From what I can tell it's about a 50/50 split in typical gyms.
The strength guys sometimes do straight sets, other times they do increasing weight or even wave loading. Bodybuilders do straight sets sometimes, but also practice intuitive loading and drop sets.
There's nothing wrong with straight sets, the simplicity of it probably makes it the best option.
I ramp up to my target weight and do my entire real set at the target weight. Unless I'm specifically doing ramping sets or pyramid sets. I only do pyramid sets when I feel weak that day tho. Don't really know if it works but I just kinda started doing it one day. I always have to start at a lower weight on my first exercise of the day as well to warmup.
I try to get as close to straight sets as possible. But for the most that would mean working with lower weight in a higher rep range. If you're failing your sets early you're probably losing volume. I'll usually lower weight if I felt like I cut it too close on my last set chasing a rep I probably shouldn't have.
In your example top is 3700 and bottom is 4000 and we think woop te do less than 2 rep difference. But if you're training like this more than once a week you might need to get your missing volume somewhere else
Dr Mike Izraetel says that if you can't recover from straight sets you're doing too much volume, you should be dying only at the end of your mesocycle. >Ramping up has you lifting at under 80% 1rm which is junk volume >Swap above for 60% if you're aiming for hypertrophy >Instead up weight every session/week (upping reps at the same weight works the same but suboptimally for strength gains) >This should bring you closer to failure over a mesocycle >On week 3 or 5 depending if your mesocycle is 4 or 6 weeks (pretty standard) you should reach RPE 9 but not before, too hard to recover from >Again, if you're not recovering between sessions so that your next session you need to drop weight or are at failure for the same weight or +2.5kg do less sets
I do straight sets because I'm OCD about recording sets and reps. 4x8 is just so satisfying whereas whatever that is isn't.
I also have to do a multiple of 5 sets per workout, but I allow 12 and 16, and did allow 21 at one point a few months ago. I adjust my volume so that my total working sets can equal a nice round number or I feel upset, awry, incomplete.
you would think so but try to find a gym where people are actually doing what works these days. I swear the internet has empowered so many people into thinking they're gurus or found some body-hack they don't even bother with the normal stuff. When I did calisthenics there was so much of that it was a chore to get anything coherent out of the internet.
To me ramp ups are just warmups and straight sets don't work because if I can replicate it 4 times it wasn't enough effort. I like to ramp up to a set to set to failure that's a guaranteed pr, then do two dropsets to failure, then rest enough to get said guarunteed pr next time. If you prefer periodization over patience though, don't do this. Also straight sets probably work best when you're still new.
That's just not true. You can always get a few more reps or a little more weight provided that the last workout stressed the muscle enough for the body to compensate and that you rested enough to let it do so. If adaptation was slower than that it wouldn't have any real world purpose. You'd just die waiting for the adaptation to survive.
What I do is say I go in and squat 60kg for three sets, next time I will go in and try to do 65kg. I had to lower it to 60kg after the first set of 65kg though. Then next time I got the 65kg for all three sets. Sometimes I fail though but that's good. So first time I tried 60kg I didn't quite finish the third set since I only got 5 reps instead of 8. Shouldn't this be what you always do? Try to lift more, fail, lower the weight. Next time try more. Keep pushing, and keep failing.
So I guess I do straight sets? But it should be trying to do more each time, so that you can't actually do the straight set, and have to drop down after the first set or something. Then add a bit more weight next time when you actually can do that weight for the number of sets you do.
I'm new but it's working, and I don't see why this idea wouldn't continue to apply.
I do my target weight for the day but I do less reps. Starting with a just-the-bar set to get the juices flowing, then load the target weight and do 1 or 3, depending if I can complete the full ROM.
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I do straight sets for my accessory work, they aren't a meme lol they're great for getting volume at a set intensity.
From what I can tell it's about a 50/50 split in typical gyms.
The strength guys sometimes do straight sets, other times they do increasing weight or even wave loading. Bodybuilders do straight sets sometimes, but also practice intuitive loading and drop sets.
There's nothing wrong with straight sets, the simplicity of it probably makes it the best option.
I ramp up to my target weight and do my entire real set at the target weight. Unless I'm specifically doing ramping sets or pyramid sets. I only do pyramid sets when I feel weak that day tho. Don't really know if it works but I just kinda started doing it one day. I always have to start at a lower weight on my first exercise of the day as well to warmup.
>i ramp up to my target weight
Yeah that's called warming up bro
I try to get as close to straight sets as possible. But for the most that would mean working with lower weight in a higher rep range. If you're failing your sets early you're probably losing volume. I'll usually lower weight if I felt like I cut it too close on my last set chasing a rep I probably shouldn't have.
In your example top is 3700 and bottom is 4000 and we think woop te do less than 2 rep difference. But if you're training like this more than once a week you might need to get your missing volume somewhere else
Dr Mike Izraetel says that if you can't recover from straight sets you're doing too much volume, you should be dying only at the end of your mesocycle.
>Ramping up has you lifting at under 80% 1rm which is junk volume
>Swap above for 60% if you're aiming for hypertrophy
>Instead up weight every session/week (upping reps at the same weight works the same but suboptimally for strength gains)
>This should bring you closer to failure over a mesocycle
>On week 3 or 5 depending if your mesocycle is 4 or 6 weeks (pretty standard) you should reach RPE 9 but not before, too hard to recover from
>Again, if you're not recovering between sessions so that your next session you need to drop weight or are at failure for the same weight or +2.5kg do less sets
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those "ramping" sets are jsut warm up sets.
Warm up sets are what? Maybe 30% of your one rep max if at that. OP looks like way more than that
>Warm up sets are what? Maybe 30% of your one rep max if at that.
a warm up set is like 5kg under your working set depending on what exercise
Warmup is a plate less than working.
incorrect homierd
If you squat 4pl8 then 5kg less is 97% of your working set. Even if it's 10kg that's 94.5%. Pointless.
you're both wrong, it's ~90%, kyselves
I usually start failing after about 3 sets, so I drop the weight.
I do straight sets because I'm OCD about recording sets and reps. 4x8 is just so satisfying whereas whatever that is isn't.
I also have to do a multiple of 5 sets per workout, but I allow 12 and 16, and did allow 21 at one point a few months ago. I adjust my volume so that my total working sets can equal a nice round number or I feel upset, awry, incomplete.
I do those actually.
What? Isn't straight sets the standard?
you would think so but try to find a gym where people are actually doing what works these days. I swear the internet has empowered so many people into thinking they're gurus or found some body-hack they don't even bother with the normal stuff. When I did calisthenics there was so much of that it was a chore to get anything coherent out of the internet.
I am just now learning what a ramping set is. Are they a meme?
To me ramp ups are just warmups and straight sets don't work because if I can replicate it 4 times it wasn't enough effort. I like to ramp up to a set to set to failure that's a guaranteed pr, then do two dropsets to failure, then rest enough to get said guarunteed pr next time. If you prefer periodization over patience though, don't do this. Also straight sets probably work best when you're still new.
If you can pr every time you are still new, lol
That's just not true. You can always get a few more reps or a little more weight provided that the last workout stressed the muscle enough for the body to compensate and that you rested enough to let it do so. If adaptation was slower than that it wouldn't have any real world purpose. You'd just die waiting for the adaptation to survive.
Then progression would be mechanically infinite.
You're always working up to a pr on periodization too, and that stops when you reach your limit of strength and muscular development all the same.
I do rampant cus they remind me of my rampant homsexuality
What I do is say I go in and squat 60kg for three sets, next time I will go in and try to do 65kg. I had to lower it to 60kg after the first set of 65kg though. Then next time I got the 65kg for all three sets. Sometimes I fail though but that's good. So first time I tried 60kg I didn't quite finish the third set since I only got 5 reps instead of 8. Shouldn't this be what you always do? Try to lift more, fail, lower the weight. Next time try more. Keep pushing, and keep failing.
So I guess I do straight sets? But it should be trying to do more each time, so that you can't actually do the straight set, and have to drop down after the first set or something. Then add a bit more weight next time when you actually can do that weight for the number of sets you do.
I'm new but it's working, and I don't see why this idea wouldn't continue to apply.
how do you do 5 reps for 135 sets
I do my target weight for the day but I do less reps. Starting with a just-the-bar set to get the juices flowing, then load the target weight and do 1 or 3, depending if I can complete the full ROM.