Zoomers, specially young ones have it so much easier than us
Back then you had to figure out most things on your own, nowadays they have overabundance of information in literal YouTube regarding lifting routines, diet, fashion, mental health, etc.
This is the easiest time in history to make it
Alpha m , brett maverick wetre around back then
>Alpha m
That short boomer gives absolutely TERRIBLE advices though
His advice was better for millennials in those times. Now its shit nowadays
What about Alpha M is outdated?
Everything
He's also been israelited by the sponsors.
I'm not an Alhpa M fan, I've hardly watched any of his videos. I'm just struggling to understand what about his content could be outdated, I thought it was the typical "project confidence" shtick, that stuff is pretty timeless.
Most of these idiot fricking people do, the only advice the vast majority of people need is to let loose and go socialize more.
It's not bad, it's just outdated
They have all the guides and prescriptions but inheriting the worst economy, vapid prostitutes, and just all around a dystopian time. Trade offs.
/This
>end this
THAT?
Don't have to be tied to any one area for a job though. I work remote so it's a great time to be alive.
Yes and no. I think it's a double edged sword. I know for a fact if the lookism/blackpill stuff existed when I was 12 years old I would have went insane.
Used to spend a lot of time on looksmax when I was 18, made me schizo where I compared whether any guy I encountered Mogged me.
Went back on looksmax.me recently and saw literal 13 year olds talking about how they want to kill themselves because their clavicles are too narrow and needing to get a Lefort III
I got a lot of good advice from looksmax lol like prettyboymaxxing
Yep. Our parents and grandparents didn’t give a frick about negative canthal tilt or mewing.
They had healthier communities where people could meet and begin relationships. They didn’t have much to compare with either as they couldn’t see these insane lifestyles other had. Our culture is so narcissistic now.
Nothing wrong with self grooming and fitness but jesus we’ve dug our own graves by building these moronic standards
maybe blame female hypergamy reaching insane levels
And mortifying yourself with blackpill bullshit makes you feel any better about yourself?
im not incel but discovering the blackpill helped me a lot instead of the constant bluepill gaslighting i was receiving. i would probably still be incel if i didn't find the blackpill as early as i did. it really helps knowing that most things weren't my fault.
does thing ,,not being your fault'' make your balls less blue tho. like realistically. i dont understand this whole mental shit
internet manlet=/=irl manlet. guy handsome af tho looks like that meeks guy
i mean its just as blue as it would have been if you were deluded. maybe you will be more static in way of misery than in mental gymnastics ,,bluepill'' state? thats all
>I know for a fact if the lookism/blackpill stuff existed when I was 12 years old I would have went insane.
The demotivation bullshit is crazy
I fear for the future of humanity. The world/society is in a lot of trouble with the way things are going.
No it's not, since everyone else has access to the same information, it only raises the baseline of competition from previous floors. It's all relative.
I disagree homie, kids these days are so overwhelmed with information they don't know what to do with themselves. It's so easy to be brainwashed by stupid shit you see online even as an adult, nevermind being a literal child whose brain is still developing
>he watches "looksmaxing" guides on youtube
>has the red progress bar 50% of the way through
you are hopeless op. so you're older than a zoomer, still post on IST, lament about looksmaxing guides on youtube desperate to try to be normal, holy shit completely irredeemable and pathetic, you never would have made it lol
So only zoomers can post here?
I’m 32. You never truly leave
Frick off zoomzoom
This guy is right. The arrogance of youth will give way to realizations of how delusional you were soon enough zoomer anons. Even when you ‘make it’ you can never leave
H-hey that’s mean
I can look like a greek statue and my autism force field will repel all
You're not autistic, you're schizoid.
In b4 confusing schizoid and schizophrenic because you are also a low IQ shitskin.
Do you hate brown people? Why? I've never done anything egregious to anyone 🙁
What are you basing your diagnosis on.
99% of which is not worth listening to.
>99% of which is not worth listening to.
Just like college
CS, EE, Math, & Physics are pretty cool fields of study.
And what percentage of people go study those things? 99% is obviously hyperbole, but the vast majority of people are wasting time and money.
The vast majority of people are slow-witted and overweight. Why? Who'll save them?
Don't study physics.
>t. unemployed physics grad failed to get into grad school
You're not a good example
i was on my mom's computer and she has yahoo as her homepage
I opened a browser and saw a looksmaxing article on the front page. Frickin blew my mind, bizarro world.
All of this existed two decades ago already. You just didn't care and chose to level up your homosexual rouge in WoW instead
Would looksmaxing work for me
Jesus
The only self improvement you can do is surgery and gymcel. Changing your hair or fashion or whatever wont help if youre a manlet or if youre hideous.
Yes it will
雰囲気イケメン
nope, I took the blackpill earlier this year but I'm also ethnic so I'm inheritantly born knowing what the black pill is. Anyways, ended up having implants / djs and now a HTs. I look way better + gymcelled.
>but I'm also ethnic
Stopped reading there
I have no interest in discussing anything with s self hating brownoid
Yes it will. I fringemaxxed and start moggin
they all look weak and gay
It’s all bullshit. You cant change the shape of your bones. Even if you are breathing correctly. Nothing will make you change your eye shape
Guys like these slide into 4s and 5s DMs with that rizz and cause Hoeflation fr
This
Most of attractiveness comes from your eyes
If you have uneven eyes then that's already set a maximum level of attractiveness you can achieve.
HOWEVER
you can improve work toward reaching out max for your age by sleeping more, not drinking as much and being lean.
If you want better eyes 9 hours per night.
Drinking and drugs fricks up your eyes.
As you age your eyes also get worse.
But yes, being 9 is physically impossible for most people.
Most Average looking people without trying can bump themselves up to a 6 or 7.
There's a few average looking people that remain average looking no matter what they do. However, I'd still encourage them to forget about lookism and lift for fun.
This but also how you carry your gaze. Once I learned to relax my face, women found me more attractive. Having probing eyes is off-putting and could be something that is detracting from your overall looks.
Being a 9 comes with it's own set of problems anyway
Imagine being in the top 1% of males and having to try to find a partner in the top 1% of females.
Sure they can bang whenever they want, but if you could do that you would be bored of fricking subpar women. Imagine something fun but you can do whatever you want, you enjoy it less and less the more you do it and as time passes.
That being said, I think someone that attractive overall has a better life than a 3/10 at the other end of the scale.
I think 7/10 is the sweet spot.
The strategy for an average looking male is to make sure you're going for less attractive women that aren't batshit insane for a partner and hookup with everything else.
You'll have a harder time than your more attractive peers, but that's life I'm afraid. They just won the genetic lottery.
You need to come to terms with this to stop being a pathetic incel.
10 years ago looksmaxxing wasn’t necessary because a 4/10 guy could easily get a 8/10 woman now, however, a 3/10 woman doesn’t even consider any guy less than an 8/10 human.
I feel ya OP, sometimes I wish there was a social structure in which an older man with a vested interest in your upbringing and success lived with and supported you as a child to teach you all the things that could only be realized with his experience in life. That sounds kind of gay though now that I think about it.
All the successful homies had mentors
He's talking about fathers
2006 newbie here. zoombros don't know how easy they have it.
>SS+GOMAD, squats & oats and general obsession with getting fat as frick as sine qua non for putting on muscle.
>terrible cutting advice (only way to get lean is chickenbroccorice and if you're not running ECA you might as well not bother. fatties should run a pitiful 200-cal deficit)
>COMPLETELY oblivious to widespread roid abuse. anything short of a mass monster fizeek was achievable natty.
>you don't need isolations and machines are for gays
>unironic DNP use
>404 skincare and hair advice. that was IST territory exclusively (despite how we were all engaging in the adult version of PT with the sole purpose of becoming more frickable).
on the other hand we had negative hoeflation and looksmaxxing is fricking with kids' heads big time.
come to think about it I wouldn't trade it for anything. I pity you zooms.
Lmao /this
It's like everyone had mental moronation back then.
That was the magic of the 90s - early 2010
Everything was somewhat mythical if you didn't know where to start and everything was jungle of misinformation, momscience and trolling.
When I grew up if you did anything for looks you were either a homosexual or metrosexual which was pretty much the same thing.
I remember even girls thought david beckham was a gay
Sorry but zoomers seem to be more miserable and perpetually online than any generation. Zoomers are constantly online crying about AHH I CAN'T GET A DATE AHH I'M SUB 6 FOOT I WANNA KILL MYSELF and actual MALES posting in fricking looksmaxing forums, wearing makeup and shit
I literally look like Gimli and just lift heavy shit aimlessly and farm/fish/hunt for exercise, went on Tinder and landed a dedicated wife no problem after plowing like 30 women in a college town.
Zoomer existence sounds like literal hell and the only thing I can equate to the "influencers" these kids listen to for "advice" is the fricking PUAs of my generation, which were just as cringe and moronic
Stop the cap
that's no cap
Normies ruin everything they touch, the manosphere forum all are unusable today when the normies arrived
They have a bunch of grifters. I found all the info I needed in like 2008.
Falling into the looksmaxxing rabbithole will ALWAYS result in extreme body dysmorphia, always without exception.
Even if you're a literal Chad you will find things about yourself to become insecure about if you get into the inhuman looksmaxxing rabbithole. Why do you think you see so many legitimately beautiful people getting bogged these days despite them already being beautiful? They learn their canthal til is not optimal and their maxilla is slightly receded and boom they don't see anything else but that from that point on.
Even prime Alain Delon would find 12 different things to be insecure about himself if he was regularly posting on lookmaxxer forums and would probably undergo dozens of different procedures and get bogged so much until his entire face looks like it's melting.
These self improvment youtubers make things worse in many ways. People spend hour upon hours consuming the content instead of leaving their basement and applying their lessons and actually doing shit.
The guys who go outside and actually do shit, learning through trial and error, never once consuming any self improvement content tend to do better.
Yeah this
Plus all these gay twinktok fitness accounts might offer advice (lots of it terrible, some hidden gems) but zoomers don't remember any of it.
I think it was a lot more educational to be READING shit on forums back in the day instead of just mindlessly scrolling through some 60 second video or watching some gay pakistani like hamza and not remembering a thing that was said
You need a youtuber to inform you that you need to be good looking, son?
if i knew lookism earlier i wouldnt be downward grown w a shit gonial. i found /b/ early at 12-13. later went to fit years later but I wish I had heightmaxxing and preventative measures for facial gains then. most crucial time.
>nowadays they have overabundance of information in literal YouTube regarding lifting routines, diet, fashion, mental health, etc.
And 100% of it is total bullshit.
you didnt need it back then, if you failed in the past, you would have had NO CHANCE today
I wish I could get a do over with all my current knowledge and wisdom. Or even wake up from a coma and find out I’ve been in it for less than a year at the age of 12-14 again, retain most of my memories. Either way I would
>mew, not mouth breath
>join wrestling team, take nutrition more seriously sooner, probably would be 6’8” considering my families genes and not just 6’2”
>nofap, never develop a porn addiction to stop getting random boners all day in class and embrace it
>start working at 14 instead of at 17, save it all, into bitcoin (obviously)
>still go to college knowing I won’t use the degree just for pussy and experiences
>start several YouTube channels to build up just to always have some income
>after degree straight into trades to keep as backup plan
>build a home before 30 in another state on a 50acre plot
And figure out what to do from there
>probably would be 6’8” considering my families genes and not just 6’2”
You are delusional and severely moronic if you think you'd have a chance to grow 6 extra inches with diet and exercise alone
>>join wrestling team, take nutrition more seriously sooner, probably would be 6’8” considering my families genes and not just 6’2”
holy body dysmorphia. always boggles me there are guys out there who are average or taller than average and still insecure about their height
in sweden it's unironically over if you're under 6 feet
Fredrik Ljungberg is the biggest Chad to ever came out of Sweden and that homie is 5'9
>short
>bald
>still chad
Is it possible to learn this power
>great bonestructure
>great head shape
Not from a non Aryan
If you are bald you can never have a body fat percentage bigger than 10%
Exactly this. If you're bald, you NEED to be lean as frick if you want to look decently attractive.
>rich
>famous athlete
>good face
It's probably not possible
Fricking lil' Chad
The only person stopping you from achieving this today is yourself.
Nah OP is right, I was such a doofy ugly kid and plenty of other teens at the gym with me were pretty ugly looking too, it was maybe less than a dozen guys in my whole graduating class that figured out the keys to being attractive. nowadays every other zoomer in the gym looks like a pretty boy
You can get most of.that device from women.
>learn 2 fret about your looks like an insecure girl from an early age
Yeah, sounds magnificent.
I see no point in looksmaxxing since I am a neet. I'll start once I go eventually move out though, right now I just lift but ive started caring a bit more about hair/skin
I'm a zoomer and I just don't have the energy to work, study, lift, cook, clean, looksmax AND generate romance with a woman. 90% of my time is spent doing the first 5 things, and even then I slip up on trying to study. I this point I'm just going to carry on with what I'm doing. Then maybe in my late 20s, once I have put a down payment and good passive income, I'll try to looksmax and try my hand at romance. I have untreated borderline adhd and am just barely making things work. I cannot IMAGINE trying to manage the needs of a woman let alone kids right now.
I don't say this to be rude but you're fricking moronic
>I'll save sex for when my dick is softer and I have to frick 30 year old women
Honestly bro you can do better than this
I've had sex 3 times and never been in a serious relationship that's lasted over 3 months. Can I do better? Sure. But the marginal utility of making more money outweighs the time spend splurging on women.
>Marginal utility
Your sex drive is a depreciating asset, dumbass.
>The marginal utility of my frozen food is higher than that of the banana on my counter
After age 30, your orgasms feel half as intense as they did in your early 20's. The women you're dating, say late 20's early 30's, are laser focused on settling down. They're genuinely not fun anymore because they spend the entire time weighing you and measuring you to see whether you can provide for their children. You should listen to my warning dude, I'm older than you and have seen what's waiting for you. You have 1 chance to have a healthy sex life and 500 chances to make money.
NTA but
>yea bro your dick just fricking dies, orgasms turn to shit, everything sucks after 30
Bullshit.
Also, plenty of dudes wasted their youth and their money trying to hook up in bars and at parties, and all they ended up with in their late 30's was tinnitus, an alcohol problem, a shit job and maybe a few flings.
Wasting prime time now cause "ohmahgawd future is gonna suck so much ass" is not only a very bad strategy but also a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>The women you're dating, say late 20's early 30's, are laser focused on settling down
Who says you have to be dating that? Get ripped, make money, make sure your life is stable, then be the early 30's guy that picks up early 20's chicks. Hell, if you have enough extra cash you can even go to a different country to frick.
>Heh, I'll be plowing 18 year olds into my 40's
Say what you want about /fit but at least it's predictable
That anon. Look I'm 23, if I really put my pedal to the metal fir the nest 3-4 years, thar gives me plenty of time to enjoy the rest of my 20s, settle down and have kids without having to worry about finances.
Everything you wrote is wrong
You're 100x better off learning how to talk to girls and having a personality than "looksmaxxing"
There's going to be a lot of lonely people in 20 years when zoomie males reach 40 and lose their hair and dicks and stave off suicide with vtubers, and zoomie women end up alone and coping with otome games and cats
Not really fit related, but I wish YouTube existed at all when I was younger. I was reading books about basketball drills and other stuff. I remember having to google articles on how to throw discus. And I was fricking good at both of them. (Relatively speaking)
If you're a white man born in the west you are already living on ultra easy mode. All of these vanity subjects go by the 80/20 rule and you will realize what a massive mistake it was to invest this much in them once you hit your thirties
didnt read the thread
if you are above 177, all you gotta do is
>stand firm
>not be fat
>have decent hair
thats it
Wrong
What you need is a social life
t. 6'2 handsome and zero pussy for years because I was a massive shut in
that is true, yes
but circling back to physical attributes, not being fat and not being short is extremely important too
I genuinely dont give advice to men shorter than 173 or so if I'm asked to, and I get asked once every while due to circumstances, as I dont know what to say
>I genuinely dont give advice to men shorter than 173 or so
It's a balance between charisma and looks
You can be unadultered handsome and pull while being an autist
You can be an ugly fat frick and pull while being a charismatic genius
Everyone needs to find their balance between looks and talk
Just get a nice haircut, dress decent and then work on your talk until you find your spot
>I genuinely dont give advice to men shorter than 173 or so if I'm asked to
This is just moronic. I'm unironically 163 cm and started fricking b***hes when I got muscular and lean, started to wear fitting clothes, etcetera. The same advices that would apply to anyone else.
all the power to you but I just dont know what to say man, its like consulting an orphan, it feels like being sub 170 is an experience that shapes how you view life
and I tend to stay clear of talking about emotions and circumstances I cant relate to
all good tips, not a word wasted, cheers
I knew a 160 manlet who could easily pull women through charisma. He wasn't even Chad looking, just a solid 6. That guy indirectly helped me pull a blonde model that was 10 cm taller than me. I felt nervous right after meeting her and then thought:
>if that manlet never felt insecure about his height I have no right to feel like that about my own
And proceeded to have a blast with her (and blast coom inside her).
you cant change your genes
If you do this stuff you’re the biggest gay ever
well, you don't have to mope about it now, even if you are starting from today.
>incelmaxxing
Do zoomers really?