I will roid and have plastic surgery and take drugs for better cognitive function and have the life and all the things nature didn't intend me to.
I will roid and have plastic surgery and take drugs for better cognitive function and have the life and all the things nature didn't intend me to...
Everything comes at a cost anon, dont become a roidtroony
That's all plastic surgery.
You can't un-israelite your nose with steroids
I don’t understand why she did that
I bet that tiny gar wearing frick can still smell Pennies 5 blocks away
Honestly pretty smart. I finally got double jaw surgery earlier this year at nearly 40 years old, and it greatly improved my confidence. I wish I would have it done it 20 years ago. My life would have been a million times better. Thinking about a nose job now too, and maybe cheek implants. And I wish I would have taken steroids 20 years ago as well. Seeing how much more progress people are making while taking steroids is so demoralizing to morons like me that stubbornly stuck with being natural. I would have gotten so much more attention from women if my muscles were twice as big. As I've gotten older, I've realized that it's so much better to burn bright for a short period of time when you're young because that's when all of the best and important experiences of your life occur. Focusing on longevity is so fricked stupid since getting old absolutely sucks. That's why you should get a bunch of cosmetic surgeries, take steroids, and do other crazy shit when you're young since you'll literally attract 1,000x more women and have a much more fulfilling and cool life.
Fricking based!!
It’s not cheating; it’s leveling the playing field.
The only thing I’m worried about is jaw surgery (I’m a chinless virgin chud) they say you can’t exercise or chew food for months after surgery which worries me but I’m wondering if I can get my mandible forward with a distraction device rather than 1 full surgery.
Also
>”it is better to live a day as a Lion than 100 years as a sheep”
-Benito Mussolini
Jaw surgery is no joke. Hardest thing I've been through by far. And yes, you can't chew even soft food for at least 2 months - which my oral surgeon fricking lied to me about. He said I could go back to eating steaks again as soon as my plastic splint came out at 6 weeks. And so I reserved a table at my favorite restaurant so that I could go straight there after my splint was removed and celebrate by eating normal food again, only to find out that I couldn't even open my teeth beyond a couple millimeters because the tendons and muscles in my jaws were still super traumatized and stiff - which legit caused me to cry in the middle of the restaurant since it was all I could think about for 6 weeks straight while my jaws were wired shut. I'm several months post-op, and my jaws, teeth, and gums are still super sensitive. I can't eat nuts, unripened fruit, hard breads, beef jerky, etc. For about 10 weeks you have to blend and liquify all your food and squirt it into your mouth from a feeding syringe or giant condiment bottle. And you have to swallow it all without chewing like a human snake. And that's just part of the suffering. The swelling is absolutely insane - especially in the first week. My face is still swollen and probably won't look normal again for 18 to 24 months. Another danger is permanent numbness, tingling, and burning - which unfortunately happened to me and will probably be permanent, although I won't know for sure until 1 year post-op. Having said all of that, it's still worth it in my opinion. I'd do it all over again because my face looks so much better now. The only change I'd make if I could go back in time is that I'd go to a more Gucci clinic like LACOMS because they'll give you a nose job and bone grafts all in one surgery in order to approve the overall appearance of your face, while most oral surgeons like mine only care about the proper function of your jaws.
How the frick do you keep your gains after surgery?
I was shocked by how quickly my body went to shit after my surgery. Literally within a few days I could see my muscles start to atrophy and my torso starting to get bloated. Eating was also way, way harder than I thought it was going to be. Simply getting the thin rubber hose thingy from my feeding syringe into my mouth and slipped back into the inside of my cheeks where the only marble-sized opening to my throat behind my molars was was hard. My face was so swollen that my lips grew to a cartoonish size. They actually fused together from all of the blood, snot, and drool. And so I'd have to pry open one of the corners of my lips and shove the rubber hose in while also making extra sure not to scrape the stitches on my upper and lower gums. Then I had to pull back on the food syringe plunger to suck up my liquified food, which was surprisingly difficult because it had a rubber o ring that would get stuck + I was insanely weak from the surgery. Sometimes I'd pull too hard and the plunger would come flying out and get food everywhere. And sometimes I didn't line up the opening to the hose correctly, and so liquid food would build up in my cheeks, burst out of my lips, and drizzle down all of my lips, chin, neck, and torso. And I could never tell when this was going to happen because my face was so swollen and numb. Sometimes the rubber hose would come off and get liquid food everywhere too. I also had to take liquid pain meds every 3 hours - which was also way worse than I thought it would be. They taste like extremely sweet artificial fruit and burned the hell out of my mouth and throat every time. And I'd have to fill my entire feeding syringe with them and slowly squirt them into my mouth. I'd also inevitably choke and cough them up, and so my entire body and face was always sticky and reeked of artificial fruit.
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Another weird thing that happened is that my taste buds completely changed, and so the foods that I normally ate every day and loved now made me want to vomit - which was a huge problem because I was instructed to consume 200 grams of protein every single day because you need all of that protein for your jaws to heal. I didn't think that would be a big deal because I've been consuming 150 to 200 grams of protein every day for years. I thought I'd just make a bunch of protein shakes and chug them down. But the protein powder I'd been drinking every day for years now made me want to puke. I kept trying different liquified blender recipes of healthy whole foods, but nothing was working. I couldn't even get through 2 syringes of it, and I needed to consume like 30 syringes worth of liquid food every single day. And so I ended up losing 20 pounds in the first couple of weeks. I was wasting away and felt so nauseous and weak. And so I resorted to consuming pure goyslop. I'd pour half a box of children's sugary breakfast cereal into a blender, add 2 or 3 pre-made high protein meal replacement shakes, and some heaping tablespoons of peanut butter and a healthy pour of maple syrup. Sounds gross, but it was actually super delicious. And I had no choice because literally nothing else was staying down. I'd do that twice a day, and it worked great. That allowed me to put on 25 pounds of pure fat over the next 4 weeks. My oral surgeon said I couldn't exercise at all besides going for walks for 8 weeks. And when I did restart exercising, I needed to take it super easy and only do 50% of what I usually do. And so I loss like half of my gains which took me 25 years to build. Luckily, muscle memory is a thing, and so I regained 85% of that over the next few weeks in the gym - which was shocking to me. I couldn't believe how quickly I regained my strength. It probably had something to do with lifting since I was 13.
Again, I am prepared to see a oral facial surgeon and ask them about a distraction device as an alternative because apparently it can do the same thing as surgery but way less painful and you actually grow more bone in place.
Allegedly you can eat, talk and do everything normally, experience no swelling or severe pain and don’t need to have your mouth wired shut.
Be super careful with devices that claim to change the shape of your jaw bones. There's really bad horror stories involving those.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/agga-dental-device-lawsuits-teeth-damage/
And that's because your bones are really only malleable when you're a kid. Once you become an adult, your bones are set in place. And so the devices are shoving people's teeth out of their sockets and seriously fricking them up.
I want to have an attractive face but I don’t want to go through the pain of jaw surgery.
I feel stuck. Anyway, thanks for the insight and sharing your experience.
Couldn’t be me. I was born attractive
Sucks to be ugly
>Couldn’t be me.
Congrats on being b***hmade I guess lol
just wanted to remind you looklets that you’ll never be what I was born as. Keep coping pussies
IDGAF
homie, I don’t even know you so why would a be jealous of you?
LMAO if you think anyone ITT is seething over your existence. No one here gives a shit.
How is that a flex?
That’s like bragging about being born with a silver spoon in your mouth rather than being a self-made millionaire.
You should do it. It is horrific. 100% you're going to regret it as you're recovering and feel like you ruined your life and were a total moron to do something so extreme. And you can't really prepare for how horrible it is either. I thought I was prepared because I read tons of posts on /r/JawSurgery and watched tons of videos on YouTube about jaw surgery, including footage of the actual surgeries themselves, but no. Nothing can prepare you for the absolute hell that is jaw surgery. It's going to be 100x than you imagined. Nevertheless, you'll also see most people who got jaw surgery saying that they don't regret it. It makes your face look so much better and gives you way more confidence. Also, you could get lucky and have an easy recovery. I've seen people say that they had zero pain, and their swelling wasn't that bad either. They also managed to eat without much issue somehow. It depends on the individual, the surgery (there's different types of jaw surgeries), and the surgeon. For example, I saw a guy in Germany document his jaw surgery journey. They allowed him to stay in a hospital for 3 days - which I was super jealous of because they kick you out after 24 hours in America (and charge you a fortune too). I had to go to the emergency room the 3rd morning of my recovery because I almost died - which would have been avoided if I was allowed to stay in a hospital for the first 3 days of my recovery. They also cut holes into his cheeks with a scalpel and inserted tubes to drain the blood - which would have helped with my swelling. And they inserted a feeding tube into his nose - which would have made it much easier for me to eat and take my meds. And so while the recovery from jaw surgery is always hard, it can definitely be way less hard if you find a surgeon and hospital that really has the recovery process laid out well.
Shit man, sounds way easier to just accept the way your are. I'm a chinlet and jawlet as well but considering what you describe I don't know if doing surgery is worth it. Though the only bad characteristic I have is the small jaw, the rest of my face is pretty balanced, but it doesn't matter since the jaw fricks everything up.
I was the exact opposite of a chinlet. My lower jaw was huge, jutted out from my face, and was crooked. It was my upper jaw that was small. And so I kind of looked like a human-orc hybrid, or like the inbred European royal meme, or the trollface meme. If you looked like that, you'd definitely go through with the surgery.
Lol, do you think because the doctors had to remove some parts of your jaw and also work on both upper and lower jaw, that the recovery was so horrendous? I've read a lot about the type of surgery for my type and while the recovery was what you'd expect for a surgery, it was in no way as bad as yours. People most often complained about the implants moving as the worst aspect of it, but you can also get unnatural looking results if the doctor isn't good at selecting the right type of implant.
Yeah, my surgery was probably on the harder and more brutal side of the jaw surgery scale. But I've definitely seen worse. I "only" have 6 custom-made titanium plates in my face. I've seen people with even more.
I probably shouldn't share all of the gory details because it's so gross, but they used a small, rotating, dremel-like saw to completely remove my upper jaw from my skull. They then took my detached upper jaw, sawed it in half, placed it in a plastic splint in order to widen it, and then reattached all of that to my skull several millimeters forward using metal plates and screws. And for my lower jaw, they made 4 cuts with the same saw in order to break my jaw into 3 separate pieces and remove several millimeters of bone so that they could move my lower jaw backwards, which was kept in place with more metal plates and screws. They also rotated both of my jaws to the left a couple of millimeters to align them with the center of my face. My jaws were then kept wired shut with a combination of super strong and light rubber bands that were attached to hooks on my braces for the next 6 weeks.
Here's actual video footage of the surgeries I had done. Click on them at your own risk.
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The splint was actually the worst part - which I wasn't expecting at all. I thought I was just going to have this slightly annoying plastic device in the roof of my mouth that wouldn't really get in the way. Instead it was right in the middle of my mouth and blocked everything besides these small holes behind my molars - which is where all of my food, water, and meds had to pass through. It made the recovery a 100x worse. And so your recovery will be way easier if you don't need to wear a splint.
Imagine doing all this for women. Then even if you do get one to breed with you your kids will come out with your genetically cursed jaw line. What a travesty of a human.
Genetics are a meme most jawlets have parents with normal or even great jaws
Easy for you to say. You weren't born hideously ugly. You'd get a bunch of cosmetic surgeries too if you were in my shoes.
Being born hideous is natures way of preventing you from reproducing. Your surgery will only perpetuate your dysgenic blood line by deceiving potential mates into creating more wretched creatures with you.
You're not wrong. I guess my survival instincts are irrationally strong.
Watched both videos, no wonder the recovery was such a b***h, the stress put on the body by the procedures was imense.
>You'd get a bunch of cosmetic surgeries too if you were in my shoes.
I'm with you on this one anon, at least from what you describe it was definitely worth all the pain, as a jawlet you can still live with it, you had no other option.
i hate to say it, but i cant argue with your point, despite the fact im taking the longevity route, i often wonder for what purpose, you basically say no to everything fun
Surgery? For asthetics? As a male? What a bunch of gays.
I badly want to get a rhinoplasty for my crooked and curved nose, but every time I look into surgeons, even the best/most-renowned in my country, I see a not-insignificant subset of patient reviews claiming that their nose was made worse than before, or that their breathing was fricked up, or that they needed multiple revisions to fix shit it. It makes me anxious.
Unironically a crooked nose is often caused by a recessed jaw.
Eh, my jaw is reasonable, although I do need to lose some bf% to make it better defined. Honestly no idea how my nose ended up the way it did.
Kind of true. I've seen lots of people saying that their jaw surgery actually improved the look of their nose as well - which they were surprised and thrilled by because they basically got a nose job for free. The same thing happened to me. I had a pretty severe underbite. My upper jaw was super underdeveloped. It was way too narrow and recessed deeply into my face. And so when my upper jaw was widened and moved several millimeters forward, it actually straightened out my nose a bit - which blew my mind. I also basically got cheek implants for free because my upper jaw got moved forward and widened so much that it actually gave me slightly more pronounced cheekbones. And so jaw surgery is probably the single biggest improvement you can make to your face since it fixes so many different things.
I read an article from a plastic surgeon about which cosmetic procedures she'd never get. And a nose job was her #1 because you can never predict how it will heal. But man, some people's nose jobs look absolutely amazing, and so I might be willing to take that risk.
You gon need more than plastic surgery
I will be getting teeth whitening, braces/invisalign, deviated septum fix. Idk what else I can do to get better? I have negative canthal tilt but I don't think it's worth the risk to sort. And my jaw and everything is fine though my lips are weird
You aren't getting "better" you are getting worse and putting yourself at risk. Try embracing how you actually look.
No, I'm literally an incel
Also I've been developing a fold to the right side of my face from my nose to mouth I forgot the term for it. I even wash my face and moisturise daily using retinol as well. Wtf do I do?
Literally what I did.
Good luck, hope you find what you're looking for
Dirty israelite hiding in plain sight
Go ahead, but I will also root against you.
In the eternal battle between nature and homosexual lookism incel, I will root for nature every time.