I fucking hate pull-ups/chin-ups. I can't do more than 8-9 per set (which 10kg vest). Are they really necessary and important?

I fucking hate pull-ups/chin-ups. I can't do more than 8-9 per set (which 10kg vest).

Are they really necessary and important?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are they really necessary and important?
    Nobody tell him

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this some bragging attempt? If you can't do more than 20 pull ups then don't use a vest

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My approach is different. I prefer heavy weights but less reps, which is better if you wanna build muscle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just git gud then

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How tho?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >can't do more than 8-9
        >using weights
        >prefers lower reps and high weight
        I don't understand what your complaint is. Use more weight?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying that's bad
          Fuck you humblebragging fag

          Wait, wait? I thought 8-9reps is NOTHING....

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depends on form. Had some woman claim she could do 50. Some people do Kippings and call them pull-ups. Even for people doing real pull-ups, half reps are easier than full reps. Anyway, it's hard to tell how many real, proper form pull-ups people can do without looking at a video.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am certain my form sucks with weighted vest. Without it probably better. Can do 20 per set without vest and proper form.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But you added weight with the sole purpose of decreasing rep count... What do you want?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's bullshist.
        Lower reps trains strength.
        The more reps you do, the more hypertrophic the training is gonna be (until ~30 reps).
        Everything between 5 and 30 is gonna grow your muscle, while the higher reps are mostly more proftable for making the muscle grow bigger.
        The lower the reps, the more it's gonna train your nervous system to get stronger.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can do 34 reps bodyweight and 8 reps with 45 attached.

          IMO, high rep bodyweight sets will make you better at high reps (endurance improves).

          High weight low reps will make you better at high weight low reps ( you will get stronger with heavier weight on the dip belt).

          There is some minor strength transfer between the 2 modes of training, but whichever you train more is what you will get better at.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            based pull-up pepe

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Everything between 5 and 30 is gonna grow your muscle, while the higher reps are mostly more proftable for making the muscle grow bigger.
          What did he mean by this

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're considered important because they're a good-ish compound exercise and can be done literally anywhere.
    If you truly hate them, then don't bother and look for something you actually enjoy that gets all muscle groups that you'd miss out on otherwise. No lift is irreplaceable, and motivation is a big part of succeeding.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have to use proper programming now. Your gains wont come easy anymore. Try this method out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya_XbEMDEeI&t=261s

    In your case you would probably be starting with 15 or 20kg for 3x3

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better explanation of the programming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LYLY8fz4mc&t=108s

      Its basically step loading

      you start with 15kg
      each of these are 1 week

      15kg 3 sets of 3
      15kg 4 sets of 3
      15kg 5 sets of 3
      deload if need

      Then you add 1 rep so it becomes
      15kg 3 sets of 4
      15kg 4 sets of 4
      15kg 5 sets of 4
      deload

      Add rep
      15kg 3 sets of 5
      15kg 4 sets of 5
      15kg 5 sets of 5

      Boom, add 10kg and go up to 25kg 3x3 and start the process over.
      Rest 3-5 minutes between sets.
      Do it 2 times per week, you can use one heavy session with chin up/neutral grip and one lighter session with pull up grip and like 5kg less.
      Doing it my self its pretty fun and its working. Also works for other compounds too of course

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cheers bro.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better explanation of the programming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LYLY8fz4mc&t=108s

      Its basically step loading

      you start with 15kg
      each of these are 1 week

      15kg 3 sets of 3
      15kg 4 sets of 3
      15kg 5 sets of 3
      deload if need

      Then you add 1 rep so it becomes
      15kg 3 sets of 4
      15kg 4 sets of 4
      15kg 5 sets of 4
      deload

      Add rep
      15kg 3 sets of 5
      15kg 4 sets of 5
      15kg 5 sets of 5

      Boom, add 10kg and go up to 25kg 3x3 and start the process over.
      Rest 3-5 minutes between sets.
      Do it 2 times per week, you can use one heavy session with chin up/neutral grip and one lighter session with pull up grip and like 5kg less.
      Doing it my self its pretty fun and its working. Also works for other compounds too of course

      can you do other exercises on pull days when applying this method? like curls, rows and shit? won't it interfere with the progress?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    9 reps is already way too much for a compound lift like that. Add more weight, buy a dip belt moron.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just get better form.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Less reps, more sets. I always do 15 sets of 5 with 30 sec break

      Also this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >15 sets of 5 with 30 sec break

        Nobody got time for that lmao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You dont have 10-15 minutes for back strength 2-3 times a week?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only two ways to get a better back (or better activation).
    1. Go the exceptionally skinny route, you eventually outperform the weight you're carrying.
    2. Extremely strict programming and form.

    Back workouts are easily the hardest compound exercises hands down, nothing comes close.
    You're trying to fight against evolution and strengthen muscles that were never meant to activate in such a way at this weight group.
    So for most people if they add weight, the exercise just stops. The muscles will not activate.
    You'll have to get a dip belt or a vest that adds weight to it. You'll need to find the rep amount for adding the new weight and track it near perfectly.
    otherwise you'll just be stuck again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You're trying to fight against evolution and strengthen muscles that were never meant to activate in such a way at this weight group.
      ???

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You're trying to fight against evolution and strengthen muscles that were never meant to activate in such a way at this weight group.
      That's the whole point of lifting??

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're DYEL at pull-ups, just say that.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are pull-ups necessary?

    Idk brah, see attached for related. That's my workout from yesterday. I did 90 pull-ups with bodyweight (BW) before I did weighted pull-ups.

    For my weighted sets, I did 45 lb for 4 reps followed by sets of 2. Dropped the weight to 25 lb, did a few more sets. Finished off with more bodyweight pull-ups.

    Also did some OHP with barbell.

    I'm currently at 163lb bodyweight at height of 5'9". Yesterday was my upper body day. Today is my run day, I'm going to try to hit 13+ miles outside at a 8:30 pace or better. It may take around 90 minutes of outdoor running.

    I recommend you try running, it will help you lose weight, which will make pull-ups easier. Try weighted pull-ups, it will make bodyweight feel easier.

    As you can see, my first set of pull-ups I did 29 reps. Most I've done before was 34 in a row a few weeks ago. I would like to hit 50 consecutive by the end of the 2022 year. That's my goal.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I recommend you try running

      I am running 3 times per week already. 40 mins = 7km.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Congratulations. Keep up the great work brother.

        I'm so proud of you. We need more runners in this world. I love to run.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I love to run.

          Same. It's meditative and clears the mind.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      im curious:
      1) How do the rest of your workouts look? I'm a big fan of just grinding 1-2 exercises each session.
      2) How do you look? Would you be so kind as to provide a picture of your body?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm natty, and I'm not very big bro.

        I'm only 164 lb at 5'9" but I have my full six-pack.

        I honestly truly recommend more people to take pullups and weighted pullups more seriously. You can get a dip belt with chain for $30 off Amazon.

        Start with 10 lb on the chain, try to do as many as you can. As you get stronger, slowly keep adding more weight. Your vtaper will explode almost overnight. Trust me, as you get better at pull-ups your lats will grow, and they will grow FAST. Take a progress picture before you start, take another picture of your back 3 weeks later. You're welcome.

        I train pullups 4 to 5 times a week. Sometimes I'll do mostly weighted, sometimes only bodyweight. Just make sure you push a to 110% effort on every single set. 1 minute to 2 minutes between sets. The more volume of the more intensity the better. As you get stronger, keel adding weight to your dip belt.

        Progressive overload brother! Wishing you all the best.

        Kind Regards
        Anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pic related from 2 days ago. I mostly do heavy seated OHP and weighted pullups. I don't do bench press very often, cause my chest is already huge. I'm mostly focusing on growing my shoulders and my lats.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          For my workouts;

          I do 1 day upper: pullups, OHP, bench press (sometimes if I have the energy for it), seated rows with cable, lateral raises, front raises, rear delt flies, biceps curls, tricep rope pushdowns

          Leg day: squats. That's it. I just go heavy as fuck in barbell squats, for as many sets as I can until I'm exhausted and can't feel like legs. Finish with hamstring curls.

          Cardio day: put on my running shoes and go for a run outside. I enjoy running longer distance and I love to run outdoors. I'll run for 13 to 15 miles at a 8:30 to 9:00 per mile pace. It might take 2 hours upto 2.5 hours to finish. I don't do anything else on my cardio DayZ strictly running outdoors. My favorite day of the week.

          I try to do my run atleast 3 times a week (40 to 45 mile week), but if I feel really burnt out that week I'll only run twice a week (30 mile week).

          Having a really great pair of running shoes will make a huge difference bro

          Black Hawk Down vibes, or I guess you’re the captain now, right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        For my workouts;

        I do 1 day upper: pullups, OHP, bench press (sometimes if I have the energy for it), seated rows with cable, lateral raises, front raises, rear delt flies, biceps curls, tricep rope pushdowns

        Leg day: squats. That's it. I just go heavy as fuck in barbell squats, for as many sets as I can until I'm exhausted and can't feel like legs. Finish with hamstring curls.

        Cardio day: put on my running shoes and go for a run outside. I enjoy running longer distance and I love to run outdoors. I'll run for 13 to 15 miles at a 8:30 to 9:00 per mile pace. It might take 2 hours upto 2.5 hours to finish. I don't do anything else on my cardio DayZ strictly running outdoors. My favorite day of the week.

        I try to do my run atleast 3 times a week (40 to 45 mile week), but if I feel really burnt out that week I'll only run twice a week (30 mile week).

        Having a really great pair of running shoes will make a huge difference bro

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >implying that's bad
    Fuck you humblebragging fag

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love pullups and chinups but I still hate pushups with a passion.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are the single most important lift for your back. Dips are the most important lift for your chest and arms. Squats for legs. When I started i used to do 1 pull up, 3 dips, and 6 squats over and over and over again. Eventually i got better on all three after 1 year of that routine. I also never pushed myself and tried to consistently do them every day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every day
      ngmi

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I workout every day and take a rest day during major holidays like Christmas/Easter/4th of July

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post body
          (I'm genuinely curious)

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you feel the need to do more per set?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you want any decent back development, then yes, suck it up.

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