I unironically feel like I have gender disphoria as a non troony man. I don't feel like a real man and I don't think I ever will. I don't even know if gymcelling is making it better or worse since I never had this feeling before I lifted. I dislike myself more every day
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YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN. SORT YOUR SHIT OUT. DONT FALL FOR THE PSYOP
The absolute last thing I want is to be a woman
Go to frickkng therapy man. Work that shit out.
I would still be short and cringe
>manlet
There are short women out there who don't mind, and bring tall and strong is an advantage not a decisive factor, Napoleon was between 5’2” and 5’6 ugly looking fella and he had Europe in the palm of his hand
>cringe
Go out more socialise listen and learn how people interact and you will improve socially
Not feeling like a man could also be hormonal distinction to blood work ur test is probably low af
>There are short women out there who don't mind
no there aren't
>Napoleon was between 5’2” and 5’6 ugly looking fella and he had Europe in the palm of his hand
he was average for his time, almost conquered Europe, and his wife still cheated on him and he's now considered a loser despite his accomplishments because he's associated with shortness
I'm killing myself or getting leg lengthening
Anon im 6 foot 1 and im in the same boat as you. Height doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Your just coping and saying thats the problem because its something you cant control.
who considers him a loser? except for bongs perhaps, most respect his accomplishments, even if he lost in the end
You should get off this website for some time my friend
The real world isnt actually that bad,im short as well but thats just the hand weve been dealt.
Just living your life and trying to be the best version of yourself is not cringe at all
Just keep working out bro!!
Why not bro, why give up then?
I could take that exact dude and set him up to look literally 1000x better if I had full control over the photo and set. He will not look like a model but I could absolutely get laid if I was in that dudes body. Thank god I'm not but still
More people are in therapy and more money is spent on therapy than ever before. Go read some Coach K, OP, and figure out for yourself where you're stalled out at in life, and then fix it, if you can.
>recommending the guy who speedran an adhd schizo to the grave
Lel
Can't help but nooootice you didn't say he was wrong.
Don't you think that was implied by his message? Sorry but a 5th grade or higher reading comprehension is required for this board you have to go back
Back to where!?
FreeCP.com
>pay ludicrous amounts to some b***h to tell you dumb shit
im good
I understand. I am a man that identifies as a man that is manlier than I am. There is nothing more that I can do without medical intervention to make myself any more manlier. I am not satisfied.
Therapy is israeli.
Time to get gender reasignment surgery: height surgery and steroids
Which makes me wonder when they're going to start offering height surgery for ftm trannies as "gender affirming" surgery
Manliness is a state of mind. You will never truly embody masculinity until you stop obsessing over your looks. It's okay to want to look good, but obsession over ones own physical appearance and being emotionally reliant on it is inherently feminine. Working out should be predominantly in the pursuit of strength, not 'aesthetics'.
Therapy is dumb. You're just paying some dumbass to pretend to care about your stupid problems for 30 minutes.
therapy is gay as frick and for literal consumer tards
No don't it will frick OP up even more
>oh you're having a natural reaction to life's general shittiness? Better prescribe you some mind altering drugs
>paying hundreds of dollars PER HOUR to some stranger
>sit in some office and spill your guts out to a stranger for hundreds of dollars per hour
>maybe get some drugs prescribed afterwards and all they do is frick with your mind and body
why?
just stole your picture btw. Also, go do some martial arts
>Therapy
>Talking about your problems to a verbal prostitute who thinks that he/she knows how to solve your problems because he studied some idiots who lived hundreds of years ago
>getting prescriptions for taking chemicals that'll destroy your personality and turn you into a vessel of your former self
no thanks
>Talking about your problems to a verbal prostitute who thinks that he/she knows how to solve your problems
This. If talking about your problems fixes them, they were not real problems to begin with. I once had a therapist flat out tell me she did not know how to help me and it was the last time I went.
Good for being open and honest about.
But what does it mean to feel like "not like a real man". Like what is a real man? How do you feel like it?
I don't know I just feel like a child. I feel like I will always be looking up to people physically and literally and people will always be looking down on me. I just want to be a big bloke without having to cope with muscles. Jeff nippard fills me with extistential dread. I simultaniously feel inferior to people taller than me and superior to people shorter than me and I suspect that most people also do.
How old are you?
I don't think all people feel like that. It sounds like way to much focus on height and superiority/inferiority and that is not normal at all. I don't know maybe if you are a turbomanlet like this guy
its something that becomes more relevant. Or maybe that guy to is just insecure and hung up about it. I don't know. Where you abused or neglected or some shit to make your self feelings all fricked up?
I'm only insecure about it because it seems to matter, particularly to women. I've heard them talk within earshot
not OP but iktf as a turbomanlet. if it were the 40s and I'd gone off to the war then at least I think I'd feel like a man.
Maybe you’re just a straight bottom. I hear those exist.
Yes women do exist
Anon please don’t say things like that.
It’s because you’re 19 bro. You’ve been demoralized by frauds.
It's not that I need to be crazy muscular I just hate being smaller than people in general in weight and height
Like I missed the normal male thing of getting a big growth spurt as a teenager and suddenly being big. Instead I slowly grew like 1 inch a year until I was 18
I am a mild manlet (5'8)
I don't think anything happened to me when I was a kid other than my older brother being kind of mean to me and being a schizoid
*and me being a schizoid
It also pisses me off because my brother is like 6 inches taller than me and just moggs the shit out of me in every way
Your height is within normal range. Everyone's older brother was mean to them kek , i don't know anyone who has an older brother that was not shitty to their younger siblings.
Yeah it matters, everything matters. But its not that important and its not something that means you'll never have a gf, sex or all those normal aspects of life. And also, women will shit test you about height just to see if you are the kind of guy that is easily upset emotionally. Learn to genuinely not be bothered by it, laugh it off, don't' care and they won't care. And if some of them care and that is a deal breaker that makes them not attracted, then accept that too and shrug/laugh that off as well. You have to accept it and move on because you can't change it and there is no point in being mad or sad about it because all that does is make you less attractive and act like a b***h. And people don't like people that act like b***hes. People like people that are comfortable with them self and confident and can joke around without taking shit seriously, even things like height. When you get existential anxiety over seeing Jeff Nippard you are just dealing with your own feelings of inferiority and how you see your self. The thing you fear the most about seeing Jeff is that you are looking for any signs that he is insecure or feel awkward about his height and you can't stand the thought of him showing self consciousness over his height because you will see your self in that and you find that uncomfortable. What you should see when you look at him, is someone that is short, is okay with it and is living a happy fulfilling life despite him not being perfect.
I feel towards jeff nippard the same way that one guy feels about warwick davis
also
this isn't me I have more reasons than that
I know it's not incredibly important and my life could be worse. I do always laugh off stuff like that in public and act chill about it but inside it just makes my heart sink and I go home and feel like shit. My main issue is I just want to be a big guy that people look up to and respect and I feel like I'll always just be a little guy coping with muscle
Anyway what can you do
thanks anon
You can be a good dude that people look up to and respect, but it won't be because of your physical stature, but it can be because that you are a good person that helps and cares about those around him and that makes the right decisions, hold it down when shit gets real, gets respect for being a good, dependable, capable, competent, wise, moral, upstanding, cool, funny, charming, etc and so on. Anyways, keep working on your self and living life, don't let not being tall frick up the good experience that life can be.
>Learn to genuinely not be bothered by it, laugh it off, don't' care and they won't care.
I already do this, I'm not a sperg in public or anything. Also I don't know who jeff nippard is. I guess I've accepted it but accepting it is actually the worst part. accepting it is like conceding defeat
Everyone experience defeat in life that is normal.
Im a 5'5 35 year old manlet. Understand that what youre feeling is an insecurity, you are your height and you cant be anything else. Learn to live with it and stop thinking about things out of your control. What you can fix is your diet, your body composition, your personality, your work ethic, your sense of humor, your ability to be a socialable, and likeable person. All of these will make you happier and attractive to men and women physically and mentally. Youre still a baby at 19 you might feel like an adult but i promise you, you aint. Try to enjoy your life and understand how lucky you are to even be alive and healthy.
>mild manlet
Does that make me a spicy manlet at 5'6?
>Verification not required.
Unironically get off the internet for a while. Still go to the gym and lift weights but don't compare yourself to other as it will lead to self-loathing. You are young so sharpening your mind with the gym will be good. Read the book of 5 rings, its about the life of miyamoto musashi. Also go do hikes, anything to be in nature helps. The reason you feel imasculated is because society is telling you to feel insecure and that you need to have gender dysphoria. Cut porn out if you watch it. You will be fine anon, just gotta believe in yourself.
Isn't 5'8 statistically average american male height?
I live in England
The average height here is like 5'10 and I rarely see people the same height or shorter than me
Just move to a country where everyone is malnourished and short so you can mog them
I don't want to live around poos
Fake news
>moron doesn't know about benefits of selfhatemaxxing
>non troony man
is that an expression to marginalize a normal person? are you a bawd? die
I'm just trying to emphasize the fact that I am a male and not a troony despite emphasizing with them
I utilize that every day
my bad bro, sorry for calling you a moron. i have anger issues i’m working on..
that's ok bro I will use it in my next self hate maxxing session lol
19
your next line is "kys zoomer"
on second thought... nevermind, you are a moron, i'm not sorry
short, dyel, and rich > big and poor
There's nothing more manly than impregnating a woman multiple times and raising a family.
you need to go IST
I felt that way until I got a real job. Now I have younger hires to mentor, responsibilities to important people in other companies, and pressure on myself to continue learning and perform. I like the feeling.
Try to look like Vitruvian Physique or Steve Reeves. Anyone bigger than that is probably on roids and not worth trying to copy looks-wise.
more they understand how you feel. but they need to know being a failed man does not make them women.
You need an ancient portuguese technology... They call it "tamanco".
Use two and you can fix this height issue
You don't understand how trannies feel lmao. You just have low self esteem. Trannies (actual trannies) have problems with the way their bodies look and their gender identify/perception. Its not feelings of being inferior because someone is taller or have more achievements or whatever. Stupid frickingtard. And i will for ever be a man frick off morons
I don't know, Anon. Kind of wonder why you turn to IST to share this feeling. Choose less suffering and things might shift into perspective.
Your problem lies in your feminine obsession with your outward physical appearance, while what really defines a man is his actions. Shred down to low bf% and start honing your skills and attain control of matter. Read Bronze Age Mindset and gtfo of this hellhole.
Male body dysmorphia is a thing, just like social media can cause women to become anorexic it can cause men to become roid trannies and inject saline into their muscles.
>I don't feel like a real man and I don't think I ever will
What is a real man to you?
I doubt it lines up with whats actually expected of you
People are complex and simple.
Brain things that seem simple are often more complex and complex stuff is often more simple that we ourselves realise.
You feel bad because of emotional stuff you haven't dealt with. Legs seem like the answer but that's an excuse to obscure the real issue you have, fixation on wanting to be better than you are without practical grounding.
Go outside, climb rocks, visit gigs, read about topics that matter to you. Uninteresting people are uninteresting because they've little to add.
Find your passion again by being genuine with yourself, we all believe in you OP
Yeah you're right I'm getting back to my reading and less complaining
Take a fat friend to the gym. Seeing that you can help others will help you feel like a man. Unironically being strong and feeling smart are part of being a man, but helping other people to better themselves is also required.
>These are the anons calling you dyel
Just because I'm mentally ill doesn't mean I can't make gains
>I don't feel like a real man
What do you think real men feel like? What attributes would you ascribe to real men?
Go to a bjj or kickboxing gym and get good at that as a hobby to realize your strength or maybe train for a local strongman competition. Being good at something lends to confidence. maybe pick up metalworking or woodworking, something physical you can get better at.
Idk sounds to me like working out reminds you of inadequacies in what you would consider masculine attributes making you hyperware of that and causing insecurity in your identity since it's now being challenged on the daily whereas before you didn't have to face that reality. Same logic as if you aren't socializing you never have to face the reality that you're unadjusted and socially awkward. "I'm faced with my awkwardness in conversations everyday i must be autistic it's the only reality that makes sense to me" Is that the reality? Or just the one that's easiest for you to accept because it protects you from the sting of failure or rejection?
Denying your birth sex is dumb but properly informed adults should have access to any hormones/body alterations they want. Roided out butch women, trenbros, hyperfem bimbos,and femboys should be seen legally, etc. as their birth sex but allowed to exist and express themselves so the neuroticism of repression doesn't bleed into other aspects of their lives and everyone else's politics. In Thailand, ladyboys are seen as men. Why can't we have that here?
this is actually unironically the answer and i really wish people would understand this. why identify by sex and sex alone. this word "gender" is an neologism invented by the anglo language terror to impose on other languages. in my language (norwegian) we have no such word for gender and we still don't. the closest you can get is the weird word "social sex" but no one says that. transgender people are straight up called "transsexuals" here. idk i feel like the issue at hand is so easily solved if moron righties and lefties could just acknowledge this and then move on.
>why identify by sex and sex alone
we identify by sex and sex alone*
This. People think that enforcing gender roles will cure the troony issue when in reality forcing men to be masculine and forcing women to be feminine will make it worse
>I unironically feel like I have gender disphoria as a non troony man. I don't feel like a real man and I don't think I ever wil
classic israelite psyop
can't let them win op, gotta gas the israelite inside your brain, which can often be done with some of these israeli tricks: therapy, cbt, meditation, a decent support system
I feel this way Bec I’m a skinny dyel that has the physical strength of a woman
I’m 6 feet tall btw
Same age and mental condition but two inches shorter, wanna hold hands and kiss and stuff?
no homo