Because its bad, simple as. Its unironically that simple. The best arguement that dyels givev is that "they can feel the burn". Like thats not a metric. If it worked like that, you would just spam 10lbs dumbbells while playing video games and have 20 inch arms. Burn/fatigue/pump is not an indicator. And if you want to get scientific about it, the stretch happens when you are pressing. Stretch doesnt happen in that plane. Its happen when you press forward and bring it back down below parallel.
Nobody did flies and had carry over to dumbbell bench press 120lbs for 8 reps. But you can progressive overload with dumbbell bench press and then do the entire stack and mog the living frick out of the dyels chasing the pump and mind muscle connection.
>Nobody did flies and had carry over to dumbbell bench press 120lbs for 8 reps. But you can progressive overload with dumbbell bench press and then do the entire stack and mog the living frick out of the dyels chasing the pump and mind muscle connection.
flies are bad because it does only anterior delt like any other push motion and that's because pec tendon and muscle rubs on ribcage which deactivates it and that's because u're moving arms like an imbecile
meanwhile chest is made for compression, for clamping shit in front of u between arms (open jar of pickels) - i do static holds for chest, last one i discovered was holding shit in front of me between elbows >why elbows?
to diminish anterior delt involvement, it works i destroyed clavicular head of pec without touching shoulders oh 2 days ago - i am the smartestest, protract shoulders and move elbows clamping on 8 in wide object until ur humerus is horizontal
for pec to work in its entirety u must protract shoulders to free muscle from rubbing on ribcage, so that muscle fibers are straight between attachments, if u protract shoulders u aren't doing any pushing motion because shoulders will do kaboom - static hold that shit, it's ssssoooooo easy once u find the >mind muscle connection
which basically means u know what u are doing ass opposed to oblivious lil dum fricker u are
>to diminish anterior delt involvement
externally rotate shoulders to do that (elbows in palms out) - anterior delt can't work there unless u lift arms too high - don't lift arms too high then, horizontal is enough for clavicular head
I've had this as my chest accessory to bench because I don't have room for more pressing.
Did old school DB flies for 3 sets yesterday and I am having the most brutal chest DOMS in several months, I think I'll go back to ignoring the machine
I see my ~crush~ using this sometimes
He's so, so, soooo tall, handsome, and muscular... I might go to therapy so I can learn how to deal with the emotions that I feel when he's at the gym, I like him so much I don't know what to do and then I get lightheaded and faint on the treadmill and then I get launched backward and then I lie there on the floor
when I was a discus thrower in collage, I could max out any fly machine with ease.
4x12 reps ez mode.
350lbs? no issue.
I remember some Roided up body builder at my gym getting confused why he couldn't do as much weight as me.
but ya, lotta morons use that machine unnecessarily.
No, it's pronounced "die-el". Almost like the word dial but said in an accent you can't pin down
the number's don't lie OP
You're all wrong, it's clearly pronounced the same as dial, as in dial a phone number.
I thought it was pronounced "dyehl"
for me it's dee-why-el
i used this machine one (1) time and it fricked up my shoulder. great machine.
Try it like this you moron. You'll get amazing results
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g3T7LsEeDWQ
No you won't. It's a bullshit machine that limits natural motion to one fixed plane. It's complete, total, utter garbage and is only used by idiots.
It's obviously "dee-el" you fricking morons.
Americans are the only people capable of messing up their own language.
Dee-ee-ehl
i'm all up for discussing the pronunciation
but what about some elaboration on why the machine is bad too
Because its bad, simple as. Its unironically that simple. The best arguement that dyels givev is that "they can feel the burn". Like thats not a metric. If it worked like that, you would just spam 10lbs dumbbells while playing video games and have 20 inch arms. Burn/fatigue/pump is not an indicator. And if you want to get scientific about it, the stretch happens when you are pressing. Stretch doesnt happen in that plane. Its happen when you press forward and bring it back down below parallel.
Nobody did flies and had carry over to dumbbell bench press 120lbs for 8 reps. But you can progressive overload with dumbbell bench press and then do the entire stack and mog the living frick out of the dyels chasing the pump and mind muscle connection.
>Nobody did flies and had carry over to dumbbell bench press 120lbs for 8 reps. But you can progressive overload with dumbbell bench press and then do the entire stack and mog the living frick out of the dyels chasing the pump and mind muscle connection.
flies are bad because it does only anterior delt like any other push motion and that's because pec tendon and muscle rubs on ribcage which deactivates it and that's because u're moving arms like an imbecile
meanwhile chest is made for compression, for clamping shit in front of u between arms (open jar of pickels) - i do static holds for chest, last one i discovered was holding shit in front of me between elbows
>why elbows?
to diminish anterior delt involvement, it works i destroyed clavicular head of pec without touching shoulders oh 2 days ago - i am the smartestest, protract shoulders and move elbows clamping on 8 in wide object until ur humerus is horizontal
for pec to work in its entirety u must protract shoulders to free muscle from rubbing on ribcage, so that muscle fibers are straight between attachments, if u protract shoulders u aren't doing any pushing motion because shoulders will do kaboom - static hold that shit, it's ssssoooooo easy once u find the
>mind muscle connection
which basically means u know what u are doing ass opposed to oblivious lil dum fricker u are
>to diminish anterior delt involvement
externally rotate shoulders to do that (elbows in palms out) - anterior delt can't work there unless u lift arms too high - don't lift arms too high then, horizontal is enough for clavicular head
its do-el
I've had this as my chest accessory to bench because I don't have room for more pressing.
Did old school DB flies for 3 sets yesterday and I am having the most brutal chest DOMS in several months, I think I'll go back to ignoring the machine
i always pronounced it "dee-why-ee-el"
Is D-yell
Functional strength. Skip this machine and you'll never give a true bear hug.
Works fine for me but I put the seat high and put my hands high and cross the little handles at the top.
>does nothing
He’s doing a one rep max with the entire stack. Pretty based
I see my ~crush~ using this sometimes
He's so, so, soooo tall, handsome, and muscular... I might go to therapy so I can learn how to deal with the emotions that I feel when he's at the gym, I like him so much I don't know what to do and then I get lightheaded and faint on the treadmill and then I get launched backward and then I lie there on the floor
I need help
Eww the fat homosexual stared at me again.
i say die-yell
when I was a discus thrower in collage, I could max out any fly machine with ease.
4x12 reps ez mode.
350lbs? no issue.
I remember some Roided up body builder at my gym getting confused why he couldn't do as much weight as me.
but ya, lotta morons use that machine unnecessarily.