but this person was actually born this way and had to go that route for the most normal life possible at that point. The results were fricking great though, God bless science and we need more monster breasts in the world.
homie u fight fricked an unsealed scrotum
My brother I salute you
Also another obvious example, trannies use estrogen and grow breasts. Why can't an actual girl use estrogen and make her existing breasts bigger?
This. I've been trying to Google this for ages, but it keeps bringing mtf trannies rather than reports or questions of cis women taking est
Because they don't do it! It hasn't been established that it works yet but it obviously absolutely does. Taking birth control pills is literally taking estrogen and girls breasts grow from it. However, there's obvious risks just like with man roids. They risk infertility and overall weight gain I believe. It would be something to do low dose, preferably during development, just to give that edge of growing huge honkers and nice hips/ass.
One thing guys don't know about yet is you can totally get filler injections in your dick to make it fricking joocy. You won't find much online about it because it's just not something people do or know about yet.
Actually I got PMMA fillers in my dick. Do recommend. Everyone I know is intrigued but ultimately too scared to do it. Two sessions of 10 shots in your wiener and you're carrying around significantly more girth.
The fact you have to do this in the first place explains everything I need to know
I sucked a troony wiener that had this and holy shit it was a frickin monster (you're on IST, yes some of us are actual gays). You could feel it was off though, like the actual dick was floating around inside the filler so "she" definitely overdid it. But I'm considering a small amount to cover up some curvature and make my dick more aesthetic. I don't want to do Xiaflex to correct the curvature because of the risks & it's relatively new so unknown long term effects.
I want to go the other way with it get beads or something put in a texture thing but all the body mods I've seen of that look nasty and irregular.
Did you have side effects from the PMMA? I've seen people develop sores or rash looking spots.
i've seen before that they do this in japan. some women there with insanely large anime breasts were obsessed with every way to get themselves there without surgery.
Very much increases cancer risk
Of course there's risk, same with dosing testosterone. Some women implant balloons into their chests for bigger breasts and spend years in the gym for a bigger ass. Don't they realize there's other means that can yield better results?
If you're a female, getting more estrogen wont make your breasts bigger unless there was a reason you didn't get enough of the hormone during puberty.
Proof? Why do they bloat up on birth control then and why do troons get breast growth?
Bimbos are always on topic. Don't make me post another webm of Laura's massive teen mama milkies.
Because birth control and troon drugs have progesterone, not estrogen, my sick coomer friend.
36 eggs a day, lots of dairy and red meat, lots of fruit, some vegetables. Probably dbol but a boy can dream.
Is the guy in OP's pic on progesterone because his breasts are huge. Is that what you're into, huge roidtroon man breasts like the one you posted?
Lol no. I actually prefer bronze era look to the silver era bench tiddie look. But it's better to have a gym bro physique than no physique at all. If that's what makes some people lift then cool.
homie intersex is just a boy born immune to his own testosterone. They only started trooning them out a century and a half ago in the West. Jesus called them men born eunuchs. You fricked a troony my guy. You are gay.
You have no idea what intersex is. You're talking about Klinefelter syndrome. Intersex is when the genitals start developing in the womb as one thing, the at some point begin developing as another thing. They have a half dick and half pussy, literally in between sexes. Their chromosomes can be XX, XY, XXY, or very rarely XYY.
They're not eunuchs, your genitals formed in the womb the way that they did simply because the womb was either testosterone dominant or estrogen dominant. This is why high estrogen women typically have all girls and coalburning psycho c**ts are typically single mothers to boys. Intersex is when neither fully happened and the baby ends up with something in between. You had all the blueprints necessary to be a girl, even your gonads had to decide whether or not to become testes or ovaries, and it's all done by hormones while in the womb. Technically you still have everything needed which is why you can still grow breasts and why trannies have that line leading from their ass to their balls, it's a pussy trying to form but having really no way to do so because they're already past that point in development.
Most likely Swyer syndrome. Their ovaries never develop so they're like a man with no balls, they won't produce estrogen and have to be injected for treatment. They can have any level of wiener/ball development that would typically be surgically removed.
I wonder how these people got along before modern science. Probably just a lot of trooned out dudes walking around, there's probably a lot of undiagnosed cases too, all those butch chicks built like fridges are probably undiagnosed intersexes that just didn't have much of the obvious genital maldevelopment.
That "vegana" is just an unsealed scrotum. I do not care how you and doctors cope.
Hormones develop your genitals, they don't determine them. Women have their urethra below their clit, men have it on their dick, balls are not ovaries and no matter how much test you give a girl her vegana won't seal up.
He explicitly said he was xy
>they don't determine them
They literally do in the womb. Every girl you've fricked was just a man doused in estrogen you homosexual. We all have the same initial blueprint as fetuses until hormone presence determines what the fetus will develop into once the sex organs begin their development process. You've literally fricked inverted penises IF you've even had sex, incel.
I just explained how they're not determined by hormones yet you made no attempt to refute or address this, simply reiterating your position. Anyways, you seem mad and coping about fricking dudes.
You're gonna have to learn about how fetuses form on your own I'm not your fricking science teacher. There is no male sperm and female sperm, male egg and female egg. The fetus at some point goes down one path and becomes male or another and becomes female, or something goes wrong and they end up in between. There are 30 different types of intersex disorders and you thought there were only eunuchs. You're a fricking moron and you're wrong.
Not only that but you're completely diverted from the topic I brought up, which is genetically bimbofying all young females to look like webm related. I will continue in my research and social influence towards this goal.
Nope, no matter how much test you give a female xx their vegana will never close up. The urethra's in a completely different place, also. You can't address these points because you can't argue against them. I don't give a shit what some lib teacher thinks, they probably say say trannies are "valid". Have fun being a homosexual who thinks they make up for by having a bimbo fetish and accusing normal married straight men who argue about sex disorders on IST incels. I've got better things to do...
Read a book you degenerate Black person troonyfricker https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/#:~:text=All%20human%20individuals—whether%20they,same%20and%20are%20phenotypically%20female.
That girl has a 10/10 body in my honest opinion.
Arguably the perfect female form. All I wanted to do was talk about bimbos and some narcissist has to come argue to make it about himself.
Note something about this girl. Mom is estrogen dominant. Brother looks like he has Klinefelters (due to mom's high estrogen). She has amazing curves (due to mom's high estrogen). She had a little brother growing up and likely heard babies crying during her development (causes to progesterone and prolactin stimulation, girls with younger siblings usually have big breasts due to hearing crying growing up). It's all just hormones bros. We can bimbofy them all.
Nah you're just a gay.
You’re wasting your time arguing with anons on IST.
>Gets proven wrong several times
>You're npd, you're narcissist!
Woman behavior, which you will still never be.
Starting an argument where there isn't one, then continually changing the details of the topic you're arguing because you lost, then continuing to lose on the subtopics you yourself chose, then declaring victory anyway... Is that man behavior? It's literally written right above us how moronic you're being. Nobody likes people like you and yes it's a specifically defined psychological problem.
Love bimbos, simple as.
As if bimbos are on topic lol
they always have to do a spin to show off the ass. I hate women so much
Dude you literally probably flex at the gym and do that thing where you walk in tint circles doing poses.
All fetuses start off female moron
Then why is the urethra in a different place on xy and xx?
It's in a different place because it had to grow to accomodate the penis.
Hence a woman's urethra is small while a man's extends out into the entire penis.
Next cope?
Bonus for you, nipples stay on men because the hormone to decide whether it stays as a woman or turn into a man comesbin the middle of the nipple development which is why men can't produce milk normally.
The urethra starts out in a different place. I posted photos. If you were right a man with androgen insensitivity would have a normal vegana, but instead it's a tiny dick with an open scrote.
Idk why men have nipples. Maybe to indicate wether or not they have a hormone imbalance? Maybe for aesthetics.
In any case I've posted photos proving I'm right, I genuinely don't know why you and others are so adamant we all start as female, even though the y chromosome clearly causes the formation of structures independently of test. Kinda weird.
You got it the wrong way around homosexual.
All vertebrate embryos begin developing as female - hence male nipples and androgen insensitivity syndrome.
A penis is a giant fused clitoris-urethra.
>All vertebrate embryos begin developing as female
Holy shit this has to be the most moronic board, let me finish your fricking sentence:
>and then at some point either continue developing as female or shift to male, but if something goes wrong they end up intersex.
>no matter how much test you give a female xx their vegana will never close up.
Yes but their clit will grow into a dick. Point argued, you're moronic. Intersex =/= mentally ill trannies. This is a legitimate medical condition with plenty of research you can read about, don't let troony propaganda poison the waters and make you immediately write it off as invalid.
>Yes but their clit will grow into a dick.
No it won't, it won't have a urethra on the glans unless moved by surgery. AND their vegana will still be open.
Again, the Lord defined these men as being born eunuchs, not women. Ancient people can tell the difference, we just pretend it doesn't matter now for propaganda reasons.
Explain Swyer syndrome and Jacobs syndrome mister suddenly a well versed scientist in this exact field we're talking about. You really don't think these things exist? Am I going to have to resort to posting real photos of the genitals for you to see they're actual medical disorders?
These are stages of genital formation in the womb. Top KS whatever the frick frog looking shit we all start out with, then it either becomes a dick or a pussy. At one point, your dick was split open like a pussy and a girl's pussy was long and sticking out like a dick. This is the easiest way to understand intersex disorders, hormonal imbalance messes with the chromosome designation and formation of the genitals, they end up with something in between and with hormone secretion somewhere in between.
Nice drawing! I like mine better because it's more accurate.
I'll do you one better! Here's photographs 🙂 now will you believe or keep on persisting in your homosexualry? God made Male and female. Male and female He created them.
that's a dog, not a human.
Unethical to do this to a human.
homie I don't care, you said genitals are determined by hormones, I wanted to correct that misconception. Eventually I had to post photographic proof you're wrong. You're the one who's getting butthurt. Advocate women to take e all you want but stop spreading lies about the reality of human sexual development like a troony.
LOL@ you thinking that pic refutes me; it only supports what I said. Namely, that they have to surgically move the urethra and stitch up the vegana. As your pic shows, test can only make a very phallic vegana, it can't make a vegana into a penis. Conversely, e can't make a penis into a vegana, just keep it very small and keep the scrotum from closing. Genuinely don't know why you still don't get this.
>Swyer syndrome
Already know about that. This guy
has swyer syndrome, and clearly looks like a guy even after a lifetime of treatment. They're men with a malfunctioning y chromosome which creates "streak genitalia". Some professionals claim that they can get pregnant, but as far as I can tell this can only happen with a chimera female who has some parts of her Swyer Syndrome brother in her ovary.
>Jacob's syndrome
That's xyy. That just means they're an overly masculinized male. Do YOU know what you're talking about?
>it can't make a vegana into a penis. Conversely, e can't make a penis into a vegana
No one claimed such moron. You're pulling arguments out of your malformed cooch because you have NPD and want to sound smart. I even said the gooch line trannies get can never form into a vegana. Those things have to happen at a certain stage in development within the womb. The setting of the urethra position stage you're so obsessed with also happens in the womb and can't be fricked with through hormone treatment.
look, if you were the guy posting this
you're wrong. we don't all start as female, female embryos start female and male embryos start male, that cartoon is just a drawing. otherwise you're butting into our conversation Black person.
>why trannies have that line leading from their ass to their balls,
Every guy has that moron.
>Copying their gym routine isn't going to give them big breasts and a juicy ass (it will just give them a gross solid muscle butt).
New body trend of the big as is just eating above maintenance and do a hell of lower body training, what are you talking about? I see PAWGs the whole time at my gym and I can tell easily those women ain’t getting any substance.
Yet they all have small atrophied breasts and their ass is all muscle and feels gross. I'm not talking about making women appear more feminine by giving them man gymbutt, I'm talking about making actual hyperfeminine superbimbos.
who?
Yandex says Lauren Pisciotta. Why the frick do all women do this to their lips now?
Because women are stupid and impressionable.
>Steroids make men more manly
It's not manly to have shrinked balls and premature baldness. Ruining your long term health for short term social approval is in fact very feminine.
>Comes off of roids
>Balls are normal
>Doesn't have hairloss gene
Lmao cope and seethe homosexual.
no one believes you
not him btw
>Dosing estrogen and progesterone
Thats just contraceptive pills, and most women already take those.
They're only taking a small dose, like being on ERT. We need to get them full blown blasting to get some monster titty growth.
>XY
>She
Delusion
thoughbeit what about complete androgen insensitivity syndrome
See
i saw it and it changes nothing
What’s worse fake natty roidtroony or an actual troony?
YO LOOK AT DIS homie'S ARMS
WTF
I like how every time he answers this question it’s never a direct yes or no. He always dances around it and uses word play. Like not trying to outright lie but fluff it up in a way where he’s technically the truth.
Well one is a statement you're incriminating yourself with in public the other is trying to tell people without doing that. If you know you know.
Roidtrannies don't want others to know they're doing roids because they don't want competition, and because women are incredibly stupid and don't know he's on roids and he doesn't want a woman to not be attracted to him because he's an insecure fraud and a troony.
Everyone knows they're doing roids you have either be incredibly stupid or willing denial of their steroid usage. Then you get asked by some kid every day on everything you post "are you on steroids?". It's the equivalent of a child tugging on your sleeve and asking you if santa is real. You can either be mean (not gonna fly on social media not that i expect you to understand) or have a little fun with it.
Why his breasts are so big tho???
>b***h breasts
yeah bro he's all natural XDXDDXD
there is no bigger meme in bodybuilding than chest. Fricking look at this idiot.
big true. chest training is dumb
natty my ass
if he truly was natty then he could easily become mr olympia on roids and make millions
>i don't use roids
>i don't train
Guess which one is the truth.
u can see clearly this dude benches - massive breasts, trike is there, delts literally malformed, in state of agony - anterior constantly overworked rear sad and resigned, as if some muscle wasting procedure was performed on them
the clavicle and sternum chest area looks natty xD
its so weird to me why some people just throw all their principles out the window and just decide to believe person x. like they would literally never believe that physique is natty but because its the people they just decided to like and believe then all of that gets countered by it. Natural Hypertrophy for example just believes this and then GVS and who else are natural for ?????????????????? and then they call out others with significantly worse physiques to be on roids despite the actual proof being the same (not verified).
What is sarcasm, Alex?
He also swore on his daughters life that he’s natty.
Yea
I find it bizarre these guys can lie so zealously. Logan Paul comes to mind. Anyone who does that is a sociopath in my mind. Sure the rock lies about gear but he mostly just avoids answering or changes the topic. He never says shit like “IVE BEEN TESTED MULTIPLE TIMES” or swear on his children’s lives. That mattdoesfitness guy pulls the same shit.
He could be natty. I look like him and I’m natty.
hey joel, how's it going? any videos coming up?
Is this the Arnold larper guy? Shows how Arnold remains unmatched. Despite trying to emulate the massive chest he ended up with boobs
Arnie's oecs were arguably boobs in some old side profile shots
Looks natty to me, everyone is just jelly.
Meh fake natty or not I like his aesthetic even down to the late 70s clothing/photo style.
I usually think most roids deniers are in fact roids trannies but I tend to believe this guy tbh - his chest is huge but the legs and traps aren't so yeah 50/50
what's his cycle
Thats what someone using PEDs would say, and this guy probably is, but theoretically that physique would be possible if you had really, really good genetics
>I don't even use supplements
He's had a well documented journey though, he legit doesn't use anything.
He types like a homosexual Black person.