Boxing
>don't want a smashed nose
JiuJitsu
>don't want smashed ears
Muay Thai
>don't want smashed shins + smashed nose
Karate
>don't want to play pretend
I don't want to learn fighting for the cardio, I don't want to be surrounded by women doing it for cardio. I want to learn a good skill without damaging my body. What style should I learn?
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Judo?
This, plus stop being a pussy OP
Judo is probably one of the most intensive. Ur spine will be cracked and sore within 5 years
It's not necessarily the most intensive. Just most dangerous because of the falls and grips. Destroys your joints faster than anything else. The others you can go way harder and wear out your body from overuse more easily. You don't get to the point of overuse in judo. You break before you do.
did judo for 14 years, the injury risk is higher fo sho in judo than in jitsu, bjj is the daddiest sport i can imagine. Low entry, divisions for beginners, doesn't require being as athletic as judo, average age on the mat propably around 30, etc. Judo is my fav sport definitely, but to an adult who's never trained any martial art, jitsu is more friendly.
i fought a guy who knew karate and he jump kicked me right in the fricking head
it didnt feel like play pretend lmao
No such thing as a play fight, when sparring with someone new you don't know what tempo they intend to set so you must meet them with speed and aggression
You should do Jiu-Jitsu. While the risk is still there for injury (as with any martial art that actually works), you can minimize the risks by avoiding inverting, rolling light all the time and avoiding people who weigh more than you by 25%, tapping early, and weightlifting to lower risks of injury.
To avoid smashed ears, you can wear headgear. However, I personally don't as it makes you look like an autist and a pussy and there are women there. I instead keep needles in my gym bag so that I can drain the cauliflower ear before it solidifies and becomes permanent.
You honestly don't get collie ear unless you wrestle. If you start on the ground, you'll pretty much never get it. Keep headgear around for when you feel it coming. If you wear headgear only when your ears feel sore, they'll rarely puff up and you only wear it like 10% of the time.
Plus if you wear it only when you have collie, you're the badass who rolls hard enough to get it. That, and no one cares. If you have an ego and care how you look, you'll never make it in grappling
The entire point of bjj is to manipulate your opponents joints into debilitating positions. The idea you can participate in bjj and do it safely, where you are not just drilling but actively having training partners try to put you joints in these damaging positions each training session, is silly.
This
I did wrestling, BJJ, kickboxing, and karate each for years at a time. I have no cauliflower ear or other lasting injuries from training sensibly. I did join the wrong kickboxing gym for awhile and ended up with several black eyes and a broken rib that never really healed properly, but those guys were tripping and I should have left sooner, before getting hurt. The signs are there if it's a good gym or a bad gym, and don't spar or roll with psychos who have ego problems (this usually means once-fit boomers and dolph lungren lookalikes in kickboxing gyms)
Sounds like you want the confidence and ego boost without actually risking anything. Have you considered HRT and completing your transition to being female?
The only way to learn to fight is to fight bro theres no way around it. Have you thought this through?
You do understand that if you want to learn how to fight, you will have to, you know, fight, aka get punched, kicked, scratched, etc, and do the same to others, right? And that there is no way to peacefully learn how 2 violence, because while half of learning how to fight is learning how to hit someone, the other half is learning how to deal with getting hit by someone (which is actually the most important half), right?
>What style should I learn?
The one where you grow a pair, make up your mind if you actually want to learn or not, and go through with your decision. Stop trying to half ass shit and find workarounds. Either you do it or you don't.
I can't imagine what kind of bubble you grew in if you have to be explained how fighting works. This is the kind of shit you learn in primary school.
How are you going to learn how to fight without getting hit, pussy? This might be the most feminine thread I've ever seen.
>I want to learn to fight without being in any danger
Go watch youtube, homosexual
Fighting requires practicing, which requires risking injury.
>JiuJitsu
>don't want smashed ears
>wants to learn how to fight
>not willing to damage body in order to do so
Lmfao...
It takes a long time to get cauliflower ear along with training very hard, a hobbyist usually will not get it. I have double cauliflower ears and it took 2 years training full time as a grappler for them to get bad.
You don't actually sound serious about training and you sound like a complete poser fricking homosexual.
Been doing jitz for ears and never had ear issues. Every time my ears got damaged I just took time off.
If the get swolen you can drain the and take time off.
The reality is a lot of guys keep as a sign of being tough.
Or they do drain them but go back to training right away so they get more fricked up.
Anyways BJJ is useless for fighting past blue belt just pick up judo.
You will ha e solid stand up plus a bjj blue belt understanding of ground.
It's useless past purple belt, not blue. Past purple it's diminishing returns, but blue itself can be outperformed by significant strength or athleticism (though not a majority of the time).
moronic take
Yeah agree, blue doesn't mean much because there is big disparity between a beginner blue and an advanced one. Also blues are given away a lot as petty belts for just showing up. I find they don't give purples as easily.
Be honest
How many broken fingers/toes
Never broke anything or had a serious injury. The most time off I took was 2 months off from rib damage. Once had an elbow on the nose but it was aight.
The thing is I am buff, I am muscular and weight 200 pounds. Many bjj guys don't lift so they get injured all the time.
Judo is the most injury prone martial art by far.
Is it though? At my local gym there's a lot of old black belts doing it.
Definitely, those black belts have been doing it a long time- They know how to safely fall, chop at the knees, throw etc.
Plus they're old and probably not going full speed, watch two young judokas going full speed at each other and you'll see how explosive it is/ how dangerous it could be
>JiuJitsu
If you care about your ears tape em and you can drain em at home to deal with it
most people wont even get
i wanted to do boxing for the longest time. but honestly because of my past concussions, i don't think its worth it for me. BJJ seems to take less of a physical toll on your body imo.
u dont have to spar goof
You really do or you will never get even remotely decent
You're not even going to be able to get value out of shadowboxing if you never spar because you won't know what it's like and you won't be able to properly visualize a real match
just dont do hard sparring. I never got the point of that anyway, since the whole point of sparring was to hone your skills/defence and not frick up your sparring partner
Unfortunately most of us are bound to eventually encounter a sparring partner that thinks otherwise.
You will never be good without hard sparring.
I quit because at the level I was at I needed hard sparring to get better, but found it not worth it. Light sparring is better than nothing but again find me a pro boxer who never hard spars
It's like drilling BJJ and not sparring. You won't git gud from just drilling
>I want to learn to fight
>But I'm a big pussy
I do boxing but have never done head training, we normally just hit the body when sparring
obv I'd never do a professional boxing match don't want a smashed brain
>I want to fight but I am scared of getting hurt
Then stay out of the ring moron nobody wants you anyways
Idk, kendo maybe, unless you wanna not wear safety gear, they you might get your head busted open.
>Karate
>>don't want to play pretend
Karatebros.. Why is life so cruel?
Jokes aside, if youre afraid of getting hit while fighting you shouldnt be fighting at all. Also any part of your body is OK to be smashed into oblivion as long as you work your way up to it and it isnt your head.
.t Karate homosexual
>and it isnt your head
So no boxing then.
Just do bare knuckle.
Bare knuckle fricking blows. Get at least boxing wrap
Don't do a martial art if you can't pay the price. Even BJJ, the safest martial art can frick your shit up. Take up biking or dancing instead.
OP is a delicate little daffodil 🙂 please do not make any loud noises or sudden movements around him as he may start crying
>Karate
>>don't want to play pretend
man you can't say stuff like that when you've admitted that you're afraid of fighting
kenpo and kyokushin are legit
You won't start fighting or sparring with muay thai or boxing. Most places will have beginners start training their punch/kicks on boxing pads/sand bags.
They go slow and teach you the fundamentals before your first sparring. And even then, it's controlled movements unless you go to a shitty gym.
I want to box but I don’t want brain damage, and I’m also a manlet so it would be pointless anyway.
Stop being a homosexual, just smash your body so you can smash other bodies
>Muay Thai
Traditionally doesn't practice hard sparring almost at all.
BJJ you wont hurt yourself
Box dont go in club you'll end up having to hit a heavy bag for 4 months before seeing combat, just buy gloves and hit friend really hard 2 or 3 times a week for 6 rounds of 2m each, taught me I wasn't a b***h to be ragdolled around
Muay Thai idk, go in thailand you weeb
>Karate
cool for explosive footworks and balance, otherwise only larpers and people who wasted years learning karate will defend it
But you're a pussy OP, you won't do shit and thats good you're part of the 90% of lemmings supposed to be unable to fight
PUSSY IS SCARED TO HAVE BOO BOOS AHAHHAHAHA
>cool for explosive footworks and balance, otherwise only larpers and people who wasted years learning karate will defend it
I learned a lot from karate but yeah most of it was just how to stand and move. Also I learned to fight ambidextrously in karate. Now I box and it's nice to have the trick up my sleeve. But I will agree karate isn't very good at all to learn to fight
>I want to learn to fight, but without fighting
Morons like you are the kind of people to do aikido and shit
taekwando?
that's the least fake fake martial art
go learn to box pussy, stop crying like a woman. nobody cares about your smashed parts
Do boxing. Its good. Just don't compete.
What martial art is the best to grow old with?
Well anon you could practice boxing without hard sparring. You'd get bodied by an mma expert but you'll be prepared if you ever had to fight a drunk moron.
And boxing is good training. Most of your time will just be hitting bags, polar opposite of karate
I just roleplay as Kiyru from yakuza.
>in apartment complex gym
>no one comes in during time when I work out
>gym is shitty but has one single punching bag
>I imagine walking past it, then getting in a fighting stance after he calls me a giga homosexual or insults my non existent gf
>I argue with the punching bag before ultimately getting ready to fight
>do the yells like he does
>try to mimic the heat actions (poorly)
I seriously hope those security cameras are fake or people are going to think I'm moronic
You still learn to fight with TMAs. It’s just a meme that stuff like karate isn’t effective. Many combat sports came out of TMAs. Kickboxing from karate. Bjj from judo and judo from traditional Japanese jujutsu. There’s even a combat sport in China that came from Kung fu. The issue with TMAs is that their are way too many out of shape instructors who are treat their places like daycare where every kid gets a black belt. But that doesn’t mean arts like karate are worthless because people have been able to exploit TMAs for profit without caring about the quality of the program
Stop being a homosexual you will risk taking damage as you learn to damage others by nature
>you need to spar
>sparring should be treated as a full combat sport
>full combat sports have significant risk of injury
just something you've gotta deal with. why do you want to learn to fight, anyway? if you ever actually envision yourself in a real life fighting scenario, wouldn't you be much more worried about what some stranger in a pub could do to you vs. the relatively more minor injuries you'd sustain in a controlled environment?
>yes let me learn how to fight without learning how to fight
you can do all the shadow boxing and front/sidekicks you want,once you're in a real fight and you get hit in the face for the first time you wont have any reference point for you to know how you're going to deal with it until after it happens.
Did you never rough house as a kid? Lmao.
yes,but there's always a few kids who have never been through it,or were kept under a comically large umbrella by their parents,which I believe OP was one of those types of kids.
there's a significant difference between rough housing in the school yard where you probably end up in a half-assed grapple on the ground and being in an actual fight, particularly one where you realise the other guy knows what he's doing or even worse, is a better fighter than you.
In any case, any fighting past the very basics requires you to be able to react to what the other guy is doing. Its much easier to learn to keep you guard up when you're getting clocked, and no one ever learned how to slip a punch by shadowboxing or how to get out of a chokehold by watching videos.
thats for most people,I got out of a chokehold in high school after watching a video about how to escape on the first try,but maybe that was because I've been in a chokehold before that and knew what it felt like.
Hard sparring isn't necessary to train a martial art. Soft sparring is fine; you won't get injured.
Nose just fixes itself even if you break it. I would be more worried about getting Alzheimers in your 50s from all the minor concussions.
just box but get your neck right. being able to take a punch relies on neck strength, not necessarily jaw strength, and there are exercises for both. if you want to be a real slayer you've got to spar but if you just want some cardio and want to learn how to throw a punch then that's ok too
>I want to learn to shoot but I dont want to shoot a gun
>I want to learn to cook but I dont want to use a knife
>I want to learn to race but I dont want to experience a car crash
>I want to get buff as frick but I dont want to feel sore sometimes
getting injured is part of the process homosexual
Real-talk, though, what do you do to mitigate head trauma in boxing? I don't care about pain, cuts, bruises, broken noses, etc. but having my brains bashed in and potentially getting brain damage is a no-go. Is it not as much of a problem as I think it is?
You wear a padded helmet like every other sane boxer does during sparring, just like you wear headgear when wrestling to protect your ears. The dangers are really overblown, and mainly come down to people being stupid.
martial arts are cope because you will get injured no matter what
Just carry a gun if your to pussy to risk your body being damaged. Same confidence as fighting but requires no time invested and only a few hundred dollars
>Hey IST how do I do X without actually doing X? I'm too much of a pussy to put my money where my mouth is and accept the realistic consequences of my choices, but still want to pretend like I'm a badass
Get the frick over yourself and take your lumps
**OP is a wuss** and if I were to learn a type of fighting style/martial art, I'd learn systema; the one that Russian soldiers normally use in battle to defend. I heard it's pretty effective
"...for you are the Sculpter and the Marble'
Then you don't want to learn to fight. That's fine just get a gun and some sneaky less-than-lethal gadget for lesser shit that won't ruin your life like shooting a guy does. If some meth head fricks with you in public, crack his jaw, cover your face and leave. Never talk to cops.
which combat sport is best if i'm blind as hell and can't do contacts? BJJ? or should i just man up and do muay thai?
You seem like a borderline violent cringelord
boxing is fun
what makes you think you're going to damage your body? just don't do hard sparring. do boxing or muay thai. go to a gym tomorrow. stay for an hour. if you like the vibe, sign up.
Just train yourself with a punching bag and YouTube
Do explosive sandbag training and HIIT as well
Should cover 95% of the fights you get into without being some weird CTE or cauliflower ear guy