I want to quit everything, retire early, build a home gym and live a comfy NEET life. Just because i can, does it mean i should?
I want to quit everything, retire early, build a home gym and live a comfy NEET life.
I want to quit everything, retire early, build a home gym and live a comfy NEET life. Just because i can, does it mean i should?
This but I'd settle for being a farmer
If you have no other responsibilities, why not?
I'd settle for living in a cabin somewhere, growing just enough food to survive.
>I'd settle for living in a cabin somewhere, growing just enough food to survive.
this is what i want to do when i'm older. build my own small cabin with a big farm, chickens and goats.
>this is what i want to do when i'm older
why not now? you could die tomorrow anon
I'm so tired of dealing with all the bs in this world. I just wanna be alone by myself
yea, why not? my dad is nearly 60 and this is pretty much what he wants to do before he dies.
doesn't matter what age you are to want to live the comfy life, mang.
because men are expected to go out attack the world and do great things. From where i'm from you will get disrespected for wanting to live like OP
yes die for Israel good goyim
I am 39.
I have no woman, I have no house, I have no friends, I have no money and live paycheck to paycheck. When will my real life begin bros? I'm tired of the grind, I'm tired of this life, just very very tired that's all.
Take the zyzz pill and move to Thailand. You will live like a king there as long as you're white
You wasted it
Join the vocation and become a priest or join the marines
I don't think you can join any branch at 39
You can’t join if you are an euro
If you are really desperate, just quit and move somewhere and live on the beach. It's not like you can die of starvation in a first world country. Maybe save up some money first, but frick it what do you have to lose. Move to Venice Beach and get jacked
>When will my real life begin bros?
it never began because you didn't take the initiative to bring it about, you sat back like a lazy moron and expected it to just happen. you still have plenty of time to change though, to improve yourself and your life. but you actually have to do it instead of waiting for some sort of fricking miracle.
>I want to quit everything, retire early, build a home gym and live a comfy NEET life
I did that this year. It's been a mixed bag, even if I believe it's overall positive.
i'm listening anon. How did it go?
Why did you stop? Would you do it again some day?
I didn't stop, I'm about 8 months into a 2 year sabbatical, with the option to continue indefinitely if the market looks ok.
Positives, not going to work, being able to devote as much time and attention as needed to fitness goals, having lots of extra time for friends or family.
Downsides, essentially living on a fixed income which means you'll be delaying and deferring expensive things you might want to do, and it's really easy to become aimless and unfocused
Man I would love to have what you have. I just want a simple life instead of grinding every day. Yeah people can call me a lazy pos whatever I don't care I just want to live the life I want to live. We all gonna die anyway
Just like that physique, gotta put in the work and be ok with the tradeoffs. I spent 15 years becoming the world's tightest tight ass while also busting ass climbing the ladder in a field I ultimately hated (software). Hit 1.2 mil, now I live off $25k / yr, with insurance provided by spouse who wants to keep working.
Be prepared for lifelong tradeoffs (I have no car, for instance) and if possible don't do it alone - it's harder.
software crushes the soul badly, which is why I took a year off. When the AI hype fades you can probably come back and clean up all the LLM dogshit generated code and make bank and then quit again.
>When the AI hype fades you can probably come back and clean up all the LLM dogshit generated code
Kek. It might even be worse that parsing offshore-India code. My former company now uses ML for customer service, so I'm just waiting for them to hit an Air Canada legal snag.
How is not having a car a lifelong trade off
Something like 90% of US households own a car, and 40% of US households own two. Going without a car at all is unusual in the states and creates logistical challenges.
My life is a lot like yours, but I took the real estate pill. You should be getting 10% yield on your money, frick that 4% shit, thats for actual rich people.
I personally don't have the fortitude for RE, and REITs aren't worth it. Boring ass stocks for me.
I took a year off programming but looks like the market is fricked now. Considering going to grad school in something crazy.
How much money do you think is needed to afford this lifestyle?
4% rule. You can withdraw 4% of your investments annually and it should last you forever. You want to live on $30k/year? Save 25x that, $750k. Of course, if you continue to work to some extent (like part time or only when you find a temporary job you can enjoy), you can do this with drastically less savings or be a lot more sure your money will last.
Notably, the trinity study on which the 4% rule was founded was only for a 30 year time horizon.
So if you're going longer than 30 years, lower your percentage. There are calculators and simulators online.
I don't blame you mate, I'm unironically considering doing the same. Politics is shit, woman are generally shit, there's too many "relationship and money" ~~*experts*~~ who are just scammers using buzzwords.
Choosing to go along with the status quo marrying some wilderbeast, working in mr shenkelstiens widget factory, putting up with mediocre woman and voting for bought off politicians is an utter waste of time and mental energy.
Additionally I may add that most people in cities are little more than consumer drone npcs who cant shut up about their degrees pets or small chilldren. They have never devoloped a personality. Most of them have no real skills, you could put 99% of them in a forest in wet weather gear and they'd still manage to kill themselves in a short time.
Obeying the mainstream today is like signing onto a massive mortage in the last days of the roman empire while other civilisations look on in disbelief at the incredible waste and utter stupidity.
Hard pass on all of it.
Yeah but I keep at least some thread of a work life/extra income going. We're probably going to hit something similar to great depression sooner or later and foreign interests usually come sniffing around for property then building gaudy subdivisions. So in the event you want to move it might be good to have an exit strategy.
I've been contemplating something similar. I'm about to start purging most of my shit, find a shack big enough for me to set up my workdesk and gym equipment, and just go secular ascetic.
I'm just trying to tackle my addictions one at a time and start saving enough money to start that shit up.
I'm fricking over the yuppie shit. I'm just afraid I'm too weak to survive.
We gonna make it. I believe in you brother.
I mean, in nature I would have died as an infant. I am only alive due to the good graces of modern medicine, and as such am dependent on modernity.
shouldn't this be everyone's goal? why would you keep working for the sake of working? maybe I'm wired differently but I'd rather spend my free time on stuff I like.
Some people can't stand the idea of staying at home all the time and distancing themselves from society. They work not just for money or also for socializing with their boss, coworkers... Just my 2 cents
Occasionally, the work itself is something they enjoy. It doesn't happen as often as public schools tell their students, but it does happen. Once in a blue moon, someone finds picrel.
This. I don't think I will be able to find a job that I enjoy working. I'm so sick of slave waging just to support my consumerism. I want to break the cycle
Bullshit. Keep your eyes open and consider the weird options. Maybe one will spark an interest. You'll make it. We're all gonna make it.
Homeschool your kids
Or donate sperm bank
Or impregnate third world women
Become absentee father
Whatever you guys do, don’t end up like my father. He’s 71 and has a large retirement investment portfolio, I don’t know how much but it’s probably a few million, so he could surely easily fully retire, and yet despite retiring from his job a few years back in his late 60s, all he did was just become an independent contractor and do the same exact work he was doing, working most days of the week, business trips, etc.
I’m pretty sure it’s because if he didn’t work he would literally be doing nothing, like just sitting in the house watching tv and YouTube. He has no friends and really no hobbies. I don’t think he would do any normal retired guy activities like golfing, fishing, or whatever the hell retired guys usually do. So he’ll probably just be working until he physically can’t anymore
So he works because he has nothing else to do and he loves his job? I see nothing wrong with that. I mean not every one wants to become a NEET.
Maybe he does, I mean he’s been doing it for a long time. But I think that it’s also that he would just literally be doing nothing all day every day otherwise. I mean retired but still dealing with airports, hotels, and long car drives with traffic to the places he works, it’s great if he likes it but I think it’s more of necessity.
Basically yeah
>He has no friends and really no hobbies
so he's basically just like 90% of this site
I’m 32 and Becoming rich and being able to “retire” wouldn’t even make me happy, especially not living like a NEET. I mean my pathetic job is a key part of why I’m so miserable, but if I was to say win the lottery tomorrow and suddenly have tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, my life wouldn’t change whatsoever. I would still be completely socially avoidant and have no friends and would be too afraid to talk to women. And literally any time I have free time, pretty much all I do is completely waste it living like a NEET which makes me miserable. There will be weekends where I go to the gym in the morning and then if I don’t have my hobby planner that day, I will just sit in my room and do literally nothing.
I am so jealous of how most people have a goal in mind about wanting to retire, wanting to own A house, have those goals to work towards and plan for. I just have nothing. I’m miserable when I do nothing. I’m miserable when I do things. Doesn’t matter. Always miserable
>turning 32 in a week
>this is basically me
Frick...
The only thing I have in my life is my job (which I also fricking hate), the gym, and a social hobby I'm forcing myself to get back into, but with no real end goal for it.
>unemployed
>no goal
>no ambition
>no hobby
Two more years and i'll be 30. I'm simply just existing at this point. Maybe i should kms
It's over
you should do steroids
i'm unemployed. I can't even afford food let alone drugs
fwiw I was feel like this at like 27. Don't at 31. Also gym is a hobby.
It's a ciclical thing, you have to force yourself to do shit for a couple years until it starts getting better.
Also just get a job. Be nice to people. It all starts to come together, it just takes a lonnggg time. By 30 you could be doing 15% better than now. Your mid 30s and 40s could be great.
My 30s are much better than my 20s. I get laid all the time and I'm not as awkward.
I’m the original guy, 30 was the age that sank me into utter despair. It wa the age where I came to terms that I had utterly wasted the most important developmental decade of my life, your 20s, with absolutely nothing to show for it. College years and 20s gone with no relationships, no friendships, no big life experiences that normal people do in their 20s, no vacations, no living on my own, no career development, no goals in mind, absolutely nothing. It’s been nothing but misery and suicidal ideation since then
>Just because i can
If you can retire early and still maintain the lifestyle you want while paying all your bills and whatnot, of course you should fricking do it. I'm going to retire as early as I possibly can. I have so much more important and meaningful shit that I could do with my life if I didn't have to go to a stupid fricking job every day.