i have literally never trained harder in my life and have been fasting?

i have literally never trained harder in my life and have been fasting / avoiding fried/greasy foods for the past month, but ive gained like 4lb. what the fuck guys

im doing high intensity interval training 6 days a week, lifting 3 days a week, drinking a shit load of water, and skipping a meal here and there. what gives?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're eating too many calories.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      man thats crazy to me im definitely scaling and weighing out all my food and calculating my macros :/

      i usually do a protein shake for breakfast, chicken salad for lunch, and 3/4 cup brown rice, chicken breast, and black beans for dinner. im barely cracking 1500 calories. maybe this is too little for a 6' 200lb man that works out intensely. am i starving my body and not getting the macros i need to fuel the process of weight loss ?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I swear I'm gaining weight while eating 1500 calories
        You are eating vastly more than 1500 calories per day. If you were eating 1500 calories daily and never deviating you'd be losing weight every single week, especially if you were working out as you claim.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you are eating more than you think you are

          shit i guess ill cut more, but im literally only eating 2 portioned meals a day idek how to eat less

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I doubt that. You're consuming far more fat or carbs than you either claim or think you are.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              my intake looks like this

              breakfast: protein shake (1 cup almond milk, 2 scoops protein powder)

              lunch: chicken salad

              dinner: 3/4 cup brown rice, 6oz chicken breast, and a cup or two of black beans (i often leave some on the plate)

              any pointers? where should i cut or what should i be doing. ive been avoiding all fried food and the only carbs im eating is the brown rice basically

              might be the copium talking, but i think the scale is reflecting the muscle ive put on

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are not gaining weight while working out and only eating 1500 calories per day. Full stop. If you eat less than your TDEE you lose weight.
                How many calories in the almond milk you're drinking?
                How many calories in the salad dressing on your salad?
                Are you sure you're not just here lying on the internet?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                almond milk is 80 calories a cup, i go light on the dressing so less than the 94cal serving. im measuring pretty meticulously and making my own food. i am trying my best to be honest with my IST bros and myself so i can actually get shredded. what do i gain from sperging out on the internet and lying

                If this is actually your diet, the only explanation is that you have some kind of hormonal disorder. You should definitely go see a doc and have your test levels checked.

                The only other explanation is if you're retaining water, but that's too much weight fluctuation to be likely unless you were dehydrated and took a dump before your first weigh in, and downed half a gallon before your last.

                i have had a suHispanicion about a hormonal disorder because i grow like no body hair, literally low test. im moving in a month so im going to get a new doctor and see whats up

                Not OP but i had the same issue with losing for the first 6 weeks or so, and then the last 2-3 weeks i dropped 5lbs or so. admittedly i drank way too much and didn't cut my calories enough but i definitely was in a deficit.

                is it possible that because fat carries more calories than fat that it being burned could lead to increased weight when lifting heavy?

                im glad someone can relate to this. i bulked for about a year and put on a lot of good weight, but this cut is just not fucking with me

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are probably constipated, have you also not taken a shit in a couple weeks?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                again, not OP, but i was constipated the last few days so i ate like 200 calories in fritos and cheez its to grease my insides a little bit and it helped lol i think eating way too much lean protein caused it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                are your lifts getting stronger? on a weekly basis, or is it taking a while?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, id say i’m consistently going up with weights. recently hit 55lb dumb bell press actually

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                baby wieghts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If this is actually your diet, the only explanation is that you have some kind of hormonal disorder. You should definitely go see a doc and have your test levels checked.

                The only other explanation is if you're retaining water, but that's too much weight fluctuation to be likely unless you were dehydrated and took a dump before your first weigh in, and downed half a gallon before your last.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not OP but i had the same issue with losing for the first 6 weeks or so, and then the last 2-3 weeks i dropped 5lbs or so. admittedly i drank way too much and didn't cut my calories enough but i definitely was in a deficit.

                is it possible that because fat carries more calories than fat that it being burned could lead to increased weight when lifting heavy?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                is that 3/4 cup rice dry or cooked
                big difference in calorie content right there

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                dry. should i kms?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah probably

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                is that 3/4 cup rice dry or cooked
                big difference in calorie content right there

                So breakfast is 250-350 kcal
                Lunch is anywhere between 100-500 kcal
                Dinner is 500+280+230/460 (for one/two cups respectively). You need to measure better.
                Even without adding calorie heavy dressings/seasonings, you can easily hit 2200 kcal a day with your diet.
                And if you eat packaged foods, remember that nutrition labels mislead and lie as much as they can.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This dude eats rice and wonders why he's gaining weight. Kek

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I hit a plateau for what felt like forever and it was mostly because of my portions of carbs like rice. Nothing wrong with rice as long as you don't overdo it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Skip breakfast, drink black coffee

                Chicken salad or a salad with chicken in it? If the former, cut that shit out right now, if the latter, you’re cheese and dressing is probably way more than you’re calculating.

                rice means carbs, stop. Chicken or other white proteins/fish and green vegetables.

                Also, you’re not doing enough cardio. Workout to maintain a heart rate in theb160-170 BPM range for an hour daily, not cover a distance.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you measuring your food with a scale?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf buddy, 1500 calories is a small meal, how do you eat that in day
        Add pop and stuff to your meals

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >1500 calories is a small meal
          It's half a fucking little caesars pepperoni pizza.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Says there's 1600 calories in a large baconator combo...... usually leaves me feeling hungry

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i’ve read maintenance for my height and weight is like 2200-2500 so i’m trying to cut enough to lose at least 1lb a week, but maybe i’m overdoing it?

          You are probably constipated, have you also not taken a shit in a couple weeks?

          nah i be shitting

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you are working out, and 200 lbs, your maintenance calorie numbers should be 3000+

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              no fuckin way dude that’s insane. should i cut to 2500 then to lose weight in this scenario? is it possible im under eating and my body is conserving fat as an energy source?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              nah that cant be accurate. i work out 6 days a week (not a ton of cardio but 3-4x for 30-60 min) and 3kcal would make me fat. it has to be closer to 2200-2500 for someone 200-210

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am eating 1200 to 1500 calories per day right now, I rarely have any hunger.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        eat less u retard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >man thats crazy to me im definitely scaling and weighing out all my food and calculating my macros :/
        Be specific about your macros and calories and activity levels. All other then that is just speculation that will lead to the wrong conclusions because you are leaving out the details that actually matters

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah bro you are eating too little thats totally why you are not losing weight bro that's literally the cheat code africans do to defeat hunger

        no wonder they are all so fucking fat its because they dont eat you nailed it man phew how has no one ever though of this before? should win a noble prize

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      man thats crazy to me im definitely scaling and weighing out all my food and calculating my macros :/

      i usually do a protein shake for breakfast, chicken salad for lunch, and 3/4 cup brown rice, chicken breast, and black beans for dinner. im barely cracking 1500 calories. maybe this is too little for a 6' 200lb man that works out intensely. am i starving my body and not getting the macros i need to fuel the process of weight loss ?

      This is a lie. You're not. You're measuring shit incorrectly and/or then slathering on mayo or other bullshit and pretending like it's not.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep.

      man thats crazy to me im definitely scaling and weighing out all my food and calculating my macros :/

      i usually do a protein shake for breakfast, chicken salad for lunch, and 3/4 cup brown rice, chicken breast, and black beans for dinner. im barely cracking 1500 calories. maybe this is too little for a 6' 200lb man that works out intensely. am i starving my body and not getting the macros i need to fuel the process of weight loss ?

      >im definitely scaling and weighing out all my food and calculating my macros
      You're clearly a mathlet then.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're eating too much, obviously. Retard.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nattybros I don't feel so good

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    idk if im high off copium but i feel incredibly thin and can see my abs coming in, and maybe im just seeing the weight of my mooscles ?? cope or rope ? ? ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You *can* improve your body composition without a huge change in weight. Think about it: if you weren't that fat to begin with and you're maintaining or even adding muscle mass how much excess weight did you really have to lose in the first place? And 4 pounds either way means nothing, if you worked up a sweat and took a shit that probably shaves off 4 pounds right there.

      There's really no reason to worry about exactly how much you weigh unless you have a weigh-in to make. The absolute number is irrelevant. If you look better than you used to then mission accomplished

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that makes sense. im gonna keep it up and see what happens

        Based
        [...]
        This is a lie. You're not. You're measuring shit incorrectly and/or then slathering on mayo or other bullshit and pretending like it's not.

        i guess its possible im measuring incorrectly, but definitely not doing mayo, sweets, greasy, or fried foods, or anything crazy like that

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you are eating more than you think you are

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sometimes eating too little for too long results in your tdee dropping and knocking you into a surplus

    consistently under eating is as bad/worse than consistently overeating

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably gainin muscle

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    iktf bro, people will talk to you on here like you're some dumb foid eating Twinkies on the side and not an autist counting every single calorie. Whenever I hit that plateau, I begin fasting every other day for like a week.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ya man i’m really busting my ass over here, but i’ll take all the comments as advice given in good faith. ill give it another month with my current routine and see what happens and adjust from there. thanks for the input bros, the cooked vs uncooked rice comment especially

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      News flash people fucking lie
      Skinny people overestimate how much they eat. Obese people underestimate how much they eat. Both groups will lie about it on surveys its a well studied thing.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real secret is that diets and strenous workouts don't instantly make you skinny. Habits over time change your body.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A diet and consistent exercise is a habit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he said hes been attempting for a month. He needs time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      well really i was a skinny bastard, bulked for about a year, am pretty huge, and i just wanna get shredded now. im like 4 weeks into my attempt at cutting, which is why i’m pissy about the 4lb. i must be doing something wrong

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mysterious weight gain
    >while eating *significant* deficit
    >and training consistently
    OP has an impacted bowel

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are probably gaining muscles, if its not your goal cut the lifting from your schedule, if your goal is to loose weight, cut calories, simple as that.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    your not eating enough naturally raised meat and animal organs

    also chicken meat is bullshit and bad for you
    stick to beef and lamb

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >chicken meat is bullshit and bad for
      True, objectively. Chickens are machines that eat bugs for us and produce eggs. They're a perfect machination which metabolizes a pest into usable nutrition. You can use them to keep crops of some major threats without pesticides. Certain birds even eat ticks, and you can clear all the ticks out of a field in a single season.
      We just shouldn't be eating the meat all the time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        interesting but what i ment was chickens and pigs accumulate linoleic acid when they are fed foods high in that fatty acid. Things like corn and onions or seed oils are all most chickens eat and it doesnt leave there bodies so you eat it too

        https://www.instagram.com/p/ChDFvcuFWFM/?hl=en-gb

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nice instagram link braindead gay

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you measuring how much oil or butter you use when cooking chicken and beans

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no oil or butter

      Skip breakfast, drink black coffee

      Chicken salad or a salad with chicken in it? If the former, cut that shit out right now, if the latter, you’re cheese and dressing is probably way more than you’re calculating.

      rice means carbs, stop. Chicken or other white proteins/fish and green vegetables.

      Also, you’re not doing enough cardio. Workout to maintain a heart rate in theb160-170 BPM range for an hour daily, not cover a distance.

      i do skip breakfast and drink black coffee, and i suppose a salad with chicken in it. no cheese, light dressing if any. i’ve tried going 0 carb but i started getting massive headaches when lifting, so i implemented brown rice (i heard it’s a healthier carb) into my diet, but i’ll do less. i do hiit every day, so i think i’m good on the cardio front at least

      [...]
      So breakfast is 250-350 kcal
      Lunch is anywhere between 100-500 kcal
      Dinner is 500+280+230/460 (for one/two cups respectively). You need to measure better.
      Even without adding calorie heavy dressings/seasonings, you can easily hit 2200 kcal a day with your diet.
      And if you eat packaged foods, remember that nutrition labels mislead and lie as much as they can.

      >nutrition labels mislead and lie
      so how the fuck am i supposed to cook

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eat fresh foods instead of industrial food product. And be wise about the tricks that they use to make the labels more attractive. Like foods being advertised as low calories because the listed serving size is small. Or the difference between the packed kcal and actual kcal after you have added other ingredients to prepare the item.
        Nutrition label lying is more of an issue with hyperprocessed garbage like cereals, and less so with packaged rice and the like. Just beware of the tricks they pull.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have been fasting / avoiding fried/greasy foods for the past month
    okay whats your point retard? im LITERALLY cutting eating pizza, mcdonalds and ben & jerry pints. why? because ON AVERAGE I eat 2000kcal a day while my TDEE is >2500

    Some days I might eat 2500kcal but because I did 20k steps my TDEE was over 3000kcal and I still lost weight. You are literally just calculating wrong. You are overestimating/underestimating the amount of exercise you do and what your TDEE is and since you didn't mention a single thing about calories I know for a 100% fact that you are calculating your calories wrong because you are not calculating them at all. Use Myfitnesspal and track EVERYTHING you eat. Realize that even a drop of olive oil has >50kcal, if you cook eggs, food etc. couple times a day that can easily be in the ~100-200 range of calories that you were completely oblivious to.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're eating too much.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but ive gained like 4lb
    How is your body looking? You most likely gained muscles and look better anyway
    Try to lower your calorie amount and you'll lose weight

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      my obliques / top abs are coming in which is sick i’ve never seen em before. it probably is just muscle. going by the number on the scale does seem a bit arbitrary in that light

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're really measuring correctly, just keep it up. I ate 1 meal a day and only started losing weight after 2 weeks, weight dropped like crazy after 2 weeks though.

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